Would You Rather…LIBERAL MEN VS CONSERVATIVE MEN 🙊// DOMINANCE, PROVISION, LEADERSHIP & TOXICITY

[@bumploveug]

Which man would you rather have? Join the conversation today with Godfrey Kuteesa and Andrew Kyamagero as we discuss traditional male roles from the men's point of view. Thank you gentlemen for gracing our show today! We'd like to hear your thoughts on how toxic masculinity has affected you in the comments below. SHOUT OUT TO OUR GLAM SQUADS: MANUELA'S GLAM; Wardrobe: Cadia Fashion House Make up: Tina Brows Hair: Zuri Uganda BARBARA'S GLAM; Wardrobe: David Kabenge Jewellery: The SN Store Hair: Zuri Uganda Make up: The Sununu Effect BEVERLEY'S GLAM; Wardrobe Arija Fashions Videography and Editing: Garage Group

[@ugandankitchen.]

I wish you could bring us Mariam Nagujja to educate us as well about men cause I find her knowledgeable. Thanks for the show

[@paulinemutumba9157]

Men detach

[@judithsky2916]

Even on worst day Godfrey noo he is too much

[@Beextina]

I am 100% A. Kyamagero’s TYPE.❤😂

[@basketballdiaries2846]

Kyamagero comes out as abusive, a man who abandons his home is because hey cannot handle the strength of the woman they have. The man that stays simply makes a choice to.love that one man no matter the circumstances

[@phatiezcooks]

First pause and we applaud Beverly for standing up for women's rights 👍👍😊

[@MistyEE21]

I don't expect any less from her knowing her since University days. She's brilliant and reasonable.

[@phatiezcooks]

@@MistyEE21 I can agree according to her words 💪💪💪

[@Nambozobev]

Thank you so much.

[@daisynabulondela5760]

Weldone Beverly ❤

[@solomontumu726]

We had a training in Watoto church under a men’s group called men of valor and one thing we learned was the root cause is when men don’t take responsibility. Just like Adam didn’t lookout for Eve when she ate the fruit or when he failed to acknowledge his role when God asked him what happened and he was quick to point fingers at Eve. My submission is that as men we ought to take responsibility for what is happening, then can we have a sustainable wholistic approach that will bring healing in our community. Finally as we walk in Jesus’ footsteps, we ought to lead by loving and serving one another, unlike the world system where everyone wants to be on top.

[@rachaelkirungi6844]

Well done

[@cintermuchai9399]

Wanted to watch this to the end but i am from Kenya and we are going through enough emotions distress with our president. 😂😂😂 so am gonna leave it at min 21:00. Something is missing from this conversation. And i do think Men and women are equal, roles may be different but no one is lesser than than the other.

[@fauzanamakula5018]

“It takes a lot of guts for a man to come back home.” But my why come home when you’re not happy. And that’s not me saying this lightly. I grew up with two parent and my dad loved coming home. Kyamagelo this self importance is appalling. Funny how you side stepped the fact that the partner in question works. If you’re the alpha and she has to do her deligence does it mean she doesn’t have to contribute towards the bills? Contrary to you thought Kyamagelo, I want to take this opportunity to send shouts out to my dad, He always came home early to play with us his kids. He LOVED cooking and feeding people. My Mom did too. He would contributed towards house chores all the while taking his place as the unmistaken ALPHA in his home. My Dad loved the ground his wife walked on and thus showed all my brothers that you did have to be misogynistic to be an Alpha.

[@marionk7915]

That part didn't sit well with me either. I am all for men being the heads in their homes but he makes it sound like he is doing her a favour by returning home. Which leaves the question, where would he rather be?

[@Beextina]

My dad too ❤

[@fk5371]

I think you misunderstood him😅 the message was for the other gender not to take the other for granted😅 as long as you continue to judge your African men according to eurocentric standards you will continue to struggle my sister

[@travonnelynda]

I just paused to first comment, You can't talk masculinity in Uganda without Mr. Godfrey Kutesa. Thank you BumpLove for hosting this great man🎉

[@JoviaKusiima]

Well stated 🎉🎉

[@kariisaalanamara7311]

I see ya.....

[@maurynkugonza2105]

🎉

[@kaliisakaita5831]

He's great​@@kariisaalanamara7311

[@babiryeaidahcharlene3906]

The scenario Kyamagero shared, where a woman asks her husband for permission on Wednesday to attend a wedding on Saturday, and he agrees but then drives her in a completely different direction on the day because she asked 'late'-three days in advance-constitutes emotional abuse.

[@lifeofachom]

I also watched it and I felt bad for the wife

[@hildamuwando6516]

True. If attending the wedding means a lot to the wife, why not let her be? Going to the farm can be postponed or he can go alone. The farm visit didn't sound like an emergency.

[@pamelaatukunda2122]

But some people won't see this and they will support him.

[@MistyEE21]

@Babirye, this is how we like to complicate each other's life with abuses etc then the marriage ends. I am already exhausted 😢😢

[@marianabanks8886]

Hehehe men move around in Kampala with small egos 😅😅

[@olivia-kim-abba]

Clip 30:48- Andrew said “It takes a lot of guts for a man to decide everyday to come back to you” …. This statement is loaded. I can not even imagine why men like Andrew think this kind of perception and mindset is ok. Does this man have a daughter??? SMH. I have a lot to say but let me restrain myself on this issue. Andrew stooooooooop stooooooop bashing single moms. I was raised well by a single mom- (orphaned). I am a sole parent raising a daughter (she is an orphan). She is going to be a great human being. Toxic parenting that causes childhood traumas is not synonymous with single parenting. Emotional and all sorts of Abuse especially those perpetrated by “cultures” continues to have a influence on why the society is raising humans that have little or no emotional intelligence to be able to manage and foster healthy relationships and marriages❗️

[@puritykemunto5752]

I caught that statement too and was disheartened. All they did was give excuses to justify their terrible actions. I miss pumla ❤

[@akamukundajulian8847]

You girl me am raging why does that particular tribe continue to disrespect women and there women are so dump they keep settling for trashy men with rubbish mindsets.

[@namubirujoan2015]

@@olivia-kim-abba thank you. People have been raised by single parents and they’ve come out as responsible adults, we’ve seen people who were raised by both parents and giving the Society headache

[@namubirujoan2015]

@@puritykemunto5752 🤝🤝🤝🤝I don’t think I can handle any of those two!! Ehh

[@KarungiPeluce]

On the issue of parenting has no manual I was raised by a single mum but the truth is segayirira musajja I have seen my mum provide and I have a mentality if she I can also do in that I can never settle where I don't feel well just because they can provide

[@thechristianperspective]

I want to hug Beverly these guys want to say that its okay for a woman to suffer and she has to endure but for men its supposed to be smooth all through.

[@Nambozobev]

Time for us to speak up. Thank you

[@ConquererAnita-ns7qu]

Nambooze u r something else. U know how to use space ,baby gal!

[@SA-vw4ny]

​@@Nambozobev how can one reach you regarding public speaking please? Thank you ❤

[@namiirojose6824]

Yes Bev has represented us so well

[@namubirujoan2015]

@@thechristianperspective me too, she really outspoke the men and all her reasoning was valid. She respresented us very well🤝🤝 thank you madam Beverly

[@lateefahniwagaba6026]

Because I got used to a bigger group, i feel like this episode is so lively, it brings the previous season's vibes.

[@nababiaminah318]

Same here

[@jamiekhlo1302]

I thought it was only mi

[@gift2362]

Mwana

[@lateefahniwagaba6026]

@@jamiekhlo1302 you are not alone 😢

[@kahindodoreen4228]

Definitely

[@rhodagati9883]

The entitlement of Kuteesa and Kyamagero on this episode. Eh, are they just ignorant or blatantly misogynistic? I am so baffled and confused. Also, Manuela, i must applaud you for your choice of guests. You have not just debated toxic masculinity. You have shown it to us, in all its glory. These two men are the embodiment of toxic masculinity 😢

[@life_with_drnalongo]

You know this episode was actually a display of toxicity itself.

[@mariont2961]

I agree! So toxic!

[@EleneLC]

You couldn’t have said it any better !! These men are the true definition of toxic masculinity!!!!

[@catherinen9849]

You spoke my mind

[@nuwagabawinfredkiyemba]

Plainly displayed.

[@samalietendo7865]

I was raised in a home where my mother was wrongly empowered and that led to our family breakage. That doesn't mean i will do the same, I am getting biased on feminism and it's outcomes be cause women ain't given a degree of limit in this culture. However educated, empowered, emancipated or financially stable you are, YOU ARE A WOMAN. Submission is key. However, men should respect, honor and love their women. Thank you.

[@harmonyalicia]

The truth is women should let men be men and accept leadership...whereas men should be respectful, responsible and accountable

[@patriciaamongin6662]

True

[@i.am.michellekirabo]

Exactly! Just accept leadership, for Christ's sake. The man needs his feet rubbed, RUUUUUUUUUUUB! Stop listening to the Kardashians and the devil. When you do, and divorced, shut your big empowered mouth.

[@asiolydiaomiat7518]

Surely

[@ayebarephillip]

A u married yet , you sound from my testament

[@namutebimukasanissen9916]

Question is what is leadership? Lording it over others? No!

[@LisaKusiima]

I knew I’d get angry I don’t know why I played 😂. So much half truth from the men. We need Jesus 🙏🏽. He is the true definition of true masculinity! Men leave for a lack of commitment, self control, and selfishness!!! Is Godfrey married?

[@natashakimberly2131]

Ate...divorced..the last I heard

[@DignaK]

Thank you Lisa. These men live in bubbles. I hear “We are African. We are not in Europe.” Anything to justify their behavior.

[@DignaK]

Andrew, not having a microwave in your home doesn’t make you a strong African man. It makes you a man that loves to see his wife suffer because apparently he went out to look for money. Lol. That’s laughable.

[@DignaK]

This episode should be deleted from youtube and everywhere. All these men are saying is “I can do whatever I want and a woman should take it. However, I can leave at the slightest inconvenience from the same woman.” Very toxic and selfish if you ask me.

[@iraenhe286]

​Worst episode so far. Only Bev tried to stand up. Yes we're not equal but we're also human

[@mashex9186]

Hands up for all those coming straight from Facebook after watching Kyamagero's clip.

[@kenyanaracheal6900]

Not me I'm a bump lover Always here for every episode every Friday

[@mashex9186]

@@kenyanaracheal6900 am a new subscriber

[@ErnestKutesa]

i came after eeing Kutesa on tiktok

[@mkf9207]

'could you please rub my feet' is being humane. Being polite to our loved ones has nothing to do with gender equality. Asking Vs Demanding

[@MistyEE21]

"A man's love towards their son is to detouch".... Lord take the wheel. I just can't!!!

[@enocksematimba9794]

It works actually. It's the only way to get your sons to grow independently

[@kazibaeva8635]

It's called tough love, and it works

[@Njoki-bw3vp]

Then they say men raised by absentee dads are weak. These men in the panel need to seek psychiatric help. Something is doing them deep down.

[@zettepretty3213]

Same as the mother's live towards her daughter....it just works that way, a woman will be tough on a girl to teach them.ol there is to learn and be ready for the world and the man will do the same to the boy.... don't wonder why the girl clings more to a father and the boy to their mother??? Simply because of that...when a mother gets tough on the girl, her father will be her get to parent for ol the comfort and the boy will run to the mother for the comfort when father gets hard on him.....just natural.

[@mukyalanekolera8052]

“It takes a lot of guts for a man to decide everyday to come back to you” I am shaking my head! Why does he think that a man's coming back to his home is a big deal/favor to his wife?

[@evekisuva3973]

I wonder🤔no favor at all,they come back because they want to!I love bump love but this episode was👎 couldn't stand the misogyny.Bev tried to stand up for the women though.

[@patriciananteza2949]

This talk is both enlightening and disheartening. Bev, thanks for holding the 'no disrespect/abuse' forte for women. Kuteesa, makes sense. Men should listen to him more. I worry that for as long as men do not own up to their contribution to broken homes, it will continue. Women CANNOT be better alone. Also, we need to stay away from examples and miss the principle. Simple minds hold onto examples and miss the principle. Massaging feet is simply an example of care-giving. Women can show care in innumerable ways. Men, provide.

[@julie.e.namyalo9278]

Well stated, Thank you

[@jackynambatya]

The moment you stop seeing this as an argument btn men and women...that's where you start enjoying this conversation 😂😂😂😂

[@maurynkugonza2105]

I agree with you😊and i have really enjoyed it and learnt to

[@anitakomukama]

Bingo Jacky! Bingooooo😂🎉

[@jackynambatya]

@@anitakomukama 🤣😂hi hi

[@Beextina]

You’re very smart Nambatya. 🔝

[@jackynambatya]

@@Beextina ohh🤗🤗🤭🤭what a comment,thank you for your kind compliment Beextina.

[@SandraTusingwire]

Thanks Ladies for this table shaking Conversation, its been bitter-sweet listening to the submissions of y'all!

[@namubirujoan2015]

Manuela is right too about generalizing things. Very many people have grown up in single parenthood homes, where fathers and mothers are abusive but after seeing all those things they make a decision to change the dynamic they grew up seeing

[@paulinemutumba9157]

Very interesting conversation. Kyamagero spoke like an Alpha male (crass, egotistic) and the truth is as much as the modern woman wants a strong man, when it is served to us in full it gets very uncomfortable. Mr. Kutesa actually made his case less brutally but still the same case. Its serious food for thought for us. We must get used to these uncomfortable conversations to get to a good place for our generation. The conversation needs to continue. Thanks bump love

[@gladys.k.1050]

The modern woman wants a Sigma male …Not an insecure block of Alpha muscle. Nothing in full /excess is ever good.Men should regulate their strength as we so the same to regulate our emotions.

[@runnert6012]

Bev was the only one who held these two men accountable & tried to call them out when they used excuses to blame women for poor behaviors displayed by certain men. Their way of thinking was super archaic & they still believe that the woman place is still in the kitchen in 21st century. Bev held fire under their feet sometimes. Barbara pretty much checked out & didn't challenge them. Manuella didn't show up today & played a passive role. I understand that they're guests on the show but the 3 hostesses should always try to have control of the discussion. Bev definitely did her part & tried more than enough to be respectful while defending her viewpoints.

[@Nambozobev]

Thanks for your comment. We certainly need follow up discussions in other spaces as well, so that there is time for more views to be aired articulately.

[@consolateayoo1734]

Surely these men are very chauvinistic 😢😢

[@katek4724]

Beverley thanks for standing up for women today. I think men are lost today and the guests were proof of this. Men are not ready to acknowledge that tables have turned and they have to adapt to the reality of the day. Women have adapted, they are providing in homes while still doing wifely duties while men are also providing but not realising they have to meet the women halfway. I say men are going to continue being disillusioned until they wake up to the facts of the day. I also agree with Mr. Kuteesa that we need to stop coddling men...it's why we have so many losers and drunks in our society.

[@Nambozobev]

thanks for watching. so much to learn

[@bernadettemutuzo729]

Politeness has nothing to do with equality! It’s just good manners, speaks respect and love plus intimacy👌🏽. Thank you Manuela

[@glorialak]

I dont know how to shout "thank you" louder...I wish we had sounding emojiz, wd give you the loudest traditional ululation. 🤝

[@asiolydiaomiat7518]

For me I have vowed to give my husband peace as much as I humanly can. I know that the world out there is tough on men, and unfortunately, men don't have avenues like women do to share emotions. I want to be the avenue for my man to share and face the World boldly knowing the one woman in his life respects, hears, and hopes in him.

[@ayebarephillip]

Thanks for standing ur ground

[@iraenhe286]

This is sweet ☺️

[@tkzeewendy]

That’s all nice and well but truthfully the world is hard on women ie; professions, religions, society, family and this is exactly the topic of discussion bse men are not held accountable for the things they do while women are held on high standards even lack of children now if my husband is this shallow not to understand that it’s hard for women than men, then I don’t want him. Have you heard of a saying that men love bitches? Men actually love women who love themselves more bse they challenge them to a higher standard same as gold diggers. Men are just trained not to talk abt their emotions bse they don’t want to show weakness but there are so many avenues for them to address their issues/emotions just like it was years ago. Some men today as you claim have no venues to address their emotions is bse they were abandoned from childhood they broken homes and the genesis of the probably started way back from his great grand father and no matter what you the wife today can do 4 this man, it will never be enough until his address the original sin.

[@LindaAber]

And women ain't getting it😢

[@kmymarie7265]

Bravo

[@tumuhamekihembo]

Personally I feel that for the bigger part of this conversation the men were making excuses and giving justifications for their behavior blaming everything on the women.. They blamed women for being the cause of men leaving their homes.. which is not entirely true, because some women do all that is required and the men still leave Then they spoke about the women not bringing father figures after the men have left the marriages.. and there I still see an element of lack of responsibility.. because yes the marriage has ended, but what happened to co- parenting.. the father can still be present in the children's lives and the woman doesn't have to get blamed for not bringing a father figure.

[@lyshamay5951]

Of all men, they had to pick those two,like WTF

[@Zladok]

Which 1 of them is supposed to represent the modern man,they both sound toxic 😅

[@lyshamay5951]

@@Zladok not even morden men, real men

[@Nene..93]

​@@lyshamay5951how are they fake?

[@lyshamay5951]

@@Nene..93 dint say they are fake,i said it would have been great seeing some real men on the show , my real came out in a context of sage and gentlemen,

[@atuhairejackline5623]

Women submits to love, when u love your woman you can't fail to treat her right and once you treat her right she can never fail to respect you. You just don't expect kingship treatment yet to serve a commoners behavior. Just because you were taught to be a man doesn't mean you should be mannerless. And before you blame those single mothers for not being able to give their children there father figure upbringing,I think you should blame those men that left and never thought of their children's no matter the circumstances. Otherwise let's all opt to be better parents,if we fail as lovers or partners at least let's not fail as parents coz at the end of the day it's us that brought these children to this world and whatever happens between us shouldn't be their burdens to Carry,so we are both accountable for their future. Thank u so much ladies and Gentlemen 👏👏👏👏👏

[@bridgetndyamuhaki8873]

I cant thank you enough for bringing Andrew and Godfrey, this generation is blessed to have you

[@annenasubo4890]

Totally agree

[@MsJalia]

Manuela, I like your submission on each gender being mindful and conscious of the extremes. Naye Banange men don't want to listen when we air out what we feel as women, Kaweddemu.

[@manuelap.mulondo]

Yes we do need to be mindful for sure.

[@nkundwashanice574]

Beverly is my new Pumla. Very strong opinionated. Love you lady❤❤

[@Zladok]

It's not in the act of washing the feet It's in the expectation even when she doesn't want to. Just because your father did it doesn't make it right! ...even fools have children, even fools grow old.

[@DeDollyshow]

Our upbringing is embedded in culture, religion, and personal beliefs, and that limits our way of thinking and been open minded, all i hear from the gentlemen is culture this , culture that ! There is one question I ask people all the time, so "outside of culture and religion " if you're asked to describe what kind of person you are . What will be your answer Are your principles based on your upbringing ?There is a basic rule in life: "Do unto others as you want others to do unto you" The underlining factor is that we're all human beings and need to be treated right. Heal from whatever trauma you've experienced before you get into any partnership, adulting is about learning, unlearning, and relearning. Just do better❤

[@peacepatience]

Beautiful conversation if you listen with an open mind. Mr. Kyamagero is spot on about childhood trauma, absent father effects and the need for father figures in fatherless homes. It saves a lot. Mr. Kuteesa is right about the basic expectations of both genders. Ego to a man is his identity and that is a hot spot. To me, Toxic masculinity is that space where even your fellow men can’t figure out how to help you because you are stuck in a rigid place and refuse knowledge. Great episode, ladies! Thank you.

[@kondeleticia8444]

This is hot. Men that actually don't fear to say it and can actually hold a conversation yet stay polite, confident and sure of themselves. Respect gentlemen. Ladies thank you this is very educative and informative

[@OCHIRAFRANCIS]

Thanks for show, much appreciation to the esteemed gentleman and to the amazing ladies. Great discussion, quite insightful. My concern is you picked a small sample size of men to represent multicultural society on a multifaceted issue or topic and for that reason the views and experiences shared are limited to that sample size. Having men from the 4 corners of our country would have given wider scope to deal with this issue. Thanks again, loved the discussion.

[@lindaaine824]

Toxic masculinity is the topic but the men whose masculinity is the most toxic were chosen

[@ronaldkayizzi8459]

Watch your tongue, you risk sounding obscene.

[@qxy7440]

Interesting point of view. Just started watching. Will let you know my opinion on this.

[@chipod6254]

I'm also watching now let's meet just now

[@aidahal1482]

Your view is just narrow, stop being a people pleaser and do the right thing

[@jdm3762]

Nkugambye... both singing the same old song and Kyamagero with his misplaced english words ... I can't 😞 Bev tried though.

[@gracendibalekera2813]

Thanks Beverly for the wonderful deliberations. Your eloquence is a winner

[@rashidahkakimba8996]

See, i got my favorite is Bev. Flowers for you Lady.

[@Nambozobev]

Thanks. I receive the flowers.🤩

[@KomanaKTetteh_KokazTreatz]

The topic of toxic masculinity is happening in Asia too. I’m in China and it’s all over Chinese media and the women are speaking out on their experiences. Just because you haven’t heard something, doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

[@aishahussein2122]

Toxic is across the globe .

[@helenbwesigye6075]

Tell them

[@MelyKab]

Exactly, well said, I live in china too for some years now and yes women are speaking out on their experiences.

[@ugandankitchen.]

Thanks for bringing Andrew kyamagero and Godfrey kuteesa. These men speak sense to me.

[@lilywhite8029]

This background is so nostalgic I felt Pumla and colleagues in the room. Now this is bump love.

[@nyesigahellen1474]

This issue of not giving the boy child affection I think is the main issue causing depression and mental breakdown in men

[@maureennegesa9717]

What a heated conversation .. Thanking for hosting the gentlemen, most men would rather defend than accept when they are wrong right from generations before. Back then our mothers stayed but in this era i think things are a little bit different and we all aught to better. To save marriages and relationships takes God but also a little more understanding (work) other wise we are so many single adults today. I know of a grown up man who told me something that blew my mind he said "this issue of women thinking they should be taken care of.... we are not their fathers" and he lives by it and that comes with so many other toxic behaviors.# toxic men exist

[@atuhairwemary.immaculate4380]

I struggled watching this episode because the men who were chosen are as toxic as a topic. Lets accept that there are men who are bad regardless of the environment at home. Not all men are responsible and its dangerous that men like these are given airtime to talk to communities. This is only going to perpecuate the situations that are already happening in the communities. We all go through alot but being emotionally, financially and physically present is also a choice that men have to take on.

[@arafatbarigye5301]

Truth is always hard to hear and if it wasn't them then which men did u want them to bring the ones that correspondes with ur mentality with all due respect 😊

[@aishahussein2122]

These are real men not simps.

[@lindaaine824]

Me I couldn't even go past the intros

[@Zladok]

Meanwhile kyamagero hosts man cave on TV which means he's influencening young men Kuteesa runs an NGO for young boys basically the problem continues for our daughters.

[@atuhairwemary.immaculate4380]

@@aishahussein2122 a man blaming women for their misfortune doesnt make them real men

[@hajaramutesi1633]

I have enjoyed this episode. It has given me all the fills from eagerness, ecstasy, anxiety to mention but a few. Also evocative of self reflection. I have also confirm that men would rather climb a mountain than accept to take accountability for their part in failing a home. But ladies thank you for the show.

[@mariemunamasaka4441]

Thanks for the show. The discussion was somewhat one-sided and egoistic whenever the men spoke. I'm shocked at some of "Mr. Kyamagero's" utterances. He comes off as a bully rather than the alpha male he's trying to portray

[@kanisakisakyewanyama459]

Am shocked aswell

[@zubedahmayanja9713]

Yeah i was thinking that too its not really giving Alpha male its like he is trying to convince himself that he deserves that rather than be that.

[@consolateayoo1734]

No alpha males here. They're are chauvinistic pigs. Pardon my language 😅

[@gladys.k.1050]

Yes…A HUGE NARCISSISTIC BULLLY …I know one when I see one

[@CarenWandera-d9t]

Caren here from Kenya, and a bump love follower, this is by far the worst episode i have watched on Bump Love, every time the men spoke, it was rubbish, as mum of boys, i am dumbfounded, i hope one day when i get a daughter, they never end up with men raised by these two, what nonsense is this, we need to be humane to both our wives and husbands, i only wanted to listen to Bev, please dont ever subject us to such foolishness, its really appalling and disgusting mindset

[@kevintrump6594]

In Uganda we are still real men we shall not allow to be feminised by Western culture. The current issues u ar facing as Kenya is partly bcoz u have allowed to be controlled by the west

[@kibsmuhanguzi6071]

What a foolish comment! Go for religious prayers

[@daltonssegirinya8241]

You seem to be someone to whom winning an argument is very important. In your view, WINNING IS MOST IMPORTANT. Bear in mind and never forget that the moment you take the discussion into swearing and insults, YOU HAVE LOST THE ARGUMENT. Be sure that you have an understanding of the topic of discussion to present a credible point of view. Be sure to listen to the other point of view and honestly consider the merits of this opposing opinion. If, in being honest with yourself, the other opinion makes more sense, admit it. Congratulations! You just learned something by listening and considering another side of the argument. Sometimes someone will say something very stupid and will not listen to anything else. For example: “The Earth is flat, I know this, and you cannot change my mind.”

[@SandraTusingwire]

Flowers for Beverly for insisting on defending the woman. Mubutufu why wouldn't the man kuguma yet women are expected to do the same. These egoist conservative men brought up during war also!

[@Nambozobev]

I receive the flowers. 🎉

[@aidahal1482]

I hate such opinions, keep it for you,

[@sandrahtusingwire6227]

@aidah hate it if you like, everyones opinions matters¡ besides am just echoing and questioning what the gentlemen admit to; if you are keen enough to listen before you throw your toxicity here!

[@SwaimahCerlyx]

😂😂😂

[@kazville1]

This episode will definitely get bumplove more eyeballs, but will attract a completely different audience than most loyal viewers. Nze nga nze this will be the last one I watch. I can’t continue to subscribe to a show “for women” that provides a platform to views like this, and does not challenge them. Would have been good to have another man providing some rebuttals to what was spewed here, or atleast the co-hosts not laughing through most of it. It’s a serious conversation with potential ramifications like normalizing emotional abuse of women, but the opinions were just left to air. Maybe that’s the new audience Bump Love wants and it might be an even bigger one. I wish them the best but this direction is not it! Thanks!

[@MistyEE21]

I felt your pain and I could relate. It was very toxic and painful to watch.

[@BBonietor1]

You are absolutely correct, there needs to be an edit may be a part 2 for some one to refute all these toxicity

[@akamukundajulian8847]

Disturbing conversations with those two male psychos totally contradicts the purpose for the show.the fact that these dump women kept laughing is soo disgusting.

[@nakitendenaomi152]

As toxic as it feels, its a show showing wat happens with some men in our country...be open minded n dont take it personal ....bump love is still a good show...

[@kazville1]

@@nakitendenaomi152 good shows are balanced. This one isn’t. The danger is young men and women will think this is the only way of thinking and yet it’s not. The goal of the moderators should be to provide a balanced view, a real debate not just an ignorant expression of opinions. Anyway for those that enjoy this type of content, like I said, let them enjoy & stick around.

[@spectrumbeautyandmore]

Today's discussion 🙌 I believe we should reconsider the balance between traditional roles and modern expectations. It's challenging to achieve everything simultaneously and finding a sustainable balance is essential.

[@DignaK]

This episode has me triggered on all levels!!!!! Ahhhh🤨🤨🤨🤨 these men refuse to take responsibility of the their roles in how men and women turn out in adulthood. They are busy stereotyping women that were raised by single moms. What about men that were raised by single moms. Both of them are saying they didn’t get attention and affection from their fathers. That is not okay. They need therapy. There’s a lot from their childhood that needs to be addressed. “A man love towards his son is actually to detach.” Now that’s toxic. Boys growing up without love from their fathers has created men like these. No no. Unacceptable. Women were not created to follow. Society has made it that way. That doesn’t make it okay. You men need to know better and do better. And why is the lady is yellow quiet? Honestly it’s giving “Pick me. I am not like other girls.” 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@marianabanks8886]

Well said!!!! These men have grown up with harmful beliefs that they have perpetuated into adulthoood with so sign of progression. They need therapy!!!

[@namutebimukasanissen9916]

Totally agree with this comment. Let’s also be careful how we mix culture and religion. If using the Bible as a standard we should not pick and choose. Jesus is King of Kings and yet he washed his disciples’ feet. Where are the servant leaders here?

[@haryetta]

Hmmmmm… religion has its own culture that has nothing to do with other cultures. The culture in this discussion is very very different from the culture that was before so I don’t really understand what they are talking about as far as culture is concerned

[@josiebanks7086]

Well said. Thank you amillion. My in-laws were shaming my husband for loving his son. He should be "very tough" and rude to him

[@thoughtsofgertrude8163]

From the comments I have read, I will sit this one out. I don't want to get triggered.

[@Jeremiah0809]

Thanks!! Me too

[@lucyisoke5894]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 some of us are braving it out on the catchup till our "meeme ntono" caves from some of the opinions 😂😂😂😂

[@thoughtsofgertrude8163]

@@lucyisoke5894 i really want to naye naa 😅

[@motivatedqueen7804]

Same here

[@ritah2680]

Thanks so much for this. We need a part two of this panel. It's really educative and interesting

[@NakiwalaRose]

Wives align men and husbands align families. I love that.

[@acandaritah9670]

Bev blows my mind every time she speaks. You give me energy energy lady!

[@herbertkwikirizacollines4913]

she was just laughing the entire episode

[@mugumebenice3388]

​@@herbertkwikirizacollines4913u must b talking about Barbara.. Bev is the lady in purple.

[@herbertkwikirizacollines4913]

@@mugumebenice3388 she didn't speak much either. The men dominated the discussion

[@mugumebenice3388]

@@herbertkwikirizacollines4913she tried

[@acandaritah9670]

@@herbertkwikirizacollines4913 do you really know who Bev is among those ladies?

[@MARYKOMUKYEYA]

But parents s that take their sons to Mr. Kuteesa for mentorship should discontinue because our daughters ain't ready for them

[@VictorAtwiine]

I appreciate my mom so much,I complained so much when I was young that she wasn't giving me attention, little did I know that she was preparing the son to face the unpredictable world ,❤❤

[@nakafeerosusan8813]

Hello ladies, thanks for the good work. Am a big fan. Well, here's my view: I recommend Miss. Bev for representing us (women) so well. I picked out a few important points from both sides, however, I kinda felt disappointed by some submissions from men- they were ego-centric. Even not letting Bev speak her mind was toxic enough. Leave alone how Mr. Kuteesa kept on addressing her as "mwe abolozungu"..... what was that supposed to mean?! The men refusing to take responsibility broke my soul. Miss. Barbra choosing not to say anything! In a nutshell, this topic wasn't done justice enough.....

[@gladys.k.1050]

Mwe aboluzungu was meant to shake her confidence as a bullying tactic

[@nakafeerosusan8813]

@@gladys.k.1050 sadly! And my gal stood her ground. Bravo Bev

[@rogersruyonga9421]

I really appreciate each one of the panelists. so many take-homes here. lest i forget, Andrew is a gem and a national treasure that deserves to be given at most security.

[@ceciliamwebaza9377]

Love how much these men share❤ we are glad they are here🔥

[@sandrabaweze2352]

Honestly i cant believe these men have such mindsets 🙌🙌🙌🙌 anyway exposure and environments play a very important role on who we are or become 😊

[@thechristianperspective]

I havent watched naye the mere fact Mwami kuteesa ayambadde ekitengi....i can imagine what he is going to say...hoooooo

[@ugandankitchen.]

😂😂😂😂 You know him well

[@dearwoman783]

Me just seeing him there, I can't watch. Let me wait for next Friday.

[@thechristianperspective]

​@@dearwoman783i have watched today but i feel that he has relaxed a little, the last time i saw him on ride with the mulondos i watched for a few minutes and didnot watch the rest because i felt that he was being entitled.....i saw him on kasuku live and i disregarded the video immediately, however from todays show, i think 70% 0f what he says is bibilical and good but his 30 is a mixture of people that havent undertood love

[@namiirojose6824]

​@@dearwoman783😂😂 please watch, there seems to be a romantic side of him

[@anonnona6433]

​@@namiirojose6824😂😂😂😂😂😂😂it's just his mode of delivery. He has holy anger. Men are becoming toooo soft these days. The ancestors are speaking through him 😂😂

[@muhindijude7738]

Hi Bump Love Is it possible to invite their wives or partners? Both sides of the story would be nice

[@tracymusiimenta9339]

It’s quite depressing to see the lens in which some men view women and masculinity itself

[@Marieotaremwa]

Thank you ladies and gentlemen for this show! Well first of all it has got us talking and that’s good for the new season. Secondly, I think people will run to jump into their feelings over a singled out phrase without context, but if you watch the entire episode with an open mind to learn, you will find that it was an interesting discussion and awakening. As a mother of boys, I have learnt a lot. Thanks Ladies

[@patriciaamongin6662]

I know of a very grate man who stayed even when the wife didn't submit coz yah she grew up with a tough childhood and once God redeemed her she learned submission which she still struggles with ,but this man couldn't leave coz he had promised God before his marriage that he was in to stay. There are women who are better leaders than men

[@bernadettemutuzo729]

Amen to that!

[@lflekluwemba]

Hooooo lots of work to do!

[@KigeziCoffee]

Key points Love and Respect

[@angelayez9114]

41:55 It seems to me that these two men believe in tough love as the only way to bring up a male child. Which got me thinking, this tough love leads to a traumatized grown up man, who is not in touch with his emotions, doesn’t know how to treat others any better and even worse ends up being abusive to women. I see how this belief in a male child upbringing could be the lead cause of toxic masculinity.

[@atuhairwemary.immaculate4380]

Thats how generational traumas arw passed on from one generation to another.

[@gladys.k.1050]

Exactly,that is how they were raised and thats why we have the poorly bred guests we have today

[@evasatwinekansiime5106]

Thank you Bumplove for hosting these two toxic men that are causing so much damage to the family institution! I hope this show helps to expose the danger of entrusting our children to a person like Mr Kuteesa! Other than projecting and propagating very damaging ego, what other productive advise can one get from those two? Sad that the hosts can even laugh about such pathetic submissions!

[@joantumuhairwe3505]

Well said…Dr( I hope) 😊😉 We can’t be laughing at this toxicity. I thought Mr. Kutesa was born again. I don’t seem to hear anything godly and his tongue and descriptions are harsh but that’s how he had decided to build his brand. Mr Kyamagero,,no words. You are trending alright. Be truthful. If it’s for likes, and comments the show has got them.

[@keisha1304]

Bravery,I love you... May you grow more in wisdom and understanding

[@gift2362]

❤❤❤

[@specijuma9291]

Watching from Kenya... I built up some anger while listening to this conversation. Especially on the matter of massaging the feet. Thankyou Beverly for standing up for the women. We should realize that the generations are changing and the manner of handling things is different. The manual for marriage is the Bible, Act like Christ does to the church. I 99%DISAGREE with everything said by these men.

[@paulmukasa9505]

You’re just delusional

[@mosesmagezi2419]

No body cares wether you agree or not . Just find your man ad make him into a docile you want .but men will be men. If you say everything has changed in modern era then why use jesus as he loved the tch ad bible a manual yet you claimed to have moved like the modern era .

[@maurynkugonza2105]

If you say the manual for marriage is the Bible and still say you 99% disagree with these men, then clearly you are prolly reading a different Bible and hence contradicting yourself

[@nyagahcecilia3404]

​@@maurynkugonza2105John 3.16 that is the kind of love. Sacrificial on both sides. That is the bible

[@mirembegracejuliet1387]

ho!!!!!! these two definitely subscribe to the same world. Very conservative men!

[@kisaaliitadennis6276]

For a very long time i thought that I am a social misfit for believing in the basics of masculinity but at least i can confirm that i completely resonate with Mwami Kuteesa. He is such a detailed informed man.

[@joykironde5906]

Am agreeing with both Kuteesa and Kyamegero. As a mother at the end of the day i just cant imagine myself raising a man whose going to ask me for a plan when hes wife asks for one and to also think that men can think as women or women can think as men will never happen. The ladies seem to be putting their emotions out there on logical men!!

[@aysherbuzu]

Why would a supposed sober man like Andrew say "It takes a lot of guts for a man for a man to decide every day to come back to you"? I am completely dissapointed in the type of mindset bump love is propagating to boys/men with such takes from a married man who by virtue of experience should know better.

[@brianbenson9469]

Instead of being disappointed in what he said ask yourself why he said that ?

[@aysherbuzu]

@@brianbenson9469 it's like asking a rapist why they raped a child. There is absolutely no justification for the dung he said. Rubbish is rubbish regardless of why it is said.

[@mosesmagezi2419]

​@@brianbenson9469women lack comprehension. Every one is red headed but no comprehension whatsoever. This episode actually has finally helped this show gain some credibility.women enjoy delusional useless shimmy jazz were they say hogwash ad all are happy but reality ad accountability is there biggest cryptonyt.

[@Thatgirlcharlene]

​@@mosesmagezi2419I don't think you know what comprehension and accountability mean!!!!!

[@nagindajudith1441]

And then went on kasuku and back tracked on everything 😂😂😂

[@annenasubo4890]

There is alot to learn from these men. They are speaking the truth, thank you Mr. Kyamagero and Mr. Kutesa

[@bateeraanna4315]

This is so educative, the Gentlemen are strong, the moment we learn to listen positively we learn and this is for both genders

[@celestemiriams8464]

I live in the comment section. Mwami Kuteesa asimbudde. I really love these guys they always have a lot to share. Mwami Kyamagero will represent us who love soft love 😅.

[@nakityoroseddumba]

The Combination is Mwaaaaaaa👌👌👌👌 son of Namukasa yabuzeewo Kasuku

[@gladys.k.1050]

He so did not 😂

[@theoriesofeverythingexplained]

Wow, Beverly articulates herself so well ❤.

[@akatwijukamaryvian5272]

I missed Pumla like 1000 times in this episode 😌

[@kasaijaemmy-gc7wq]

She needs to be here

[@kirundazuena9219]

I always miss her

[@phyby9651]

U miss her small 😂 I miss her sooooo much she would b the one to stand these 2 men.

[@kaliisakaita5831]

Where did she go?did they separate?

[@Godsfave]

Omg i came to say this!!Pumla would have been soo great putting these Men in their places.I miss pumla sooooo bad

[@sheilynananura9228]

while i appreciate the submission by Mr. Kuteesa on men stepping up, am not pro negating the soft skills required by the man and he seems to recommend that that part is killed. This in itself is what breeds masculine toxicity.

[@claireakurut9918]

One thing ive realised about such conversations is the men fight tooth and nail to gate keep the old ways and their toxic traits while in the same breath ALWAYS demanding that the women SHOULD bear the burden of having to morph around them. Like why is the 21st century man acting like women have not evolved and they are sitted ryt next to them but wont acknowledge them.

[@kisaakyeruth1584]

This!!!👌

[@namiliraviola18viola28]

Mr.Kuteesa ,😂😂😂I have been following up his conversations on Twitter his posts about current youth behavior really make me happy 😂😂😂 .He has not disappointed in this show as well.

[@Twine256-nx1pl]

I don’t understand the thinking of the choice of guests today considering their known misogyny. Why are they continuously being given a platform (by women I believe are smarter) to spew harmful narratives? Is it for engagement? This platform I think is better than this extreme madness and continuous blatant display of misogynistic views.

[@lindaaine824]

Was dumb founded the whole time

[@kisakyejulianna9026]

Why indeed???! I was disappointed that these two were platformed. They dont deserve it. Their individual platforms are doing enough harm as it is.

[@glorianamaalwa3238]

I felt the exact same way! Are we clout chasing bump love? Is that what we are doing now?

[@joantumuhairwe3505]

The choice of the guests is for popularity, likes and comments. So far it’s the only thing that has been achieved in this episode plus we’ve been reminded that Mr Kyamagero actually cooks for his wife unlike what he is saying here.

[@sunshineheaven1802]

We need to not just hear that they exist but to see that they are even educated and have jobs in society. They exist, when someone tells you this, you will not argue because you have witnessed it.

[@kamesehilda3363]

Wooooow very educative entertaining show

[@brendaochieng3453]

Hello bump love. I've been here for 3years now and I'm a Kenyan so i don't understand your language kindly speak in English or put for us subtitles. You began well but stopped at some point. Thank you for the good job you're doing, we are always inspired. Love from Kenya

[@JescaMug]

They put subtitles please rewatch

[@musenerohilda9040]

This is an insightful conversation into how men think....katufumbire abasajja baffe....the tone and choice of words is my take home today.

[@praisemuesigieh3904]

Seeing the men on set I just prepared myself to get annoyed😂😂 I love Bev and her submissions always🥰

[@tendowinny1102]

😂😂

[@angellamarthaayaro6210]

Me too😂😂I already feel angry I'm yet to feel angrier

[@bayegokauma739]

UNBELIEVABLE. . .

[@acomodiana4938]

Its disrespectful to the show to keep mentioning hosts names that are nolonger in it.....by the way those names your mentioning have youtube talk shows as well.....follow them there....Temutukoyaa!!! I wish this one was here...bla bla bla.......adaptability is one of the best traits in life......am a strong bump lover.....kudos to Manuela and the new team....who are actually 👌 . Watching from 🇨🇦 🍁 🇨🇦 am a die hard follower.

[@ritaariho921]

talk about it

[@mariont2961]

why are you so angry banange! its okay for people to comment how they feel and what they want

[@acomodiana4938]

@mariont2961 the Bible says feelings are deceitful and always look at the end result of your words....and how it will affect people arround you in this case the show.

[@BrandonsPodcast]

I'm Inspired Here. Looking Forward to Making it On a Show like this. Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus. The Way We Solve Problems is Slightly Different. Some by Conversation, the Problems are Gone. Others, Conversation Gravens the Issue. The Latter Act Out Of Their Problems.❤❤

[@yourmentalhealthplug256]

Bev is the real deal 🤝😊😊😊❤❤❤💃💃💃 Proud of you girl This episode is 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Well done ladies ❤

[@Nambozobev]

Appreciation.

[@restiemarielofficial4562]

This show should be re-broadcasted again with Ruth Kalibala Bwanika ❤ it's so interesting. Thanks Godfrey Kutesa and Mr Kyamzzzzz

[@JaneFrancesApila]

Beverly looking royal in purple❤❤❤

[@Nambozobev]

Thank you. Purple has become a new favourite

[@JaneFrancesApila]

@@Nambozobev Same here, That's why only lavender air freshner catches my eye at supermarkets🤣🤣

[@AmEliCloud-yq1vq]

Great programme, Please keep doing Men with Women topics...marriage,dating etc...Programme is so needed it will sky rocket. Since NTV took away the MEN programme there has been a gap. It helps women understand men and men to understand their roles..bring in also respectable Elders men and women eg; like Ps Sempa and others who understand marriage ,finances etc...Excited about what is coming for this programme ,keep it up

[@atuhairenation2740]

Very insightful and educative, this is one of the best shows Bump Love has done to me, bring Mr.Kuteesa and Mr.Kyamagero again, this generation needs more men like you. Thank you Bump love team.

[@GibzAmooti]

Thanks very much. It's so informative that I started to understand somethings better. Appreciate it really

[@patriciavaleria5014]

Our society gives men toooooo many excuses…. Andrew and Godfrey have just confirmed

[@anonnona6433]

May be it's not society but it's innate 😂😂😂🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️.

[@Twine256-nx1pl]

The bar is so low … it’s in the basement 😂

[@iraenhe286]

​@@Twine256-nx1plhell if you ask me 😂😂

[@tkzeewendy]

@@Twine256-nx1plthe bar is in hell