Burton Step On Snowboard Bindings : Long Term Review

I’ve gotten the question a LOT of how these burton step on snowboard bindings have held up after 2 seasons of riding. How the wear and tear was, if it would change how they functioned and how I still liked them. So I’m this video I break down how I feel about the Burton Step On Snowboard bindings 2 years later and show how they’ve held up through all the snowboarding and abuse I’ve put them through!
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[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

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[@jaredsheffield7647]

Snowboarder of 20+ years, just rode my new step-ons for the first time yesterday. I'll never go back. The responsiveness was similar to an alpine setup. Looking forward to getting back out there tomorrow. Thanks for your longevity review.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Glad to hear you love them! Once you try it it’s impossible to go back! They ride so well! Yes definitely!!! 🙌🏻 hope you’re getting some great snow out there!!!

[@fudhater8592]

The only people that criticize the Step Ons are people that haven't used them

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

100%. Once you ride them you can’t go back. I wish more people would actually give them a shot, everybody just jumps on the band wagon to hate on them. They ride so dang good

[@fudhater8592]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikes You mentioned it in the video, there isn't a more responsive binding on the market, the heel-to-toe response is instantaneous

[@bobthomas8142]

It’s just impractical for the average rider that doesn’t have that kind of money for some bindings that do the exact same thing for almost double the price in most cases. If I were to give any advice to anyone I would just buy normal strap on bindings. I think there mid tier but its your money to waste so do what you want but you could get bindings ten times better for the same price.

[@bobthomas8142]

And for the fact that you need the exact boots and bindings that are matching to even ride them is stupid and makes it even more impractical.

[@fudhater8592]

@@bobthomas8142 We found a person that's never used them. Please, inform us, which bindings perform "ten times better"? And why?

[@sexoda]

I feel like I've seen you at perfect north and you're the reason why I'm wanting to get step ons 😅 great vid man see you out there 🤙

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Highly possible haha. 100% totally recommend. Especially for the short runs at perfect north. I ran the step ons for 2 years and also look up CLEW snowboard bindings. I’ve been running them this season and they’re compatible with ANY boot. 2 of my buddies have step ons, me and one of my other buddies have the CLEW. It’s awesome we all hop straight off the chairlift and go!

[@KPlainfeather08]

Very happy with the quality, perfect for a beginner testing out the sport.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Nice!!! That’s awesome to hear! They definitely are a game changer for sure!

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[@TheFireGlory07]

The only thing I didn’t like about snowboarding was getting down to tighten the straps. I rented a pair of stepons on my last day of last season and was sold after my 3rd ride. I finally bought my Step-ons this week. They are just freaking $$$$😅

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Same haha. I was a skier before snowboarding so when I first switched it drove me nuts! Thats awesome you were able to try some out! It’s a pricey investment for sure but definitely worth it 😁

[@byronherrera778]

Agree man these chage the game

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

100%

[@byunism]

Hi Alex, YT recommended this video and I checked it out and wanted to share my experience after a full season with this setup roughly about 40+ days on the mountain. Issues: 1. One of the BOA dials on my photon boot popped off and broke. It was while I was riding and I didn't hit anything so not sure what happened there but it was easily fixed, although I had to work directly with BOA instead of Burton 2. On one occasion, while trying to step onto the binding, my balance was slightly off and I stepped on one of the toe hooks. I have the second generation that has a separate piece to reduce the clicking noise and when I accidentally stepped on the toe hook, it broke the plastic piece. I was able to continue snowboarding with a single toe hook and the boot never popped off but Burton recommended that I don't do that... I think that may be lawyer talk. The customer service from Burton was fantastic and although I could have easily fixed it myself with spare parts, they would not ship me spare parts but I had to ship the binding to them for them to fix. A little annoying but the speed was amazingly fast Other than the issues above, I love the set up. I never had a proper strap setup so can't speak to the responsiveness but one thing I love about the bindings are how lightweight they are and the compactness for a clean look. I may try the new Nidecker Supermatics at some point if I get multiple boards but my feet fit well in Burton boots so step ons will continue to be my primary.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Dang! That’s weird about the BOA, Myself and my 2 friends all have the photons and haven’t ever had any issues. Heck I’ve only ever used boa boots and never seen that. That’s weird! Ya that’s one downside to the “newer” generation ones, I saw a lot of people actually had the toe clip break off really easily. I luckily never ran into any issues( I had the previous gen in this video as well as the new) They definitely are way lighter and between the 2 bindings I can for sure feel the weight difference vs regular bindings. Plus I think they just look good with no straps haha. Also look into the CLEW as well, Ive been using them this season so far and they actually ride really well and offer the best of both worlds with step ons and traditional bindings. I’ve really enjoyed them so far! Thanks for sharing your feedback as well and I’m glad both issues got wither out for you! It’s great to hear both Burton and even boa have great customer service!

[@evpecha]

I have been thinking about whether or not to go with step ons next time I have to revamp my board setup, as I am 14 currently, and this video helped me decide

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

It’s definitely worth it once you get it. Expensive but a total game changer. If you don’t want new boots as well so far I’ve been very impressed with the CLEW bindings as well. Very similar performance to these

[@DKR-1881]

Just do it.

[@ronaldwestra8735]

I have them now for 3 years and I love them. The responsiveness is great, while you are gliding out of a lift you can put them on. It was an investment (shoes and bindings) but worth every penny.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

They are protect but definitely worth it. Such a great binding system

[@trex2957]

How many days each season? These fell apart over one full season for me.

[@georgianasutu5882]

Lol, did not realize this was you, the guy from instagram😂 I actually bought the step ons because of the meme😂 and some direct reviews from friends, but the meme sold it😂

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

🤣🤣🤣that’s awesome! 😁

[@eltipicocanadiense]

Great vid! I'm looking to invest in a set of step ons. I've been boarding for 25+ years and learned with step ins back when the technology wasnt where it is today. I ended up switching to traditional bindings after a few years. However my wife skis and son is learning to ski it would make popping in and out easier and they wouldn't have to wait for me!

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Dooo it! It’s definitely worth it! They’ve come a long way! And you will definitely be able to keep up with them skiing haha

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@theblishknovk]

I got a set of photons with genesis step ons and am in absolute love with them. And i dont mean just because of ease of entry but the actual feel of them. I have bad circulation in ny feet but i love fast response so when i use straps i need to crank the blood out of my feet to get the response i want. The step ons allow me to have the boot medium tight and distribute the pressure across the whole boot instead of just 2 straps. I have the same response with absolute comfort. Absolutely in love.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I agree 100%. That’s one thing I love about the step on is that you do get much more blood flow in your feet. I noticed that as well! It makes a big difference. I’d like to try the genesis and see how they compare to the regular step ons

[@kaleoscreations8069]

So happy to hear this! I’m waiting for my Genesis to ship, and have been worrying if it was the right choice. I’m so excited to get out on the slopes with them this weekend!

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

@@kaleoscreations8069 ooo that’s awesome! You’re going to love them! I want to try the genesis to see how they compare to the regular version!

[@zefister2085]

Dude saw your video and bought a pair. I fucking love these things, I can’t believe I used to rock anything else!

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Once you try them you can’t go back! I borrowed my buddies pair and immediately bought them off him and order him a new pair 🤣

[@Lenny-it2ro]

Really enjoyed this video, I’ve been wondering how the step ons are for a while, but don’t know anyone who’s used them

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Thanks! They really are a game changer. I actually borrowed mine from a buddy who had some brand new, tried them, went back to regular bindings for a day or two and then bought my buddies off him and sent him a brand new pair🤣 once you try them it’s hard to go back

[@etwanican_7439]

Glad they work so well. I’ve been thinking about getting them mainly due to foot discomfort and convenience. Current with my vans laced boots plus the straps, my feet feel like they’re gonna fall off on every run practically!

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

This is an extremely comfortable setup! I’ve never had any feet issues. The paddle I go and dampening on these is awesome! My 3 buddies have the same boot binding combo as well and we talk about how comfortable they are all the time

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

And the connivence is awesome. Once you try it you can’t go back

[@ArctikMonkee]

I have 2021 Vans Aura Pro in a size 10. I wear a size 9.5-10 for most shoes, and they feel great on my feet, but boy the pain i get on the inside of my ankle bones from the tongue pressing into it is immeasurable. Trying to decide whether I keep getting standard bindings and boots or just do a full upgrade and get the photon stepons + the bindings obviously.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

@@ArctikMonkee dang. If you could find somewhere to try them on and make sure they fit right. We all have the photon wide and it’s one of the most, if not the most comfortable snowboard boot I’ve ever used. We all love it

[@Aphectz]

how tight are they, and what size shoe do you wear? i am a traditional binding guy, i run a loose boot tight binding setup i've heard that step-ons the boots have to be really tight for them to work properly is that true?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I run them moderately tight I’d say 6/10 maybe 8/10 if it’s super steep. But honestly I don’t notice any difference in performance regardless of boot tightness 😁 I think it’s more of a mental thing for some people with the step ons. Get them extra tight to feel secure 🤣

[@dagadagad]

Using them for around 3 years (2nd gen). It feels like this should be the standard.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Heck ya! Love to hear it!

[@drivejapan6293]

I was looking at some rear entry bindings for a new setup I'm treating myself to but was able to try the step-ons for a day and they won me over. I'm a penny pincher but even the steep entry cost couldn't keep me away after trying them. One thing I will say is the most important part are the boots. There was no performance difference between the different bindings in my opinion. Any difference I think results from an excellent marketing campaign from Burton helping people develop a confirmation bias.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

They are total game changer. I tell people all the time that they’re a hefty investment but worth it once you get a day on a pair and truly see how they work. Really!?! That’s actually really interesting to hear, I’ve always wondered how all the different models compared to one another but I haven’t gotten to try the X or genesis

[@etans2]

great video. i was wondering if the womens and mens step on bindings were any different apart from the sizing.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

To my knowledge they aren’t other than the sizing but I’m not 100%

[@Trust726]

I like step ons, not because regular bindings are hard to put on, I just like more time shredding on the mountain

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Same! I guarantee we get extra laps over the course of a day🙌🏻

[@MyNigellus]

So nice to hear about it. Can you tell me are Flow bindings still popular / used? I am actually using a flow binding (a less expensive one) and its good but difficult to put the foot in, I have to really make them loose to get in and out comfy and quickly, but I trade control and have my foot too loose this way. I'm considering the burton step-ons for the next season

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I think the most popular options seem to be the burton step ons, CLEW and now the Nidecker supermatics. The supermatics are basically a redesign of the flow(Nidecker bought flow from what I’ve heard) and I’ve watched a lot on them and they seem really awkward to get into, that’s how I always thought the flows might be just from watching others use them. The burton step ons are fantastic and i really enjoyed them, I honestly have nothing bad to say about them. I’ve been testing the CLEWS this season just to see how they stack up and honestly they’ve been really really good. Slightly faster entry than the burton step ons(I can click in coming off the lift) but you still have the option to use straps and they fit ANY boot which is really nice.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

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[@MyNigellus]

​@@BoardsBikesAndHikes Thank you so much man. As much as I love how the CLEW's look and what they provide it seems like a small company with limited stock (in Europe, Poland) they were available but aren't anymore. The Burton STEP ON's I could get right here, right now, probably easier to troubleshoot and maintain if anything goes south , locally. With the CLEW's this won't be possible. I know this almost never happens but I'm strongly considering something I can get here, which isn't limited. Also burton is huge and I can easier fix and find parts just in case. I'm riding like 3-4 days a year so practically should last for 10 years haha. I'm just worried because I was always riding loose with little flex and my left ankle is a little damaged and always hurts after 2 days riding. I'm considering something stiffer and with less flex than my Flow setup, this is how I ended up on your channel :)

[@j_a_a]

This is 10 months later but I had the same issues with my flows and decided to go step ons, best decision ever

[@AllaboutTheWoodrows]

How many times a season did you use these, I enjoyed the video definitely helpful tho

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Thanks😁🤙🏻I typically get 20ish days a season.So 40 days give or take

[@nanocalderon1997]

Can you answer me please😢 in your personal opinion wich boots you prefer between ruler or swath? Pleasee

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Oooo nice. I haven’t ridden either, but just looking at them, if it were me I would go with the swath, but I don’t think the ruler looks bad either. The swath just is a slight step up and so I feel like you’d get a slightly higher quality boot and one that’s a bit it lighter. I don’t know where you’re planning on purchasing them, but I did see backcountry is having a really good sale on them Swath: alnk.to/8EJqumA Also if you sign up for Rakuten and go to backcountry through them, you can get 8% cash back on them today www.rakuten.com/r/JATURN22?eeid=44971

[@jakegarcia84]

I did my first snowboarding 2 days ago and it was fun.. just ordered step on bindings. Which boot do you recommend? Thank you

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Me and all of my buddies are running the photon wide boot an LOVE IT. But I think where you are newer to the sport the swath or ruler might not be a bad option either. The photon is great but a much stiffer boot. I think the swath or ruler might be better boot for you where it’s a softer flexing boot:)

[@95freeeak]

is it possible to get in and out of the step on bindings, while being on a steep slope? Often there is no flat part after a chairlift so that you have to get in on a steep part.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Yes 100%. What I would do is jump and dig my toe edge into the snow so I had a “ledge” to stand on. Then just un clip. It’s also not hard to do it sitting down either if you need too

[@AznHC]

I have the same boots and after one day have shins pain when I turn toe side it hurts so much that I can’t enjoy the next days I need to find sole shins protection I think

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

It could also potentially be the socks🤷🏻‍♂️I’ve had some socks rub parts of my legs raw

[@Lorp254]

Hi. I am a intermediate rider but i have only rented gear before but now i want my own gear and was wondering if the step on’s are good as a first binding

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Yes 100%! They’re going to make your life so much easier. I have a buddy who pretty much learned in step ons! They’re fantastic for all skill levels

[@schtefel]

What do you think about: Burton Steps ons vs. K2 Clicker? Advantages and disadvantages? Recommendation?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I can’t comment too much on the K2. I haven’t used it and it’s the step in option I actually have heard the least about and seems to be the least popular/used option. I can say that if you don’t want to have to buy full boots and bindings, the CLEW is a solid choice. I’ve been running the CLEW this season and they have performed really really well

[@schtefel]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikes thank you!

[@jasonmitchell6105]

How many days total do you think have you put on step ons? I eventually had the heel clip get lose because the foam in the foot bed compressed over time which caused some heel lift when turning as there was a few mm of play between heel lock and latch. I fixed it with some foam on heel but wonder if you ran into anything similar? I didn’t really notice it until second season on them after maybe 70-80 days on them.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Like the heel clip that bolts onto the back of the boot? I’ve seen a lot of people mention the heel lift issues but I haven’t ran into it yet or if I have it’s minimal enough I haven’t noticed it while riding. I’d say I have 50 days on them probably at this point. So not quite as many as you yet🤔

[@windriverluke8300]

Huh, I've had this issue right out the gate, I've only had a handful of days on them... think i should warranty them?

[@thepalmpilot3g]

Just curious about your choice on the wide boot. I haven't ridden burton boots in awhile and back in the day they didn't make a wide option. So are the regular boots narrower now or are the wide boots just extra wide? I'm a size 15 and nobody stocks anything that big so i need to try and figure it out before ordering in case it doesn't fit well. Thanks

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Ahhh gotcha. So my reason for going wide was I had heard with the step on boots a lot of times were giving people a pressure point or weird pain where the step on points were. I had heard if you went wide this wouldn’t be an issue so I went wide without ever trying the narrower option. And they were super comfortable and I never had an issue. My 2 buddies also did the same with their boots as well. None of us typically wear a wide in other boots or regular shoes just for reference.

[@mcquoidd6917]

So are these Burton board only ??? Or can you change the plates to work with other boards ?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

They come with plates for both the channel and regular mounting 😬🤙🏻

[@lifjoy]

Great video, Alex. Question: should the binding lift slightly above the board deck when pressuring the toe side? I just bought Genesis Step Ons (size XL) and size 13 Photon boots. I ride a duck stance (for switch) with 18 degree angle front and rear. I have tried two different sets of screws to mount the bindings to a Burton board with the channel system, and yes: the screws are very tight.. Using the set of screw holes further back helped reduce this lift issue. Just wondering if you had run into this at all, and if so, what the solution could be. Thanks.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Thanks for the comment! I’m sorry to hear that. That’s weird. I can’t say I’ve ever ran into that issue. And I have no idea what could cause that. I’ve heard of some people have “heel lift” issues but mine never did. And you’re using the standard screws that come with the binding 🤔

[@Gatsu3D2A]

I love mine and will never go back. I'm rocking dc boots with mine. I love the responsiveness.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

They are an absolute game changer! Nice I was wondering how the dc step on boots were!

[@joepure9632]

Have you ever run into an issue with taking them out/in , when you need to help someone that fell midway through the trail/slope? I’m afraid it would be hard to step on after I helped a friend or someone that had trouble. The steep of blue or black, there’s not a flat spot to put them back on?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I’ve been in that scenario but never had any trouble. I have put them on sitting down or use the heel or toe edge of the board to make a good ledge so you have a nice platform to stand on to put them back on🙂

[@joepure9632]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikes great, thanks for the advice!

[@user-uy4no3ie4y]

As a beginner, its hard to take of & on my boots, so i want to buy this step-on combination. Do you think its also good choice for the beginners?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Yes absolutely! I think all skill levels can benefit and enjoy this! One of my buddies who rides with me actually learned how to ride on these. He hated the straps and didn’t want to spend any extra time/energy on them so he immediately said using the burton step ons it was one less thing he had to worry about. My best advice if you get them would be to test then out at home just to learn how to get in and out, then once you go to the mountain you’ll be golden😁

[@lobosalles]

I've been riding on StepOn for 4 years now.. I'm nor expert, I'm more like intermediate snowboarder, so won't see the fine difference between that and the others. But I love, makes easiers and is really tied to the board. The only thing that I really don't like, or at least couldn't figure it out yet, is how to step out if you ended up on a sitting position OR, even worst, if you are in the 1 foot snow. If you get stuck there, oh boy you are in trouble. Again, not expert and perhaps is my lack of experience, steping out while sitting, I don't see how. Perhaps with a litte more experience I won't be falling as much so that won't be a problem :P

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Nice! Glad to hear you’re liking them! I was always afraid of getting stuck in them in powder but never got mine in powder to find out🤣 I did learn how to get in and out sitting down, I practiced it at home and I actually did a video where I got in different positions just to see if I could get out still. Definitely worth trying

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[@joshwick8357]

what’s the board behind him on the lowest rack ? love the art work

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Lib Tech Golden Orca. This was hands-down, the best graphic I have ever seen on a snowboard. It looks literally like an art piece.🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

It was 2 years agos model. Hasn’t been as cool of a graphic since 🙌🏻🤣

[@joshwick8357]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikesthanks thanks so much !!!

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

No problem 😁

[@MrRoryG]

Thinking of buying these purely for the convenience. One thing that I'm worried about but haven't seen anyone mention is snow that can build up between your boot and the binding, how is that managed? (I do try to keep them clean but you know 🤷‍♂️) is it much more important that you've no snow build up?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

They are 100% worth it! You should do it haha Honestly it doesn’t feel like you have to knock snow out of them anymore than you do a regular binding😁

[@MrRoryG]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikes thanks. Great to know, I was wondering if any amount of compact snow would mean the "click" was harder to achieve.

[@trex2957]

No problem at all with snow in there. From the start a great FEELING system. Snow will get under the gas pedal and that will fall off and Goodluck getting hold of Burton to get a relacement. So maybe shock cord that down if you buy do it can't fall off at least... I did get snow under foot (and very quickly) but not till end of the season (70 days) when the toe clips were failing with any turns and my foot lifting up. But by that stage the gas pedal had fallen off 2x both highback hammocks had snapped off, the entire toe section of both photon boots had disintegrated... So yeah a bit of snow was a minor issue - the fact my toe clip released on every heel turn was more worrying. Find out how easy it is to get replacement toe clips before buying. And replace them before you have an injury...

[@MySwatchOrama]

Wish I could try step ons but I just got new boots that I love that do not support it. Bummer.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Check these out, I’m running them this season and they fit any boot. I’ve been really really liking them

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[@MySwatchOrama]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikes oh wow thank you. I just watched the video and they seem awesome.

[@kayhangorcek9130]

Hi, It is advertised also for beginners. On the the other hand, I heard that it's to hard for beginners. I like the idea of the step on system and would like to buy them even if I am a beginner. I would take a board for beginners like the burton instigator or ripcord. What do you think? Can a beginner handle this hardness of binding? Other opinions are also welcomed. Thanks in advance!

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

100% any skill level could use these. Beginner all the way to advanced. If anything as a beginner you’d benefit from these just to not have to worry about dealing with straps. They are EXTREMELY easy to use

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Also I can’t recommend the ripcord enough! That’s what I started on and it’s such a great board to progress on

[@kayhangorcek9130]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikes thanks for your immediate response and feedback! I appreciate it!

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

@@kayhangorcek9130 no problem 😁

[@someonewhoisntstupid]

what is your normal shoe size and what size boot are you using?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Normallly I wear a 10.5 in shoes and in the burton photon boots I’ve got the 10.5W. It’s the only snowboard boot I’ve ever gotten wide in

[@AnnyHuberts]

We just bought them for me and mij husband. 65+ years and tired of straps.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

They are definitely worth every penny 🤙🏻

[@BEMEiTY]

The reason you got the wide is because that’s your shoe size correct, XWide. I’m regular fit in shoes and boots so I should not get the wide correct? Or wrong?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

So I don’t normally wear wide in tennis shoes or boots, but I heard that the step ons you can get a weird pressure pain on your foot from the step on points on the boots so I got a wide and haven’t ever had any pain or discomfort. They also don’t feel too big. My 3 friends that also got them all did the same. And none of us normally wear wide

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

That’s what we all saw online to do and all did. So I’d recommend the wide ☺️

[@ktmracing3135]

Would you recommend these for 240lb guy with size 12 feet? My flows are terrible

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I think they’re pretty solid. My buddies and I all used them and loved them. I think our heaviest guy on them is 210-220 and he doesn’t have any issues

[@hoboman1206]

have you had any issues with the heel lift in the bindings? 3 days on the step ons and I'm wanting to go back to straps. but I sold my strap bindings and boots...

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I never have had any issues. Or if I have it’s so unnoticeable I’ve never really felt it while riding. I see a lot of people talk about it but I honestly never noticed

[@Shining_Wolf]

Adjust your high back should sort it, no heel lift on mine but used to get it on my old boots.

[@hoboman1206]

@@Shining_Wolf it’s on F2. it’s still the same. even on F3. however, it should work even without foward lean.

[@hoboman1206]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikes i guess only some people have this issue. some people i know have a super tight connection, while mine is pretty loose. maybe some quality control issues in manufacturing

[@Shining_Wolf]

@@hoboman1206 not to sure in that case mate, sorry, have seen a few comments on other youtube videos where the highback adjustment fixed it, hope you get it sorted. Only other thing I could think of is that maybe you didnt have the second click in but assume that wasnt the case.

[@windriverluke8300]

Hey Yall! I just got myself a pair of Burton step-ons for the first time, and I have a lot of positives just in the few days of riding I've gotten in. At first, it was hard to get the back boot clicked in properly while moving but that's becoming muscle memory. The responsiveness is noticeably different than the standard method of binding, my carving and general control at low and high speeds greatly improved. I'd argue my skill at jumping and getting air has improved as well with this setup in just a few days... However. I have one thing that keeps bugging me. I notice a slight click when I rock from heel to toe, it wouldn't concern me but it does feel like my heel is raising ever so slightly. I'm talking millimeters but I do notice it carving on groomers and smooth terrain. Has anyone else who has ridden the step-ons noticed this? if so, did you find it to be an issue? It's early season where I'm riding so I haven't gotten many chances in fresh snow, I'm theorizing I wouldn't notice it with more snow on the ground. Let me know! Thanks!

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Nice!!! Glad to hear you’re liking them! I thought the same, the responsiveness you gain is out of this world! Ya there will be just a tiny tiny amount of heel lift as your riding. To my knowledge everyone experiences just a bit. Never enough to be concerning but it is there. And you’ll hear the clicking noises but eventually you just get used to them and tune them out 🤣 I had the steps ons and I’ve got 3 buddies that also run them and we all had the same experience 😁

[@MicheleSmith-bb1kg]

Can you step on getting off a lift? Or do you still have to ride off the lift clipped out?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I never mastered it, but I have a friend that did, and have heard of many people doing it. I will say if I’m on a chairlift by myself, I can grab the end of the board and go on and clip myself in before I even get to the end of the chairlift to unload

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

It’s kind of funny I could do it skating, but never coming off of a lift😂

[@scottfekete2982]

why are these like the only step ons i had some drake ones but now looking to get back into snowboards the boards all seem kind of square and theres hardly any step ons at a reasonable price.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

More and more companies are getting into it which is great to see. Plus the competition gives us better bindings. The CLEW I have a promo code for $50 off and they fit any boot 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@robertoey-jo9zh]

Would you recommend step on for beginner?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Yes absolutely!!! I’ve got several buddies that essentially learned in step ons and love them. They don’t want to ride anything else. It just makes the process of getting in and out so much simpler, allowing you to focus more on the riding. Plus they’re very responsive and I think easier to ride

[@dsd-downshiftdave8056]

What's the warranty on these if they brake

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I believe lifetime warranty and you’ll ship it off to them to be repaired and get it back in about 5-7 days

[@user-cj9vt3dy1x]

I read some negative opinions about riding freeride with Step On, what is your opinion?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I never have felt like I’ve had an issue. I actually really liked the responsiveness these had when it came to going off jumps/drops. Plus these have a super comfortable footbed so landings were never harsh.

[@user-cj9vt3dy1x]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikes Thank you! And thank you about this video

[@vinluman]

How does the sizing hold up after all that time? I tried to go down a full size (11.5 wide to 10.5 wide) and couldn't stand being in them for more than an hour, so I'm going to only go half a size down to keep that feeling of my toes touching the end of the boot, except with a size that isn't cutting off my circulation. I was told at my closest burton store that they only really pack out a quarter of a size at most, but since you've actually used them for a couple of years I'd really love to know if the size truly does mostly hold up

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I kept my same traditional size I always wear (10.5) and haven’t had any issues. All my buddies did the same as well. They were a little snug initially but after a few days of riding (and hiking at a sledding hill with my nephews) they packed out just right and were super comfortable and have stayed that way.

[@vinluman]

@BoardsBikesAndHikes cool! Do you mind if I ask what's your foot size on the brannock scale? I'm just unsure if I should go down a full size and try to tough it out for these boots specifically since doing so hurt my feet so much after just an hour

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I’m honestly not sure, I would have to measure🤔I would think if they’re that uncomfortable you might want a different size but I’m not sure. How many days riding do you have in them? Me and my buddies all took about 3 days and they were nice and fitted but we also never had any crazy discomfort out of the gate, just mild.

[@vinluman]

@BoardsBikesAndHikes I haven't had a chance to ride in either size yet unfortunately, but I figured if I couldn't stand being in the smaller boots while sitting on a couch in the comfort of my own home, I wouldn't be able to stand being in them while on a mountain 😅 I bought a second pair that are half a size up and they feel comfortably snug. A little uncomfortable, though they're right out of the box. When just standing upright I feel 2-3 toes up against the front of the boot, but if I sit down, tilt my toes to the sky, and press my heel down into the floor I can only really feel my big toe barely scratching the front of the boot - do you reckon that's a fine fit still?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

@@vinluman that sounds a lot better to me. That’s about how mine were. My big toe and second toe would just barely touch the end and after a few days riding just my big toe would barely barely touch the tip every now and then and that’s pretty much how they stayed.

[@frankcedeno5467]

Do you recommend the step on for a brand new writer?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Yes, absolutely! I think it’s gonna make your experience a whole lot easier and one less thing to worry about when you’re on the mountain. I have 2 friends that learned to ride using them

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Just practice getting in and out of them at home before you go😁

[@michaelgilman7930]

Any word on these riding up the ski lift? Seems like a higher chance of the board falling off on the ride up

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I’ve never had an issue whatsoever. That was honestly my biggest fear when I first got them but I’ve had them dangling off the lift at breckenridge in 20-30mph winds and it didn’t come off so after that I knew I was safe 🤣 they also do come with a leash if you want to strap them to your front boot as a fail safe just incase something happened. But honestly after using them for a day that fear goes away and I’ve never had an issue or felt the need to use the leash

[@michaelgilman7930]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikes Cool, thanks the reply. I’m leaning towards getting these.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

@@michaelgilman7930 do it! Once you try it you won’t ever be able to go back to straps! They are awesome!

[@trex2957]

These will not fall off your feet. There will be lots of bits that fall of the bindings tho. You were warned.

[@tuba-inxs]

Is that a mic clipped to your shirt?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Yep

[@Better_Car_Control]

How are these for grinds?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I’m not the biggest park rider, I’ll hit the occasional flat box and some of the more squared off rails. But I will say the dampening on these is really great for getting on and off of the features. The only thing that I did notice is where it is a super responsive binding, where you’re directly connected to it you lose some of that tweak ability, so you have to be very precise.

[@SlingShotKid007]

I've heard some people don't like the over responsiveness of the bindings for park, but can't you just loosen the boot slightly when in the park to make up for the over responsiveness? Then tighten up for carving

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I didn’t think it was too bad, but you did have to be a bit more precise. I actually liked it on rails but noticed on jumps sometimes I had to be spot on with my landings. I’m not a huge park rider but for the park laps I did, it felt doable. Only problem with that for me is I can’t stand a loser boot 🤣

[@trailerparkboysbestshow3327]

Did you try supermatics?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

So I’ve never tried the supermatics but from what I’ve seen they are heavier, and also look a lot more awkward to slip in and out of. I’ve also seen some issues with them in deeper snow. I’d like to try them just to compare. Especially after running these for 2 years and then I ran the CLEW all last season😬

[@trailerparkboysbestshow3327]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikes yeah, but these have actual straps and they can't perform worse than step ons i powder. I would really like to see someone who rode both compare them

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

@@trailerparkboysbestshow3327 snowboard pro camp did a few videos comparing the 2 last winter and I watched a few other videos on them. At somepoint id like to get my hands on a set just to test and compare. I do have a video coming out in a bit comparing the CLEW and Step ons. So slightly closer to the supermatics since they do have straps

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

@@trailerparkboysbestshow3327 the thing I saw with the supermatics in powder was the way the mechanism works, they had trouble getting it to fully step in once it was getting packed with deep snow, and then the straps have a locking mechanism on them so you can’t just straight up use the straps like regular bindings either, which is what I did with the CLEW in deep deep snow (20+ inch pow days)

[@trex2957]

I did 76/83 straight days in Austria. These things are pretty junk. Both hammocks came off (they're held on by a single pop rivet and two plastic teeth),. The toe clips (rear) wore down becoming less reliable for entry and ultimately releasing during riding. The gas pedal (under foot) falls off because it's only retained by little plastic teeth. Happened 2x to me and I found someone else's on the mountain... The Photon boots fell apart completely across both toe boxes. This is because they stiffened the whole boot and then relied on unreinforced double stitching at the toe seam. If you carve and want more than 40-5 days forget these. If you are true beginner and want maybe 4-5 seasons doing only a week or two each season then yeah these are good. As long as you have the balance to take advantage of the entry system... And never progress your riding...

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Did you use the step on genisis I’ve seen a lot of people who have them and their hammocks came off. I’ve got probably 50 or so days on these and my buddies are close as well and so far none of us have issues. I had the gas pedal fall off adjusting the binding and such but never while actually riding 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@trex2957]

@@BoardsBikesAndHikes yes, genesis. Hammocks are plastic junk. Well, who knows when the gas pedal fell off but mine came off in queue, and found other guys on walk to lift, so they get loose then come off. Shock cord through the flap and looped under reflex solved. Rear foot toe clip started playing up and failed between 50-70 days.

[@vvdd903]

no one mention the flex or give when doing a forward lean. easy fix with a zip ties i tjink

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Whaaaaaat😨

[@rodpolintan6533]

I actually enjoy strapping in. Means im going to go ride. In or out, its not a hassle. Won't go with Burton cuz they want their stuff to be incompatible with everyone else's stuff.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Heh nothing wrong with that at all. I didn’t mind it when I was out West and runs were longer. But here on the east coast where my runs are like a minute long I enjoy not having to fiddle with them as much.

[@fudhater8592]

You can use the Step Ons with any board. DC and Nitro also makes Step On boots.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

@@fudhater8592 I’ve been really glad to see more companies make compatible boots for them

[@drivejapan6293]

It's such a unique system that there isn't much of a way to incorporate cross compatibility. With that said I believe more boot manufacturers are getting on board and the will work on virtually any brand board.

[@fudhater8592]

@@drivejapan6293 They currently do work on any board

[@MC-tm2uy]

The problem with this is with snowboarding there is no industry standards yet. I do both snowboard and ski. With my ski setup, I can get any industry standard bindings and it would work with any normal ski boots as long as I have the right norm and the right fitting (and with MNC, it fits basically anything) so I am not tied down in a specific brand and I can switch things around. But Burton always locked you into their weird set up and you'll be buying only their brand for the rest of your life. Just say no to Burton. Not because this isn't a good idea. But because they have product locked in

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

There’s a few other brands that are making step on specific boots now as well so more options are opening up. DC and Nitro

[@derg6222]

Burton started to license the step on technology for boots to other brands and surely more will follow. I don't see any reasons though for burton to license out the binding technology itself. They were the sole ones who took all the risk and pushed the long lastig development work and came up with a groundbreaking new technology.

[@robdiddy55]

I have the version 1 and I wish you could get more forward lean.

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

I have mine set to 3, I can’t imagine more lean haha. Somebody else was asking the other day about putting I longer screws

[@chaostade4087]

would you recomend a step on binding for a beginner?

[@BoardsBikesAndHikes]

Absolutely I think they’re great for all levels

[@Lorp254]

Hi. I am a intermediate rider but i have only rented gear before but now i want my own gear and was wondering if the step on’s are good as a first binding

[@trex2957]

Well, I wouldn't recommend them to anyone but a beginner or very early intermediate... As a beginner you will not be applying the forces that these (imo) cannot actually withstand. You will get all the bling bling recognition and fly off the lifts once you get a bit more confident. Only downside is if you start carving and applying real pressure to these and the boots you might end up looking to replace them as they completely fall apart.