Bungie Halo Isn't Perfect

[@nazbear2000]

bungie is lameeee ❤ crybabies in the comments need to GET OVER IT

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

There is nothing to get over, as if a single youtube video could put a dent into the undeniable legacy of Bungie that was so easily tainted by 343.

[@Mr_Cobain]

rule #1 to be a halo fan: Hate Halo xd

[@angelcarnahan6960]

@@Mr_Cobain technically true. To be a true Halo fan, you have to hate the parts that suck because you know it can do better. You've seen it do better and be better before it wasn't. 😌

[@Deadshot-zr5ob]

@@Mr_Cobainhate 343’s halo*

[@kemmybelleuwu]

This video is horrible and majority of her points are dogshit and she hardly elaborates

[@ashton8352]

This is definitely ragebait 😭

[@gamewojtek]

But done with proper care, I love it

[@TyrannoWright]

This video hurts my soul, even for satire... Let alone dissing Breaking Benjamin like that.

[@MclovinJr117]

There was many moments where i thought, "this has to be bait", but what sealed it was "forerunners aren't humans". Kinda disappointed tbh, i like bungie and 343 era Halo equally so i was actually intrigued to see a video that wasn't just the typical nostalgic Bungie meat riding session. Still a funny watch, and the idea of bungie meat riders not getting the joke is entertainment on its own.

[@contestleader2721]

Yeah, the 'Human aren't forerunners' bit was just a statement said as if it were a criticism, with no actual explanation being given as to why it's a criticism

[@devourerinthemist]

10/10 good troll. No Bungie wasn't perfect, and neither was Halo under their tutelage, but Bungie Halo is the original vision. 343 is trash, not that they never had a single good idea, but they ran a world class franchise into the ground. Halo probably should have ended with Reach, but I do enjoy the 343 games too, most of them need to be fixed by mods though XD

[@devourerinthemist]

Also, if the Bungie Halo OST's make you feel nothing, it's because you have no soul. I have my issues with Marty, but he and Michael Salvatori are forever GOATED, and the reason I bothered to learn music composition.

[@onyxlegacy8382]

This is prime satire! Those interviews are literally peak.

[@Bruhmoment-d5f]

You mean a game from 2001 doesn’t look like a modern game. the difference in 343 halos and bungies is you need to read the books to understand the games for 343 Bungies books only added to the games. You don’t need to play them to understand them.

[@AG-xz7ne]

You had me going in the first half i'm not gonna lie.

[@AlexanTheMan]

Expected genuine constructive criticism, instead we got nitpick parade.

[@f4ngdragon183]

I love this bait. Bless you, Cheese You are right doe, Bungee failed Halo 3 by not introducing a battle pass and a bajillion-level-based progression system with seasonal skins and premium currencies, Three Four Three would be better than Nintendo if the Bungee nerds didn't steal happiness from us 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@wtwt3619]

Came for an informative video documentary discussing the nuance of the more negative takeaways of Bungie’s shortcomings on the OG Halo games. Left with the realization that Zoomers are now delving into mid 2000’s fanboy/girl ragebait response memes to generate views. 69/10: I’m going to grab my Papa John’s order, this comment better be #1 when I get back

[@spartanjohn-1176]

Cry, She's right

[@wtwt3619]

@@spartanjohn-1176 r/woosh

[@juanote8943]

Care to share the video?

[@r-fitz9739]

This dude eats Papa John's

[@TyrannoWright]

@@spartanjohn-1176 Elaborate.

[@chiefshep5885]

Not the worst troll video out there

[@Eluvix]

Awful take. Everybody knows that Halo Spartan Assault is the best Halo.

[@angelcarnahan6960]

Eww, Spartan Strike was better. . .

[@LiamRyan-o8n]

The title is the truth. The contents of the video are bland, surface-level complaints about one of the best, most cohesive game series ever conceived. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the games weren't built in the wake of their own influence on the entire medium of gaming, they are the wave that changed gaming forever. The fact you think games that did one or two things better than Halo while offering an overall worse, less cohesive, less compelling, less innovative experience -that was best-in-class and still very much is best-in-class- are better than these masterpieces means you're absolutely bonkers in your expectations. Also you didn't even begin to talk about the worst line in the series which is Miranda saying, "To war." which means you clearly weren't even paying attention

[@ThatGuyNamedRick]

Bungie wasn't perfect, anyone can agree to that, but we can easily agree that 343 was a company built to keep halo crawling along staffed with people who would do everything in their prevue to keep it bleeding out. It's just sad to see that Bungie is now the same way as the oldheads are retired and elsewhere. Remember what you lost, remember what they took from you.

[@Recon_Ninja]

Some of these points are legitimate, but the interviews make it clear that it's trolling.

[@TheHTFAmv]

As much as I love halo, it's kinda refreshing to see a different take CE was never my favorite, I "like" the combat, but its my least favorite in the franchise (even though its been growing on me). The multiplayer can be annoying, but it's fun just to run around trying to get kills with the stupidly overpowered weapons. The story is eh, minus the flood reveal, which was super cool. I didn't grow up playing this game, until I got an xbox in like, 2019. So that's probably why Halo 2's story is amazing, but the gameplay is ok. Duel weilding is mid, unless it's plasma rifles or needlers. I've never liked the multiplayer, maybe bc I never experienced it on the og xbox. Mcc's sbmm/hit reg be dumb sometimes, or maybe i just need to git gud. I don't care about the cliff hanger, since i can jump into Halo 3. Halo 3's story is the opposite for me. The story is mid, but the gameplay is amazing.(minus the ending) Buuuut the story doesn't really get good until after the storm (the iconic final effort cutscene) Sierra, Crows Nest & Tsavo Hwy are still fun gameplay-wise tho. The battle rifle is ass, but its still better than whatever happened to the sword. (h2 sword my beloved) I love the equipment, but I hate how its a get of jail free card in multiplayer (which tbf, reach is worse for this) CE has my favorite multiplayer, but my favorite game mode in general is Halo 4 swat.

[@dutchdeluxe69]

L opinion. There's a reason bungies Halos were a huge success, and 343s were the opposite.

[@nopenoperton249]

Yeah, this is straight up troll behavior.

[@spartanjohn-1176]

The reason is too easy, not having competition. Halo 1 was the first console shooter with features that PC shooters already had, and Halo 2 was the first console shooter with online multiplayer, Halo 3 only inherited what the other games had, when did the competition come out, which was cod 4 Halo was defeated and eclipsed.

[@nopenoperton249]

@@spartanjohn-1176 Halo was not defeated by COD. They were competitive rivals. You’re probably too young to remember, but around the 2010s, there was a huge Halo player base and an equally huge COD player base. And there was a large demographic of gamers who simply loved both.

[@spartanjohn-1176]

@@nopenoperton249 The one who notices that you didn't live in that time is you. Halo 3, although it had many players, was the conclusion of a pioneering saga on XBOX, cod 4 was the first cod that sought to innovate in the market and surpassed halo 3 in all numbers, so much that halo reach did not even reach On the heels of the Cod of his time, he gained 100,000 players or less, compared to the millions of players of his rival Cod. There's a reason Halo 4 was looking to attract Cod players, because Halo was completely overshadowed by Cod, and it all started back in the days of Halo 3.

[@nopenoperton249]

@@spartanjohn-1176 Incorrect.

[@a.p.3192]

Aint no way she made a 26 minutes long ragebait during the darkest times of this series. Like this is the last thing we need😭😭

[@sasquatch11101]

By modern day standards the game play can be seen as weak but at the time CE was absolutely pioneering

[@derickgraeser9931]

Either the worst takes I've ever heard, or insanely well put together rage bait. 10/10 I want this to make it to the top 10 trending

[@BarrenIamninja]

I rusked to the comments, cause I knew it would be something of legends. Great video, keep up the great work.

[@bradleyrossross963]

might not of been perfect but compared to what we have now it is the mona lisa

[@juanote8943]

I love how many people say the story was so "le basic" and we got all the way to Halo 4 with fans not realizing that humanity were the forerunners.

[@juanote8943]

Also: "Bungie fanboys are le vocal minority". There's more people playing the MCC collection (Halo 3 multiplayer mostly) every given day on Steam than playing Halo Infinite, which is free to play". Sometimes you just gotta take the L dude.

[@davycannonhound9005]

Very well done. Masterful rage bait.

[@PWaldo-lw2ds]

Do me a favor and, before you try to criticize Halo: CE's level design and mechanics, go play Call of Duty. No, not the one you're thinking of, the first one. Go play Doom. Go play Goldeneye, or Quake, or Alien, or Turok, and compare Halo: CE to those games. Halo is a game that came out, from the sound of your voice, not long before you were born. Game design has changed MASSIVELY in 20 years, and even within the timespan of Bungie's Halo games, you can see a change in design philosophy in levels. And even then, the copy/paste nature of Halo: CE is meant to work in its favor, both to reduce production time and costs, but to help tell the story. You SEE how the world changes around you, both due to your actions and the actions of the Covenant. The Library is a panned level for a reason, but returning to the Covenant carrier, or the Pillar of Autumn all have distinct reasons for existing, and they aren't just cheap copy/paste/repeat. You think fighting the Flood is hard? Use Covenant weaponry, as the game intends, or weapons like the MA5B or Shotgun to deal with their hordes. Shoot for the Infection Form weakpoints, which are the 'heads' of the Flood, and they fall like dominoes. They're an entirely different beast to the Covenant, and I'm going to go out on a limb, but the only reason you aren't shocked by the Flood's reveal is because you knew about them ahead of time. Do the games hold up perfectly? No, but neither do a lot of old, classic games compared to the standards of today. Doom has no 3-dimensional camera, which feels odd and strange to contend with. The monsters are plain and simple, level design is sometimes questionable, and some levels are designed to make you back-track multiple times just to get a few colored keys. That doesn't make Doom a bad game. It makes Doom a product of its time. Give these older titles some time, and then come back to Halo, and see if your opinions have changed on it.

[@XeZzamE]

some top tier hiddenxperia iconic certified bait right here you love to see it

[@Sahlan_Ahamed]

This is satire right? I truely believe it's one! 😭 But I'll share my opinion anyway. It's like you took all the minor cricism alongside lack of knowledge and ramped it upto a 11. Seriously? Graphics of a 2001 game doesn't look photorealistic is an actual complain? And on a side note, Infinite doesn't look very awe inspiring or photorealistic either. First let's say, No One's Perfect, No Game is Perfect, and no one's denying that. I didn't experience Halo 1-5 at it's time. But when I got into Halo, I was hooked. I played the games, watched the marketing materials, read the books and became a massive fan. And I'd safely say that it's not the Halo 5 Cortana and Created that sparked my interest, it's the Bungie games, their storylines, The Human-Covenant War that interested me. Maybe the game's stories are little thin, but they were executed for the most part, especially in Halo 2. The Arbiter and his arc added a lot of nuance to the story, and Bungie knew that Chief never needed any interpretation development or an arc bcs the main focus was the war. His development is essentially ending the war, while books provided further details into his thought process and his relationship with others. The story was just enough to have you hooked for the gameplay. I'm no Bungie purist. Bungie definitely isn't perfect, true. Halo 2 had balancing issues, Halo CE Flood levels were painful, Halo 2 narrative might be jarring for some (but I found it to be a lot more nuanced), and there were other issues too. But they were able to deliver something that still to date means something to many and that's a truely incredible feat. They defined the Halo gameplay, and it's different for a reason - everything doesn't need to be the same thing. COD or Destiny doesn't need to play like Halo and Halo doesn't need to play like them. Changing the entire identity is not called innovation, it's renovation and no one asked for that. And yes, in terms of story, 343 focused a lot on thematic relevance and personal character development and that's not a problem until... they start making lot of bad decisions related it, especially needing you to know the lore to understand the games or pushing quantity over quality when it comes to novels. When they focus on the person journey, they tent to forgot rest of the plot and the world. It happened with Halo 4 and it happened again with Halo Infinite. Character development? Yes. At what cost? Rest of the world. Halo 4 didn't do any justice to Prometheans but the story wrapped up bcs the character arc is over. Infinite stopped at the cliffhanger but in their POV, character arc is over. They have a chance to truely combine character depth with the world and exploration for a much grandeur storytelling but they didn't. Halo 5 was supposed to be something but it ended up being nothing. And again, if Bungie games are soo boring and "objectively bad" (which it isn't) and Halo 4/5 are "innovative", why would 343, with Infinite, tried to distance themselves from 4/5 and attempt to align closer with OG games (which was a good decision BTW) while having some modern mechanics? Doesn't it feel like going back on time instead of "innovating" like Halo 5? Halo Infinite, in many is not an innovation. And those interviews... Those three dots are enough I think. I'm not a 343 defender, but I do hope new management looks back at everything and makes a wise decision. That's all we can hope for 🙌

[@libertyprime8964]

Bro I thought that intro was satire! Talking about some “golden days of halo 4.”🤣

[@stateyournameplease]

Pretty sure it is..

[@theblueheart2662]

Literally made my eyebrows raise when you said "lame rock music"

[@Android_ELITE]

I was hoping way less people were going to take the bait but here we are

[@nopenoperton249]

THE INTERVIEWS ARE HILARIOUS. “They over sexualize women, which is bad because I like men. … 343i is good because they made Chief trans and he is gay for Locke.” 😂😂😂

[@PaladinSaris]

Zoomer doesn't get hardware limitations: The video.

[@soundclock2939]

I haven't seen this much bait since I went into a Bass Pro Shop

[@Rippers-TV]

Complaining about getting to play as the Arbiter? Do you know how stoked we were when you could do that, the fact that you could USE the energy sword was amazing.

[@tamezzodiac2862]

Bungie halo wasn't perfect, and halo still had so much potential still. That's where I get mad. The bar was set so low with 343 games that Bungies halo seems untouchable. I really believe that if what happened with reach was looked at as a "do not do again," and halo went back to going from just 3 on and inovating the ways halo 1-2-3 did, I believe halo would still be a household name. Unfortunately, everything good must come to a end so. It just sucks halo was cut so early on. It had years of potential left. Halo was only out 7 years when halo 3 released.

[@cqb3814]

Is this some kind of out of season april fools joke?

[@KrusherMike]

I was baited into feeling rage.

[@Nem_FFXIV]

yeah this video is stupid. Map quality and replayability dropped immensely in 343 era. story is not cohesive, moving in one intentional direction. Gameplay elements have modernized, which is pretty mandatory for an FPS but not done well. The interview section is so cringe.

[@bobac2816]

bait used to be believeable 🚬

[@nintendonerdjoseph]

I've never heard anyone claim they were.

[@Abrerrant]

Not sure if giga brain 4D rage bait video or legitimate garbage take

[@Xkay7]

rage bait use to be believable 😔

[@jph7472]

Its believable to like 99% of the people who commented unfortunately

[@followupcloniboies4490]

​@@jph7472so is that all what this was? Lol.

[@IndieLambda]

I was expecting an honnest personal take, not a meme just flipping everything the old heads repeat. I first got whiplash, but hey, trying to be funny isn't a crime.

[@Faintwolf]

Gotta be some satire or a late April fools type of video because what???? 😂😂😂 Like other people have said, you are very entitled to your opinions, but lord does it seem like you either are trying to make a rage bait video or your grasp on what makes a good video game is severely lacking. Not to mention, there was no speak of how the development time and process, stuff behind the scenes, severely affected the first three halo games. We all forgive and love halo 2 (which is usually touted as the best halo, with some arguing 3 but still) simply because what they had made with the small amount of time they had was absolutely mind boggling. Especially for the time. Yes, of course there was a ton of cut content, and many things about the og halo trilogy could have been done better, but there was actual love and passion behind those games that could be felt by us players. I could go on, and tear down every point you made in this video, but there’s no real reason to. Someone who would make this type of video is more than likely not going to listen to any sort of hate or actual criticism. Attacking fans of a product, and then having such a wild take about said product. Edit: just finished up the last segment where the creator has people who share their opinions come on to speak and….yall I think this is a troll video for real because wtf was that unscripted, rambling ass commentary 😂😂😂

[@cheporestrepo]

Shes got 0 criteria,

[@InsaneAlphaBeta]

The amount of people getting angry in the comments is so funny 😂 10/10

[@marksheen4873]

Bungie isn’t perfect. There’s plenty that needed fixing and much that never did get fixed but this video seems like straight 343 propaganda made by someone who was definitely wasn’t playing Ce until now more than 2 decades after its release

[@Hypernova968]

Under the mayo level opinion

[@eaglewatch0783]

Watched the vid, then visited the discord, I had to see if this was legit brain dead takes or bait. Bait indeed, as I was about to go on a tirade about the 90% of the stuff you said was objectively wrong lol.

[@The-python-guy]

you don't understand game design the games feel like all stuff you know and have done before because you did'nt play games before halo came it was completly different.

[@angelcarnahan6960]

not to mention the moments of seeing ads for the game. I Love Bees arg, Believe ad, Deliver Hope. While the story might've been childish, those peeks inside the story made it feel more mature as well.

[@Nighterac]

This is your average /r/ShitHaloSays user

[@sparkthedragon]

oh boy, theres one huge huge problem i think in this video, which is you are viewing bungies games like MODERN games, and also the story was never meant to be overly story focused, there is certainly lots of story but it stays simple. But this is like the 2000s, of course things are very different to how a normal game would be Also Halo 2 WAS cut off mid story pretty much, it had an insane crunch time, they wanted to end the trilogy with Halo 2 but couldn't due to the insane crunch they had, and while halo 2 certainly had bugs its no where near as bad as what most modern games have at launch And Halo 3 doesnt need to be innovative, its good it didn't try too much i think, it kept the game simple and how people knew the previous games Also, I was quite young when I started playing Halo, my first Halo game was Halo 3, I was 6, I played Halo 4 after, then Halo reach, then halo ce then halo 2, i think bungies games were much better, and 343 tried to improve too much, thats my issue, and i think infinite was close to being good but something felt really off, halo 4 was just ehh, and everything about halo 5 except warzone sucked I wouldn't say 343 added layers of depth either, they just recently added infection to Infinite after so long, and so much of the Halo community is older players, of course they want the game to stay mostly basic, and basic isnt bad, lots of games are basic and are fun BECAUSE they are basic and its not some vocal minority that hates 343 industries, why do you think halo infinite tried to go back to a more classic look and gameplay loop and why the leadership has been nearly completely replaced? my personal issue with 343s games is that they try to change too much of everything, if they kept the same artstyle and gameplay loop its fine, like i didnt hate halo 4, but i do hate halo 5 and infinite, halo 4 felt like halo reach for the most part to me, which is alright, but 343 also has a tendency to promise things that dont happen, remember the hunt the truth trailers? or their promise for all halo games to launch with splitscreen? and for halo infinite to launch with all the game modes we'd expect? that didn't happen, bungie didnt have to update their games overtime for it to have everything you'd expect, they launched with them at launch, like forge mode for example, and didnt need to rely on the community for help

[@roar104]

haven't watched probably won't watch, just wanted to say CE >>> H3 and 2. Reach isn't even in the running

[@cheporestrepo]

And halo infinite is not even a game

[@mrsickwick]

Gen z girl has brain dead take on the Halo trilogy.

[@sidwhipplestick]

Cap

[@angelcarnahan6960]

clearly pushing an agenda. The ONLY sexualized character is Cortana when Sarah Palmer and Tanaka in armor looks more sexualized than Halsey and Miranda. The vast majority will agree H2 is a better game with H3 being not far behind so clearly not understanding the community. Also, no one cares about H5 because of the false advertisement and its basically H2 (but they dont know who the mc is and what the end goal is). Might I also remind you that when palmer and S4s see chief, they don't seem impressed, then at the end when he's going to get his armor taken off, all the S4s look up to him like a god amongst men and falter in his presence. They don't try to help him and instead look at him in aww. Compare that to H3 ending, the humans who saw Elites like the Arbiter as monsters actually tried to make sure he's ok after John's absence. Yea, H4 is clearly more mature story... Also, question. What's up with the declining players of Halo Infinite?

[@1niyon]

lol, ok. given the title of this video, you are pointing out the criticisms. And almost everything you said with respect to the issues is present in those games and is indeed a detracting issue. But unbearable? uninvesting? cmon. Since you shall not provide the positive criticism i want to point out a few things. Recently i introduced my fiance to halo. And yknow what, some things you said are right, shes said them too. The flood, yes, arent fun to fight. The narrative jarring in halo 2 absolutely. But she loved the combat, especially with the elites and hunters in almost every halo. And the rock music... i do NOT believe you just called it lame lol. and maybe to youngsters like you or my fiance, it aint much but that was my childhood jam. but i get it, different tastes of music. I just want to say your criticism is very nit picky and i feel offended. but you delivered on your title. So yknow, i say good job, but man this made me mad. Halo is far from perfect. But it was and is great. And i dont hate on 343 halos. I enjoyed halo 4 campaign. i really like infinite. but oh man, if you wanna be criticizing like you have been with bungie here... i have soooo much to say. Vocal minority? Hello... halo has been popular since 2001. im sure there is a large chunk of halo players that love 343 games more. thats fine. to you your opinion and to myself my own. I just feel like you arent seeing across the aisle like i do. it aggrevates me. been playing halo since 2002. yknow ... i miss dual weidling. I miss playable elites. I miss superjumping, warthog fights, assasinations, beam rifle jackles, the various artstyles bungie had. falcon and hornet. arbiter in campaign. and good customization that was unlockable by achievements, splitscreen... And yknow good on 343 for innovating. but oh god... there is not much i want to be brought back from those games. Advanced movement was a nice touch. playable broadsword mission imo was fun. the polish on multiplayer in 5 and infinite were great. And the story telling in 4 and infinite also were nice. flyable pelican. i suppose the mantis was also nice. shock weapons in infinite are amazing. in any case. i think you get my point. i see good in all. my least favorite campaign is halo 5 and least favorite multiplayer is halo 4. least favorite firefight was halo 4. least favorite artstyle was halo 4. favorite multiplayer is infinite. Favorite campaign halo infinite. favorite firefight halo reach. favorite artstyle infinite. favorite forge infinite. infinite really out did itself in many areas, but it too isnt perfect. and yknow maybe my favorite picks are not that mainstream, but im sure everyone shares my opinion on least favorites. i love infinite. the same cannot be said about 4 and 5. halo 4 and 5 had more going for emotional narrative that the original trilogy, and thats about it. if there is something in particular i have to nit pick about infinite, its the random monologues of the villains, healthbars for boss fights, customization method of earning and limitations, and lack of coop and split screen, phasing through players. other than that i have much praise for it. and so does my fiancé.

[@freshysaml]

L take, you probably liked The Last Jedi

[@paytonadcock2788]

Well congrats on finishing the master chief collection bud. Trashing Halo 2 is crazy work The arbiter chief dynamic is the stuff of legends. Sgt Johnson overrated 🤣 get a grip. Voice acting and sound track were peak gaming.

[@angelcarnahan6960]

Seriously, The Chief and Arbiter bromance was at it's peak and nothing is better than it outside of Goku and Vegita.

[@adroharv5140]

Halo CE the Halo game I'm always playing

[@Mostima115]

You know, as someone who plays Infinite nearly every day and doesn't hate it and who at least tried to like Halo 4 back then, while also still being an active CE multiplayer player over 20 years with thousands of hours in it, since the player base of that game never died. I can tell you that you have no idea how CE's multiplayer and sandbox works, but since it's pointless to try to change someone else's opinion on the web - I got a question for you instead: If 343's Halo's are so much better than CE/2/3 like you and the comedy section (that you called "interviews") in the video say, then where is the player base of the so-called better games? Halo 4's player base was a joke after the first 3-4 months, Halo 5 never got even close those numbers from Halo 4's first few months and Infinite - now 3 years old, the player base is usually between 800-1500 on a regular day, going up to 2000-3500 during main times currently, those are the steam numbers and everyone can feel those numbers when you're using the match making Do know how many active players Halo 3 had when it was 3 years old? Over 1 million, if that is a bad comparison for you, then let's compare to CE PC only, a game that was called "a missed opportunity" and a niche game, since it came out two years after the Xbox version, wonder how many active players that one had after 3 years? Over 100 thousand.

[@stateyournameplease]

This gotta be staire, right??

[@vladikgajat9280]

This is definitely stairs.

[@aNoiseExit]

@@vladikgajat9280 like the ones you walk on?

[@SockEater4293]

What is this rage bait 😭

[@Redman8086]

Lol nice joke video!

[@odisy64]

it seems like you didnt play halo on the Xbox when it was considered new, all these complaints sound like something from a modern master chief collection player.

[@Sahlan_Ahamed]

Trust me, I came into Halo way waay later and I love the Bungie games, especially Halo 2. Don't worry, not everyone feels the same way.

[@followupcloniboies4490]

​​​@@Sahlan_AhamedI never even played the games! Yet I still understand why people love the Bungie games compared to 343i games. 343i took what was unique and liked and threw it away. To give 343i credit, I do enjoy some things they have made (Halo Wars 2). Also, the allegations about 343i do them no favors lol. OJ Cheese is either a fool or a troll. I'm leaning more towards a troll given their past videos and their Discord sever.

[@ChuggyMusic]

share some cope with the rest of us

[@9Reports]

Bungie doesn't run out of ideas, they run out of time. I agreed with some of the points until you started praising 343. I just finished infinite and i thought the game was great except the part where they use the time travel gimmick. I also don't like how they are forcing chief and cortana to have some sort of relationship. Chief is a soldier and he should not catch feelings for a fucking tool but hey, not gonna lie i teared up at the end of infinite.

[@poisonisdacure]

all facts

[@jackofalltraits2145]

As someone who only recently got into Halo (I started playing the games 3 years ago) I love aspects of both Bungie and 343's Halo. I am slightly more biased towards Bungie's Halo but that's mainly because I enjoy the gameplay and story of those games more and because I watch a lot of video's dedicated to Bungie Halo. I don't hate 343 and the innovations they made. I don't agree with them all the time, but I didn't always agree with Bungie. I feel Halo CE needed stronger Flood gameplay and better established main characters and personalities. I feel Halo 2 needed a more polished combat loop, visual presentation, more characterization for Miranda and Chief, and definitely needed at least one more level to lead into Halo 3. I feel Halo 3, I just needed more levels on the Ark, more interactions with the swords of sanghelios, better setup and payoff for Miranda and Johnson's death, had the Arbiter be a playable protagonist instead of a side character, the cut Gravemind boss fight, a more concrete Humans are Forerunners reveal, and a tightened weapon sandbox. It stands to reason how much Iove Halo as a new comer that I can look past these issues. In the end, love what you love and don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. Because as much as I love the Flood reveal of Halo 1, giving the Covenant back their bomb in Halo 2, and finishing the fight in Halo 3, I also love the emotional ending to Halo 4, the Sangheli rebellion in Halo 5, and everything with Chief and the Weapon in Halo Infinite. You can love previous art while still allowing it to evolve in new and interesting ways.

[@Xeem7]

12:35 In Bungie's story, Forerunners were supposed to be the ancestors to humans. 343 changed that.

[@spartanjohn-1176]

No cares

[@Dryym]

Not ancestors. They were supposed to be humanity's *creators* .

[@juanote8943]

@@Dryym "A record of all OUR lost time. Human history is it? Fascinating"

[@JohnnyTightlips2007]

@@spartanjohn-1176 You'd be surprised how wrong you are on that.

[@Dryym]

@@juanote8943 For Halo CE, Yes. But that was when Halo was still more of a Marathon spinoff. In Halo 2 and definitely Halo 3, The narrative changed to the Forerunners being our creators. "You are the child of my makers, Inheritor of all they left behind. You are Forerunner. But this ring is mine." Spark distinguishes us from his makers. He calls us Forerunner as a title rather than saying we are *a* Forerunner. Likewise, Covenant luminaries, Devices which detect Forerunner creations, Register *us* as Forerunner creations. Also. The real world is canon in Halo's timeline. Saying that the Forerunners were literal ancient humans is inconsistent with what we know about human evolution. What happened is that the Forerunners created humanity in their image to be their successors. Halo is a biblical allegory. And in that allegory, The Forerunners are God.

[@Freelancer837]

I thought based on the title that this'd be an interesting retrospective of the seires of sorts. Instead I get really uninteresting rage bait. Someone was really hoping they could find some cheap way to make it past 200 subscribers

[@ChrisPTenders]

Average 343 hire. I dunno which is sadder, that this actually made some people upset, or that some people out there might actually feel validated by this. I feel so bad for actual 343 fans watching this.

[@dylandurance4340]

You still have a chance to Delete this.

[@musictorin]

Why do the most dogshit halo opinions come from someone using a spartan PFP

[@dr.koupop880]

No one is saying it was, just that it's better than anything 343 has put out. I don't like CE much out of the trilogy, but it's better than 343's best game imo

[@spartanjohn-1176]

"better than 343 Best Game" 😀😂😂 dumb

[@angelcarnahan6960]

@@spartanjohn-1176 at least H2 and H3 died when it's live service was pulled. By the looks of infinite and H5... well i'm sure you can see it yourself.

[@spartanjohn-1176]

@@angelcarnahan6960 Halo 5 is only surpassed by Halo 3 in years of play, 7 years 😂

[@angelcarnahan6960]

@@spartanjohn-1176 then why is it so hard to find a match outside of war zone?

[@spartanjohn-1176]

@@angelcarnahan6960 do you know how to count? 2015+7 is 2022, apart from Halo 5 it is only on console, in a time where Xbox is practically dead and with Halo on PC, along with infinite

[@greensoupd]

what is this

[@zap2747]

Bandwagon bullshit

[@JohnnyTightlips2007]

Too late for April Fools there but ok.

[@Cato_Davila]

did we play the same game? :/

[@cooldude2046]

Facts? All I heard was “I, me, and my”…. I like your opinions though. In my opinion bungie made halo fun instead of sweaty. Gameplay was fun, didn’t have to rely on skill. However it gave you the choice for skill based games (ranked). I rather have fun in games instead of stressing over skill, but that’s just me 🤷‍♂️. Halo 1-3 was evolutionary it brought more social features than halo 4-6. Halo 3 is praised because it was released as a full package. But I’m very excited what halo studios will do moving forward

[@jared30]

Either born in 2020 or excellent satire lol cant tell.

[@Nacalal]

This is some high effort bait.

[@T3rr4T3rr0r]

W bait

[@seangutermuth7515]

You're clearly very young lmao. When Halo released it was revolutionary and changed the FPS genre forever. You're playing this game with the tainted vision of a child who was probably an infant when it released. You can't properly analyze Halo CE unless you were gaming when it released.

[@Xeem7]

Agreed. Halo IS the reason that console games have FPS titles now!

[@juanote8943]

Disagree on the sentiment of being too young. Not because this video is right, it's dogshit ngl. Limiting itself to "it's le dated" to soothe 343tards. I disagree cause I played Deus Ex 20 years after it's original release and still had a blast with it. Good games are timeless, you just gotta adapt to their visual presentation.

[@juiceee9886]

RIP 343i 😂

[@enriquenavarro7684]

Me If i started playing Halo on Halo 5 and i have 2 dads (im wrong on everything)

[@KhoRn3.]

Mdr, cette vidéo c'est la définition de "notice me senpai".

[@Ikkey]

Interesting take. Keep it up!

[@zacht9447]

what the fuck is up with the feet timer in the bottom right?

[@TheBIG_FK]

Wrong about literally everything

[@fortheweather1009]

Nice troll

[@Phantasmlovecraft]

Cool video, L take. 🤷‍♀️ 👍

[@thisprofile]

nice ragebait

[@ratoz8127]

such a based video

[@slayer-ih8dl]

What about reach ?

[@angelcarnahan6960]

Reach was hot. That was the peek, the pinnicle. And you never make a prequel story unless the story is over or about to go way downhill.

[@slayer-ih8dl]

@@angelcarnahan6960 your kidding right

[@TyrannoWright]

@@angelcarnahan6960 But it's a Bungie game. That's illegal that you're not slamming and nitpicking it.

[@angelcarnahan6960]

@@slayer-ih8dl nope.

[@angelcarnahan6960]

@@TyrannoWright funny considering I didn't see anything about reach in the video. Hypocrites apparently.

[@Magoolu]

Straight FACTSS AF! 💯💯

[@thenormie]

Crazy rage bait

[@cheporestrepo]

, another 343 R1der defending halo infinite, your little toystory esque looking mediocre game with 9 years of continuous mediocre developement is so garbage 20M people tried the game and left inmediately. Go and enjoy your 10 usd for blue color and the worst store ever made in a fps game. Enjoy your 10 years of desynced halo infinite! With less updates in 3 years than helldivers 2 has ever gotten😭💀💀

[@jackmcmorrow9397]

look I love Halo as much as the next guy, but once you start playing other retro fps games, you start to see how much of Halo's gameplay identity is steeped in concessions made due to the limitations of being on a gamepad back before console shooters were actually good. Like why tf does the 2 weapon limit still exist?

[@blaykay-4797]

Because a 3rd weapon is hardly needed?

[@jackmcmorrow9397]

@@blaykay-4797 thats a lie, considering everything in the games always play second fiddle to the headshot weapons. You dont NEED super versatile good at every guns like the Magnum or the BR or the DMR when you have access to more than 2 types of weapons at once. They exist to cover the limitations of the 2 weapon system, and they make high difficulty gameplay a snore because of how much gameplay is built around them.

[@1s1up]

You guys really act like precision weapons are everything in halo. Each of halos guns have its advantages and disadvantages. Weapons like the dmr or pistol for example are jack of all trades weapons but they can't match something like an assault rifle when it comes to DPS. shotguns are good for close range but are worthless and long range. The basic combat loop of halo is literally tailored around the two weapon limit. It forces you to choose based on the scenario

[@jackmcmorrow9397]

@1s1up that's MIGHT be the case if the AR' dps was meaningfully superior to the precision weapons. But in most bungie games the automatics are barely any quicker killing, if at all, than their headshot counterparts, and because they have no headshot bonus and far worse range and handling, they get thrown to the wayside and become worthless. In a game with only 2 weapon slots, there is no reason for you to ever pick the gun that doesn't cover every base to make up for your other more specialized weapon. Halo is a one weapon slot affair.

[@ethanfraser4521]

HERESY

[@jph7472]

True!!!

[@The-python-guy]

grow up

[@jph7472]

@@The-python-guy 😂