Jaco Pastorius - Basslines & Broken Dreams

The Jaco Pastorius documentary. Jaco Pastorius, known as one of the greatest bassists ever had a troubled life, but he could bring a groove like no other. Though his life ended tragically, he brought so much music to the world in his short 35 years that his legacy is unstoppable.
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[@kickbonzo1765]

Spent many nights playing with Jaco. First met him in ‘74 South Florida at his house. From there we strike up a friendship that lasted until 1 week prior to that gruesome night of his death. He would come up on stage with whomever I was playing with and just take over the bass, to which eventually motioning all other musicians to stop playing and he and I would just take off. We both would grove hard off each other and it was awesome! I truly miss him. I’ll never forget when I got the call from a family member telling the awful news, i was on tour and when I heard those words, i just wept deeply. Every now and then when I think back of those magical nights kicking it together, wow! What a blessing to have been allowed into the genius of “ The Greatest Bass Player, Ever!”. Miss you brother...

[@guitarmeetsscience]

That is a great story - when I put these up it is really interesting to come across people who actually got to know the artist. Thanks for sharing that story, I could totally see him doing that.Jaco was a completely commanding presence on the stage. Who do you tour with?

[@kickbonzo1765]

@@guitarmeetsscience various artist; prefer not to say so not to be recognized, hopefully you understand what may follow.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

@kickbonzo1765 no worries....being swarmed on here by who knows wouldn't be too fun. Nevertheless, honored to have you here 🤘

[@kickbonzo1765]

@@guitarmeetsscience thank you brother 👏🙏

[@jonprosise7162]

You’re blessed you knew him sooo intametely

[@dougmillar8431]

He died around my 19th birthday. I've never cried harder. He was everything to me.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Man it's hard - my wife and I felt the same way when we lost Anthony Bourdain. It was like losing a member of the family.i never got to enjoy Jaco when he was alive, but can only imagine how devastating his loss was.

[@craigj.8539]

I know the feeling. Heard of his death on the way to a band rehearsal one Saturday. I didn't even want to play that day or any other day for weeks. I was just crushed...

[@guitarmeetsscience]

​@@craigj.8539I could totally understand that! Pastorius was a big presence in music. Such a void was left behind.

[@racefaceec90]

jaco's son felix is an amazing bass player. definitely inherited his fathers genius for sure.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

He definitely is! Music definitely ran in that family and I'm glad to see that he picked up some musical goodies from his dad. Keep that legacy moving!

[@mattmurray517]

He’s got a great gig with Pat Travers

[@edwardgordon4309]

​@@mattmurray517Pat Travers bassist is David Pastorius. David is the nephew of Jaco

[@chainedriderlmt3796]

Felix does a cover/reimagination of this song called 'Questions' by Tech 9ine. It's absolutely of the rails bombastic madness!

[@epicexploration]

So many musicians and artists have lived troubled lives that most fans don't realize and wow you have an incredible amount of detailed information on Jaco here and amazing how an injury lead to his bass career!!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you - There was so much to cover on this guy, he only lived 35 years but man did he pack them out. Thanks for watching I appreciate it!

[@AutisticVaxtard]

They lack moral structure

[@arno-luyendijk4798]

As a bipolar person with autism and adhd, gladly having received fitting psychic support in time which makes me help deal with the world around me still, I feel so sorry for Jaco. I sincerely hope his sad fate will help families and friends of similar persons better and earlier recognize the need for help, fitting to the person related

[@guitarmeetsscience]

That's a very good message and thank you for sharing that. By now they've definitely gotten a much better handle on things than they did back in his day. It is such a shame every time I go over his story to think that he probably would have been a lot better off How do you been born later. Thank you for sharing that.

[@arno-luyendijk4798]

@@guitarmeetssciencethanks man. The new youth definitely gets earlier and better fitting help by now, I have done my internship on a primary school for children with learning disorders, but for adults and adolescents who still wander around, a lot of work has to be done still and the persons involved have to see the need for help. Seeing this doc made me decide to sign up for an evening for people with autism in a few weeks. Hope my own experiences can help someone.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

​@@arno-luyendijk4798considering that this is one of the most inspiring comments I've ever gotten I'm a little upset that it took a while for KZbin to show me this. I'm so glad that you are taking up the cause, and it really encourages me to keep doing what I'm doing. Thank you so much for letting me know and please keep me posted on your progress. I think that's really awesome!

[@arno-luyendijk4798]

@@guitarmeetsscience well, the main progress I made is partly the result of coaching at home as a direct result of my ADHD/autism diagnosis and partly the fact that, having been diagnoses on my 40th year, I accepted my diagnosis because it finally gave me answers on why I was always considered a freak and geek with strange deep interests and hobbies: I was not mad, my brain is just wired otherwise.And I know that many adult men for whom the autism diagnosis is all too clear are struggling to accept it from themselves because autism is mainly hereditary in the male line. And my bipolar brain gives me the fantastic artistic creativity by which I can express myself in poetry, painting and composing music. For those struggling with suspicions of autism, adhd and bipolair brains, I want to say : don't be afraid to seek diagnosis, seek help and trying to accept yourselves. It will be a hard struggle in the beginning even with fitting help, but in the course of time it will give you peace and quiet, and a way to handle life your way. Famous examples of bipolarity, adhd and/or autism: Spike Milligan, Jaco Pastorius of course, Einstein, Leonardo da Vinci, Vincent van Gogh......you are in good company.

[@gordiannot77]

His playing on the song Hejira is beyond beautiful.. His playing on everything else.. Beautiful♥️

[@voyxu143]

Jaco was known at the club as an unruly drunk. The guy hit him once and Jaco hit the ground. Jaco was underweight, drunk, alcoholic undernourished and was basically living on the street. Jaco's death happened because he was in a HORRIBLE physical condition. Tragic all the way around.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

it is just a damn shame

[@russlund2507]

ehhhhh....I don't care how emaciated or undernourished he was....he had a broken arm, multiple fractures to his face and eye and a brain hemorrhage. Luc Havan may have been a martial artist, but he wasn't Superman. That one punch story is bullshit, plain and simple.

[@FYMASMD]

So his horrible mental health had no play in this? You talk like you know what’s up, but you’re just liking throwing out nastiness.

[@MarkTurner-vs7uc]

He was murdered by a martial arts fighter. He was very difficult to work with , he was going insane. But that does not excuse murder.

[@voyxu143]

@@MarkTurner-vs7uc I agree he didn't deserve to die for being an a-hole. Jaco was in horrible shape. He died from being emaciated, drunk, alcoholic then punched.

[@chrisp4445]

So great a musician. Going to study his gift and style the rest of my life. Much appreciated, and a gift to the music world. No one is perfect, but he showed you can perfect your style. Thanks to your great contribution to the world of music and all it may contribute to those who are still learning snd acknowledging your successes over any thing else. Many will appreciate what you’ve accomplished and will strive because of your hard work and dedication to the world of music.

[@The_sinner_Jim_Whitney]

'Jaco Pastorius', 'Bright Size Life', and 'Hejira' are genuinely some of the best recordings EVER made. Heavy Weather, the Word of Mouth stuff, and yes, 'Holiday for Pans', were just as good, but there was a lot of sickness in between. He genuinely probably was the best electric bass player that ever lived, as he so often claimed. When he wasn't off the rails, he was an amazing complement to any combo. Sometimes even when he was. 'Portrait of Tracy' made things fundamentally different for jazz fusion.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Love that description! Agreed fully

[@user-tt3dt3us6v]

100%同感です。私のベーシスト人生はジャコで始まりジャコで終わりました。

[@byronconsbass]

Jaco really influence me a lot on playing the bass. Thank yiu very much for sharing this beautiful video. Have a great time.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thanks so much my friend! You too!

[@manasbose8817]

What a very sad end to this unique musician. Hejira and Don Juan's Wreckless Daughter are my two favourite Joni albums and his playing on it is just sublime. Don't know about the US but here in Britain we are finally being to widely acknowledge the impact mental illness can have on an individual and their families. Those Weather Report album were fantastic

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you for your kind comment! Jaco just had away with the groove. Doing this video actually really got me into Joni's music much more. I didn't realize how good she was let alone Jaco's playing on her albums. I really love her use of ultimate tunings, and I think that also gave Jaco inspiration to drive the groove harder. And of course the weather report is just incredible. You're absolutely right, thankfully it is also being looked at here in the States too and acknowledged. So I want to say way too late, but I guess better late than never maybe. We still have a long way to go though. Thanks again, I really appreciate your comment!

[@moonie1980]

Watching with my morning coffee....another well made documentary jimmy....this guy is mr ian lucketts fave bass player next to tony levin ....ian introduced ne to jacos art.....what a awesome and interesting life story.and truly a top craftsman.....great stuff jimmy mate thankyou

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you Moonie! I've been a fan of Jaco's for some decades now. Still listening to him and still getting chills done my spine at some of those baselines. Much much appreciated man!

[@greypilgrim6157]

What a great channel I like the straightforward no nonsense narration approach. Also I just happen upon this video by chance. I knew about Jaco and his amazing talent and also that he was troubled and died a tragic death at a young age, but I never really took the time to become a big fan or listen to his music in depth. So I was looking forward to learning something about him Coincidentally, I happen to be an enormous Led Zeppelin and Jimmy Page freak, so to learn that they had played together and actually hear a snippet of this was an amazing surprise. But I had always thought he died of a drug overdose I didn’t realize it was due to a physical altercation with a skilled martial artist. What a terrible shock and what a shame such a tragic loss. But nonetheless thank you for the video as it has inspired me to listen to his music and learn more about him as an artist.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

That truly is one of the kindest comments I got, and I really do appreciate it so much. I too am also a very huge fan of Zeppelin, I came up on their music - collecting all of their tapes. Funny thing is I got into them 2 years after Bonham passed away. So yeah this jam he did with pastorius - such a tree. I'm glad you enjoyed that, and there is an actual full version up on KZbin You can find it pretty easy if you just search Jimmy Page and Jaco. I'm glad you found value in it, I'm still new to this format - but plan to keep on with them. Much much appreciated!

[@waynefoote3781]

My favourite moment watching Jaco is when he played piano with toots thielman on harmonica. Hard to stop watching that performance of his original song.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

That is a great performance! It was sad because that was around the period when he was starting to really go through his difficulties. But that enthusiasm that he had for music was infectious. Such a talented and tortured soul.

[@waynefoote3781]

@@guitarmeetsscience Yeah man....The emotions on both of their faces though and the passion just could not be more intense...A supreme joy to watch and listen to!

[@xcx8646]

The problem with Jaco's widdly-widdly lead playing is that when a bass player does that no-one is playing the bass role. This totally kills the feel of a song.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Good point, but generally when he soloed either there was another bassist up there or the keyboardist was kicking left hand

[@hisnibs1121]

I agree. For my tastes he played some absolutely stunning, fabulous and innovative playing earlier in his career (e.g with Joni Mitchell and Weather Report) but later was lost to self indulgence. I think he was at heart a baritone lead guitar player, and an amazingly technically proficient one at that, but not a bassist - he was too interested in showing off, and not interested enough in contributing to the groove, to my (bassist) ears. Obviously he satisfied some people, but I blame him, in part (along with other factors), for the current fashion for too many notes and too many strings. I wonder whether there's an upper limit to the amount of ego that makes for a good band bassist. We need egomaniacs for the punter-distracting fripperies such as lead instruments and vocalists, so that the rhythm section can get on with the more important stuff. ;-)

[@guitarmeetsscience]

@hisnibs1121 hahaha... Love your take on it! 🤘🤘

[@tigerscott2966]

Absolutely. Jaco was just too far ahead of his time. All the experimental changes and loopers he used are right at home In the recording studio today.

[@EverendeverGroup]

So the bass can never go into the upper register and become a melodic instrument? 🤔

[@marcioazzarini]

Great video my friend!!! Jaco is a legend!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thanks my friend! I really appreciate you checking this one out. Jaco was just freaking incredible!!!!

[@FYMASMD]

Mental illness and drugs make for an obviously untenable situation. I’ve worked in hospital emergency rooms for my career and I can state with experience that things are a thousand times worse now than 35 years ago. Self medicating mental illness is pandemic in this country. And what does our government do? Not much. Tragic and very sad.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

You said it - and obviously since you are in that position you have seen it a lot firsthand. Thanks for sharing that - we've really stepped back in a lot of ways. Truly a sad situation.

[@charloschalvan141]

Jaako is also a first name originally from Finland.

[@Generalbas1972]

He was the Eddie Van Halen of bass. innovative did things that nobody else could and can never be copied - the GOAT of bass Jaco Pastorius *FACT*

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Awesome comparison - damn right he definitely was the EVH of bass all the way.

[@mben-david2064]

You should be careful to state that he was the GOAT of the ELECTRIC bass. He would never have challenged a Ron Carter or Willie Dixon. He knew where his talent was best used and it wasn't on the acoustic double bass.

[@zenn3339]

I'm living the dream. I get to get up at 5am Monday- Friday to go to work. FUCK YES!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Haha Right on!!! Thank you man hopefully you enjoy it!

[@jamesshort9217]

I've been there man! Music makes it better✌

[@waynefoote3781]

Hey great documentary man! ...........Very insightful.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you so much Wayne I appreciate it! 🙏

[@kennethhacker3014]

Wonder why he never found a home with a band ,was he hard to tour with? Musically jaco was brilliant..its a very sad story.great upload

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you! By all accounts, by that time he had become really hard to work with. Booze and drugs and mental problems all compounded together. It really was such a shame because he was a genius among geniuses when it came to playing his instrument.

[@FYMASMD]

@@LageKZbinif you can’t hang with who you’re playing with, good luck.

[@derekpierkowski7641]

Really Great Vid.👍 Ya filled in some blanks.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you very much! I'm really glad you liked it! 🙏

[@HeathenDance]

Another brilliant Sagittarius powerhouse who couldn't control the inner Chaos. But he sure as hell used it to be epic and make astonishing music. Outside Metal, there aren't many musicians who impress me, from BOTH the creative and technical point of view. Jaco is definitely one of them.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

It is a great take on Jaco from a metal fans point of view. I like how people from different genres can appreciate stuff in another genre if that makes sense - fusion is making its way in a little bit and I'm loving the result. I appreciate your take man

[@HeathenDance]

@@guitarmeetsscience Awesome. Thanks for the reply. Great documentary. Subscribed!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you so much! Glad to have you aboard - and I really do appreciate your kind words. Great to meet you 🤘🤘

[@AdamBurseMusic]

Great video Jimmy, that was awesome man 😀🤘🎵🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thanks Adam 🤘🤘

[@tomdebevoise]

To this day, Jaco's scales are played by students on many different instruments.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Absolutely!

[@ifgwelf]

I was today years old when I learned that Jimmy Page and Jaco ran into eachother musically.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Definitely a very cool pairing of musicians!

[@tigerscott2966]

Great video...thanks.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you so much tiger I really appreciate it!

[@wjhandy]

The "give me a gig", said it all.. The music/audience had changed for the worse

[@brandonmalone1893]

No, he changed for the worst..you can make a living as a musician without being famous or having millions of dollars. He declined so bad mentally no one wanted to be around him, because he was was always causing a scene. When he did get gigs , he'd turn up so loud to drown out the other musicians. Start fights in clubs, and would get a huge ego. At the end no one wanted to be around him. He could of easily supported himself by playing local gigs. He was sleeping on a park bench and had his bass stolen. His mental health was the reason he couldn't get a gig, not his skill or lack of audience. Everyone who was in the business was afraid to give him a gig, because he was so erratic. He was losing his mind, and didn't have any help. He was in a mental institution a couple months before he died, but left and quit taking his medicine. He would refuse his medication because he said it hurt his creativity. So he drank alcohol, and got wildly out of control. That's how he ended up dying. He was already barred from the club that he died outside of. That's why he kicked the glass door in. He had got in , when he really wasn't supposed to be there. And jumped up on stage, and was causing a scene. Luc Haven was way overly aggressive when he threw him out. But he had a good reason for throwing him out that night

[@brandonmalone1893]

A sad end to the most talented bassist on the planet. Had he got mental help, he would of easily got gigs. He was touring in Japan in 1985, and caused so many problems, no one wanted to be in a band with him. Because they never knew who was going to show up. He'd get drunk, and would solo overtop everyone, sometimes not even playing the same song as the rest of the band. He was just in a bad mental state. And back then, he went undiagnosed. He actually refused drugs and alcohol until he joined weather report. Then one night, Joe talked him into having a drink with him. And joe said he knew instantly that was a mistake. And after that he became an alcoholic. Which brought out his undiagnosed mental illness. He also had a big ego, which didn't help anything. And helped his decision to leave weather report. Because he wanted more control. There was a lot of factors, but the main thing was he was losing his mind, and became an alcoholic. Two things that don't mix.

[@wjhandy]

@@brandonmalone1893 And I believe a lot of that was driven by the shift in the market he operated in. 78-81 was huge swing in such as short time. He was driven mad by a lot of things happening at once.

[@brandonmalone1893]

Na, it's genetics man. Most geniuses have some kinda manic depression.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

​@@wjhandyThat's also a very good point! Considering the time, the pace must have been frenetic

[@jaidillon1790]

Wow this was really great!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you so much! 🙏

[@gianlucaconte6028]

At 20:13 when he played sophisticated lady is butiful. Just bought invitation - live

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Good call! Invitation is incredible

[@k.robert6279]

THE TORTURED SOUL OF TRUE GENIUS. THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER LIKE YOU BROTHER,...YOU ARE SORELY MISSED.

[@jonprosise7162]

Great video

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you kindly Jon! 🙏🙏

[@stephanleo]

6:18 In that photograph, Jaco is the 2nd one from the right, second row, not the guy you featured on the far left! Great video!!!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you - hundreds have pointed that out and I'm still kicking myself for it lol

[@petercorbett3794]

I have a strong feeling you’ve picked out the wrong guy in the photo of Cochran CC Riders. That’s not Jaco. Look again, you’ll find him, he’s on your right as you look.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

You're totally right Thanks Peter

[@STR82DVD]

Fantastic content lad. Very sad man. So much promise.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you kindly my friend! It really is such a sad story, such a shame but nevertheless he left us with so much to enjoy. I really appreciate it! Cheers

[@STR82DVD]

@@guitarmeetsscience You're welcome.

[@clydebermingham121]

Fender should have released a JACO signature bass … (licensed by his sons )

[@guitarmeetsscience]

It would have been a big seller no doubt!

[@tigerscott2966]

When you are 30 years ahead of every one else, it's not easy.... But to be great bass player and have bio polar depression in the 70's and 80's meant even more hardships...

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Agreed 100%!

[@DougMunro]

Great video Jimmy!

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you Doug! I appreciate it man!

[@guysmalley]

Great vid, I saw James Brown at the lone star he had just gotten out of prison for tax evasion. A great music venue. Ps mental illness is hideous condition made worse by self medication as far as the bouncer getting off on a short sentence it’s a good idea, not to kick in the window and barge yourself into a bar and fight with a bouncer a very unhealthy thing to do rip

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thanks so much! That must have been the hell of a show. James Brown was an insane entertainer. As for the incident at the nightclub, while I agree that the self-medication makes it worse, the better remedy would have been to have subdued him and called the cops. Judging by the degree of his injuries, Luc unleashed full routines on the guy and obviously didn't let up for a while. Definitely a bit overkill and a sign of taking anger out on Jaco.... Less about self-defense or subdoing him. Will never truly know because there was never any video, as a matter of fact it seems the only account we have is that from Luc himself so we can't really trust it. Nevertheless, I appreciate you sharing your take on it - to me that's the biggest reward about putting out these videos is that I could talk to people like yourself. That's what makes it all worth it. Much appreciated!

[@user-ch9tv3oo4q]

🙏

[@Cristian-sr2qs]

🎉🎉🎉

[@danielsalazar9686]

Saying he mastered the bass in a week is crazy.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

By all accounts that's what he did.... He just wanted to play and couldn't do the drums anymore. He had it in his blood

[@JAK0449]

Great video.except the focus isn t done on jaco on the photo with the cc ruders...you zoomed on the wrong guy.jaco us standing on the center right of the pic his hands at his collar facing the left...

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you - I know, somebody pointed that out before and I went back over the image and I was like what the hell did I do lol. Sadly we can't go back and drop a new edit in there, but thanks so much for pointing it out.

[@dannyreisbick]

I ran to the comments when the zoom-in was not to Jaco (6:19).

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Yeah man - I will not consider that one of my more brilliant moments lol. Can't edit now too late - but I'll just know to be a bit more careful next time.

[@Cristian-sr2qs]

Vamanos🎉

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Haha right on!! 🤘🤘

[@grokeffer6226]

Very sad. 😑❤💔

[@benc5913]

He played frettless because his bass was damaged due to humidity in Florida. The fretts broke out of the neck, so he had to use it without the frets, because he was too poor to afford a new one.

[@Wrecklan13]

No, he says in the modern electric bass video, that he bought and used an upright before that upright broke from the humidity and because of that he modified his fender

[@godisbollocks]

​@@Wrecklan13 Right. He used a butter knife to remove the frets from his Fender bass.

[@Paulo_Matos_]

Hey Jimmy!!! How are you doing man?

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Doing great man Thank you Hope you're doing well!

[@Paulo_Matos_]

@@guitarmeetsscience Doing well too, brother!!! Thanks!!!!

[@sampowellmusic]

Umm at 6:22 you zoomed in to the wrong guy

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thank you - good catch. People won't let me live it down now lol

[@311superfly]

I have Jacos @7:59 thumb . not quite as long but double still.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Same here - we are part of a small elite group 👍👍

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Shawn Lane had it too.... That makes the four of us that I know of so far

[@Cho-vu3gi]

Jaco kool

[@kayakchrispy]

7:57 double jointed thumb

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Good catch!

[@311superfly]

Ft Lauderdale is doped out.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Oh I believe it! It's been decades, but the last time I was there in the course of 3 hours we must have been asked if we had any party favors like five times. What a place

[@fourthlayer]

KILLER: Luc Haven born 8/3/1962 Lake Worth FL

[@thetruckersmanifesto3873]

I've seen gg Allen take a crap on stage in Colorado. This guy. Trubbed. Phhh

[@godisbollocks]

Now that's entertainment!

[@DeadKoby]

I have nothing bad to say about the guy......... and I've listed the music........ but I just don't get it. I guess I'm just a musical simpleton.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

If you haven't heard them yet try "come on, come over", "the chicken"(Jaco version),"cissy Strut" (also Jaco version)... As well as anything he did with Joni Mitchell. I think beyond that it's kind of more wild jazz fusion stuff that tends to be a bit less accessible to the ear. For me anyway I wasn't hooked until I heard some of those ones I mentioned.

[@fourthlayer]

Murdered by Luc Haven born 8/3/1962 Lake Worth FL

[@ellblaek1032]

you mention jaco being diagnosed as both bipolar and manic depressive but the latter is just the old nomenclature for the former manic depressive being a term no longer used

[@guitarmeetsscience]

Thanks for the clarification. Duly noted.

[@joejennings3335]

He dated Bonnie Bramlett

[@VailJohnson]

I didn't care for his busy playing behind Joni. It was distracting, at best. Same for metheny, it's like the band was just goofing off behind her back. not cool.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

That's an interesting take. From what I gather from Joni she really liked the energy going on behind her, but it makes sense that it might not be everybody's cup of tea. Very interesting - I appreciate that!

[@VailJohnson]

@@guitarmeetsscience yeah, look at the players, none of them are concentrating on Joni, they're mostly looking at the other band members or just inside their own world. It's like the band is playing a different gig than the leader. I've experienced that many times, myself.

[@guitarmeetsscience]

​@@VailJohnsonI do know what you mean. Considering the time and their frenetic schedules, on the bright side I'm sure that they were really psyched to work with one another, but on the other side it's sort of overshadowed what they were there to contribute to Joni. To be honest I've been more on their side as a player, often because I would find the gigs boring. Of course that was my young wild self not really paying mind to what I could bring to the show, but more what I could get out of it. I think getting past all of that comes with age. Nevertheless I could definitely understand it much more from you standpoint nowadays. Thanks for sharing that!