Which Joestar Has The Strongest Stand?

[@lorddarkrai5753]

Josuke and Giorno's stands make the most sense , range sacrificed for better speed.I love the differences in their special abilities , Josuke performs classic heal while Giorno replaces damaged life with new life before death takes effect.If death has already taken effect Giorno can only delay it while Josuke can't undo it.Bucciarati's body was already dead until Silver Chariot Requiem did the body swap with Diavolo's body.

[@AmelpsXett]

Giorno can't delay death. Bruno's soul returned into his healed body because of his will power and fated purpose

[@nevertheless872]

josuke can't heal dead people.

[@AmelpsXett]

@@nevertheless872 Josuke can heal dead people, he just can't revive them.

[@nevertheless872]

@@AmelpsXett Oh I get what you're saying he can heal there dead body's...which is pretty much useless.

[@AmelpsXett]

@@nevertheless872 it's good for funerary services.

[@timeless4168]

I personally believe S&W is the most powerful stand ever, it’s ability GO BEYOND is unaffectable (if that’s a word), GO BEYOND (ill call it GB) does not exist, so if jotaro stops time, its not affected and it keeps moving, if GER tries using 0 on it, it wont work because GB doesn’t really.exist if you get what i mean, it cant be affected by anything, not even love train, like you can dodge it but GB doesn’t have a cool down.

[@microwave16]

GER cant use return to 0 on it anyway since its not an attack, especially if its removing giornos stand

[@Art-ec5cb]

The truth of GER or Giorno being affected by the bubbles will never come to fruition.

[@nocknmae]

GER could still revert it

[@timeless4168]

@@nocknmae no GB doesn’t exist it’s on another plane of reality so there isn’t anything to revert

[@microwave16]

@@nocknmae no he couldnt the attack does not exist

[@Goober837]

Can we just clear something out that dio during road roller wasn’t punching but was banging his elbows to the road roller.

[@belttime6276]

ever experienced your funny bone getting hit by the side of your desk?

[@bobman3686]

dio could have easily beat jotaro

[@Teforlaenn]

trying to give a fuck

[@fgcnomad5135]

ikr DIO was def dropping good bows there

[@four-en-tee]

the black air force

[@emocatgaming2332]

I wish that Stone Free was only a stat point weaker in strength, as it would balance it out and make things interesting at the beginning. Then, as the show goes on she becomes physically and mentally stronger due to her experiences in prison, Stone Free reflecting that.

[@Wezlii530]

That’s literally what happened 💀

[@Latency345]

That was what actually happened. At the start, Stone Free could only crush a coin in half.

[@emocatgaming2332]

@@Latency345 But I wish that it was a slower process, and was much more gradual.

[@emocatgaming2332]

@@Wezlii530 mb I should have specified that it was a slower process.

[@Latency345]

@@emocatgaming2332 it did. At first it was only a small coin. Then she was able to do more things with it. Building a bridge, handcuffs, she was able to dismantle herself to hide. The physical strength is not what grew, but the utilitarian strength.

[@Kenny-gv3zv]

I mean it’s almost poetic that the strongest JoJo ends up being Giorno. The concoction of the Brando and Joestar families. The families that have actively cursed each other and are haunted by each other. Like for GER to be the strongest stand. Honestly feels right when it’s looked at like that. Edit: Y’all are missing the point of my comment. I don’t care about other universes. I’m saying from the story telling of part 1 - 6. GER being the strongest stand has the most impact story wise as well as Giorno being the strongest JoJo. Strength in JoJo’s is always gonna be up for debate. There is no set in stone answer for who is the strongest. It’s the same with almost any anime. The strongest is never set in stone. Besides I’m not gonna sit here and argue about who’s stronger then who when I haven’t even seen any of it. So what I’m saying is that if any one were to be the strongest JoJo/have the strongest stand, Giorno would be the most meaningful.

[@pigylord]

What your saying sounds nice but any stand is op if you use a requiem arrow in the right situation

[@TRYPH]

@@pigylord same thought

[@bigpoggers6507]

@@pigylord Any arrow, not a requiem arrow, the beetle arrow was chosen because it was distinct, any arrow works, as shown by a different arrow awakening Bites The Dust.

[@pigylord]

@@bigpoggers6507 Still doesn't require anything besides 1 of the arrows

[@ichigoglazer24]

Soft and wet solos

[@crimsonshifter5338]

People are sleeping on Soft and Wet, especially if you include Go Beyoned

[@BUR404]

I think its Go Beyond ability almost puts it in the same league as Tusk Act 4

[@Matt-jz7pw]

@@BUR404 "Same league as tusk act 4" BOI HE OUTCLASSED A LOGIC USING STAND AND THE NAME IS CALLED WOU

[@mortsartstudio9403]

there's debate that Go Beyond can eat GER tenfold

[@pyroshark3880]

@@mortsartstudio9403 what are you crazy GER can say no you to anything no matter what return to zero has no weaknesses

[@Justanaveragenoob8781]

@@pyroshark3880 Twoh can overwrite Reality which is above the abilities of Ger

[@eugeneman18pro36]

Johnny would probably win since Jotaro doesn't use his ts unless it's a desperate situation 😃 sure, star plat is faster than tusk but while barraging each other, the infinite rotation will activate cuz there knuckles are coming in contact Edit: Wait, Tusk has the power of infinite right? And infinite doesnt have a begining or an end. How will GER revert infinite to zero??

[@BUR404]

I didn't even think about that. If johnny uses a nail bullet. Jotaro will either try to catch it with Star Plat or use ts to dodge. Either way, he wouldn't know about the infinite rotation until both stands clash.

[@morgansboobies]

The only problem Johnny would have going against SP is trying to activate the Infinite Rotation. He can move inside TS albeit temporarily, And it would be no doubt be a bloody battle between the two

[@Caeden_Kaizer]

tusk act 4 is easily the 2nd most strongest stands amongst the joestars (1st being the one, the only ger)

[@LuisAngeel07]

@@Caeden_Kaizer ger is very strong but tusk act 4 still wins

[@alexdramos9803]

I mean Johnny has to be on his horse to use the infinite rotation right?

[@xfighters3913]

To be honest I think gappy's go beyond ability would actually be able to counter GER because the bubbles technically don't exist meaning GER can't even react to them in the same way Wonder Of U can't kill Josuke for pursuing the user as the bubbles don't really exist and thus are not treated as an attack or attempt to pursue a target

[@bdhhsgbyddhggg]

Strongest, Johnny. Most durable, Giorno. Most OP if you count video games, Jotaro.

[@CloutmasterPhluphyy]

Gappy moment

[@g-soap]

Bro just has to say "So it's the same type of stand as Star Platinum"

[@Uragaking]

*Gappy

[@ThaGuyXaii]

@@g-soap it only works against those who are apart of the joestar bloodline

[@Bgslhb]

jojolion moment

[@tiggerz940]

Ger is a passive stand though, it only activates when giorno is attacked. Its easily beaten by soft and wet because its go beyond attack doesnt exist, it doesnt register as an attack which is why it hit toru. Id say soft and wet is the strongest in terms of attack power but ger is the strongest defender.

[@Lordchron0s]

I’m not going to explain why I disagree but I definitely disagree

[@davizi6146]

GER is not exclusively a passive Stand, it's never stated nor implied that it is. His ability description only describes what Return to Zero can do, not any prerequisites in regards to said ability. We also know the Stand itself taking action is not passive since we directly see Giorno control it to beat down Diavolo... Man at this point I should just make a video explaining all the misconceptions about GER so I don't have to comment this again

[@tracksanino957]

It's a semi-automatic ability.

[@eglacre14]

It doesn't matter if the attack doesn't exist... Hell GER moves in erased time (practically saying he moved at the time that didn't exist) and one could even argue that GER itself is nonexistent since its stats literally says THERE ARE NONE as long as it harms Giorno... GER won't allow it

[@it6647]

@@eglacre14 also note that though the bubble doesn't exist, its effects do exist Even if GER cannot reset the bubble, it can surely reset the effects of the bubble

[@Steven_Gerrard05]

Josuk8’s stand is op as hell go beyond destroys ger ( the bubbles moves in rtz TS and any counter ) and also they move any infinite speed

[@vinicius.s.gastaldi]

I mean they rotate at an infinite spin, but I'm not even sure how one could measure the speed at which the bubble may hit an enemy because of just how it was done. I mean traveled via WiFi, or maybe gappy just needs to have an idea of place he wants to hit. Idk

[@it6647]

@@vinicius.s.gastaldi they don't rotate at infinite spin The manga uses the words very fast or rapid or whatever but not infinite

[@vinicius.s.gastaldi]

@@it6647 very high, but if you have something so thin it's infinitely close to zero that is spinning, and it surpasses calamity it's not wrong to call it a perfect rotation because it's a miracle anyway.

[@jesusvaldez6951]

Spin attacks like Go Beyond and Tusk's spin holes can surpass GER's ability since spin go beyond logic.

[@menacingpotatoleaf]

In power scaling Zero is above Infinity. That is likely why GER is seen above the both.

[@jesusvaldez6951]

@@menacingpotatoleaf I am not talking about infinity or zero, I am focusing on logic and illogic. GER ability is bound to logic, while the GB bubbles and spin holes are illogical. One can revert "anything", and the other ones are, technically, "nothing". Because of this, both attack can surpass GER's defense.

[@menacingpotatoleaf]

@@jesusvaldez6951 Really good point. I agree with that.

[@naitiksingla4954]

But the thing is ger may not be able to reverse soft and wets attack but the moment it hits giorno or ger,at that moment it again will be considered an attack against giorno thus reversing it I am not able to explain very well but what I'm essentially saying is that the moment giorno is hit by the attack he could just reverse his body to before getting hit. So there is no real way of inflicting damage on him

[@wilfridekoue1405]

@@naitiksingla4954 basically it'll be there until GER defeats/kills Soft and Wet

[@Evilshadow529]

Gappy, because go beyond isn't just erasing space. It's basically nothing. The bubbles Soft & Wet create is entirely connect to the spin. The ability that Johnny uses with his horse and Tusk. Go beyond is taking that to the next level. Where he is creating a bubble with go beyonds, it moves so fast that it becomes nothing itself. Once it touches something, that is reduced to nothing. In simpler terms, Gappy has the power to control nothing, and reduce everything to that state with zero resistance. After all, everything came from nothing.

[@mileswa]

This isnt true. It is stated numerous times that Tusk’s infinite rotation is the highest level of spin. Gappy’s bubbles are not beyond the laws of cause and effect which is what Giorno manipulates. One may also argue even if Soft and Wet’s bubbles were the most powerful, it is FAR too slow to do anything. But GER just reverts him firing the bubble and it never happens.

[@Evilshadow529]

@@mileswa I never said Gappy had the infinite rotation. He creates bubbles that have the spin, sure. However, I said go beyond makes a bubble so fast that it turns into nothing, meaning it not the infinite rotation, but the power to make nothing. He literally creates nothing. Infinite and nothing may be the same at face value, but are two very different things in meaning and life. Plus, that doesn't even matter because Wonder of U calamity is literally a more destructive version of GER return to zero state. Wonder of U calamity can manipulate probability, logic and death just to end someone chasing them in any way. GER return to zero is similar in that. But Soft & Wet Go beyond bypass Wonder of U Calamity.

[@mileswa]

@@Evilshadow529 reread my comment. I know he doesnt have infinite rotation. I am saying that his bubbles are a lower version of spin than the infinite rotation which can be reverted by GER. GER reverts causality on a 4 Dimensional level. Wonder of U is a 3 Dimensional level ability that protects the user. They arent the same. Gappys bubbles dont Transcend the 4th dimension so they can be reverted.

[@mileswa]

@@Evilshadow529 wonder of U doesnt manipulate logic nor death by the way. Those are exaggerations. It does manipulate probability but not on the level GER manipulates cause and effect they arent the same. Also GER is stated to be able to revert every ability multiple times in databooks.

[@Oshiyo]

Isn't go beyond illogical? Therefore 5d?

[@gargamella69]

I agree with u, if i should do a classific on "strongest joestars abilities" it would be this (im not counting the stats): 1 - Tusk Act 1/2/3/4 2 - Star Platinum 3 - Golden Experience 4 - Soft & Wet 5 - Stone Free 6 - Crazy Diamond 7 - Hermit Purple

[@houston3103]

its very likely that go beyond would hit, because the bubbles that it fires dont exist. This is why it was able to hit wonder of you. Its logical to conclude that GER cant reset an attack that isnt real

[@pffl1607]

If GER tries to reset Gappy's Go Beyond bubble, the action would just reset but a bubble would still come floating towards GER and Giorno. Nothing would change because it's spinning so close to 0 no force can control it. I mean if WoU couldn't, then GER can't. WoU vs GER would be so interesting tho, extreme misfortune vs misfortune never happening to begin with. It's a stalemate.

[@Anonymous-xq5cs]

No, Ger would reset it back to before he shot the bubble, or before he was injured, then ger could rush Josuke or flick a pepple

[@greypea549]

that not how GER works, it makes the enemy think they use their abillitys but in reality the enemy never did any thing, sure Gappy's Go Beyond buble might be literally nothing but if gappy even think about using it the GER's abillity will activate so Gappy would never even use the abillity to begin with.

[@pffl1607]

@@greypea549 where does it say that GER is making people think they done an attack but didn't? It's to nulify their attack, resetting their actions but time is still flowing and only the actions are set to the beginning. But once Gappy's spin bubble is made, it wouldn't be able to be controlled by GER's ability because it defies reality and GER's ability is based in reality.

[@greypea549]

@@pffl1607 that's what I got from what Diavolo said, he said something like his ability wasn't active in the first place so that was what I thought so if I am wrong then thank you for correcting me. But I still think GER will win because of it other abilities.

[@pffl1607]

@@greypea549 GER is gonna be a tough fight for sure. But with everything we've seen with Gappy having Plunder, bubble bombs and the spin, all while it being Soft & Wet without a power-up gives Josuke the high dif W. It's all situational tho and my opinion ain't fact, because at the end of the day the writer decides who wins.

[@tyrfxl5361]

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. GER is the strongest stand. Yes it can activate automatically and it’s the ultimate nullification stand. But people seem to forget that’s just it’s most iconic feature being known as Return to Zero. It also has extremely boosted versions of its original abilities as seen which would imply its healing abilities make his user practically immortal. The ability to convert anything into life and put other user’s consciousness into hyperdrive It won’t even need its return to zero to beat the other joestars. The only one on this entire list with even slight capability of even standing up to it would be Josuke and Soft and Wet Go Beyond. But even still he’d lose.

[@woomyboy98]

I think it's important to take into account Johnny vs Diego's The World. It's safe to assume Diego's The World is of equal to or lesser strength than Dio's The World and was still able to beat Johnny and Tusk Act 4. Granted he did know about the infinite rotation so he used that information to his advantage however, Jotaro has also been shown to be cautious of the enemy stand's ability. Another important factor is the fact that Diego was able to counter and overcome Tusk Act 4's infinite rotation while even if you know the ability of a timestop user there is nothing you can do to counter them in a 1v1. While it definitely is a toss up for who would win in a battle between Johnny and Jotaro I feel timestop is more of an invincible ability than Tusk Act 4's infinite rotation and for that reason I think Jotaro has the 2nd strongest stand out of all the Joestars

[@willno8888]

Diego had preparation time and was the one being pursued, this gave him a massive advantage. He used people in his way to deter Tusk and fully test its ability. On top of this, Tusk is a much more versatile stand than Star Platinum, with it being able to maneuver around quickly. This allows Johnny to shoot him from behind, or set up those wormholes to chase him down. I think the fight is definitely in Tusk's favor but it isn't impossible for Jotaro to win.

[@shriderrad4123]

I have to disagree strongly, why yes Diego did "beat" Johnny with Tusk Act 4, you need to look into the situation at hand in what happened. Diego had prep time AND a heads up from Funny Valentine to be cautious in what Act 4's ability. If it wasn't for that prep time Diego would have straight up loss even if we included time stop to the equation. If you were to scale Act 4 overall power it would at least scale to around 4th dimension due to Act 4's ability of the infinite rotation continuing even through Funny Valentine's dimension hopping, also not to mention the fact that Act 4 easily stomped D4C Love Train a stand that was able to manipulate space and stated to be invincible to any kinds of outside force, if Jotaro or Dio went against D4C Love Train they would straight up lose regardless of their hacks. So in conclusion Johnny would straight up beat Star Platinum.

[@GhettoPeach]

@@shriderrad4123 they wouldn’t lose, they would be forced into a stalemate. As soon as Valentine leaves his barrier it would be over for him via a time stop and stand barrage. Also you forget that tusk act 4 is only available when Johnny perfects the golden ratio on his horse, and I feel like the first thing Jotaro would think to do against him is to dismount Johnny. I feel like tusk is really misleading, it has by far the most potential but that doesn’t mean Johnny will 100% be able to make use of said potential.

[@shriderrad4123]

​@@GhettoPeach Actually not at all, hell even Valentine with just D4C can just take on Jotaro from just hax alone. Think about it, D4C's stand stats are on the same level as Star Platinum meaning that at the very least both stands are around similar speeds, stamina, precession, strength, and even development potential. To see who would come out on top of this dilemma would be stand users wits and stand hax ability. Valentine would take the win due to 1) Valentine has been shown to be extremely intelligent, cunning, quick witted and manipulative to his surroundings. Jotaro has been shown to be all that as well, however what gives Valentine the upper hand is his communication ability. 2) Stand hax would go to Valentine again because with D4C he can easily spam it's ability essentially whenever he feels like. Even Jotaro ended up killing one of him Valentine can just quickly replace himself with another Valentine. Or summon another Jotaro from another dimension and have him killed immediately. Lastly, Johnny can in fact use Tusk Act 4 even when he's not on a horse going at top speed. In the last pages on SBR we can see that Johnny had used Act 4's nail bullet to halt two workers, he clearly wasn't going at top speed or anything he was still just on his horse doing nothing. You're thinking about the ability of the Golden Ratio, because that's the thing that needs a horse at top speed not Act 4 alone. But even I still believe Johnny still solos because Act 4 can just take on what Star Platinum is dishing out.

[@happletree1384]

Soft and Wet go beyond is the best stand because ger's rtz start when u attack him (that's why he couldn't stop mih's uni re) so if soft and wet go beyond just hit him in the head he would instantly be dead without having time for him to start the rtz

[@pastumbrella228]

Rtz is automatic

[@supapiece3439]

@@pastumbrella228 But Go Beyond ignores all logic, so it doesnt matter if GER activates Rtz or not.

[@pastumbrella228]

@@supapiece3439 it kinda will bc the bubble will just not hit giorno

[@Amon_Star]

Ever since GER was introduced I’ve been waiting for a stand ability that ignores all CC, Hax, etc. As GER exists when the beetle stand arrow is within the stand. I thought that this is the direction we were going after part 5. My head-cannon was that the stand would be called All-Star. As it’s ability is to break the mold. Not to be affected by the rules of other stands and rules. I think Soft and Wet’s ability to ignore the rules of logic is the closest thing that I will get. And that is still pretty awesome.

[@oneshotman45]

@@supapiece3439 Wonder of U's stand is entirely based on logic. GER is not. It actually defies all logic.

[@uncleiroh5107]

achtung baby is the strongest, she was there during every single scene

[@HyperLinkRedacted]

just that we dont know

[@B4RC0D3_YT]

It will happen when over 10 years ago she became a teenage girl.

[@neilgoodman6130]

True

[@akgus1]

tusk and ger... complicated the unstoppable force meets the untouchable object

[@daikon3199]

God I love how creative stand abilities are they could be one ability but that one ability could have a whole list of sub abilities and it makes it fun seeing what creative ways stand users go to combat their opponents.

[@JazMyMan]

The Joestar stands basically Joseph: hentai tentacle monster that can read minds and manipulate tech that can also find you and can create maps Jonathan: he do that same thing as Joseph but better Jotaro: punchy ghost that can stop time Josuke: Chinese Star Platinum that can fix things Girona: Healy ghost boi that can create life and also have the power of that unknowwwnnnnnnnn aka Requiem Jolyne: punchy ghost boi string edition Johnny: punchy ghost boi act infinity edition Josuke AU: Weak stealy boi that can make op bubbles

[@FrostIsntCold08]

Isn't stone free a girl?

[@ray.7447]

@@FrostIsntCold08 if the user is a girl, its a girl If the user is a boy, its a boy

[@emperornefarious5273]

@@ray.7447 Kiss?

[@emperornefarious5273]

By the way you forgot Jonathan, DIO can be seen using his Stand too

[@CloutmasterPhluphyy]

Soft&Wet shall not be slept on. Legit one of the scariest stands here

[@mrprubert]

The only reason why I would rank star platinum as the strongest is due to Jotaro. He has a signature ability that copies the abilities of other stands. All jotaro has to say is “So, it’s the same kind of stand as star platinum”. SPOILERS AHEAD FOR STONE OCEAN I do not know why jotaro forgot to use this ability agains Pucchi and MIH since it could’ve made the result different. “I see, it’s the same kind of stand as star platinum, A lot of power and close range, it even can control time”. But that’s just how I see it, since it’s a personal ability that Jotaro has it can’t be counted into Star Platinums own abilities I suppose.

[@SubmissiveMemerality]

Time stop is honestly the combatively best, even though infinite rotation, return to zero, and go beyond are stronger. Return to Zero is defensive only, Infinite Rotation was stopped by Diego when he chopped his leg off, and what if I kill Gappy during the time he shoots his soap bubble? Gappy didn’t do anything to stop me, though I’m probably fucked after I killed him because the soap bubble one shotted me.

[@morgansboobies]

The thing with TS is that youd have to keep training it consistently just to keep it at the same duration. Jotaro stopped using it for ten years and it SKYROCKETED down to two seconds

[@sergiohernanmunozbedoya3056]

Diego chopped his leg cause he previously knew abt the infinite rotation from valentine so he had a plain against it, also he was lucky cause it hitted a limb, if he got shotted in the chest or waist, he was done for, also, tusk can also apply the infinite rotation whit his bare hands but Johny wasnt able to do it cause they were in movement so, if it wasnt for valentine diego would have no way to know that tusk would one shot him. In the same regard, if Johnny and jotaro would fight both not knowing anything about each other abilities, jotaro would be also done for, if tusk shots a nail he would most likely try to catch it or deflect it and boom, infinite rotation, he's done, and the other scenario, if jotaro tryes to punch Johnny, they will most likely barrage clash and boom again, infinite rotation, if they knew both abilities the outcome would be hard to tell but if they don't know anything abt it, jotaro loses 100%

[@risu.1]

@@morgansboobies skyrocket is upwards 🤔

[@risu.1]

i guess it could be downwards if the rocket breaks on launch or something lol

[@ZAPRST8879]

if giorno can choose when too use rtz then it can be use offensively

[@adhamgr2867]

What about soft and wet go beyond it can steal eyesight hearing some organs even body parts and abilities it can literally make nuclear explosions it can bend logic and reason to its will and completely demolish it doesn’t that count as the strongest ability in all of JoJo

[@BUR404]

Someone else brought up a similar point. It's my bad, I honestly didn't spend enough time thinking about Go Beyond abilities past its surface-level applications. Although I still think GER would win, Soft and Wet GO is definitely high on the list of Joestar stands.

[@adhamgr2867]

@@BUR404 Yeah I still think golden experience requiem is stronger but at least he deserves a place on this list

[@gayfrogs6985]

That and tusk act 4

[@mekhie.r.duncan3825]

@DIO BRANDO ger is sentient and can probably choose if something is an attack or not

[@wilfridekoue1405]

@@mekhie.r.duncan3825 WOU is sentient as well and it knows the go beyond move is an attack but it didn't trigger cause it didn't exist

[@leonc-1373]

Probably go beyond is stronger because it can exist outside reality, which makes him stronger than ger who’s ability is active only inside reality. But it was a very good video, go on making them!

[@fishingwithkirby3989]

I argue gappy's Go beyond can actually beat GER. Soft&Wets bubbles are specifically explained to be made of infinitely thin strings so close to zero that they are zero meaning that gappy's birthmark bubbles don't exist and so can defy the laws of physics and fate. It is why they can hit Tooru without a calamity befalling gappy. GER wouldn't work because it would he be reversing a attack that doesn't exist.

[@luciusbimodavonteartoni6388]

Exactly that's what i've been thinking gapoy is a direct counter against giorno

[@planktonwithwater2886]

Josuke 4 is a great counter to stand users like Jolyne and Giorno’s GE

[@Eterco]

Honestly Crazy Diamond perfectly counters standard GE (what if CD reversed/fixed GER?) and a lot of the Morioh Warriors counter Passione

[@AmelpsXett]

@@Eterco GER is not broken (lol), so it can't be fixed. The same way Crazy Diamond can't turn a butterfly into a caterpillar

[@indravalor2066]

I always thought that both Tusk and Soft and Wet's infinite rotation could harm GER since it's something that "doesn't exist".

[@AmelpsXett]

Fate "doesn't exist" too

[@lockheedac-1303]

@@AmelpsXett elaborate..?

[@AmelpsXett]

@@lockheedac-1303 the invisible hand of fate, the very thing GER manipulates

[@brunobuccirati6692]

It's hard to imagine a Joestar Stand moving faster than Star Platinum

[@soulxcvzc1561]

Something just popped into my head after watching this. I think in other videos discussing GER, it has been brought up that an attack that's basically nothing has the ability to pass through GER's defenses, similar to how Go Beyond could counter Wonder of U. With that said, I remember a similar interaction occurring before with Tusk and D4C. Not Act 4 but Act 2. Funny had tried sending the hole created by the nail bullets into another dimension but failed because they are literally voids in space, so they kept running through his body. That raises the question, can GER turn what's already a void back to zero?

[@No-OneSpecial000]

Probably not since it’s technically already at 0

[@abodadan2742]

bro.....I like your videos so much. Keep going. I support you man

[@BlueYYu]

Reality breaking stands could maybe defeat GER. Like Tusks power of infinity, infinity has no beginning or end so it might be immune to being reset to 0. GER could have a "Requiem da" moment and reset everything around it, but the act 4 bullet would just spin in the opposite way infinitely until GER stops trying to reverse it. Also Go Beyond might work similarly since resetting "nothing" to zero might not work. All up to who Araki would want to win in the encounter.

[@x88.berkay]

im my opinion, since ability isn’t strength, strenth wise star platinum is the strongest with super strength, but the best abilities go to gappy, johnny and giorno also gironos is rather defensive than offensive except the death loop thing lol

[@uniqueaxolotl497]

I think it’s possible that Soft and Wet: Go Beyond could break through return to zero because RtZ is a logical possibility, and Go Beyond is beyond logic

[@fun-epersonnproductions4002]

I think Go Beyond might bypass GER's Return To Zero, as it can break trough logic itselfe and harm a beeing formed of pure calamity.

[@ZayK-WithDaDraco]

Jojo creator said soft and wet and golden experience are mostly the strongest stands. If you look at it golden experience requiem is the strongest but cause 0 can affect anything but soft & wet is broken. Plus time stop can't be stopped by 0 cause it's pauses time which means nothing is moving The top 3 are interchangeable. 1.Soft & Wet 2.Golden experience requiem 3.Star platinum 4.Tusk 5.Stone free 6.Crazy diamond 7.Golden experience 8.Hermit purple

[@KraNisOG]

Jotaro would probably beat all the other Joestars stands, but in terms of only the stand, it's GER obviously.

[@S1l_v2r]

gappy's stand soft and wet does a bit more then just creat bubbles. his first ability is creating the bubbles we seee from the beegging, that can steal stuff from the surrounding like friction, light, eyesight and so on, the ability to store energy inside the bubbles and then make them highly explosive once bursted, being able to store physical stuff inside the bubble and conroling them to make the arsenal even more versitile, he also has the ability to make the bubbles highly dengerous like what you said, that it decemates anything that it gets into contact with. the amount of stuff you can do with this stand is already really overpowered but we still not done here. you see, the reason why tusk act 4 can move in timestop is becouse of the fact that tusks abilitys foundation is spin, and spin has a seertain direct affect on gravity, and gravity is something that cannot be denied by time or dimentions. now the bubbles that gappy creats (at least the ones that deecemate everything they come in contact) are actually really thin groups of strings spinning so fast they enter a state in which they almost non existent, meaning they are powered by the same ability of the spin. now if wee take into concider that by the time johnny fights the world diego he is still new to the stand and so its quite likely that if johnny had some time and a bit more fights with this stand then maybe he'd be able to mobalize the stand during timestop much better, and so think about the fact that becouse the go beyond bubbles work exactly in the same way that tusk's tailshots work but with a different items, it is quite likely that go beyond bubbles can also move during timestop, which intern make them much more scary when fighting soft & wet.

[@ditwrk]

I actually do agree with your explanation. This is the case if only canon is considered. But if u consider the non canon as well then Star Platinum comes on top cuz it gets the ability to reality overwrite and GER cant cancel it as it was demonstrated when it attacked dio overheaven. Even Tusk's infinite rotation couldnt scratch a person who has attained heaven. These include- Dio Over Heaven, Jotaro after learning reality overwrite and possibly Pucchi

[@dx2tophat599]

If I had to base it on Jjba all star battle R I’d have to say Josuke Higashkita’s crazy diamond from part 4 has the most powerful stand. If you use his special he literally heals the opponents health fully then destroys the opponent fully with a heavy barrage of punches. I know it’s not really healing them fully exactly but if you were to think about that in the series that’s pretty damn powerful.

[@thunderboi4488]

To clarify, Go Beyond leaves an effect GER removes effect Connect the dots

[@Clarkamadorian]

I would say that without evolutions, (without GER or Tusk Act 4, S&W go beyond,) that Stone free could just narrowly beat Golden Experience. Stone Free could easily block animals or bugs with the string, while also being stronger as far as brute strength. Of course, Soft & Wet would still totally be stronger, and Tusk Act 3 would need some further debating. Act 3 wormholes are super strong, and S&W bubbles are wild. However, counting all the evolutions, this would all make sense.

[@danielcarlos3020]

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[@julianisnttheproblem1430]

Ok 2 Things, First, Tusk Got Act 4, and also, the saints corpes are basically the requiem arrows of AU, and tusk was able to penetrate love train, which was all the saints corpse parts, so would tusk technically be able to beat giorno? also I really liked this video, watched all of it, i realy liked it but i would like it more if you didnt include GER since thats just insta win

[@fancymustache3793]

I honestly dont think we should include requiem in these kinds of camparisons since its suxh a specific scenario of giorno having the stand arrow and being able to peirce himself that theres no way the others would let that happen. Even if they didn't know what it would do given the weird conditions many stands can have they would see it as something that needs to be prevented regardless. plus its really an unfair comparison because the others didnt get to have a requiem form and only giorno did because of circumstance.

[@DracoFire3000]

Requiem forms are permanent so too bad

[@fancymustache3793]

@@DracoFire3000 I dont remember that being the case I remember somewhere seeing the arrow exit giorno's stand or something like that but regardless it shouldnt be included regardless because its the obvious answer and thats not exciting and actually is very boring

[@TakeTheWorld21]

I feel like if I had to rank all Joestars, it goes: 1. Giorno Giovanna w/ Golden Experience Requiem (obviously) 2. Johnny / Tusk Act 4 3. Part 8 Josuke / Soft and Wet 4. Jotaro / Star Platinum (He negs everyone in Eyes of Heaven) 5. Part 4 Josuke (Kira thought he was his biggest threat after getting amped by the Stand Arrow in their fight) 6. Jolyne (Not much to say, admittedly) 7. Joseph (Objectively the weakest Stand wise)

[@yurielicay]

Meanwhile Gappy's Soft and Wet: Go Beyond that can summon bubbles that are actually lines spinning rapidly making a illusion of a bubble that do not exist in reality but can be seen. Gappy should be tied with GER because the the Go Beyond bubbles don't exist meaning GER can't reset it but Giorno can get away from the bubbles and attack Gappy or Gappy will use his bubble again.

[@gaganzanwar]

I’d say that the strongest stand is Gold Experience Requiem followed by Star Platinum.

[@kingpotato7183]

You don't know how OP tusk and soft and wet are

[@BrendenActing]

This video is sleeping on Soft & Wet

[@wiichii2620]

Stab Jotaro with the arrow also see how OP he would be

[@Spluer]

Pretty sure soft and wets bubbles are immune to timestop since it's on a different plane of reality

[@rudrakpal_]

If Josuke gest hit with the infinite rotation, he can just revert back because his stand it not healing, it's reverting objects back to its previous state or fixing an object to something else (Angelo turned into a rock).

[@betterclone9521]

He can't use restoration on his self though

[@rudrakpal_]

@@betterclone9521 s*ht I forgot

[@literally_fran]

Top Strongest Joestar Stands (Ranked from Strongest to Weakest) 1. Giorno's Gold Experience Requien 2. Jotaro's Star Platinum and Johnny's Tusk ACT4 4. Gappy's Soft And Wet: GO BEYOND 5. Josuke's Crazy Diamond 6. Jolyne's Stone Free 7. Jonathan's The Passion 8. Joseph's Hermit Purple (First off, I call Jonathan's Stand The Passion by choice regardless if it's canon or not since I just use the name and not consider the abilities shown in JORGE JOESTAR. Now, DIO is seen using The Passion to take a spirit photograph of the Joestar group on a plane on their way to japan, but DIO did not need to destroy the camera to take the photo, unlike Joseph. Besides that, I believe The Passion and Hermit Purple have the same abilities but the fact that The Passion does not need to destroy a camera to use it's ability already makes it a better Stand than Hermit Purple, even if it's by little. Also, if hypothetically, Jonathan and Joseph fought each other in their prime and using Stands, Jonathan would win since it's stated that his Hamon was far stronger than Joseph's due to Will A. Zeppeli's Deep Pass Overdrive. Also, Crazy Diamond is almost if not as strong as Star Platinum itself, and Josuke is no idiot, so he'd most likely beat Jolyne in a fight.)

[@o_ija]

I haven't watched the video yet, and I presume you go into AU stands, so I would say: Johhny (TA4), Josuke (AU SOFT AND WET) and Giorno (GER obviously, GE is really weak compared to so many of the Joestar's stands).

[@UreioTheman]

The world over heaven destroys them all if you count Dio as a joestar when he stole Johnathans body

[@itsnyetime]

Star Platinum's unique ability is beating Dio no matter what. Star Platinum beats the World Over Heaven in the game

[@UreioTheman]

It’s called plot armor

[@emperornefarious5273]

@@itsnyetime Because Jonathan's body wanted it to be like that, it granted Jotaro a Stand that could keep up with DIO's newfound Stand

[@mandrak1973]

2:40 you thought it was star finger , but it was i , TIME STOP

[@tierghan5433]

I think P8 Jousuke would win, with or without GER. Go beyond is a attack “that does not exist” and Is completely unavoidable, and it also ignores causality itself. GER would not be able to reset S&W:GB to zero simply because there is nothing to reset, or it is already zero. Not to mention the property stealing aspect of the stand being able to deal with most of the others. There is also no limit to how man go beyond bubbles he can make. Go beyond is most likely unaffected by time stop, considering tusk is unaffected either, so jotaro is done with. Hermit purple and stone free get snapped with go beyond as well, or by simply removing sight and hearing. Giorno non req is dealt with in a similar way, GER being taken care of by go beyond. Lastly Jonnyis a tricky one. Go beyond and The golden spin are actually the same power, as Go Beyonds bubble is actually small lines spinning rapidly and infinitely. I think that S&W:GB wins however, and it can use Go Beyond non stop and at will, while Tusk requires the use of his horse to be naturally running or to be kicked by his horse each time he wants to use Infinate Rotation.

[@Wheebzee]

1. GER 2. Tusk Act 4 3. S&W Go Beyond 4. Star Platinum TW 5. Crazy Diamond 6. Stone Free 7. Hermit Purple 8. Hollys stand

[@funkycup3900]

Thank you for this list there’s 2 stands he didn’t mention

[@D0VEWORLD]

Soft and Wet: Go Beyond can arguably beat GER by beating Giorno himself. The bubbles don't exist anywhere and bypass logic. Not existing means they wouldn't register as an attack (as shown against Wonder of U) and therefore wouldn't meet the activation conditions for GER. Giorno would be torn apart by explosive spin.

[@a.e.i.o.u3623]

GET THIS MAN TO 10K HE MAKES GREAT VIDEOS

[@arthurut5883]

Besides the fact that it makes no sense to put crazy diamonds speed either near or equal to SP because both of them can catch bullets, it’s a pretty cool video

[@janickgonzalez3054]

Well it all depends because time stop isn't an attack on its own because it's not like when time stop occurs your soul is unfrozen but your heart and vital organs stop(which would be bad, obviously) the user attacks/acts after time stop...time stop is a universal status change not an attack on its own.

[@H.yeon_su]

I actually really wish we got to see more of Joseph’s hermit purple in part 8 where, like Jolyne, it’s hermit purple but in the shape of a humanoid that can punch and attack.

[@sonp8420]

bro really jolyne is't in part 8

[@H.yeon_su]

@@sonp8420 I said “like jolyne” referencing how her stand is her string but can take a humanoid shape by condensing said string into that shape. Hermit purple in part 8 is the same where Joseph can have it take a humanoid form by clumping up hermit purple

[@ZAPRST8879]

@@H.yeon_su unfortunately without hamon part 8 joseph hermit purple is just a better stone free (cuz of hermit purple ability)

[@verum9]

Too three are Gappy's Stand: Soft & Wet Giorno's stand: Gold Experience Requiem And finally, Johnny's Stand: Tusk Act 1-4

[@retsgaj]

i think that soft and wets bubble would penetrate through GER as its stated the bubble isnt in existence so the laws of calamity dont affect it

[@blocksls7618]

wait i’m confused, we’re you listing the stands or ranking them? because star platinum has been shown to beat crazy diamond, is stronger than both stone free and gold experience, i don’t know what soft and wet is capable of so i have no opinion but tusk act 4 is the strongest main character stand i know of, sp being second place

[@MyYoutubeThingymabob]

I love how at the start he wrote "Which Jostar have the strongest atand?"

[@FermionsQuarksLeptonsBosons]

I don't know but When he talks IT sounds Like if he JUST runned and talking When exhausted.

[@jenniferiyke307]

Jotaro is still holding back but there is no telling what he can do when he shows his true power

[@NoobishSquirtle]

Insta subbed for the New Vegas reference

[@memoryinfinity694]

Tusk could move in time stop, also you can't stop infinity, GER can revert something to zero but you still can't stop infinite, unless you say something like 'negative Infinity', but still, if return to zero activated then it most likely wouldn't affect that one nail bullet due to it being infinite. You can stop Johnny, but you can't stop Tusk.

[@DracoFire3000]

Timestop affects the flow of time, not movement itself. Thus, the golden spin would still be stopped by it. The problem is that the infinitely energized nails would not be stopped.

[@DracoFire3000]

Pretty simple list here. 1. Johnny and Giorno, since their abilities create a paradox in a 1v1 so they cannot be ranked. 2. Jotaro 3. Josuke (part 8) 4. Josuke (part 4) 5. Jolyne 6. Joseph

[@myxy4777]

Don't forget that JoJo go go data books its stated that's GER's stand stats surpass every stand in existence and they cannot be measured by any measuring rod.

[@ItchyBalls1806]

personally, i think the list would be ta4 or soft'n'wet, ger, sptw, crazy diamond, stone free and obviouslly hermit purple

[@_lynxninja_4783]

Punching power: Star Platinum Utility: Hermit Purple, Golden Experience, Crazy Diamond Durability: Golden Experience Requim(because nothing can get through him) Speed: Star Platinum Flexibility: Stone Free Skill Power: Golden Experience Requim, Tusk 4, Soft and Wet Go Beyond

[@kaysanova]

I don't wanna be that one guy, but keep in mine, Johnny needs the Golden Spin of a horse to activate Infinite Rotation (not Tusk itself), anything stops Johnny from reachin' that horse and Johnny's trump card is torn (hinting to GER's ability, displayed as to how Diavolo was "RTZ"ed and realised he hadn't moved one bit, assuming GER could do the same here or litterally any other Jojo that can stop Johnny from reaching the horse)

[@kaysanova]

also don't even tell me about the infinite rotation, because the "infinite energy" is in the nails, so even if Johnny did manage to acquire it, if GER returns the act of him shooting the nails, it's practically useless.

[@Bob-em6kn]

Tusk vs ger is just a matter of who has more plot armor. If its infinity is beyond ger or if ger is beyond infinity then yea

[@stanshatter3875]

Jojo's is all about who gets cheesed the most ridiculous way the hardest.

[@zillidisplays7983]

I feel like it is quite and assumption to assume ger can roll back tusks infinite spin. If hopping from body to body didn’t work then who is to say that ger would actually be able to counter infinite spin. Infinite spin doesn’t really abide by logic (same with soft and wets bubbles at the end of the story). It would be interesting to see a fight between these stands. Also star platinum would get destroyed by tusk as it can move in time stop and has more range more mobility and a one shot.

[@slayerofevil9753]

Welcome back to, which plot armor is stronger GER or GB. Good luck finding the answer to this one folks

[@technobread7055]

it is right if you not count GER,if other joestar get another stand arrow to stab themselve,they would also gained some OP ability

[@pixelmanns2332]

I feel that this isn't the most fair with tusk in the mix due to the odd way the corpse part and tusk react to Johnny but that's just me and I liked the video non the less

[@enamweaknopahknop9661]

Can’t wait for Araki to bring Star Platinum back to Part 9 to truly made “So it’s the same type of stand as Star Platinum.” It’s head cannon abilities. Possibly by declaring that, Star Platinum can get that abilities but slightly worst like The World.

[@PAGRlO]

We dont count GER as it is extension added to stand (requiem arrow) And tusk act 4 is activated only during specific circumstances. Josukes S&W is fusion of S&W and KQ so it also doesnt count (otherwise it would be the winner) This also means that Star platinum is the best Joestar stand then.

[@walp8408]

Why does s&w being a fusion mean it doesn't count? And trying to use logic to say ger and ta4 don't count is dumb, because if we're gonna use logic they would never fight in the first place

[@PAGRlO]

Im saying about best stand not strongest there is a little diffrence. Good stand has to be useful in many situations, not require some special item like requiem or horse, fusion

[@Hoshiguru]

I think you forgot to mention soft&wet go beyond, because that the stand that is able to defeat GER

[@dxlta3]

ranks without Requiem: 3rd: Gold experience (Without requiem) 2nd. Soft And Wet. 1st. Star platinum prime With requiem; 3rd: Soft and wet 2nd: Star Platinum Prime. 1st: GER

[@gamidlaw9242]

cap 2nd is tusk act 4 actually

[@dxlta3]

@@gamidlaw9242 actually yea ur right

[@dxlta3]

Only on non requiem list tho, on requiem list its 3rd

[@ARandomPerson66]

Not to mention that while everyone says Giorno has the strongest stands, Jotaro is one of the only one whose stand was able to obtain a new power through hardships, and Giorno has a requiem stand. Most of the other stands certainly could still be improved upon. PS: Stone Free has an incredible A in Potential, the same as Gold Experience, but sadly Crazy Diamond only has C. So yeah, who knows. Do not also forget that Star Platinum Over Heaven is a thing!

[@atomictaste4355]

yeah I don't think it's unreasonable to say that every Joestar stand could in theory go Requiem, except for like Hermit Purple, so I think saying GE is the strongest entirely because of GER is a bit of a cop out

[@AmelpsXett]

Requiem stand is obtained through hardships. Its in the name, lol

[@AmelpsXett]

@@atomictaste4355 they can't go requiem, simply because they didn't and because the arrow won't choose them.

[@atomictaste4355]

@@AmelpsXett requiem doesn't mean hardship, it's an act of remembrance or a mass for the dead, or other things relating to the dead, second every Joestar except for maybe Josuke (maybe Josuk8 as well, as I haven't read 8 yet) went through just as much if not more hardship than Giorno so saying he got Reqium through his hardship is a cop out, and third, Requiem never "chose" anyone else because Araki used it as a writing device at the end of part 5 and then never again because he realised the problem of power scaling and wanted to stop it before it became an issue, it wasn't used before because he hadn't thought of it, hence why Joseph to 4suke don't get it, and he didn't want to abuse power scaling hence why Jolyne to Josuk8 don't get it So why is it fair to say that Giorno is the most powerful because of an ability that everyone else could have gotten, but didn't because Araki didn't want to create a huge issue with future threats and the ability to easily stop them?

[@AmelpsXett]

@@atomictaste4355 lmao are you serious? There is no "power scaling", it's not dragon ball. As you said, the arrow is a plot device. And GER too. And part 5 being a self contained story, it's obvious that Requiem will be unique to it. Arrow didn't choose anyone else because no Jostar even met an opposition that would require it, meaning they weren't fated acquire the knowledge of requiem. It's fair to say that Giorno is the strongest, because at the end of the day he is, and no one else gave gotten the Requiem. How would you even imagine Requiem Star Platinum or Stone Free for example? Remember that Requiem ability is directly tied to the theme of the plot and antagonist ability. Also, how would 4suke get requiem without an arrow existing in his universe?

[@Minos-Pinos]

I think Soft & Wet is The strongest Stand among all The series, we don't know if theres a limit on what can his bubbles steal so probably he could just remove your ability to breathe, and how does he beat Giorno? Well how do You erase something that doesn't exist?

[@yo_mama_gaming4517]

I wonder how Go Beyond works against time stop? Can it maybe like Tusk act 4 also move in time stop for a moment? It could be possible since both are spin Actually when I think about it it definitely should be able to, as Go Beyond is basically an improved version of Tusk act 4, only that you dont have to sit on a horse for it to activate

[@sleepingpink]

Hax for Josuk8, his go beyond bypasses's jotaro time stop and GER return to zero

[@BUR404]

I'm not sure about that GER part. GER did say his power would work regardless of the opponent's abilities. Unless you're The World Over Heaven

[@sleepingpink]

@@BUR404 It's literally stated there, Go Beyond bypasses the world logic

[@sleepingpink]

@@BUR404 GER can't reset the bubble because it doesn't exist in the real world, it's basically a non-existent existing bubble, it defies any kind of logic including calamity, no one can stop calamity, calamity simply happens

[@BUR404]

@@sleepingpink Oh shit your right, my bad. Although I still think GER would win because of it's other increased stats and improved base stand ability

[@sleepingpink]

@@BUR404 yes, ger wins for strength and durability because soft and wet's stats is fodder compared to GER but the hax carries it

[@four-en-tee]

I was told that Tusk's final form is up there with GER though

[@thepopeofwigwungo5823]

You missed a couple. Here, let me list them for you: Johnathan Joestar's Stand. Holly Kujo's Stand. Jotaro Kujo's Star Platinum Over Heaven. DIO's The World and The World Over Heaven(Stole Johnathan's body). Shizuka Joestar's Achtung Baby(If you count adoption). The Green Baby's Green, Green Grass Of Home(Baby was made from DIO's bone, which came from Johnathan's body). Enrico Pucci's C-Moon and Made In Heaven(Pucci absorbed The Green Baby to make C-Moon). Weather Report's Weather Report(Weather got the star birthmark through Pucci). Ungalo's Bohemian Rhapsody(DIO's child). Rikiel's Sky High(Also DIO's child). Josefumi Kujo's Soft And Wet. Donatello Versus' Under World(Yet another one of DIO's children). Joji Joestar's U-Boat. Tell me if I missed any.

[@underpantsz]

its talking about Joester , i guess u watched the wrong Jojo my guy

[@thepopeofwigwungo5823]

all of these people are part of the joestar family in some way

[@underpantsz]

@@thepopeofwigwungo5823 Pucci doesn't have any blood or some kind of family relationships with the joester , Pucci only friendship with Dio which is Brando not a joester

[@thepopeofwigwungo5823]

Pucci absorbed the green baby, who was made from dio's bone, which came from Johnathan's body. After absorbing the baby, the joestar birthmark appeared on Pucci's shoulder, which means that there is some amount of joestar blood in him, and before you say it, weather report is also technically a joestar because when Pucci got the mark, it also appeared on weather's shoulder, due to the fact that they're brothers and the joestar mark seems to appear on anyone related to a joestar.

[@menot3018]

Yo yo yo Dun inc star plat over heaven cuz its js too unfair

[@DiDiDinky]

Physical Strength: Star Platinum Special Ability: Soft and Wet / Tusk Act 4 Defense: Gold Experience Requiem Versatility: Crazy Diamond

[@abyssalsunbro5975]

Bro S&W go beyond can't be sensed by ger because it doesn't exist he can't see it or feel it coming because it exists everywhere and nowhere at the same time if gappy has a target and he fires it you are instantly hit. Like no joke that stand is written to be the strongest as Araki himself said. Plus gappy is a genius fighter probably more than the others because he was able to calculate and fight Wonder of U

[@Fuphu]

I agree but there's a good change it's a tie between him and 3 other joestars. 1) Jotaro [despite it being able to move in time stop SP moves super fast and would destroy gappy and not realise Go beyond had hit him], 2) Giorno with GER can potentially shoot objects at him + maybe trick him into hitting the creatures to reflect damage before being destroyed by Go Beyond, 3) Johnny's infinite spin bullet could chase gappy after johnny's death and potentially kill him if gappy cant make an opposite rotation [im assuming he possibly could]. Am I about right? btw with SP I mean throwing objects to beat gappy like he did with iggy, part 4 bullets, part 6 spear

[@grimats4431]

Second one is that RTZ works only if Giorno is harmed and it's physical. This one is even worse than the first one, it literally renders RTZ useless as anything can opposse Giorno and GER with enough force according to this one. First of all, RTZ isn't physical, it doesn't have a form or shape you can interact with. You can't touch or get touched by something that doesn't exist physically, right? We put that aside with little thinking. Everybody already did that even before I said it so for the second part. "Giorno needs to be harmed in order to activate RTZ" It's not, RTZ will go into effect if someone performs an action to hurt Giorno. It doesn't require him to be harmed or damaged. While in TE, Diavolo splattered blood onto his eyes to disable his sight. Giorno was unconscious in process so he never felt that hapenning. GER was aware of the situation but he waited for Diavolo to attack him. If RTZ was physical and based on Giorno's pain. It could've triggered.

[@elementalgabe7860]

Well having tusk act 4 and golden experience requiem fight is kinda a weird topic. Ger can reset anything. It can make it go to zero Tusk can make something spin infinitely. Can you set infinity to zero? Is that even possible? If you multiply infinity by zero, the answer is undefined. If these two were to actually fight, I think reality would LITTERALLY collapse on itself

[@Anonymous-xq5cs]

Tusk's infinity has a starting point, if it didnt, then it would be impossible for Johnny to end his infinite rotation by shooting himself with one spinning oppositely, so ger could reset it back to the starting point.

[@bijuu_boy1482]

Very good video! The only thing I don’t get is how can GR reverse time to zero if time is already stopped?

[@BUR404]

It would reverse Jotaro’s attempt to stop time not the time stop itself

[@fangiscool1]

I only read the first 6 parts, but easily Star Platinum there. It's unclear whether GER is temporary or not. If it's permanent, then definitely GER. It seems like it could still activate in time stop even when Giorno is frozen

[@josephkingman523]

I have one way to make normal golden experience without requime 3rd or 4th, he could cover himself with micro plankton witch means if anyone hits him they ded, the ony problem is star platinum could probably use his star suck he used in part three and sick the plantlkton up and blow it away then beat gioruno, now with tusk act 4 Infinite spin might be able to bypass that hack of his or it will be put on himself so i dont know about this one, the only thing is gioruno only needs one shot and he wins unlike star paltinum, who would lay a few punches down first, ya star laltinum is way faster but if he ever needed to block golden experience would win, the reason is in the first few episodes he uses a skill that makes a tree age realy realy fast, and we know how long trees can last, so one punch and jotaros ded, unless he can stop time and punch him killing him and stopping his abylity, unless gioruno uses another skill he has and that's to nock your soul out of your body, if he can do that he can age jotaro before he gets his body back and stops time, so honestly ge and ger might me number 1 and 2 (remember that tusk is still debatable)