Burnice VS Yanagi VS Lighter: Who Should You Go For? | Zenless Zone Zero

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[@MrSilver222]

Between LIghter and Burnice it's such a hard choice, both are so good. Lighter: +3sec stun + 45% fire and ice damage boost (60% with W-engine) + 15% fire and ice dmg resist red (+50% crit damage for ice and fire with W-engine). +15% damage with proto punk discs. His playstyle is more quick-swappish so in theory he takes less field time. Can fill the spot for Ice and Fire teams. Lighter really wants his W-engine, while Burnice can do just fine with Gemini/Lip Gloss. Burnice: off-field damage is huge in a game where only 1 agent can be on field. +3 sec burn = more disorder damage. As I mentioned doesn't require her W-engine. Seems like a must-pull for Yanagi and future disorder teams. Big downside of the anomaly teams that I rarely see mentioned - they need to work around 2 elements, example Burnice+Yanagi should avoid enemies with Electric AND Fire resistances. While attack+stun team should in most cases just avoid one element, whichever the attacker has. Burnice would fit nicely in Piper/Jane+Lucy/Caesar team and she's almost a must pull for Yanagi. On the other hand Ellen/Miyabi and S11 (and future Fire attack agent) would greatly benefit from Lighter.

[@Luftgitarrenprofi]

Stun teams have to do the same. If the boss resists the stunners element, they'll stun slower. Depending on how big the stun bar is, this might be even more detrimental than on multi element anomaly teams.

[@MarioKart5]

@@Luftgitarrenprofi+1 something a lot of people forget

[@ProtoTypeFM]

​@@Luftgitarrenprofidiff is that mono teams have to dodge one resistance, while Disorder teams have to dodge two. granted, it lessens the impact of the resistance to have only half the dps lineup be affected, but it's still gonna make a difference.

[@Luftgitarrenprofi]

@@ProtoTypeFM The comparison was between multi element anomaly and stun teams, as the OPs point was that multi element stun teams don't have the same problem multi anomaly teams have by having to dodge multiple elements, which is true for any composition of any role. I agree that mono teams only have to dodge one element, but that's self-explanatory and nobody implied that this isn't true.

[@ProtoTypeFM]

@@Luftgitarrenprofi mb, you're correct, I missed the "whichever the attacker has" bit in OP's comment and thought they were talking monoteams specifically.

[@qeinz]

The fact that Lighter works well with fire AND ice attackers, and his synergy activates with sons of Calydon OR attacker instead of another fire attribute agent makes it clear that they really want him to be paired with Miyabi.

[@harukazi5154]

Waiting for Lighter. I only do attacker comps so he's really needed for my Soldier 11 team.

[@domjay]

Yanabi cause I love her design and Lighter cause I love brawlers - That's enough for me LoL

[@cyanidedonut787]

amazing video. i've been trying to decide if i should get burnice or not and this helped me decide what i should do. thank you!

[@CrextComic]

7:35 "Honki Star Rail" xD Love it! 👍

[@KanshouXBakuya]

My answer: sons of calydon

[@kuro-Sama.]

I tried Caesar but i got a koleda M1 instead and I tried a little more but she didn't come so with 45 pulls left i gonna skip and prepare for burnice i right now have 85 pulls left só yeah a least i need her i already have jane só she will be a great help to my disorders unit

[@ludkovic]

anyone have an opinion if burnice works with M1 or M2 grace? like would having that grace make yanagi skippable? asking bc im choosing between M1 rina and M2 grace for the standard banner choosing

[@eurekadiaz3771]

Yes, meta wise, Yanagi is skippable if you have Grace, Burnice does works with Grace just as she works with Yanagi, I'd go for M1 Rina honestly, pretty much all speedrunners rely on M1 Rina lol.

[@FaiGal]

Ngl after seeing Yanagi leaks, Sons of Calydon are kind of a skip now until Section 6 squad pulls up

[@pisangngepot12]

Guys help me. I have 3 Account and im going to pull Burnice but i have dilemma on where should i pull her on. My 3rd Acc don't have a good comp, or S-Rank Dps agent yet from the standard pull. It only have Qingyi, Grace, Koleda and Lycaon. So should i pull Burnice and get Lighter(Or Soldier 11 from free banner) on next patch Or should i wait for Yanagi to pair it with Qingyi?. Or pray that i get Burnice on my Main account who have Jane and Caesar(Which is impossible) or Get it on my 2nd account who have Soldier 11

[@pisangngepot12]

Or is there any suggestion for where should i pull Burnice is welcome. Main account Jane, Caesar, Ellen, Rina, Neko, Soldier 11 (A miracle if i get burnice here). 2nd account Zhu-Yuan, Rina, Neko, tried to pull Qingyi but got Soldier 11. 3rd account, The most struggling one. Qingyi, Koleda, Lycaon, Tried to pull Jane but got Grace, so i been rolling Grace dps with Qingyi and Seth comp.

[@eurekadiaz3771]

@@pisangngepot12 thats hell a lot of stunner you got there, aight I'll help you fix em, meta wise, on your 3rd acc its better to go for Burnice and play disorder with Grace. Or play mono electric Grace and build Burnice as crit for the time being (yes its fine). S11 has no business with Burnice, she wants burning so bad but if you put Burnice in her team thats such a waste, so for your main acc, since you have Caesar, you should be good on not rolling for like 5-10 future banners really. You can go with Jane, Seth, Lucy & Ellen, Caesar, Rina for the time being. for your 2nd acc, you can use ZY Anby Nicole, and as for your 2nd team... You're screwed really XD. Prob rack lots of poly, roll for Lighter and Miyabi. Of course you can just flip off all my suggestion and do what you like, after all, struggling is part of the fun in vide games.

[@pisangngepot12]

​@@eurekadiaz3771 On my 2nd Acc i use S11 for second team, and yes i was Planning to either pull Yanagi and pair with Miyabi Or pull both Miyabi and pair with Lighter on 2nd account, I just wasn't sure to pull and pair who with who. Now that i'm confident to pull Brunice on My 3rd account. thnx for the Help, i really need it 👍👍

[@pisangngepot12]

​@@eurekadiaz3771Oh i forget to Mention, on my 3rd Account i was 23 pull left from getting Burnice after i failed get Jane, So should i Pull Yanagi after get Burnice. Or should i pull Yanagi on my Main account, which one more worth??, because on my 2nd im going for Lighter paired with S11 while wait for Miyabi just like you said

[@mhairuni7235]

i have jane and caesar on my account, i really wanted to pull for yanagi for my second team, but i have 50 pulls left. i'll be broke if i pulling for burnice.

[@mendics]

piper does not need to complete her spin to do well, in fact her best playstyle DOES involve her not finishing her spin, you cancel it with dodge to save energy and also help against more aggressive enemies. she also builds excessive anom, so much so, she doesnt even need anom mastery on disc 6, even more reason not to finish the spin as it wastes your energy and overcaps anom buildup. she wants shield but not as necessary as people think, ellen is worse imo she severely wants to combo and lots of her moves are very interruptable.

[@GothamThotSlayer]

Burnice, Lighter and Miyabi this year is my goal! Lets go

[@vispunk]

Team Why Not Both comes in swinging once again 💪

[@KA1H]

More depends on your account status to choose from. I will go for Lighter as my first stunner god. 😎

[@honeyntea139]

for me who doesnt care about meta stuff and play for the character design, I will go for lighter lol I have been waiting since his first leak

[@qeinz]

im new player started on caesar banner but i skipped her. and indeed I'm planning to play burnice with piper and lucy first then try to get yanagi next.. imma skip lighter for miyabi

[@keanesn.1513]

Lighter looks like A rank

[@OrangesMadlad]

Chad accent

[@09.นายพัสกรสําลี]

Can Yanagi use 4 electric disk set?

[@Butlers_Breakfast]

Theoretically - yes. But you need the enemy to be shocked all the time to activate the set buff which is complicated in Disorder teams. It might be easier in mono electro or with Yanagi+Burnice+Seth so Burnice won’t take the on-field time and the other two could apply shock consistently

[@smpltxt.]

Best set for her, unless she comes out with her own set

[@Kindi001]

or playing on disorder since it will clean up the shock

[@kyle_senpai]

Burnice and Yanagi.Ligher is a easy skip for two reasons. Firstly it's a dude and on my account, no dudes allowed. Secondly he's a Fire Stunner, he's basically Koleda but less cute. Easier to get Koleda dupes and weapon. Easier to make stronger too. Lighter is far too similar to a Free non-limited character.

[@beefymario88]

Caesar - Lighter - S11 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Kaiyo__Nami]

broo im js gna go w lighter cus hes so gyat damn fine😭😭

[@meowblaziken5634]

Man, I love Burnice, why i cant play her on field :( , i love burning things xD

[@eurekadiaz3771]

I'll prioritize Yanagi, its my code of honor to prioritize a lady who looks exactly like how a proper lady should be, curvaceous and all. As proper as Burnice is, and as "bro" as Lighter is, Yanagi is more curvaceous, so by my code she comes first.

[@notabe8507]

🤓

[@liljonwithnoh]

What is this comment lol

[@BioMatic2]

@@liljonwithnoh im thinking the same.

[@eurekadiaz3771]

@@liljonwithnoh it is what it is 🗿

[@Raikos100]

So you simp for mommy, got you homie.

[@SiLLiX1]

ThanksUH forUH thisUH informationUH veryUH muchUH appreciatedUH

[@prawnhub357]

Sons of Calydon easy skip. All in Yanagi

[@beatricesaporito3698]

LIGHTER WILL COME HOMEEE

[@lambykin842]

SO TRUE 🙏 STAY STRONG FOR HIM 🗣🗣

[@ash30004]

I skip jane so idk what to pick now

[@ьтаржоплёширП]

Definitely not Bernice, because she's a sub-dps and you need a main-dps initially. I'd probably pool Yanagi because she's a team builder due to her being a main-dps. But I don't know the whole situation of your account.

[@shina779]

caesar for sure , what's your roster maybe I canz help

[@eurekadiaz3771]

If you dont have any problem with Shiyu or any other content, then just pull what you like, if you're still confused chances are there's just no chars you like currently, no matter what others says on how good X char is, if you dont like it just skip, I regret ever rolling for Nahida, I despise her design so much.

[@FeixiaoLiao]

I managed to full Shiyu with only Zhu Yuan and Piper so definitely pulling for Burnice because she a funni gurl

[@SplittedCorn]

Same here! 😂 but Lighter already looks peak to me.

[@tartaglialuvsbunscheshire9949]

I'm proud to say, I have cero limited 5 * and I'm not interested in getting a limited 5 star female since they are 60% females anyway so I'll continue skipping, I'm more interested in the limited 5 * males since the start of zzz 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤😊😊😊

[@shina779]

None of them. By now you should have either a piper or a jane, an ellen and or Jyu Yuan and 2 decent stunners including or excluding Caesar. the focus should be a Electric Hypercary, a miyabi if you don't have ellen ( if she is not anomaly) and maybe a powerful Fire hyper carry because S11 isn't that.

[@newlarp]

I've got Jane, Seth, Caesar (or Lucy), and ZY, Qingyi, Nicole. as my two main teams. Should I get burnice to replace seth? Or just skip? I also have soukaku and lycaon but I need to upgrade them, soo can just wait for miyabi? I have all characters except Ellen and Soldier 11 and Koleda.

[@shina779]

@@newlarp Jane seth caesar ive seen sub 0m40sec clears so reckon it's not needed to get burnice if it comes out that with the correct gear she can be a better fire hyper carry than soldier 11 (granted it's a low bar,) maybe a pull, but the consensus, it seems is she is an off field anomaly /disorder team enabler. I'd keep my eye out for an Ice, fire, lightning hyper carry so maybe miyabi (if she doesn't become anomaly ice) or elen + her weapon on rerun could be a nice project to go with your sokaku / lycaon. Name of the game right now is having an DPS answer to resistances in shiyu + 2 strong stunners (wich u have lycaon + caesar salad). Note that (lucy caesar piper clock runs at 0m46 min at 0.58 at S7) so you can run Piper lucy caesar / jane seth. Should you run into a side that you don't have an answer for. I've also seen some convicing Sokaku Dps builds should you want to have ice covered while waiting, they require lycaon to work wich you have. If you have nothing you like in the close horizon and you really like a specific character nothing you ll regret that's coming up, time to refarm enough for a guarantee on a great character you should go ahead, things must not get to stale or you'll get bored. I'd also avoid benching too many viable built characters (stunners come to mind) cause that's just wasteful.