"Butchered" Amiga 500 Rev. 5 Board Repair

Watch me trying to repair a 1987 Amiga 500 board that was pretty much butchered by the previous owner. All socketed ICs were obviously ripped out with a screwdriver and the PLCC socket holding the FAT AGNUS was broken. Will I get this one working again?
Here's the follow-up video about the same board (some more issues with it): • "Butchered" Amiga 500 ...
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Thanks!

[@CodeNova]

It's always nice to see another Amiga binged back to life. Great job.

[@nickolasgaspar9660]

Really useful and inspiring video Jan. I had a dead A500 rev 5 sitting for decades and it motivated me to start digging. I found two "cold" chips, Gary and Rom kick start .

[@brostenen]

Thanks for the video. It has helped me a lot, in bringing a Rev5/kick-1.2 machine back to life. I took notice on the fat agnus issue, and shure enough, one of the pins on mine had a thick layer of black corrotion. I moistoned it with IPA and scraped it off with a screwdriver that is as thin as the legs. Cleaned again and reseated. Then it sprung back to life with a glorious 1.2 boot screen. And then I used some 3 hours to clean rust from the plastic bottom-case. 50 percent was covered in rust from the shield. And some I had to scrape a thin layer off the case inside, as the rust had buried down into the plastic. 33 percent restored. Took 8 hours so far.

[@thomassmith4999]

What a beautiful thing to see an Amiga come back to life. Best video I've seen on youtube in a while.

[@JanBeta]

Oh, thank you. :) It felt great to switch it on for the first time and it actually worked. Did you watch the follow-up video as well? There were some more problems to fix.

[@Jasonsadventures]

Yeah man I watched that also!, I have a few Amiga that haven't been switched on in a couple of decades so I need to watch these kind of videos :). I think most of the A500s I have look fine. But I have a A1000 that never did run (I found it in a dumpster in about 2002 ? :) ) Seems like the power supply was dead, It would be great if I could get that one running.

[@razeel8529]

Congratulations on the successful fix. Hats off to you! I hope though that my A500+ will never require to undergo such a treatment. :)

[@JanBeta]

Thanks! There's actually a second video about this A500. Still had some issues that needed fixing (linked in the video description above) but now it's working flawlessly again. Your A500+ will probably never look as bad as this one (as long as you don't try to get the ICs out with a screwdriver). ;)

[@chiclone-tests71]

I'm not even interested in soldering or fixing electronics, but i watched the whole thing. Awesome work!

[@JanBeta]

Oh, thank you! Glad you liked it. :)

[@Dkentflyer]

Really enjoyed watching this video, it was great you managed to bring this machine back to life.So sad that some people treat machines that way.

[@JanBeta]

Thank you. Yeah, it's a shame how this poor Amiga got treated. It was very satisfying to take on the challenge and bring it back to life. :)

[@Pyllolla]

Congrats! We need people like you!

[@ChristopherNelson2k]

Ironic that this video popped up in my "next up" autoplay feed... the day AFTER I replaced an Agnus socket to cure a bad data path on an R6 board! Thanks for the great content, Jan.

[@JanBeta]

Haha, what a strange coincidence. Maybe KZbin knows more about you than you are aware of... ;)

[@MrSEA-ok2ll]

I am hoping that the PLCC mount in the A500 is the same one that houses the Super Buster chip for the A4000, I think it is. I followed the recommendation that if you are careful a screwdriver can work with this socket; however, I do not know how a screw driver would ever work with a PLCC socket, for I was careful and the brittle socket cracked instantly in the corner while trying to upgrade to a 1 meg 8372a chip, for I live in Canada with a revision 5 fat agnus and the 8370 and I wanted better Pal compatibility with the new ACA500 Plus. Anyway, I have ordered a new socket and the proper socket remover on its way from Europe...I just hope I can de-solder and replace the socket half as good as you have done. You have a tremendous touch with these very delicate and often stubborn components. Great video...I will be watching it again while removing my old PLCC socket, which hopefully will be soon. Hej då.

[@SpeccyMan]

Enjoyable video. Now off to watch the "revisited" one.

[@JanBeta]

+Nick B Thanks! Hope you enjoyed the second part as well. :)

[@psyolent.]

excellent vid jan. always enjoy your content.

[@JanBeta]

Thank you Greg!

[@ojkolsrud1]

I'm tempted to just buy a broken Amiga now, after seeing you fix a bunch of them. I sort of want to spray paint the case of my Amiga, but I don't have the heart to modify the machine my dad got me back in perhaps 1993 or 94. If I got a second one that isn't working, I could simply fix the main board (ehm, "simply") and sell it, while keeping the case.

[@TheGonk23]

I actually also burnt out those 2 resistors on our Rev 5 board back in the day. I was trying to connect it to our old TRS-80 Model III using a null-modem serial cable that had all 25 wires connected. The Amiga 500 supplies +12V and -12V on pins 9 and 10 (of the DB25) respectively via those 47 ohm resistors. The TRS-80 serial port didn't use those pins, but unfortunately instead of leaving them floating, it actually grounded them. This meant 12V across those resistors, which is around 3W which is far greater than they could handle. I suspect the TRS-80 wasn't the only computer/device that grounded those pins, hence why you'll see those resistors burnt out on many Amigas.

[@brianpinkerton9339]

Good work Jan. Thanks for sharing.

[@JanBeta]

Thanks Brian! :)

[@luigistrada7070]

Good work! 😄

[@SianaGearz]

Those holes aren't just good for pushing out the ICs, you can also use a twist tie through them to help you retain the socket while soldering it down easier.

[@JanBeta]

Didn't think of that yet. Good idea! :)

[@Matovich]

Great work! Congratulations

[@JanBeta]

Thanks a lot! :)

[@1T9V7H1]

Well done! I really enjoyed the video :)

[@JanBeta]

+Ton van Hoogstraten Thanks! I really enjoyed bringing the poor Amiga back to life. :)

[@PeowPeowPeowLasers]

Those two burnt resistors - what may have happened is that the previous owner mixed up the cables between the two data sockets on the back. I did this when I was a teenager and managed to connect one socket to the other - the machine was smoking, but fortunately my dad repaired TVs for a hobby and managed to fix it. Those resistors may have seen the same fate.

[@d0nKsTaH]

I always look for my old A500 rev 3 board I sold on ebay. Can't remember if it had a broken Agnus socket (I need to locate the photos I took for ebay)... But I do know the Crystal OSC had been removed... not sure if I put it in a socket and put it back or not... It also had jumper pads near the Agnus and the Trap door slot cut/soldered to complete a full 1mb of Chip RAM modification. I believe I sold the old board with an A501 expander (512k) which had its battery removed and an attempt to put a coin socket batter inside. I think I did damage my Agnus socket back in the early 1990s before I learned how to extract them better.... possible I put the old 512k one back in instead of the 1mb one. My A500 was set up to use the A501 expander, and one of the MegaChip's (DKB with the 8372b).... bringing it to 2mb CHIP RAM. I believe I put a M-Tec 68020 board in it (with 4mb of 32 bit RAM). I wanted to pair it with a M-Tec AT (IDE) Hard disk controller with 8mb of simms inside... But I couldn't understand the German instructions fully... I'd get the hard drive formatted but it would never show. So later I swapped it (from Software Hut or Devine.. or Grapevine... one of those mail order companies) with an Expansion Systems IDE/SCSI Combo and later added the 8mb RAM card. That brought the system to 14 MB total on an A500 with a 68020 ! Shame about the M-tec AT controller though... later I realized all I had to do was copy " Disk.info " to the partitions I had made and they would have shown up on the WB Screen... Sigh. A simple mistake. But it was still a good idea to pair up the two M-tec products together.. and THIS board is best to use a Megachip 500 on ! The other two, the rev 5a or 6? and the A500+ might be better to use a 2mb Agnus in the socket as long as you have 1mb of RAM in the trapdoor slot to finish the 2mb CHIP RAM limit. If that board above had damage to the Crystal OSC and there was any signs of the traces cut near the Agnus or the Trapdoor area... it could have very well been mine at one point. Although I don't recall the burned resistors ... Also, it looks like three more resistors are missing near the Paula and Gary... Which I know I didn't remove.

[@MrWaalkman]

Hi Jan, What desolder station are you using, and does it clog up on you much? I have a xytronic 988 that I spend more time trying to get unclogged than I do desoldering. Also great job on the 500!

[@TheLemminkainen]

halleluja Amiga resureaction :) Another brilliant repair video !!!

[@JanBeta]

Thanks a lot! I'm really happy this worked. :)

[@TheHighlander71]

Alright, this was pretty good Jan. An amiga brought back from the gates of hell. Hopefully you can find a nice case for it.

[@JanBeta]

The Highlander Thanks a lot! Already found an appropriate case. Just need to do a bit of retrobrighting and it's going to be perfect! :)

[@TheHighlander71]

I've never considered getting an Amiga, but is it worth running a bog-standard one? I always feel like there loads of bios and firmware upgrades and cpu enhancements and whatever...

[@JanBeta]

+The Highlander It's worth it for nostalgic reasons for me. I wanted this to be just like the first Amiga I had. So no rational thing at all. ;) For the wild upgrades and WHDLoad and more modern stuff I use the A1200.

[@TheHighlander71]

Ah right. I get that. Besides, most of the upgrades cost an arm and a leg!

[@TheDefpom]

You should get a ic pin straightener, very simple device, quick to use, handy for aligning the pins for sockets and pcb holes, as even new devices don't line up.

[@MindFlareRetro]

Good call. Very useful, indeed, especially for those old DIP chips. I snagged one a few months ago from a UK seller on eBay (goo.gl/zpc3w3) -- great price, fast shipping.

[@JanBeta]

That's a good idea. Thanks! Probably not the last time I'm gonna be handling bent pins. ;)

[@JanBeta]

Put it on my watch list. Thanks. :)

[@MindFlareRetro]

I recommend them as an eBay seller. I have purchased from them a few times without any issue.

[@JanBeta]

+MindFlareRetro Always good to know. :)

[@psyolent.]

good work man well done.

[@JanBeta]

Thank you. :)

[@esshahn]

well done!

[@discoHR]

Well done, another one saved.

[@JanBeta]

Thanks! Loved the old machine too much to let it rot away in such a miserable state. There's a follow-up video to this. The Amiga had some more issues that needed fixing. (Link in the video description)

[@sheledmikymo]

turrican 1and 2 were one of my favourite games, spent hours on them till I finally completed them both, and without using the old red restart box lol

[@JanBeta]

I completed both of them, too, after many hours of "training". I played Turrican 2 together with a friend in long sessions after school. Whenever one of us lost a life, the other one would take over and play. Took us some weeks until we mastered it in one final long session but it was totally worth it. :)

[@joesmoe71]

Any idea if the video module at HY1 is available anywhere? I've recently gotten my hands on an Amiga 500 PCB that's missing that and everything socketed, I've source everything else but that part.

[@JanBeta]

I don't know where to source these unfortunately. The best option is probably getting one from a donor board. I don't think anybody produces or stocks these hybrid chips anymore.

[@CompuforceWally]

Hi, what temperature did you set the desolder station for the Fat agnus socket removal? Did you apply any flux during the removal? Tnks!

[@bobjerome5390]

hi you are hot at fixing the cpu socket is hard to get out i have done it my self you got to have the heat right when doing the job to stop tracks lifting a round the out socket

[@MindFlareRetro]

Congratulations! Well done. That was a great Amiga resuscitation; well worth the effort. The green-bodied resistors -- are they anything special, higher Wattage, flame resistant, etc?

[@JanBeta]

Thanks. :) The green resistors are metal oxide (MOX) and have a little bit of higher Wattage/size. They don't burn that easily (I don't really know if that's a positive thing in this case though). The first matching ones I found, basically. ;)

[@MindFlareRetro]

Ah, yes. GadgetUK makes a good point about the possible faulty MC1488 -- maybe worth checking in a follow-up video.

[@JanBeta]

I'm definitely gonna look into that!

[@JanBeta]

I think I'll try to test the serial port and fix it if it's faulty. Just for the sake of learning and giving this A500 the complete treatment. :)

[@GadgetUK164]

Great job! =D I had to do the same thing with my last 500 that I repaired. People ruin those PLCC sockets by levering out from the corners =( With those 2 resistors, you might find you've also got a faulty MC1488! In order to test that you would need to use the serial port with something - but they are hardly ever used anyway.

[@JanBeta]

Thanks! :) This actually went way smoother than I expected considering what shape the board was in (I did quite some cleaning up on it before shooting this). Thanks for the tip with the serial port. I have to test it some day but I don't have anything to connect to it. Maybe I'll try recreating the serial loop cable that originally came with the Amiga Analyzer software and test it with that sometime. I kind of hope the previous owner "only" shorted the serial port power lines somehow. ;)

[@GadgetUK164]

It's not uncommon that when something shorts out on the serial port that the MC1488s fail. I used to replace a lot of MC1488's on various types of equipment for that reason. Although as you say, it might just be the VCC pin shorted to ground. Although looking at schematics I only saw one resistor for the VCC rail, so why two resistors burned out if odd. Any idea where the each connected? I should look more at the schematics really :P

[@JanBeta]

I probably should take a closer look at the schematics myself. All I read is there are +12 and -12V on the serial so I was guessing that the two resistors were for these two rails. I'll definitely have a closer look some time.

[@JanBeta]

GadgetUK164 Made a crude DIY serial loopback cable yesterday and ran the serial port test on the Amiga Analyzer. The port is fine, it seems! :)_plus.google.com/photos/..._

[@GadgetUK164]

Great stuff =D Its fun to do something like that just to prove the serial port works!

[@amigaforever2232]

perfect job !!!

[@JanBeta]

Thank you! Quite an effort but I'm really glad I got it working again. :)

[@blackterminal]

Do you put Heatsinks on any Amiga chips?

[@JohnSmith-cu7br]

Ok... the bent pins on the expansion slot is bugging me... I hope you lovingly got them straight after the video.

[@SkuldChan42]

Nice video - for some reason I thought those plcc sockets were surface mounted and I was about to be even more impressed by your rework/repair skills :). Edit: I just realized why I thought that - because without a socket you have to surface mount those chips. Socketing it probably saved Commodore money ironically ;).

[@JanBeta]

Thanks! Yeah, it's kind of like an SMD through-hole adapter in a way. The first AGNUS chips were actually usual DIPs if I remember correctly. They probably saved money and board space with the PLCC package. ;)

[@SkuldChan42]

I was thinking more along the lines of - because Commodore socketed the chip it also meant they only had to flow solder on one side of that board. They were so sneaky.

[@JanBeta]

Haha, that makes sense. :)

[@JanBeta]

That makes even more sense.

[@larsenmats]

I have found that my Rev 5 boards has better picture quality VS my rev 6A boards. At least on the screens I use (BenQ BL 702A and BL 912). So I put an 8372A Agnus in one of my Rev 5s for 1MB chip, and now use it as my main A500 for my ACA 500 + ACA 1221. Superior picture quality simply.

[@Mirandorl]

Can failed caps alone cause a green screen? I'm trying to resurrect my old rev 5 a500, slowly doing all the usual troubleshooting.

[@HeatedFireFly]

Great Job. I enjoy Live Amigas too! That socket looked hard. But you made it look easy. I don't want to see or hear about any landfilled Amigas... What camera(s) did you use to record your video with. Plus what were you talking about timing on the camera? I know about the bars on the screen. But how did you fix it? Thank you for an Alive Amiga.

[@JanBeta]

I used a (slightly broken) iPhone 5S for shooting this video with the Filmic Pro app. You have to set the framerate of the film to be compatible with the CRT you are filming or you will get lines. If you film a 50Hz display, you can shoot at 25 or 50 frames. If you shoot at 30 frames, you get the bars like I did.

[@HansCampbell]

I am wondering what burned up those resistors?! They got SMOKING HOT to burn up like that. This means a lot of CURRENT flowed thru those parts. The Amiga 500 is my second favorite Amiga model, I have 6 of them in their original boxes and many loose ones. So, I am always happy to see another one repaired or saved from the trash. The Amiga 500 blows the fucking doors off the Amiga 600 and 1200 as far as quality and design. Also, the Amiga 500 is the most popular and number one selling Amiga model, followed by its big sister, the Amiga 2000.

[@JanBeta]

I suppose somebody shorted something to ground and there was a lot of current flowing for a brief period. No idea how that would have happened though. Maybe some faulty peripheral was connected?

[@misteragony]

Got an Amiga 500 from eBay some time ago and the exact same resistors were burnt. some design flaw?

[@JanBeta]

There's quite some "juice" on the serial port (+/- 12V). My theory is that the resistors burn very quickly if you connect something wrong to the port so it would rather be a "user flaw" than a design flaw. ;) There's quite a few flaws with the earlier rev Amiga boards in other places, though.

[@VSigma725]

It seems rare for one of those Fat Agnus sockets to NOT be cracked. The A500 I just got had its Fat Agnus socket glued and zip-tied back together...

[@VSigma725]

Also I find it odd that this A500 has an older CPU than mine but has a newer(?) Fat Agnus? Mine has a 8370 Fat Agnus.

[@JanBeta]

The 8370 is the NTSC version of the 8371. It's the same chip except for the video clock stuff. :)

[@VSigma725]

Ah, good to know! Fortunately my A500 isn't so butchered but it is still not working, it never gets to the insert disk screen. I did the "feel test" and none of the chips got hot so I'm completely lost as to what the issue might be.

[@dean8553]

Always enjoyable watching a successful Amiga repair. I am currently working on my very first repair. The Amiga is a 500 rev 6a board, it hasn't been butchered, it's in very nice condition, but has a problem. The power led blinks 10 Short + 1 Long. And sometimes it will stop blinking, and the floppy drive starts to tick/ read disks, but still no boot screen. Any ideas?

[@JanBeta]

According to this list it might be a defective Agnus chip: www.lemonamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13978

[@alhartman66]

I wish I had a Jan Beta here in New Jersey, USA... I have a pair of Amiga 500's I'd love to try to get at least one working unit out of.

[@JanBeta]

There certainly is someone around who knows things about Amigas. :) If you want to approach it yourself and I can be of any help, feel free to email me.

[@alhartman66]

Well... I blew a keyboard chip, so I ordered a replacement. And I ordered two sets of caps to recap both units. I have Isopropyl Alcohol and Contact cleaner coming. I'm going to try to do my best Jan Beta imitation. But, I'm only half German. ;)

[@JanBeta]

Haha, I hope successfully repairing Amigas has not too much to do with being German. ;) Good luck!

[@ichabaudcraine2923]

The montage music really reminds me of Homestar Runner haha

[@JanBeta]

I actually had to google that. But you're right, the music sounds quite similar. I hacked mine together myself a while back. Maybe I should add vocals. ;)

[@Thelemorf]

Adrian in swedish is almoust the same as in german, but you say it with a long A in the beginning and a short A the second time :)

[@JanBeta]

+Thelemorf Oh, okay. I'll keep that in mind. Thanks! :)

[@infinitecanadian]

Here's a tip: you might want to put tape on the jaws of the pliers so that the teeth do not grind the legs. You can also get smooth jawed duck bill pliers for that job.

[@JanBeta]

Oh, that's a good tip. Never thought of that. Thanks! Hope I remember next time I work on ICs with pliers.

[@infinitecanadian]

@@JanBeta Yeah; it's just that I have used pliers and found things wearing down with them. Probably your best bet is the smooth jawed pliers.

[@turricanxenon4966]

Hello can you help me ? My Amiga 500 led power blinks non stop and the tv screen stays grey do you know what is the source of this issue? i have a second issue: I turn on the PSU but the Amiga 500 doesn´t turn on (the PSU was tested it´s working ok) what should i do about? and there another issue with another Amiga 500 the drive led light is always lighted up (i exchanged the way i plugged the drive connectors but the led stills always on)

[@JanBeta]

If the power LED blinks in intervals, it might be an error code, otherwise it just means that the Amiga can't finish the Reset routine and is stuck in a loop. There's too many possible faults to list here I'm afraid... I would start by reseating socketed chips and cleaning contacts. I found that a lot of faults on A500s can be resolved that way. As for the drive, it might be a leaky/shorted capacitor on the drive PCB. It might also be the CIA chip closer to the drive that is faulty. You can swap the two CIA chips to check. If the drive starts working with the chips swapped, it's the CIA.

[@tenminutetokyo2643]

Also jam in all new mini ceramic caps.

[@johnharmer394]

Hi Jan, I appear to have a twin of your "Butchered" Amiga 500 Rev 5 Board; and I have both resistors burnt out as per 3:44 on your Video. What ar the Values of these two resistors? They are so badly burnt I cannot Tell, Thanks

[@JanBeta]

47 ohms, as I said later in the video. I used 1W metal film, but regular 1/4W should be enough.

[@johnharmer394]

Danke Schoen :-)

[@dayzmelttogether]

where can i buy an amiga for cheap?

[@JanBeta]

I’d recommend looking for one locally. Prices on ebay etc are mostly way over the top.

[@refractionpcsx2]

What happened to the power LED? It worked up until the rainbow arts logo then went out lol

[@JanBeta]

+RefractionPCSX2 The power LED and the audio hi pass filter have the same address, so when the filter is toggled (many games do it), the LED is also dimmed (or in the case of the older red LED model A500 is turned off altogether). Kind of irritating but perfectly normal behavior. ;)

[@refractionpcsx2]

Jan Beta ahhhhh fair enough! I never noticed when I had my amiga, although it was a 1200 (I did have a 500+ but again never noticed) so I don't know if it was wired different or if I just never looked lol

[@JanBeta]

+RefractionPCSX2 It's very subtle on the newer models but def. noticeable. I have an A1200 here, too. I think it's only the first gen A500s were it's completely turned off.

[@refractionpcsx2]

Must have been it! I could usually not tell if the light was on brightly or dimmed so it wouldn't have showed up :) But interesting quirk! Thanks for clarifying :) And great video of course! Got yourself a new Sub :)

[@JanBeta]

+RefractionPCSX2 Thanks! Welcome aboard. :)

[@crumplezone1]

Thanks for making that A500 mobo `Great again !`

[@JanBeta]

Thanks for watching! I don't know if that's the right metaphor though. ;)

[@crumplezone1]

I disagree Jan as the A500 was Great when launched to the market in 1987 so you repairing it have made it Great Again! LoL And keep doing the videos bud we love em !

[@JanBeta]

Thanks! No question about the greatness of the Amiga. I was totally blown away by its capabilities when it came out! I was referring to the Donald Trump slogan I don't necessarily approve of. ;)

[@user-Vitoc172]

У меня в гараже на стенке прикручена такая плата, ИСПРАВНАЯ.

[@mdftrasher]

Who can resist? I bought one on a flea market for 2,50 euro. I dont have a need for more, but..... The machine has a common fault, the keyboard chip.

[@JanBeta]

+mdftrasher That's a good price! :) Yeah, the IC on the keyboard PCB fails pretty frequently. There's also tantalum caps on some keyboards that can fail in naughty ways.

[@mdftrasher]

Did not know that, thanks!

[@DAIadvisor]

One dislike courtesy of Jack Tramiel

[@JanBeta]

Haha, probably. :D

[@7777Ralph]

Where's the battery on that?

[@JanBeta]

+7777Ralph There's no battery in the Amiga 500. Only the 500+ comes with a battery buffered clock.

[@7777Ralph]

Oh. Thank you very much.

[@ChristianMiersch]

Schon schlimm, wenn man die TRSI-Turrican1-Version prompt am Decruncher-Screen beim Reinklicken bei 32:31 erkennt :D

[@JanBeta]

Haha, das ist nicht schlimm sondern eher beeindruckend. ;) Mir geht es manchmal ganz ähnlich mit Cracktros, die ich noch von früher kenne und jetzt wieder sehe.

[@ChristianMiersch]

Absolut! Mein "Schlimm" war komplett scherzhaft gemeint ;)

[@retrogamer33]

Violence and technology don't mix

[@JanBeta]

Absolutely true. It's really sad what people do to their electronics sometimes. :(

[@retrogamer33]

I've recently got a boxed Amiga A500+ with the A501 memory expansion module for £8, it just needs a power supply

[@MrRobbyvent]

savages!

[@JanBeta]

Definitely!

[@blackterminal]

Gary quit

[@Jobjoossen]

Aaaaamiiiigaaaaaaaaa (kzbin.info/www/bejne/inyanZ6sqNmYidU)