Gaming While Colorblind

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[@VahnCruz]

I have a good friend that always thought his cat was green. I broke it to him that Whiskers was in fact orange and that cats do not come in green. It blew his mind.

[@allgodsnomasters2822]

thats the funniest blursed shit I've read all yesr

[@Gixwing]

I found that out when I called a Dog green while on the street with my mom as a kid (they still look green to me)

[@FOGSHIE]

The idea of dogs being green is nutty.

[@SebastianHaban]

Real Life definitely also needs this color changing options! Green garfield and catdog here we go...

[@opticalmoose8091]

Does he think ginger people have natural green hair?

[@AsfaeksBR]

"this charging light, is it red or is it green? I don't know!" It's orange, George.

[@justderp5713]

AsfaeksBR Damn, rip in rip

[@ianboswell]

"This looks about as green to you guys as it does to me" while the picture and Mars is bright yellow damn near killed me.

[@FutBoy281]

I feel like this is a personal attack

[@Hugobros3]

When I was 10 or something, I saw my older cousin playing on his GBA SP and the battery light was red. Blew my mind when he told me he couldn't tell

[@xnamkcor]

Don't listen to this person, it's Amber

[@sj4iy]

Even for people without disabilities, subtitles on in video games are really helpful when you are distracted by something happening on screen or in the background so that you aren't missing any story development.

[@JonVonBasslake]

Or in general if the voices aren't that clear. Or not in your native language. I mostly leave or put subs on in games, since in them the dialogue mixing can be hit or miss. Though for movies and tv shows that are in English i can mostly get by without subs. My native tongue is Finnish but given the level of our education and me being around English media (mostly games) since i was a kid, and there being very few games in Finnish on the PS1 i have a pretty good level of fluency with the language. Summa summarum, subtitles are nice to have, especially in games.

[@EnraiChannel]

Sometimes the audio mixing is just awful anyway, so subtitles never hurt. This is more prominent in movies, yet there it is always harder to find non-fansubs for your own language if you aren't native English speaker. Games at least have subtitles 90% of the time. I mean, at least English subtitles is a must.

[@LOUDcarBOMB]

For me, having subtitles helps with words on how they're spelled and pronounced. An example would be like using the word segue (to transition) since it pronounced as seg-way, not say-ge, and many people think its spelled segway like the machine. It helps teach me new words and how to pronounce it as well.

[@ApenBaard]

ive actually started to turn off subtitles a couple years back to force me to pay better attention to what characters are saying. I somehow dont register what characters are saying when im reading what theyre saying nearly as well. And no im not a native english speaker.

[@DarkSpyro707]

subtitles are great for fantasy and sci-fi genres where they use a lot of made-up words and names but you dont know how they're spelled, so you see it on screen and know how its spelled now.

[@AnotherBinjin]

I have Yellow/Blue blindness and I have shown my friends what Tritanopia looks like in other games (WoW and FFXIV mostly). One of the best quotes i got out of them from it was "What kind of purple hellscape do you live in?"

[@BEEFBEEFBEEFIFY]

what kind of purple hellscape DO you live in?

[@KuraIthys]

I don't know if I'd call that purple, given the examples I've seen simulating what that looks like... But I could think of worse things. XD Though, I love purple, so... That's probably unfair. Then again, if all I could see was shades of purple I might not like it that much anymore I guess...

[@Jagerbomber]

"We're a happy family."

[@JLCL01]

That purple hellscape sounds pretty asthetic to me B)

[@unvergebeneid]

I'm guessing you were showing them pictures how landscapes or green plants look like to you? Because when you're not used to seeing plants that way, it looks like an alien planet.

[@hashvendetta7226]

The goddamn eyes go red? One of my only complaints about that game was that you couldn't tell if they were hostile. I should have known

[@Sethar1234]

Hash Vendetta I had the exact same experience

[@ActionGamerAaron]

Their eyes going red is dumb anyways. It makes sense that you wouldn't know which is hostile. You should be able to learn to not trust any Working Joe.

[@checkmate058]

Ive allways campaigned for posture changes in stealth games. I unalert guard should lean back when walking while a suspicious guard should hunch forward and a agro gaurd should hold their gun up.

[@julian0451]

@@checkmate058 Check Thief Gold and Thief The Metal Age, they have very obvious guard stances for calmness, caution, and alertness. They also happen to be THE best stealth games to have ever existed, bar none.

[@marreco6347]

@@checkmate058 mgs big dumb exclamation and question marks are also... pretty good.

[@FluffyHeretic]

George: this planet is green comments: lol no it's yellow! me, who agreed that it was definitely green: *sweating*

[@FutBoy281]

Welcome to the Family

[@duke86fan]

its green but barely.... its definitely more yellow with the wind and stuff, but the ground does have some dark green

[@sagewaterdragon]

I'm pretty sure that I'm some kind of colorblind, and I guess that confirmed it. I could distinctly tell the differences between colors in the rest of the video, though, so maybe it's a monitor color calibration thing?

[@tsartomato]

i wanted green but it gave me lemon lime

[@JonVonBasslake]

@@tsartomato The machine would not make a mistake.

[@BK-xg3mw]

A kid in middle school that I knew was red and green colorblind. She said the worst part about it was that she couldn't tell the difference between Mario and Luigi.

[@dooplon5083]

guessing that she played Mario 1 and 3 then? cuz iirc every other Mario game makes them visually distinct, I mean they literally have letters on their hats in the new one lol

[@kevinrosario2729]

Luigi is taller and leaner than Mario but I guess she played the NES games.

[@JuanPerez-bd6oz]

Don't worry, most people can't do the Puyo Puyo part in Puyo Puyo Tetris either.

[@ActionGamerAaron]

I am decent at Puyo, but the game is very much unbalanced in favor of Tetris boards not being as devastating when attacked. Most people don't try to get good at Puyo is the problem and sadly that game just gives them another reason not to try.

[@thesodaslugger]

Huh. I can’t do the tetris part but im good at puyo. Is that strange?

[@SianaGearz]

Most people also can't see enemies in Unreal Tournament 3 against a wall, regardless of whether they have a godlike hue perception. It's just an overall horrible game in every aspect, and that following up the remarkably good UT2004.

[@ActionGamerAaron]

@@SianaGearz If you're talking about UT2003, that's actually the second game in the series. More importantly, why did you suddenly bring up UT...??? It's irrelevant to this discussion! We're talking about Tetris and Puyo Puyo!

[@SianaGearz]

@@ActionGamerAaron First off, it's not irrelevant, it was mentioned IN THIS VERY VIDEO as an accessibility issue, right alongside Puyo Tetris, just a couple sentences apart, with footage shown. Second off, i mean UT3. It's a 2007 game. It was SHIT. And it was not the second or third game. The timeline goes that, original UT (also at various patchlevels known as UT99 or UT Gold), then UT2003 then UT2004 which was basically same thing but fine tuned and expanded with a few modes and is the best thing ever, and then UT3. All prior games are recognisably UT games, you can't be in two minds about them, and UT2004 reaches a remarkable detail level actually, it's quite an accomplishment really, so the argument that all the graphical detail made games hard to read in the video... well i disagree with it on these grounds. UT3 is a slow-walking grey-brown mud simulator. Oooh we have so fancy Enlighten lighting now, well you can't bloody see shit. I was SO BLOODY DISAPPOINTED. If you want a little taste test, try the Unreal Development Kit, a free SDK based on Unreal Engine 3 (first engine Epic released for hobby developers, well before UE4), it's got a part of the game in it.

[@rkcraig348]

I wish they'd put into text the colors I'm choosing for my character's hair and eyes because for all I know, I'm giving my characters green hair and red eyes. lol.

[@Sethar1234]

rkcraig348 THIS ^^^^

[@AuroraAce.]

@@myhvKun yes

[@DarkSpyro707]

@@myhvKun it does when you're playing an mmo and you're walking out into the starting area looking like the joker.

[@B.D.E.]

All coloured items (where the colour matters to gameplay i.e. green or yellow potion) in all games should show the colour in text.

[@B.D.E.]

@@myhvKun In games where colours can affect gameplay mechanics, definitely yes.

[@roronoapedro]

"You know, this reminds me of how I love to go on the treadmill, play tetris and listen to an audiobook." George, how do you not fall down.

[@GlowingOrangeOoze]

I think I'd tune out the audiobook under these conditions, but your priorities are your business.

[@ElkiLG]

I do all of that while juggling and speaking to my wife, easy!

[@lordofgangstas]

As someone mildly red-green colorblind, a little known fact is that colorblindness boosts all your other abilities, including coordination - I can do backflips on the spot and have on a few occasions stopped cars with my bare hands

[@marreco6347]

@@lordofgangstas so you're like daredevil, but you would punch Spiderman thinking it was Venom.

[@roronoapedro]

@@lordofgangstas It makes sense, your body has compensated with the lack of color by giving you 15 penises. It's just science.

[@nuuskapeke2104]

We got 2 seconds of Touhou gameplay from George, this is merely the beginning

[@santi3574]

And also like 2 seconds of DoDonPachi in a GMTK video. Shmups will rise again~

[@0ctopusComp1etely]

SOON. SOON...

[@andrewmarshall3408]

My dad had green blindness This is the first time I've wondered if he intentionally didn't support our city's football team because their jerseys had red & yellow on them and instead chose the next town over (who played in blue & white) He'd also describe traffic signals as "stop brown and go brown"

[@bakomusha]

Traffic Lights to me are "Go blue, Slow green, Red Stop."

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

That mixed green/blue in the "go" light really does a thing. for people with red/green it's blueish, and for people with blue/yellow it's greenish (I noticed the middle light is also not a pure yellow but more of bit orange, so red/yellow mixed)

[@TheCraftOMine]

For me there's a white light, an orange light, and a darker orange light.

[@andrewmarshall3408]

@@TheCraftOMine I didn't know reindeer had to abide by traffic signals?

[@callmetony4399]

the first time I saw a color blind mode was in peggle and I was amazed that a small studio put the thought and effort to make there game more accessible. Then peggle 2, backed by EA, came out without one on launch and had to patches it in

[@maggs734]

Peggle is low key a masterpiece, I seem to remember the mobile version being great, too. I didn’t even know there is a colorblind mode (I’m red/green), guess I gotta play through it again now.

[@mhaib]

@@ataready8810 That whole video is about Zuma having a stolen idea, not Peggle

[@MrMallardg1]

I can’t express how it feels to finally hear someone else say that they have troubles with certain blues and purples (like the Puyo Puyo example). Growing up, I would always call one color the other, and then someone else would, often in a condescending manner, correct me as if I didn’t know how colors worked. And it always made me apprehensive to say what colors I see. Playing games with deuteranopia hasn’t been too bad for me; most red/green situations I’ve been able to deal with. But it’s the other times, like you mentioned some greens with oranges or blues with purples that have forced me to slow down on some decision making. And there are very few color blind options that I actually like. My favorite being Borderlands 2 where they not only alter the color of the loot to more readable hues, but also display what color the loot is. Anyways, thank you for bringing this topic to light!

[@Jagerbomber]

I failed a 3rd and 6th grade project because I can't smell and my teachers didn't believe me. And... good luck with me if the house burns down or explodes, I guess.

[@BlkDragonian]

now I want to know what project required you to be able to smell

[@BartvG88]

My brother in law who has anosmia had a very old golden retriever, who started shitting in the house, and he had no warning... splat!

[@DerOrk]

Does that translate into a lack of taste aswell?

[@BartvG88]

@@DerOrk Well, not really, your receptors in your mouth still work. However, the smell can be part of the taste. It's like an extra input steam is cut off, as I understood from my brother in law

[@bismuthcrystal9658]

@@DerOrk As someone who had anosmia temporarily, as a side effect of a needed medication, partway through their life: the factoid that "smell is 90% of taste" is wrong. Maybe 50%. But it varies with the dish. You can still taste, but it's more muted. I found myself going for sour and spicy food and drink way more, as I wasn't getting the same satisfaction from other foods. But I could still taste them. I'd say, if you're *really* curious, maybe the best way to simulate it is: stop drinking high fructose corn syrup drinks if you're unfortunate enough to be somewhere with that disgusting cow fattener. Wait three days, or a week, or as much longer as you care to. Ideally forever. But anyway! Before you next drink one, eat some dark chocolate, ideally, or something else sweet and rich if you're allergic to chocolate. Pancakes (though in the US, somehow it's okay to sell what's almost entirely corn syrup as "maple syrup" which just boggles the mind in its false advertising - so make sure you're not getting corn syrup there, too). Drink a soda with high fructose corn syrup. Eat that sweet, rich thing again. It'll probably taste pretty bland, in comparison. You can still taste the sweetness, but it's... off. It's lacking. Unsatisfying. That's a lot what it's like.

[@marreco6347]

I think that a lot of developers forget a very important thing about 3d games: they're not actually 3d, they're flat representation of it. You have to develop with this in mind, you have to improve the illusion of 3D rather than thinking that just because the game is 3D that will fix it. Its pretty impossible for a person to blend in to the background in real life, but that can certainly happen in a game if there's not a lot of color and lighting contrast between construction and people. This is why military simulators are usually a nightmare, especially in early 3d technology.

[@janathonching1290]

6:54 - 7:11 . It's not just the art. The color design makes the gun blend in with the environment.

[@Rezuaq]

yeah, that game isn't visually clear for people with full colour vision either... the era of cream/brown/black game palettes was not kind to anyone eyes

[@colleennewholy9026]

Makes the tanks blend in with the background. Lol

[@elizabethagudelo7179]

5:28 WAIT YOU MEAN THE REASON I CAN NEVER TELL WHEN PEOPLE ARE FEELING SICK IS BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE THE BLOOD LEAVING THEIR FACE? WHAT?

[@Qbot10]

That doesn't usually happen, that person must have been REALLY unwell.

[@anonymous5401]

like, Qbot said, usually doesn't happen unless the person is extremly unwell/sick. But when it happens its usually the first sign to get someone help. Also if someones eyes go yellow/orange at all (i apologize if you are unable to see white/yellow/orange) then that usually means that they need emergency medical care.

[@amandaschuller4546]

So glad that you and Game Maker's Toolkit are covering how a small, inexpensive change can make a game so much more accessible. There are a lot of little things a game dev can do to let more people play. It's win-win: more players means more people have fun, and the devs make more money.

[@GMTK]

Happy to fight the good fight!

[@TheAgamemnon911]

Everyone who sees that doom-planet also as green: I have bad news for you.

[@skepticmoderate5790]

? It's definitely green. Fairly certain I'm not color blind. EDIT: Completely certain I have normal color vision. Just took quite a few tests and scored 100 on all of them.

[@TornadoCreator]

@@skepticmoderate5790 sorry dude... you're colour blind. Mildly so, as you can see difference in hue on the tests enough to pass them, but you're still colour blind. There is no green on that planet. It's yellow.

[@TailsClock]

@@TornadoCreator After a successful test, It sounds like it would be more likely that his monitor is just set up to display colors wrong.

[@RupeeRhod]

This is the blue+black / white+gold dress all over again. Green? Yellow? It's two sides of the same coin, it depends on how we interpret the colour from context. If I put this into photoshop I know I'd colour pick the palette as shades of yellow, but I also know if my egg yolk was this colour I'd throw it out rather than eat it. The reason for it is that we rarely have desaturated darkened yellow presented as it's a very unnatural and unappealing colour. So you're arguing whether somebody is colour blind simply because of interpretation and linguistics more than anything else. This often happens with yellow where many will argue orange shades are yellow too. Lastly many monitors get colour spaces wrong, I own several and I spend a lot of time on trying to get the colours right for work related reasons. I bought an expensive monitor once where yellows would just not render right, there was so much focus on improving colours that yellows became greenish tinted, because usually green is the spectrum where we need most detail as it's the primary colour in nature and thus we genetically see shades of green better than we do for something like red.

[@soapbar9175]

doesn't look green to me, but I also don't see yellow like other people. Kind of looks like a dulled Sepia to me? idk.

[@jjc5475]

i had a friend who pushed the emergency button to stop heavy machinery. turns out he couldn't see the red off VS green on button. scary...

[@BlueDavrial]

Stuff like this is why many jobs involving heavy machinery have colorblindness as a hard no-hire

[@sercio6428]

@@BlueDavrial Shouldn't there be measures that deal with the disadvantage of color blindness in those fields, due to the American's with disabilities act. Also shouldn't the American's with disabilities act prevent hiring discrimination based on their disability.

[@skepticmoderate5790]

@@BlueDavrial Isn't that like, very illegal? I thought employers were required to make reasonable accomodations.

[@Deathnotefan97]

skeptic moderate yes, they have to make _reasonable_ accommodations The problem is that the definition of "reasonable" is not always properly defined

[@TheAechBomb]

we have them labeled as "EMERGENCY STOP" and a smaller light-up green button as the power-on for that very reason. they're totally different in more than just color.

[@Stevethepirateyarr]

I really appreciate this video!!! I am a monochromat and I can’t tell you how hard a lot of games are.

[@SebastianHaban]

So your life is basically a french noir movie that got "best picture" at Sundance film festival... nice

[@HSnake5]

Holy shit youre a doggo

[@janathonching1290]

Did you have problems distinguishing that bioshock 2 hacking minigame? I'm curious how bad it is for monochromats.

[@tomhill3248]

Might i recommend a game called "Mount and blade, warband". You can't hit your allies so color is, less important. Just put al your guys in the same outfit it'll be fine.

[@igorthelight]

That is very rare!

[@parkerbailey4435]

I hate it when people ask me constantly what color is this over and over again

[@thegreendragon9628]

I feel the pain

[@joshuaickles376]

Same. I hate it when I get the color right and they say I’m “lying” or “you’re not really color blind.”

[@Comboowo]

Im not even colorblind, yet I can feel your pain.

[@londongrace5784]

Wanna play uno to make you feel better?

[@Evilanious]

Gaming While Colorblind: sponsored by listening to things instead of seeing them.

[@fhqwhg4ds]

colourblind man here, thankful for the love. never knew you were colourblind too!!

[@GinHindew110]

With that final line i realized the potential, children could know they have visual and auditive problems way faster as parents can take years to notice and the children are not even aware of their limited senses

[@NathanCassidy721]

I remember talking to the developers of Sundered and Jotun when they were showcasing their new game SpiritFarer at PAX West. I asked them about a colorblind mode even though I don’t need it and they said they were making one. I was also the first one ask them about it.

[@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

Thanks for bringing that up. We gotta look out for our fellow gamers. :)

[@NathanCassidy721]

@@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her I think it's the fact that they had already thought about it prior to my asking that shows there's a nice bit of change in the industry.

[@ZaCloud-Animations___she-her]

@@NathanCassidy721 , Yup! I'm glad the awareness is spreading and more needs are being met, despite all the naysayers out there.

[@Narokkurai]

George-vision looks like you put a mild autumn filter on everything. You've got a real pretty world Mr Weidman.

[@bakomusha]

I've got the same kind of colorblindness, and after putting on some color correcting lenses i can tell you that's not true at all! Those glasses made everything sharp and colors pop, making me realize I see the world in a muddy haze!

[@Reydriel]

@@bakomusha I didn't know colour-correcting lenses were even a thing! Nice!

[@bakomusha]

@@Reydriel yep, they are expensive as hell tho, currently don't work with prescriptions, and don't work for everyone... yet.

[@Reydriel]

@@bakomusha I read up about how they work, it seems they only work with the milder forms of colour-blindness. The lenses essentially just filter out troublesome frequencies of light, those that the sensors in the eyes react to abnormally and confuse the brain. Naturally, it won't work if those sensors themselves are damaged or extremely abnormal.

[@TheSimmr001]

@@Reydriel oh yeah colout correction glasses are a thing. i've been wearing Sunglasses inside my work due to eye strain with the lights, and everyone keeps asking for my opinion on their colour correcting properties.

[@Kris.G]

It's stunning that today we are still having to ask developers to think about over 10% of the entire male population.

[@colleennewholy9026]

And the 1% of female players. Lmao. I'm colorblind, and tho I love World of Tanks... I die. Too much. Cause colors

[@Thornskade]

That's because it's not really the case. It's probably far less than 10%. The number is inflated, if technically true. I'm red-green color blind, too, yet I have never had any problems discerning colors or shades of colors in video games. The 10% includes all forms of red-green color blindness, no matter how slight it is. And mine is most definitely very minor. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness

[@beanstheclown]

@@Thornskade Similarly, I am blue/purple color deficient. I can definitely tell the difference between the poyo blobs but the closer shades of blue/purple get too each other the harder time I have of seeing it. Mostly manifests in making it hard to see stains on certain fabrics/clothes.

[@bennolee348]

9:20 To be fair accomodations for real disabilities (yes even colorblindness) shouldn't need to be profitable to be justified.

[@Calintares]

It shouldn't, but that's capitalism for you. it doesn't care about anything if it isn't profitable.

[@Skullbrothers]

@@Calintares thats not capitalism, thats humankind pure and simple. No need for money

[@axayd]

Yes, but it's a lot easier to convenience studio execs/ publishers if its profitable as well.

[@KCdoesVOXMetalVocalist]

EA Executive: Why not both?

[@SirRichard94]

what kind of dream world do you live in? what? do you think we all deserve to have our basic needs covered you commie?

[@mesogot]

I still remember that Splatoon coming with a color blind option was somehow a big deal.

[@isaacargesmith8217]

To be fair color is kind of the entire deal of the game since the entire map becomes two colors and changing the color helps you win.

[@justinpark2417]

Adding those feature is completely optional, from business sense. Even the "was adding those feature = more sale?" question ended up as "we think so" even though it could have been that it just didn't bother people enough to turn them off. As someone who need those features (samish level of colour blindness as George I think), I'll continue to praise games that come with those option till end times. XD I think it's that other colour blind people thinks the same.

[@JohnPeterStone]

"Kids can find out what's wrong with themselves while finding what's wrong with their game." As an aspiring indie dev, this is oddly inspiring.

[@miecraftandmoregames]

i am also deutan. i will show this video to my friends it's so much more well explained here than i could do.

[@Crazelord91]

That's a great point. So many colorblind modes ruin the aesthetics of the game with overkill. Just adjust the things that directly effect gameplay, everything else let me see in my natural colorblindness

[@sludgeypop]

Made pawsibul by awwdibul

[@KitsGravity]

At least it's not *CuTtInG eDgE GaMeR*

[@marreco6347]

OwO

[@Comboowo]

UwU

[@thetherrannative]

Author and artist, here. I had a friend who was near-monochromatic colorblind (he could see some yellows, but that was about it) and playing board games with him was very interesting because we'd have to use a marker to write symbols on colored game pieces so he could tell them apart. It started shifting how I view color and how it should be used to accommodate people who can't see it, or see a different version than we non-colorblind people do. Now whenever I design things for use in my larger projects - city and country banners for the worlds I build, for instance - I try to keep colorblindness in mind so everything I create can be told apart by shape and brightness. And it's not even difficult to adjust those things. It takes less than a minute to shift each item so it's got the right contrast. It's sad a lot of game developers can't even take that time, and I hope that in the future more people will start keeping colorblindness in mind.

[@LadyBrightcynder]

This is really interesting, I'm glad the industry's making more of an effort to include accessibility options.

[@Densoro]

The thing I love about colorblind accessibility is - a more readable screen is _always_ a benefit to a visual medium. In terms of color readability, we are the worst case scenario so we’re the perfect test for your UI. Beyond colorblind _modes,_ they’d do well to design their _entire games_ with readability by default. Personally tho, I prefer navigating a game by its art, so I was really excited to see colorblind modes that change the models directly. I’ve gone my whole life wondering if people can pinpoint the color offset we experience and counteract it, and I’m amazed to see that they’re having some success. I mean sure, it turns my screen purple, but...

[@EnigmaticRPG]

JFC I can't stand the color yellow... The accessibility options look alright, but that otherwise piss filtered hellscape would drive me insane.

[@EnigmaticRPG]

...aaand as I'm typing that, "this looks green to you, too, right?"... GODS NO, it's that gross yellow again!

[@an2qzavok]

Hehe, I used to live in a sunny-side room with yellow wallpaper, wooden-yellowish furniture and yellow blinders. It was like doom's piss filter but in real life. Computer screen was the only thing that had any other color on.

[@EnigmaticRPG]

@@an2qzavok At that point I would go crazy with spray paint my dude. The fume-based brain damage would make for a comforting escape from all the yellow. Like, the pc is a nice fantasy window, but I'd like to look away from it without vomiting occasionally.

[@ordinarytree4678]

Weird. I knew a girl who also hated the colour yellow, but I love it an wouldnt mind playing Doom with that filter. Is it a memory-association thing? Does it remind you of bad young experience?

[@EnigmaticRPG]

@@ordinarytree4678 No specific experience I'm aware of. Maybe pets or baby brother? That slightly orange yellow reminds me of one thing only, drying urine, and peepee = icky lol. Even bright, happier shades of yellow are vaguely gross, but I can't explain that beyond association. Orange, somehow, totally fine!

[@MrTermanati]

I remember finding the colorblind mode in Modern Warfare 3 and thinking "Wait, the the friendly and enemy cursors are SUPPOSED to look different!?"

[@RAFMnBgaming]

I like having subtitles in games even when I don't need them, largely due to Portal 2. I can't remember if the CCs are on by default in that game, but watching the old Yogscast coop letsplay of it i was like "yeah, this gels with the game style a bunch" and then just kinda got used to having subtitles. Plus as i've been realising as i've gotten older, there are certain situations my brain just isn't good at recognising words in. I have no idea what people are saying in noisy bars where others seem to kinda hear enough, and I'm not very good at hearing the right lyrics when listening to songs for the first time. But in other situations I'm just fine. I think it's probably an autism thing.

[@ArgoIo]

No, I guess that's pretty normal.

[@CuulX]

@@ArgoIo yes it's a normal thing to some limited extent, but with autism it can be even more extreme. Fairly mild noise (like turning on the tap to wash my hands) that usually don't bother neurotypical people can completely turn off my brains word recognition even if I can hear the sound that makes up words fine. Autism comes with a mixed bag of sensory sensitivity and insensitivity that is different from person to person.

[@codythompson9973]

Several Fighters I sometimes wonder if I have some traits of Autism. I know for a fact I don't have it fully, but I keep seeing a lot of similar traits being described in people with Autism with how I am. I hope I am not falsely diagnosing myself either lol.

[@CuulX]

@@codythompson9973 aspergerstestsite dot com (aspergers was somewhat recently officially included in autism spectrum disorder as autism level 1) has a quick test for surveying how well the diagnosis describes you. To get an official diagnosis takes hours of interviews with a professional and has requirements like it being a disability to you in your daily life.

[@ArgoIo]

@@CuulX I'm aware of that. I was just pointing out, that their experience isn't that outlandish at all.

[@yodadude666]

There's a quote that I learnt from my uni course for working with people with disabilities: doing something positive for a small group of people benefits everyone in the long term.

[@TrustTheShooters]

12:10 Im not color blind, but I absolutely love BF3's color blind mode. Makes the look crisper and more modern.

[@SteveAkaDarktimes]

George:it looks green, Comments: it looks yellow me: it looks sepia.

[@colleennewholy9026]

Pale tan... I'm guessing it's tan XD

[@TornadoCreator]

Oh wow. If you're seeing sepia you're likely red-blue colour blind. It's a rarer colourblindness than red-green. But yeah, it's definitely yellow.

[@miecraftandmoregames]

i wish for every game to have the same colorblind options and tests from forntine.

[@MaaZeus]

Oh hell yeah. The Fortnites color blind settings are amazing and every game should copy it. Let us choose what type of color blindness we have and how bad is it because it is not an On/Off thing. I have deuteranopia, but a very mild one. For example I can easily see red berries in a green bush without problem. When I (rarely) play Fortnite I do have deuteranopia on with very mild setting, enough to help me see the colors better but without turning the world into an alien landscape. I still see reality, albeit in my own way, and if the color blind setting dramatically changes it (purple sky for example) then it screams wrong to me. Most games unfortunately get this wrong.

[@miecraftandmoregames]

@@MaaZeus wow i have exactly the same thing and wants like you haha

[@cuthalionxvi]

At my last job, I was a web developer who worked with the web designers on a regular basis. Their boss, who had been heavily involved in previous designs and had input into current ones, was red-green colorblind. And he did an excellent job!

[@Tkdmaster1991]

Great video here, as someone who is almost completely colorblind, I can relate to all of these issues and more!

[@NickyShadow99]

Gotta say, as someone who's working on a game with color playing a key point in gameplay, I appreciate hearing more from people with colorblindness to get an idea on how developers can help them when possible. TLDR: Good video!

[@Qaosbringer]

hey, did you try "colorblind glasses", and are they working as advertised? I am really curious about them.

[@musicbyhikari]

They do! I have them, love to wear them in the fall :)

[@nadesomewhatasandwic]

I tried them, but sadly they didn't work for me. Apparently I'm in the minority though

[@GugureSux]

I recall there being several types and "strengths" of those glasses. You pretty much gotta have your color-blindness type and severity pre-checked, and then order a tailor-made set of glasses for yourself.

[@ianhamilton_]

@@nadesomewhatasandwic you aren't

[@ianhamilton_]

The adverts are a huge scam. The "colourblind person sees colour for the first time" reaction videos are bullshit. They do not make people who see in black and white see colours that they have never seen before. They're pretty much sunglasses. You know how polarised sunglasses filter out certain frequencies of light? Same deal here. They darken everything apart from the hue that you can't see as well, making that hue relatively brighter. So all they can do is make a hue you can already see a bit brighter. They become more useful the less colourblind you are, and are dependent on lighting conditions etc too.

[@Primate541]

Touhou 16 is hard enough to discern bullets from all the other stuff on screen as is without the added difficulty of being colourblind.

[@lob5645]

It's not just colourblindness, the visibility in Touhou 16 is just bad compared to other touhou games.

[@GibusWearingMann]

"the following video is made paussible by audible" No youtube video has earned a like from me so fast.

[@Stuffgamer1]

I worked at GameStop around the time this issue was rising, and I had a colorblind coworker for a while who really helped me think about these things. He had that "not aware of missing visual information" problem with the enemy auras in Heavenly Sword. Was flabbergasted when I told him he was supposed to do certain things to counter blue and orange he didn't even perceive. I'm happy to see these features getting more robust, and I really love it when we get unexpected upshoots for the general playerbase as well. I'm not particularly hard of hearing, but I always prefer subtitles on for clarity's sake.

[@topsicles5268]

@ 11:25 George that's Yellow...

[@genesises]

That's the joke....................................

[@TornadoCreator]

@@genesises I don't think it is... a lot of people in the comments say they see green too. I think the colourblind genuinely see green here. (Makes sense as TVs mix red and green pixels to create the illusion of yellow).

[@3RAXFTW]

"Why is the sea purple?" "It's dark blue, come on!" How did you gain access to my childhood memories George? Give them back!

[@DefinitiveDubs]

Red/green colorblind squad, represent

[@noahhowell3674]

Hell yeah brudda

[@RsConqueror]

Sup comrades

[@ZiggityZachPresents]

MY PEOPLE!

[@FutBoy281]

where we dropping boys?

[@Gixwing]

Yo

[@thatjokerperson7062]

1:39 "My good sir, Those are all green" 2:21 "OOPS sorry good sir"

[@KuraIthys]

Worth noting, given how long I've been reading books on game development, that the fact that old shooters had Red team vs Blue team IS in and of itself an accessibility feature, since it's based off the observation that these are the most distinguishable colours for people with the most common type of colour blindness. Accessibility might not have gotten the attention back then that it does now, but that doesn't mean nobody was giving it any thought. I mean have you ever really thought about why it was nearly always Red vs blue, and not say Red vs green, or yellow vs magenta? It was a choice dictated above all else by consideration for colour blind players...

[@lobsterbark]

Red vs Blue has been the standard in the military and in board games for a long time before video games had color.

[@kaniini008]

@@lobsterbark The same 10% of men are colourblind in the military and while playing board games, that just moves the same observation a little bit further back.

[@6ch6ris6]

so happy developers are reacting to this problem. and yes in the end it can help anyone with or without colourblindness !

[@faust3530]

Thank god this video was made pawsible by awdible, otherwise i may have just told the cawnstable

[@Jagerbomber]

My uncle ended up with christmas tree lights that were half purple, which... I guess I'm surprised are even a thing?

[@Jazzadrin]

George, are you going to review Death Stranding? At the very least make a video about it? It’d be nice to hear your insights about it since you’re a fellow Metal Gear/Hideo super fan.

[@Countgreenhorn]

It’s going to be his next video after he’s finished the game

[@collinz126]

@MaxMax Is that true? Is he playing it right now? I hope he is!

[@Countgreenhorn]

Collin Z he said on the dad and sons podcast that was going to be his next video after the color blind video

[@4Wilko]

Is it going to be an hour long? I hope so.

[@Countgreenhorn]

4Wilko it’ll be the length of a ken burns documentary and will probably be done in the style of one too

[@philliph2581]

I was asked to re-do a UI for my operations department. The original UI used Christmas tree red/green that I couldn't tell apart to save my life, since I have pretty strong deuteranopia. I redid it with a blueish green and slightly purplish red that I could easily tell apart. It was hard to describe to management how such a small tweak would make the site better, until two of our operators also reported that they could see the "fault" indicator from the "okay" indicator for the first time too. This was a context where it really mattered. PS: I'm glad to see more and more traffic lights use this trick as well.

[@ianhamilton_]

yeah, people think that traffic lights in the UK have green lights but they actually do not

[@Groovebot3k]

I can't believe I sat on this for a month because I didn't think the topic would be that interesting... great video again, George.

[@Mngalahad]

"Color blindness is normal and should not be discriminated" "Only a few people see in black and white; theyre not important"

[@KuraIthys]

Yeah... XD Also left-handedness is more common than colourblindness, yet gets less consideration by game designers. (to be fair it's less of a direct handicap in most contexts - but it goes get really galling when you see explicit design changes happen to make games easier for right-handed players at the expense of left-handed players, who get... No consideration at all - here's looking at you, Legend of Zelda on the Wii) It's funny what gets used as justification for games (and hardware, if relevant) having accessibility features for certain groups but not others...

[@WodkaEclair]

Where did he say full colourblind is not important?

[@Eunostos]

1 in 10 vs 1 in... a thousand? But still a hypocrisy yes.

[@Mngalahad]

@mechaguess i was just joking, i have no problem with what he said in the video.

[@collinz126]

George, you make some of the best videos on KZbin. I hope you find great and continued inspiration on all of your upcoming projects.

[@justderp5713]

God, more of these. Please.

[@THNAidan]

The absolute best colourblind mode I've ever seen is in Final Fantasy 14, where you can pick your type and then adjust the strength of the filter to suit your needs, plus you can independently change the colour of different parts of the ui

[@poncut5074]

I can imagine how excited Scott The Woz would be to see this vid.

[@SergioSergio12345]

He's colorblind?

[@poncut5074]

He also mentions it in his New Super Mario Bros. games review.

[@dbrinkmann5771]

So that's probably one reason why I've never heard George talk about the Witness. That game had a mechanic that relied on colors and it made the game impossible to complete for colorblind people. Personally I can see the frustration that probably caused, but I also kind of understand why they went with the mechanic. They could have worked around it though like Guacamelee did. Granted, I don't know how well it works, but they added a pattern to their color coded splashes, which correspond with the Xbox face buttons, that moved into a specific direction depending on the color.

[@VargVikernes1488]

That's dumb. What if you are playing it with mouse and keyboard?

[@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug]

Those "colourblind modes" that seems like simulators, probably are debug tool that wasn't removed. They're for non colourblind developers to test that the newly added artwork still is accessible.

[@a.j.4076]

11:25 - It's yellow, George. Yellow.

[@spoonikle]

wow... kids are going to find out their color blind by playing fortnite...

[@JonVonBasslake]

Finally, something good about Fortnite...

[@dinguswattle]

Knock Fortnite as much as you want, I certainly don't enjoy it, but it has the best clolour blind settings out of any game I've ever seen. Being able to choose from the 3 different blindnesses and being able to vary their intensity. And I might be misremembering here but I think you can even mix them.

[@tiddleto2te]

As someone with colourblindness, you find out pretty quick. I found out when I was like 5 years old. It’s shocking to people when you get a colour wrong, because it seems like such an obvious thing from their eyes. If you’re constantly drawing skies and water purple and grass brown when you’re a kid, people will be quick to ask you what the fuck you’re doing

[@tangowango3141]

@@tiddleto2te i only found out recently lol

[@valletas]

@@tiddleto2te im not color blind but i have to wear glasses and i only discovered it when i was 16 years old The difference was so big that i coulfint belive that i fidnt notice it so i can see someone living their entire lives without noticing the color blindness

[@mixelzpixels]

In the Puyo Puyo Tetris example, there are actually quite a few visual identifiers for each color of Puyo; specifically each one of them has a unique eye shape and a unique body shape as well. The yellows for example all have pointed tops and large, smiling eyes while the blues have a curved comma-like bottom and smaller, droopy eyes.

[@thenekomancer3867]

A very interesting and important topic imo

[@HUYI1]

i was interested also, this must be very strange seeing these games in different colours compared to what we see.

[@sagemorgillo5313]

This dude can treadmill, audible, AND tetris at the same time. Colorblind people really do get improved other senses.

[@LikaLaruku]

I can kinda related to Douglas Pennant on that. I remember my mom asking be why I made all the dolphins olive green, & I'm like "what green? This is grey?" There is no name for the type of color blindness I have.

[@nafsiammara]

Is that Kirby's Ghost Trap/Avalanche? Looks exactly like it.

[@rooty]

No he clearly said it was unreal tournament 3

[@LilMartyFarty]

I have red/green colourblindness and the colourblind option on a lot of games is a blessing

[@SaintsRowDave]

I literally thought I was the only one who couldn't see when someone was going red or pale, mental..

[@roondar6141]

Special mention to Splatoon, which makes it so even if you see in black and white you can still identify which colors are yours or the enemies due to how highly they contrast.

[@kienesel7]

So thats why the green screen is so wonky on this channel's videos...

[@polybius3765]

I remember when this first came up for me. I was a UI designer for Medal of Honor: Warfighter so it could very well be related to the Battlefield story. We had a lotta Dice folk on team Dangerclose. It was pitched that one of the bosses was colorblind and someone needed to go thru a buncha assets and make color options. My reaction was "Hell yeah, I will do it. I feel like a prick for not having done it in every game I have worked on up till now." It was no sweat anyways and I always take it into consideration since then.

[@GlowingOrangeOoze]

Designing around disabilities is really interesting and I'd love more coverage of these topics if you can find any developers willing to share.

[@planetearth8455]

we all know that feeling of seeing health bars and loading bars as either fully black or fully red. its a nightmare.

[@rangergxi]

You use Resetera? Why?

[@TheStarBot]

As someone who is also colorblind and loves and adore Puyo Puyo, Puyo is actually one of these easiest to get around because you even in monochrome, you can still easily tell which part is which due to to all the facial expressions that Puyo makes that you can tell which color is surpose to be

[@Doctor-Infinite]

Oh man it seems Super Bunny Hop took his medication this time when he made this video 😝

[@Eunostos]

Showed a protanopic (red-weak) friend the colourblindness filters in Windows 10 only this week. His excitement at how vibrant and different things looked was infectious. Edit: I'm fairly sure he still percieves them differently - but them being distinct is enough to make a huge difference.

[@Jose-se9pu]

Well, is not the Death Stranding review, but ok

[@flerfsoot]

Nice of KZbin to not put this in my subscription feed for 5 days

[@0ctopusComp1etely]

Back in Castlevania: Lords of Shadow there's a puzzle to open a door about mid-game or so where the player has to flip some levers to all show the same color. A couple of my friends were watching my now-roommate play through the game when he started this puzzle. And ten minutes later, he was still struggling with it, obviously getting frustrated. It was clear that he was missing something in what should have been a fairly simply puzzle. After much trepidation and debating if he should chime in, my then-roommate piped up, "Uh, I think you're supposed to make all the red levers turn green." To which my poor friend turned to look at him, gawked, turned back to the screen, inhaled, and exclaimed, "THEY'RE CHANGING COLORS?!?!" This story became his life's contribution to society. All of my friends and I tell it to everyone we know, even random strangers we may not actually know. People in subway trains. People's parents. I wasn't even there, and I know it like the back of my hand. One of my friends wants to tell it as his speech at his own wedding when he gets married. And now, you can share the story too. Tell your friends. Tell your not-friends. Tell everyone about the man that was colorblind playing a puzzle in Lords of Shadow, and feel content.

[@TammyW]

The gaming community should always strive to make the medium as accessible as possible

[@fortunatesoul12]

This was great. Thanks for sharing this topic and your experiencia George

[@thepuzzlemaster64]

Thanks for the tip Super Bunnyhop. When I was planning designs for my games, I struggled thinking of ways to make it accessible to people with colour blindness. My initial idea was to have colour sliders for every colour or colour pallet in the game, but now that you say that people with colour blindness only need small UI and critical colour differences tweaked I can finally rest. Happily knowing that I only need to test my game on my 5 inch black and white TV to test how the colours contrast with eachother and readability, while avoiding colour critical challenges.

[@indiesslice]

Really important and well done video! Definitely will be coming back to this for help in incorporating accessiblity options in games!

[@macky1660]

I remember when I was younger playing Halo 3 online. A guy asked me what team he was on because he was colorblind. I never realized at that point people that played games and are color blind were at a disadvantage when playing games. It kinda blew my mind tbh.

[@NecroticDB]

Thanks for making this. I'm actually excited to share this with people to help them better understand what colourblindness is like

[@xotmatrix]

Really good video and packed with solutions developers should be thinking about. I'm making sure all my development peers watch this.

[@patbaitman3357]

I think why Tetris is so easy is because unlike Puyo Puyo, color code identification is only useful for seeing your piece lineup at a glance, but all of the pieces function the same way of connecting columns one way or another. And even for colorblindness, the GAME BOY figured out how to identify which bit came from which piece by TEXTURING them differently. Of course, that info is gone in the latest game, but having retro tetronimoes as an option for colorblindness would be one of the easiest QoL improvements ever.

[@sodaesq.6366]

you know, this is something i never really thought about. thanks for this video!