Buu Saga Gohan Vs Super Perfect Cell: Who Would Win?

Super Saiyan 2 Buu Saga Gohan Vs Super Perfect Cell: Who Would Win? ‪@LSMMIKE‬ explains that in this Dragon Ball Z video featuring the DBZ anime and manga.
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[@Oni64]

Probably equal in power, until gohan taps into a emotion rage boost.

[@Tylearned]

What😭

[@trojantony195]

Ssj2 is the result of the rage boost thats all he got

[@Rieky22]

⁠@@reptilian_geneticisthuh? He wasn’t stronger than ss2 gohan at all he was close in power

[@R.E.factor]

@@reptilian_geneticisthere do you get that scaling from? SPC didn’t turn SS2, he got a zenki. In fact when he came back in the manga, Gohan wasn’t scared or worried at all sensing his power. He actually looked at him like ‘bring it on you bitch’. It wasn’t until Gohan got injured that the fight took a turn.

[@R.E.factor]

@@reptilian_geneticistall that is implied with that statement is that he received a power up. A multiplier of 2x is not stated. And it’s a bad assumption. It’s a zenki, which is also stated by cell. We know zenki boosts allow a Saiyan to increase their power to match the enemy or threat that nearly killed them. If Gohan held back his power as a SS2 then Cell had an increase to that level of power Gohan was at. Cells boost could be 1.5, 1.7 or whatever. Hell it could be 2.5 if you believe Gohan got more than the 2x boost with SS2. Either way, SPC still wasn’t stronger than Gohan at full power.

[@TheReaperofHades]

I think the Budokai games had a cutscene where SSJ2 Gohan battles Super Perfect Cell before he kills Trunks, indicating Gohan was still more powerful than Cell even after the Zenkai boost.

[@CharadeTV]

Can't take game lore as truth, they make shit up all the time

[@StevenJones851]

idk the games are non Canon through

[@jasonrivera3222]

@@CharadeTV Yeah like Goku before training in the hyperbolic time chamber fighting again semi perfect Cell and winning 😂

[@derekclawson5707]

Dr Gero is an amazing scientist and it's incredible he created several experimental fighters that can wipe out ssj but a sick mind and he passed that down to Cell as a creation especially. While Cell was induced with alot of useful copycat techniques he also had a lot of glaring mentality flaws thanks to all the personality traits infused in him including pride, ego, narcissistic personality disorder etc.

[@Vazio3]

You could argue he got those flaws from the androids he absorved. He started to become more confident if not cocky after absorbing 17. His fear when Vegeta was pounding him was similar to how much 17 was fearing cell after getting his ego shattered.

[@hanshawks5088]

He should ran for president.

[@shilohwehrmacht2947]

​@@Vazio3he also got them from Frieza

[@masonschroeder7846]

He was an average fighter, but he was a brilliant scientist

[@83jbbentley]

Cell was just a more polished fighter with no experience just bioengineered to be the best. The Gohan vs Dubura fight was a watermark to how sloppy his instincts had become. I think Super Perfect Cell would overcome him as Cell knows how powerful he is.

[@kuru-yami9416]

If they fight and no villain stuff happens like cell kills videl or something , cell wins, if cell decides to be foolish and do just that tho, gohan wins

[@83jbbentley]

@@kuru-yami9416 I could see that.

[@ChrisAtheist]

​​@@kuru-yami9416I say pre Kaioshin planet Cell Stomps Gohan but post Kaioshin Planet SJ2 Gohan would stomp Super perfect cell

[@MrSunglxzz]

not a stomp but med to high difficulty for cell, Gohan is not powerless just rusty.

[@RrraverCrow]

Do you think that Super Perfect Cell would be able to match the power of SSJ2?

[@NoBrakes219]

Please, never stop doing those cuts for “VEGETA’S TECHNIQUE” lmfao

[@paulmajano]

I love this gag, stupid Funimation shitty script 😂

[@philw3039]

I think the fight could go either way, but I do lean towards Gohan for a couple of reasons. 1) I'm in the camp that the story implies Kid Gohan was significantly stronger than Cell even after he became Super Perfect, so Buu Saga Teen Gohan should have still been at least even or a bit above SP Cell in terms of power. 2) I've seen it argued that Cell has better fighting sense and has more techniques, but he has couple glaring weaknesses. Like Vegeta and Frieza, Cell is both extremely arrogant and temperamental. He only shows good fighting sense when he has a substantial advantage. We've never really seen him fight someone on equal terms (not counting his final beam struggle with Gohan). The closest we got was Goku and Cell was still holding back. When he was losing against SSJ2 Gohan, who was way stronger, Cell quickly lost all fighting sense and immediately tried to power up as much as he could, abandoning all strategy and technique. Fighting someone more or less evenly I could see it going two ways: Either Cell starts to get the upper-hand, becomes cocky and makes a crucial mistake or he gets frustrated that he can't gain the upper-hand and becomes increasingly reckless also leading to a crucial mistake. Either way he's prone to giving away the fight. 3) For some reason, people sometimes state Cell would get a zenkai boost either from coming back from the dead to fight Gohan or recovering from injuries during the battle. You don't get a zenkai coming back from the dead. Cell got the zenkai boost because he never died, he was just reduced to his core. Cell's ability to get zenkai boosts from battles is basically negated by his regeneration. He never gets "seriously" injured enough to receive them. Likely recovering from an attack that reduces him to his core is the only way he can get one. 4) This part is mostly speculative and a bit headcanon-y but hear me out. While Teen Gohan is overall weaker than Kid Gohan I think he might have some advantages. He does seem to be more mature and has lost some of the timidness that was holding Kid Gohan back during the Cell Games. Kid Gohan was extremely daunted by his own power and seemed only to be able to use his full power while enraged. While that made him a very formidable fighter, it also made him much more prone to being clouded by his anger and losing his judgement. By the Buu Saga Gohan seems much more comfortable using his power consistently. His fighting skills are rusty, but he's able to fight with a clear and level head while still making full use of his power (mostly). In that regard, I think this version Gohan is well-suited to fighting Cell who tends to attempt to either take advantage of his enemy's pride (Vegeta) or their lack of confidence (Trunks) with mind games. Teen Gohan should be able to avoid both those traps and focus on the battle.

[@lorenllbj88]

Love this!

[@donovantheplayboy599]

This is an amazing response, and very well crafted

[@runin12]

first of all gohan is NOT stronger than spc that is just blatantly wrong, not only did spc literally one shot gohans arm and yes he was ON guard but its stated in several guide books that cell is the strongest once he appears post zenkai, not only that you may say well gohan killed him, gohan was getting amped by goku during the beam struggle, now that we know spc was stronger that instantly kills the fighting sense argument, and with gohan being outright weaker than his cell saga counterpart, cell is most likely stomping him with ease

[@SRT_DRE]

@@runin12 you really typed a whole paragraph only to be wrong 😂

[@Darien4life]

@@runin12 you can't be that stupid. Gohan was fighting at 50% of his power during that beam struggle and still obliterated SPC. SSJ2 completely outclassed him at every point after ascending.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

I wish the Cell Games were like a actually tournament like Perfect Cell would have the Cell Jrs before he destroyed the Ring then the Cell Jrs would fight the Z Fighters one on one at a time

[@justinarzola4584]

Yeah it was very one sided in cell's favor, I wish there were other fighters besides cell to make it more like a traditional fighting tournament,cell's ego meant he only wanted others to fight him to test himself and not have fighters go against other fighters.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@justinarzola4584 and yet he only fought Goku and Gohan

[@willdiesel8431]

​@justinarzola4584 Bruh what?

[@justinarzola4584]

@@willdiesel8431 what part of my comment you didn't understand?

[@willdiesel8431]

@justinarzola4584 the pointless aspect of it all. Everyone understood this was a fight for the fate of the Earth, there was not only no time for shenanigans but well all know the Sayains would take over. I mean duh.

[@Vegito_Fanpage]

Adult Gohan absolutely mogs Cell. Full power SSj2 Gohan in the Cell Saga would have been incomprehensibly more powerful than even Super Perfect Cell, as seen by him literally stating "But I only have half my Chi left" and still beating Cell's Solar Kamehameha.

[@michaelcutler6118]

Cool, to know that you are a fan of the Boondocks cartoon it is a nice choice that they choose the anime Aesthetics for it.

[@ericbowers5968]

A real possibility is that cell doesn't give gohan anything to rage over. You gotta remember he has cells from fighters such as piccolo tien and frieza so he'd probably fair much better through strategy this time. He isnt even phased as much by his pride as a lot of the Saiyan's cells he has. I think with the blessing of hindsight and the ability to potentially train with cell juniors or clones would really aid him. Plus I've never liked the flakiness and chicken heading gohan has always exhibited.

[@starboys3407]

Tbh this time, I feel Gohan would go for the kill against Cell,I don't think he'd rush in,however buu arc gohan did lose some fighting sense. he was so quick to try to stop Babidi and Dabura, a shame he didn't immediately kill Buu though when he was Ultimate.

[@ldungey6972]

I can't believe no one has ever done a What if Vegeta never Rushed Cell - So we could see how a normal fight would have taken place

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

I'm giving it to Cell. Yes, I'm willing to bet that even with the drop in power that Gohan had during the 7 years between Cell's defeat and when he began going to high school; SS2 Gohan would still be above Super Perfect Cell. However, not by a huge margin... Gohan's lack of fighting sense will prove to be a handicap. Remember that not only was Cell Saga Gohan at the peak of his fighting senses (3 years of training with Goku & Piccolo + 1 year of Time Chamber training with Goku), but Goku fought Cell FIRST for the purpose of seeing Cell's fighting style/how he moved so that Gohan had somewhat of a blueprint to go off of when it was his turn to battle. Cell with the huge power boost after blowing himself up, Instant Transmission and his other bag of tricks including regeneration; Gohan would get stomped. Yes, I know he did SOME training with Goten to get his fighting senses back and body used to combat again before the tournament. However, you must remember that a good chunk of time was spent teaching Videl and Goten to use their ki in order to fly. From there, he and Goten did do SOME training but it really wasn't enough to get Gohan back in top form. Even Goku pointed out how sloppy Gohan was fighting against Dabura. I'm sure if Gohan put enough power into a single attack; he'd win. However, I think Cell would take the fight. We still don't know if Goku was comparing Dabura to Perfect or Super Perfect Cell. If it WAS S.P. Cell then Gohan is done for because of the sloppy job he did trying to keep up with Dabura!

[@perfectcell_21]

Good man.

[@justinarzola4584]

I think Gohan would win because a ssj2 is just naturally stronger than cell, even when Gohan was one handed when having that beam struggle with him he still killed cell( albeit with a distraction from Vegeta and motivation from Goku in otherworld).

[@sethdiedalongtimeago]

@@justinarzola4584 no. it goes both ways.

[@Valientlink]

Did you not watch the whole video? Gohan really didn't lose much power, he wasn't full power until attacking Buus shell because he wasn't rage amped like as a kid. I don't think Vegeta really understands the situations well and how Gohan can't just go full power whenever he wants to like Vegeta or Goku, pure bloods could.

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

​@@justinarzola4584see that's the thing though Gohan was at his best the moment he cut loose once Cell was distracted. Was Buu Saga SS2 Gohan stronger than one armed-han in THAT moment of the beam struggle? Honestly, I don't know... I mean we could look at the Kamehameha SS2 Gohan fired at Buu's ball and compare that to the one fired at Cell. I think Cell Saga Gohan still has the superior power. As Vegeta AND Goku stated to 'Adult Gohan'; we don't know what happens if he snaps/once you let loose there ain't nobody that can beat you. IMO the only time in the Buu Saga we ALMOST saw Gohan cut loose was when Videl was getting her skull crushed in her tournament match...

[@loveclubfilms1634]

Love your videos bro!! Keep ‘em coming.

[@Ozymandias1111]

My biggest issue with this debate every time is that I think people confuse Gohan holding back with him being uncomfortable fighting seriously. He had the power, but he needed the wisdom. That’s why goku’s words were so pivotal.

[@tomfoolery7797]

My biggest issue is that people think dabura is stronger than cell, even though it's just stated that he's around cell's level which might indicate him being weaker or stronger when comparing just power levels, and that when goku states dabura is tougher than he thought he's nor referring to his power level being greater than he thought but just the fact tat dabura can use magic which makes the fight trickier.

[@SsjGssjGogeta]

Friezas "version of the destructo disk" is called (DEATH SAUCER) one of my Favorite of his attacks!

[@RealTalkOrWalk]

Man another fight I’ve always wondered who would’ve won is actually one of my favorite fights in the entire series from all the way back in Dragon Ball, & that’s Tien Shinhan Vs Jackie Chun aka Master Roshi. Chun threw the fight but later said that Tien might’ve won if they had kept going but Tien said that Roshi was holding back which we see if definitely was bc he never went to his super buff full power form. I’d love to see you do a video about this fight bc I really don’t know who would’ve won but if I had to guess I’d say Roshi/Chun would’ve but would love to hear your thoughts on this.

[@DynastyZwarrior90]

Tien would win since Roshi was shocked by Goku's power against Krillin, which wasn't even his full power. Tien wrecked that same Goku at the start of the final match. Buff form wouldn't work because it lacks speed and the Kamehameha doesn't work against Tien, stated by Roshi himself.

[@RealTalkOrWalk]

@@DynastyZwarrior90eah that’s true about the Kamehameha but Roshi still didn’t use his Lightening Surprise technique or any of his other crazy techniques. That’s partially why I love this fight so much bc it’s just straight up blow for blow, locks, body slams, & just a straight up brawl between two refined pros. New generation Vs the old & it’s one of the few fights where we actually see the bruises on each fighter & you can hear the impact of every punch. It was actually a pretty realistic fight for Dragon Ball (besides the few energy blasts & the after image) which is rare but it’s another thing that made this fight so raw.

[@DynastyZwarrior90]

@@RealTalkOrWalk I don't think Lightning Surprise would work either. Tien had a lot of techniques he didn't use as well like the four witches, volleyball technique, dodon ray etc. Tien was just too strong. Yeah it's one of my favorites as well, good action and also character development.

[@joelbell6075]

Imagine in Cell had decided to use the Tri-Beam when attempting to kill Vegeta: he would have killed Vegeta AND Gohan, when Gohan jumped in front of the blast!

[@Thromaz]

Next video: 11 year old Gohan vs Dabura

[@ShadowDeist]

will you do dabura vs cell vs bojack next

[@TreFKennedy]

Love the boondocks reference Mike, dope vid too

[@Bohemian0522]

I think we need to take into account the fact that Cell was just a more masterful fighter. The fact that he learned the instant transmission technique be seeing Goku use it 3 times (1st time as semi perfect cell as Goku saves Tien and Piccolo, 2nd time at the tournament when Goku blasts his Kamehameha, and the last time when Cell self destruct and got teleported himself) showed if he is at a similar power level as his opponent, he can outsmart them with his skills. We never really saw super prefect cell unleashed his full power in the manga.

[@gurgus]

The only power level I care about these days is this man’s beard. Look at the marvellous thing!

[@stephensperr1379]

If a Cell Jr attacks Videl it’s all over

[@shadowsansvii8715]

Another great video as always, keep up the great content.

[@jaredt2590]

SSJ2 is a set multiplier. You can raise and lower your power in the form by changing the amount of ki your base puts out but the amount of power the form puts out is the same.

[@cinemamadness6920]

Cell wins because: 1. Gohan needed Vegeta and Goku's help to beat Cell the first time 2. Gohan is said to be weaker than he was back then 3. Unless Gohan blows him away in one blast, Cell will outlast him seeing as how they're so close in power 4. If all else fails, Cell could blow himself up or the Earth and then regenerate

[@collinleivas9605]

A longer answer, basically I think Gohan wins more often than not. The Daizenshuu says Gohan when he first appears in the Buu Saga had not lost any power from back the Cell Games, later it says World Tournament SS2 Gohan is weaker than Cell Games SS2 Gohan due to not having access to his anger and not training: basically base to base Gohan is the same but due not losing his fighting sense and not being able to tap into his anger, his current SS2 is below the SS2 that killed Cell. Gohan then goes on to fight Dabura who Goku says is as strong as Cell, even tougher/stronger after seeing his magic (whether it be raw power or magic Dabura is a bit above Cell), in what the Daizenshuu says is a fairly even battle and the DBZ Dragon Box: Dragon Book Z Vol 6 says to be a difficult battle despite Dabura clearly possessing inferior power, meaning Gohan is either equal-ish to if not stronger than Dabura but again, he doesn't have the same fighting sense he once did so is struggling. I think Gohan with superior power should be able to win but due to being rusty Cell might be able to pull out a win unless Gohan taps into his anger in which case Gohan stands 3-0 against Cell.

[@rjshadow4321]

Vegeta is the type that sees wanting to fight strong opponents is as something to be proud of so saying Gohan is weak as he went from playing around with Cell for fun to only doing light training and not wanting to fight is him becoming weak.

[@TheBloodyNights]

Much like the fight with Radditz showed a person's power level can drastically increase to well over double their initial output when firing a ki blast. So while Dabura didn't attempt to block it or Ki clash he probably didn't have a lot of time to do so. And of course Supreme Kai would feel that enormous Ki as potential that Gohan could get even stronger, possibly strong enough to defeat Buu. However I think Super Perfect Cell would edge out Dabura. Cell has a plethora of techniques at his disposal, and is frankly a more skilled fighter than Dabura is when it comes to combat. Also I think it would be much harder for Gohan to deliver a decisive blow to Cell that would vaporize him completely. Personally I think Buu Saga Gohan could potentially lose to Super Perfect Cell. Gohan would have a slight power advantage. But his fighting sense would be lacking, and only the strongest of energy attacks would be able to put an end to Cell. As anything less than a Game Ending Kamehameha would most likely be dispersed with 17's ki shield, and even then that kamehameha might potentially be dodged by an instant transmission.

[@xxSandt21xx]

I love that we always refer to Scattershot as “Vegeta’s technique” 😂

[@derekclawson5707]

Although the whole sword thing with Trunks was cool while it lasted too it really isn't a necessary thing to do let alone train with. He's a freaking ssj, he is more powerful than lots of creatures and beings in the entire known universe. He should have been focused on his own hand to hand skills, meditation, chi blast training to amplify greater heights while signature blasts than playing with a sword 🙄 Against a powerful enemy with great durability and or with abnormal regeneration capabilities a sword is going to do jack shit.

[@Durakken]

I think you are mistaking Goku saying that Dabura is more difficult to fight that he is more powerful. Magic and ki are not the same thing and so you can have characters that are not powerful at all, but are difficult to fight... For example Guldo, who has a PL of 10,000, but poses a significant issue against Vegeta, before his buffs and we know that 2v1 1.5x Guldo is about equal with his power, but 2.5 to 3x easily handles Guldo. This means that Guldo is effective 20,000 BP, while real is 10,000 BP. Now apply that to Dabura. He might have SPCell BP but with his magic he is Effectively 2x SPCell BP. Though, the technique makes all the difference.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

I think this time cell would mostly because Gohan might have confidence issues

[@justinarzola4584]

He can get a rage boost if cell pushes him though.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@justinarzola4584 yeah but it's small burst, and cell has the Kaio-Ken

[@justinarzola4584]

@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD kaio ken isn't as strong as super saiyan unless it's stacked on top of it like what Goku does in super, and cell isn't a biological Saiyan so he can't be Super Saiyan, kaio ken wouldn't make him any stronger when he probably has more powerful attacks.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@justinarzola4584 actually yeah it's stronger, cell can multiple Kaio-Ken at least by 20 if not higher

[@Valientlink]

​​@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Cell never used kaioken lol. Probably because Goku only used it x4 on Earth and given he uses a ssj like power, stacking them could do serious damage to his body or kill him. But yeah it's never even stated he has that technique and he would've used it if it were useful.

[@TehWhiteTiger]

I think the real question is who would win between SSj2 Goku/Vegeta in the Buu saga vs Cell saga Gohan.

[@isaaccuevas1717]

I’m going to say cell,gohan was having trouble with dabura, someone on the level of cell,and struggling,vegeta was saying he was just toying with gohan.that along with cells regen,ssj2 teen gohan was just that much stronger that he could beat him with one arm

[@Valientlink]

He wasn't fully powered against dabura though. I feel like half these comments are coming from people that didn't even watch the video or just skimmed it. Given most of these were posted like moments after upload I'm assuming most are just answering by the video title, yourself included

[@ViltrumiteIsRite99]

⁠@@Valientlink Didn’t watch the video? Dude, it’s just him recapping a fight we’ve already read and watched. This vid is just milking nerds for views. Gohan is 7 years rusty, and is a fraction of his teen self. Super Perfect Cell is washing.

[@ghostdog1758]

If we're talking mystic Gohan. He stomps PC.😮

[@Ma1n033]

Gohan was already ahead of Goku and everyone else he just pushed even farther at SS2. It took Vegeta damn near 7 years to reach SS2 "Allegedly".

[@clintongillespie4811]

Personally I think this is perfect form cell own unique version not only is it purple with electricity but it's gigantic

[@chadthomas7820]

It would actually be a recreation of Goku v cell but gohan would be ss2 and cell is basically ss2 as well but I think gohan would eventually win

[@derekclawson5707]

I'll put an injured Gohan at least twice the power of SPC still. This doesn't include a healthy two handed Buu Saga Gohan with a better mindset with opposition. The maturity difference is what will pull Gohan the win. For the most part he kept his cool with Dabra despite the rusty fighting form. Cell is prone to having fits against equal footing opposition or someone better than himself and can easily be weaponized into Cell screwing up more often.

[@sirsir9665]

I really would of liked to see Majin Vegeta fight Gohan. Gohan getting pissed and hitting max power

[@ralegade7710]

I forgot if Dabura was closer to SS or SS2 in power, but his spit technique was incredibly effective. If Gohan could keep up with that-even if that means performing poorly- I think he has Cell in the bag.

[@davidbowerman3089]

Dont forget kabito overflowed his energy after spopovich and yamu drained his energy.. gohan said he felt stronger than he did before that

[@fuckthisstupidasshandleshit]

Dabura was far above SSJ2 Gohan.

[@davidbowerman3089]

@@fuckthisstupidasshandleshit i agree, especially since he didnt train for 7 years.. and even goku said to him before gohan went to buu's egg to remember what he is fighting for, and even before that vegeta after the dubura fight even made comment on him

[@ralegade7710]

@@fuckthisstupidasshandleshit I’m referring to child Gohan. He would’ve bodied Dabura. Pre return to earth Gohan in the Buu saga was super weak.

[@derekclawson5707]

Piccolo fared better in the hypersonic lion tamer because he could materialize clone copies of himself for physical training and his mind / ki training is incredible with it. He gained so much in such a short while on King Kai planet just by simply meditating the entire time even though King Kai openly shown him team effort is also just as important than solitude and meditating by showcasing how much the others improved by sparring. In preparation for the Androids his gains were even more incredible and he was just about on par with Goku and Vegeta. Piccolo is always a base fighter and really doesn't need transformation anyways. He explained to Gero while busting his can that he has the upper hand because he is very great at amplifying his base ki into multipliers like a ssj transformation.

[@charlessoto1792]

SS2 Gohan was obviously nerfed when he defeated Super Perfect Cell on account of the injury he got while protecting Vegeta. By Buu Saga he is nerfed by not having been training. It is not unrealistic to think he could STILL defeat Super Perfect Cell, which gives validity to Gokus statement upon seeing Dabura fight, that he may be stronger than "what I thought" (referring to when he compared Dabura to Cell).

[@williamzeo2493]

They don't say that Gohan was weaker, just that he stagnated, the "rage" boost would apply even at kid Gohan, without it he won't would beat Cell even in his golden age, so there is no point into giving kid Gohan a rage boost and none for adolescent Gohan. Adolescent Gohan would beat Cell without a doubt, instant transmission means nothing since Gohan already know all his techniques.

[@FunNHonesty]

A video on how strong is Cell Saga SS2Gohan vs Buu Saga Majin Vegeta and SS2 Goku? Love your channel.

[@sirlottawin]

Do Majin Vegeta vs Teen Gohan

[@clintongillespie4811]

Perfect form cell barrier I think deserves the title perfect barrier

[@brandenapexo604]

I see it as this Super Perfect Cell-low SSJ2 tier SSJ2 Teen Gohan- Mid SSJ2 tier Buu Saga SSJ2 Gohan-low SSJ2 tier Goku vs Majin Vegeta both High SSJ2 tier

[@jplaya2023]

Vegeta (who we knew was still only a ssj1) seen gohans ssj2 power and laughed ot off. Vegeta wasnt afraid of fighting gohan in the tournament knowing he was a ssj2 while he still had ssj1 (shown to us in the manga we did not know he had ssj2)

[@adylutai10]

Vegeta had SS2 in the Buu saga, just that he was not as powerful as Goku. That is why he needed the Majin boost.

[@cruelwraith2games926]

I don't know this fight could go either way feel like super perfect cell would be a more difficult fighting then Dabura super perfect cell has more techniques and Instant Transmission and I'm pretty sure cell would have a massive zenkai boost if he was revived

[@banshotenin1178]

While Cell is an awesome villain, no villain come close to as sadistic and violent as Frieza. Buu & Cell were literally just created and thust didn't truly have a free will of their own. Both Buu and Cell had traces of good in them thanks to the people they absorbed or had as part of their genetic make up. Frieza was just pure evil and was also the most "Out of our league" villain in all of Z.

[@arjaytraquena5316]

Frieza is an idiot

[@The_Dev]

Cell wins until the Kai unlocks Gohans power, it's stated Gohan gets weaker after Cell because he didn't train. The only point Gohans gets more powerful is when his power is unlocked by the Kai and is able to go toe to toe with super buu at that point.

[@clintongillespie4811]

I wish people would stop saying Vegeta's technique rapid Ki blast it's a basic technique that everyone can use Vegeta is that the one that uses it the most

[@d-_-b8558]

Before watching the video: my answer is Super Perfect Cell. Buu Saga Gohan (pre-Ultimate Gohan) was weaker than he was against Cell, and he had less fighting instinct. Super Perfect Cell almost won if Gohan hadn't pulled out absolutely everything he had (at his then peak.) On top of the fact that Super Perfect Cell has all of Frieza's and the Z fighters' techniques, regeneration + zenkai boosts, and a vendetta... SPC wins this for sure. I would even give him the win over Dabura but I think that'd be closer.

[@Jiron127]

You'll have to be specific. Gohan pre z sword was weaker. Post z sword he was stronger than cell games as a ss2.

[@d-_-b8558]

@@Jiron127 That's why I already said in my comment (pre-Ultimate Gohan.)

[@ViltrumiteIsRite99]

Cell wins, no question. If Adult Gohan was a fraction of his kid self, then it’s a stomp.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

Why didn't Cell use th Kaio-Ken

[@anthonymurchison8035]

I wondered that as well

[@justinarzola4584]

​@@anthonymurchison8035 I think toriyama just forgot Kaio-Ken was a thing after he made Super Saiyan

[@dreamcream3738]

Likely because Cell didn't have the ki control for the Kaioken. The Kaioken doesn't just require having a tough body to be able to handle the recoil, but it requires incredible ki control. The main reason Goku didn't use Kaioken in conjunction with Super Saiyan, even Grade 4, is because Super Saiyan is all about letting ki run wild. Using both in conjunction would cause the Kaioken to go out of control and destroy him. Even when he was using Blue, Goku pointed out that if he screwed it up he would have killed himself. Cell, his aura being the key giveaway, is in a constant state of Super Saiyan. While his body would certainly handle the recoil, he wouldn't be able to handle a Kaioken self destructing on him.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

@@dreamcream3738 well he does have his healing factor so he shouldn't be worried about his body being damage

[@dreamcream3738]

@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD We've seen how catastrophic letting ki go out of control can be, both with Broly in Movie 1 and Saganbo in the Moro saga. Cell was lucky to survive his own self destruct technique, which compared to a Kaioken meltdown is a more controlled explosion. A Kaioken meltdown could easily destroy Cell before he can actually heal himself; his regeneration was an active power and not a passive healing factor.

[@ironreed2654]

Did Android 17 actually use his shield in DBZ? I only remember it from GT and Super.

[@ssj4ssbgogeta957]

He used it against Piccolo’s hell zone grenade.

[@tomfoolery7797]

I don't think dabura is stronger than cell, goku mentions he is around cell's level, so lower or above and when dabura uses magic he says dabura might be tougher than expected but I don't think that's referring to his power level but rather just that it's going to be a trickier fight due to dabura being able to use magic. So even if dabura is on the same level as cell, cell would most likely still win due to all the techniques he has and his ability to regenerate basically nullifying dabura's spit attack if he just rips off the effected area and regenerates it.

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

The fact that gohan can go SS2 at will shows can’t be weaker

[@snicklesnockle7263]

Vegeta said gohan was stronger as a kid. Don't even have to watch the video.

[@digitaladventurer2142]

If we're talking about before his Elder Kai awakening then Super Perfect Cell no question. Gohan stopped training cold turkey for basically 7 years and spent a month (even less considering Videl was over and he was trying to hide his and Goten's abilities) just getting back into basic fighting shape but both his power and mental fighting abilities were still far below his Cell saga levels. Dabura probably could have beaten him even at SSJ2 due to these problems but since he wanted to collect energy for Buu's revival he purposely kept his power down to around Gohan's so the fight would drag on

[@jplaya2023]

Gohan gets his ass beat around earth. Cell obliterates

[@AkeenFreysAndracos]

17:22 iwould check.the japanese version, maybe he states so because he can use only one harm, so can output only half of the energy in his kamehameha? Just wondering

[@1sonjohn44]

LSM would win........ Always.

[@larrycoleman9513]

I want to agree with reptilian_geneticist. In theory you are correct suppressed perfect cell was stronger than ssj teen gohan. So naturally full powered perfect cell would be far above ssj gohan. Ss2j gohan was far above full powered perfect cell. The only problem is cell didnt transform he just got a zenkai boost and pushed his power further, he didnt transform with a multiplier. So i can see him still being weaker than ssj2 gohan. Another thing cell was distracted by vegeta but not completely distracted to not put all his energy in to the blast like gohan did. I do believe gohan ssj2 is special because it has a-rage boost to it. All in all super perfect cell beats adult gohan ssj2

[@sirsir9665]

I think Cell was Ssj 2 power when he came back but wasn't as strong as Gohan because Gohan can just get pissed and unleash more power. Cell was probably average Ssj 2 OR he absorbed Goku's power along with his Zenkai boost as he did with Goku's skills.

[@gohanson27]

Great video as always. Gohan would still stomp Super Perfect Cell. SSJ2 Gohan was far more powerful than people give him credit for. Well explained in the video. However I have to push back on Gohan being SSJ2 vs Dabura. Reason 1. Gohan most trained transformation is Master/Full Power SSJ, the same look and transformation when he was at the World Tournment watching Videl getting beat up, spiky hair, gold aura, one bang, no electricity. Now look at his transformation when he was facing Kibito. The transformation was more "radical", untrained, more aggressive. Reason 2. Babidi. Babidi decided to go with Vegeta due to no damage from Dabura to Gohan. Example, Gohan powers up to SSJ2 at the tournament. They steal his power to provide to Boo. Dabura and Gohan engage in battle, he was not fighting at a level beyond SSJ which is why Babidi decided to go with Vegeta. Vegeta and Goku fight and produces more power to revive Boo. Gohan was only SSJ2 at the World Tournment in front of Kibito. Gohan was SSJ2 when he pulled the Z Sword. That's about it.

[@LSMMIKE]

Thanks. I actually made a video about this subject if you haven't had the chance to see it. You can find it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3WvYpt6oNWUgNk

[@Xainfinen]

​@@LSMMIKE I second what Gohanson27 said. Just because a guy was said to be around X in Power Level doesn't mean that he's going to be automatically at that Power Level when he fight. From what we can see from the fight Dabura probably isn't SSJ2 level and even if he was, he never went full power to warrant Gohan going SSJ2 as well. Gohan was SSJ, the aura make no doubt of that. He wasn't angry enough to go SSJ2 and double tap Dabura, the later simply needed the fight to last to siphon as much energy as possible, and was obviously not fighting seriously. This doesn't necessitate any dialogue to be understood nor is it up to speculation because it can be observed. That can be understood contextually as an observer and it's the basis to understand most of DB, it happened many times before this moment and it shouldn't cause confusion to anyone without bias. The problem are people taking inconsistency as canon, things out of context, and making logical fallacies. This make the ones who use critical thinking and don't have any dog in this fight pull their hair at how jarring some of these rationalisations are. This as always been my problem with this fandom especially when most of us are grown ass adults now, we're supposed to know and think better but I'm always disappointed. People rather twist things to fit their narrative than just accept what is actually discernible, that's why we have weird theories that are doing everyone a disservice. Here you're just doing the same and actually enable such behavior. You took 2 comments that are not explicite but treat them as such to support your argument, you state Dabura being around Super Perfect Cell's level & Kaio Shin comment on Gohan's power as if he meant that he was more powerful than Dabura at the moment you specified. You're not wrong but the way you use it as an argument is disingenuous. We all know that sensing someone power isn't always based on their active state, there is a depth to their Ki, and that's before any narrative convenience. But you take a vague throwaway exposition to not only build your argument on, but modify it to your convenience to support it when it doesn't work contextually. This manga as proven many times that things are not as rigid and more subtle regarding that exact subject, but not subtle enough to be up to that level of interpretation. At least not to the people with a modicum of discernment that don't have a problem with the narrative.... The event on paper reflect that, and actually do not support your arguments whatsoever. They're unreasonable if we have to modify a bunch of things to make them work, and literally ignore what is plain for all to see. It's sad that people would rather gauge if a character is in SSJ2 based on their hair bangs than the obvious easier other cues, or are unable to figure it out from a narrative perspective. Because the fact that he isn't doesn't suit their vision of the event, and they cannot come up with a pragmatic and logical reasons to make sense of what they see or to compensate for the lack of writing consistency. There is a number of segments in this manga that warrant this kind of reaction but Dabura vs Gohan isn't one of them. Sometimes the simplest more pragmatic answer is the right one, even if it's out of universe. It doesn't require any extravagant arguments that need a number of other unrelated things to be modified and interpreted differently than what they are at face value to make sense of it all. That is nonsensical and more akin to mental gymnastic than reasoning. So please be a better voice in the fandom.

[@mazerinthemage2395]

But do you have any other videos that talk about any of this? 🤔 :p ❤️

[@elij2003]

Lol once again Pretty common misconception here cell doesn’t need those cluster of cells that make his core to regen in general only to regen from basically nun as long as his core is unharmed he can regen from even a single cell but just half his body getting blown off he can regen normally he doesn’t need the cluster of cells for that that’s why he just came back even after his head was gone when goku did his kamehameha so that’s not a plot hole

[@Lost_Avenger89]

Gohan doesn't have the rage amp that he did 7 years ago. Everyone is comparing Gohan to his rage amped SSJ2 so it is possible that he isnt that much weaker. Perfect Cell was probably around SSJ2 level(assuming he is double the power of Goku which is kind of implied). Super Perfect is probably his version of SSJ2(stacked on top of his already SSJ2 Goku power level) and yet it is implied that Cell saga Gohan would have little to no issue handling him. my guess is that his rage amp was probably 4-5 times whatever his SSJ2 power would normally be(which him only having "half" of his ki when starting the beam struggle would kind of make sense). If Vegeta didnt get himself almost killed, I think Gohan would have probably beaten Cell down. I think Cell's only out would be an instant transmission strat(either ambush him from behind or teleport him into space or something). If this was a Cell that came back with a zenkai and fought buu saga Gohan, then it is probably a toss up and would depend entirely on whether or not Gohan can tap into that rage amp before Cell blows himself up. If this is just Cell saga Cell vs Gohan then it is probably a moderate difficulty win for Gohan(Cell has outs).

[@hexkwondo]

If he is Mystic Gohan, he owns Cell.

[@xxdeathxx9836]

I personally think cell would win. Gohan and cell are roughly equal in power, but Cell has regen ,more abilities, plus he is not rusty not to mention Gohan lost to dabora who is close in power to super prefect cell.

[@nelsonmorfeu]

You da best!

[@paulerxx]

Vegeta straight up says Gohan is weaker than he was against cell. I think Super Perfect Cell has him.

[@maniacslap1623]

After watching again, Gohan WAS far ahead of Cell. He did kill him with half his power, our Gohan despite being weaker, at full tilt could probably get him. We can’t understate how that last beam struggle went down. If we take it all on face, half of Gohan’s power WAS losing until Cell got distracted. Without that he probably wins. Meaning adult Gohan probably getting clapped if he was weaker.

[@imagerydiversions6127]

I dont think he was ssj2 against dubura usually the manga can at least confirm ssj2 that the anime can not for instance when vegeta fought kid bu there is a difference between anime and monga. In gohons case both anime and manga match up and shows that gohon was ssj. Why he couldnt go back to it after clearly doing it at tournament is that after he got his power sucked away by babis henchmen he was not able to tap back in for some reason.

[@clintongillespie4811]

Super perfect cell what obviously Crush 7 years later Super Saiyan 2 Gohan if there's no interference

[@jirensentry7609]

Well, is it the Super Perfect Cell the first resurrection or 2nd? I think Gohan is at a massive disadvantage going against either one. If he is the Gohan prior to reaching his Old Kai Potential power, i got him losing. The Super Perfect Cell that Gohan killed, if he were now Gohan's new opponent, Cell wins. Gohan would need to rage out to win, but that's no garuantee. However, Mystic Gohan obliterates Cell!

[@snake909]

Death doesn't give you a zenkai boost. So he would be at the same strength as the Cell Games. Gohan after Z sword training easily wins, if you think before that training it's debatable, then sure

[@quatromanthefourth4413]

couldn't finish the vid, not enough plugs

[@JonDoe-uq1mk]

18:14 Gohan has 6 fingers

[@146zigzag3]

I'd say Cell. Power wise they're relative with Cell and Gohan's fighting instincts were rusty and being designed to be the "perfect" fighter Cell would take advantage and take it.

[@mike0133]

I think the Buu saga's Gohan lose, i don't agree with people saying that if he get angry he would win. Training plays an huge role in Dragonball. Every new transformation and power up we get, it's obtained after training, also the Ssj2 and also the modern Gohan Beast, the anger his only the thing that give Gohan confidence and freedom about k1ll1ng someone. The Gohan that was fighting Darbura was saying something like "i am angry but i can't still beat him" so Dragonball give a great sport-artial marts lessons about how discipline is more important even than talent.

[@Valientlink]

Gohan never said this or doubted he could beat dabura. You're thinking about what he said before attacking Buus shell. Once it was hatching was the only time he let that anger unleash because he knew if he didn't at least try everything he knows could be gone

[@AussieDadAndrew]

Cell would because he is the better fighter

[@MichaelAChristian1]

If the androids were weaker in future why not cell? You think androids train? No. So no reason to think cell would not get weaker as well.

[@Mvfasalways]

Gohan was always stronger then cell. He just wasn’t tapping into all his power. Once he does. He literally beats cell with one arm

[@icegangsta5161]

He'd have to go ss3 to secure the dub

[@I-own-your-feelings]

Anyone thinking Cell was stronger or on par needs their electronics taken away...

[@Veed.l0]

If Gohan doesn't get the job done after hanging with h2h and weakening him before going in with a big blast to completely disintegrate him, Cell might recieve another zenkai. This could go either way. This isn't even to mention Cell's advantage of z fighter's techniques and instant transmission. This may be more difficult than Dabura.

[@Corvolet5]

It's funny cause in Dragonball FighterZ Cell mentions he can't feel anything of Gohan's past power when they meet again. I know the game is not canon but it's still intriguing.

[@marcuscrowell6964]

​@@reptilian_geneticist ​There's so many assumptions here that I don't know where to start Neither one is EVER pressed in the fight between SSJ Gohan and Cell. Gohan never tries hard and neither does Cell. The only thing to scale that off of would be Goku and Cell's fight, and Goku's belief than Gohan is stronger than he is. Super Perfect Cell was NOT stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, not by a longshot. For one, when he comes back, Gohan is completely ready to throw down with him. He can sense Ki, he knows (vaguely, at least) how much stronger Cell is compared to before. He literally destroys him with one arm broken. SSJ2 Gohan was still leagues above Super Perfect Cell.

[@Veed.l0]

Keep in mind also, Gohan's decrease in power and complete lack of training and technique.

[@justinarzola4584]

​@@reptilian_geneticist super perfect cell was no way stronger than ssj2 Gohan,equal definatly but not stronger.

[@marcuscrowell6964]

Perfect Cell being stronger than SSJ Gohan is an assumption Super Perfect Cell being stronger than SSJ2 Gohan is an assumption Daizenshu are "official" but definitely not canon There's just nothing in the manga to back up these claims. We never see an all out fight between Perfect Cell and SSJ Gohan, and we never see an all out fight between SSJ2 Gohan and Super Perfect Cell. You can say "head canon" all you want but I'm not even making any claims here, I'm just saying yours are unsubstantiated

[@risingred1241]

If Gohan had never gotten hurt, the fight between the two could've been another Goku vs Frieza with Gohan winning a Kamehameha clash. Just how I feel

[@chimuoma390]

If You Play The Boss Hack In Supersonic Warriors 2,Boss SSJ2 Kid Gohan's Kamehameha Does Way More Damage Than Super Perfect Cell's(Mania Boss)!Adult Gohan Can Win Easily As Well By Simply Getting Above Cell,And Spammin' Gekiretsuhadan!Gohan Wins As Either A Kid Or Adult IMHO!Have You Played This Game?!It's A Literal BLAST!!!!!

[@futuredirector23]

gohan outclassed cell in every way and after goku died gohan had 0 reason to let cell live! it would of been over alot faster

[@fuckthisstupidasshandleshit]

@@futuredirector23Intellect, Techniques, Attachments, etc.

[@fuckthisstupidasshandleshit]

@@chimuoma390And if Cell teleports?

[@gibsonflyingv2820]

@@futuredirector23 Wrong, if he outclassed him he wouldn't have mortally injured him so badly.

[@RowdyKage]

You outdid yourself with this one, “Adult” Gohan is beyond slept on even to this day

[@Valientlink]

Preach. Very good video and solid points. Most of the commenters I don't even think watched the video. They just came in to give their opinions right away

[@willdiesel8431]

Lol @ Adult. He's 16 by the time the Buu Saga starts. Also that version of Gohan out of all others fell ass backwards into his powers.

[@RowdyKage]

@@willdiesel8431 you clearly ignored the quotation marks beside adult just like you clearly ignored any details about Gohan

[@willdiesel8431]

@@RowdyKage yeah sure buddy. Tell yourself whatever you need to in order to save face. Goof Troop.

[@Valientlink]

@@willdiesel8431 Jeez, what crawled up your ass? And besides, everyone calls 10-11 year old Gohan teen Gohan, so it only makes sense to call him "adult" Gohan and 16 is a young adult, he was nearly 17 because Japanese schoolyears start in April, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't even 11 fighting Cell but about to turn 11.

[@AlldeLucas]

Great job! The way I see the only moment Gohan went all out was with the last Kamehameha, and considering he had only one arm to channeling his power, we probably didn’t see his max at that time.

[@MegaMachiOnline]

I’m surprised you didn’t use the fact that Goku didn’t think Vegeta could go SS2 until he did it

[@Marcus_shawn]

That part let me know ssj 3 wasn't thought of at the time because if he was "holding back" to protect Vegeta than why was he surprised that Vegeta could go ssj 2

[@TheKingOfRooks]

​@@Marcus_shawnbecause he simply didn't know that he could do that?

[@keithfallin]

Bro I don’t know what you’re talking about but I’m pretty sure Goku knows Vegeta can go ssj2 when Vegeta has stated more than several times that he can take out Dabura

[@OtherDude]

It could be that he was surprised by how strong Vegeta's ssj2 form was. After all, he did have a majin boost.

[@AlldeLucas]

As I see the “losing half of his power” moment of Gohan, is like he probably didn’t lose any significant amount of Chi but, at the physical level, he lost the capability of channeling that chi on the fight. And yes, most probably the biggest lost came from his neuro-semantic state.

[@Aquilenne]

That makes a lot of sense from a grammatical standpoint. Power =/ Energy.

[@StevenJones851]

This makes Sense Considering he still beat Cell with one arm

[@collinleivas9605]

I personally see it as he lost half of the power he was using, but as we know he has more power than what he thinks he does, so it technically isn't half of his true full power.

[@sirsir9665]

Gohan's ki was cut in half because his self doubt as Goku said. To harness ki to the fullest you need to be in the right mindset and have confidence

[@jakepaulisgod]

Baseless assumption, that's not how ki works. Losing an arm doesn't arbitrarily cut your ki in half. If that were the case then why didn't future Gohan, Vegeta, Piccolo, Cell, or Tien never mentioned anything about their ki being cut in half when they lost/injured their arm? Gohan is known for having confidence issues, it's apart of his character. Gohan's arm injury caused him to have a mental nerf and made him think he was at 50%. Goku later shuts down that theory by convincing him that he wasn't really down to 50% and it was all in his head. After Goku tells him this Gohan.

[@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD]

It would be a way more even fight this time around

[@BrianAwesome]

Movie timeline gohan, would smash Canon Super Perfect Cell.

[@UniVS427]

Yeah M10 SSJ2 Gohan would destroy SPC easy

[@mike0133]

@BrianAwesome Broly fanboy saying BS in order to convince people that Broly is stronger than Cell 😂 i love the DragonBall community ❤.

[@BrianAwesome]

@@UniVS427 EXACTY ! Speaking of which, I'm itching to do a fan video/fiction.. On what if the canon and non Canon Z heroes, switched places. Like what if M10 Gohan switched places with his canon self (b4 world tournament) ? What if m5 Goku switched places with canon Goku during the 3 yr time skip ?

[@UniVS427]

@@BrianAwesome do all of em

[@TouringWolf42]

Even if Gohan is rusty, he shouldn't be weaker than super Cell, as Gohan's power depends on his emotional level more so than by how much he trains.

[@thatoneguy3253]

@@reptilian_geneticistohan beat cell soooo keep spewing nonsense

[@JayKay-on2gr]

If that was the case. Gohan would have gone ss2 vs raditz. His training is directly correlated to the amount of his potential he can bring out.

[@UniVS427]

@@reptilian_geneticistGohan’s ssj2 power wasn’t just a 2x boost. If that was the case, FP perfect cell would’ve been on par or a little stronger than Gohan and we seen what happened in that fight so…

[@ojpickle5923]

​​@@reptilian_geneticist who is to say that Buu saga Gohan wouldn't get enraged and beat cell through the anger amp. After all Dabura didn't even try to block angry Gohan's blast he immediately grabbed Babidi and jumped away

[@Valientlink]

​@@reptilian_geneticist tell me you didn't watch the whole video without telling me you didn't watch the whole video. Oh wait, your comment lol

[@Eric-gp3hi]

I would say Buu Saga Gohan would win against Super Perfect Cell because even though Gohan had gotten rusty over not training during the seven years between the Cell Arc and Buu Arc he still has all that power inside him he just needs motivation to release all that power.

[@realBatman-89]

That's assuming something happens to make him loose his temper. A what if. Straight up fight super perfect cell wins easily. Higher power level. Sharper fighting skills. Mastery of the special techniques of all of earth most powerful warriors. The ability to instantly produce offspring as powerful (or some percentage) as you. Some the frost demons he can breathe in space, from the Saiyan's he grows more powerful after recovering from serious injury, and from papa piccolo he can regenerate as long as a single cell remains intact (android upgrade). This casual response I just typed while pooping should be pinned.

[@Valientlink]

​@@realBatman-89 the only earth warriors cells he has are Vegeta Goku and piccolo and technically none of them are really from earth. The anime makes it seem like he has cells from others. He doesn't have Gohan's, the very cells that annihilated him, even though he said so in the anime. He has Goku, Vegeta, piccolo, Frieza and King Cold in his cells

[@blaketindle4703]

Gohan was WAY weaker at the beginning of the Buu Saga! Vegeta says so! Super Perfect Cell I think is much more powerful than Dabura because of Goku saying to the Supreme Kai “Dabura’s not that tough, Cell was tough!” and Gohan was struggling against Dabura.

[@xmgentertainment]

Is my favorite moment of debora is in other world when he's picking flowers with bulma and chi chi

[@Valientlink]

Likely Gohan. He simply powered into ssj2 at the tournament and as mentioned likely suppressed some as to not blow half the place up. Either way he wasn't rage amped like as a kid. If Cell killed people he loved and cherished like Krillin, Goten or Videl though, he'd probably surpass the power when he was a kid. Gohan snapped at 16's death and the idea that his friends will die if he doesn't let his power run wild. So it really depends what Cell does or threatens to do. Given he's got the genes of 2 Saiyans, especially Vegeta, he doomed himself the entire time, trying to awaken Gohan's power and then waiting until Gohan was ready to fight back one armed to fire off his Kamehameha. Even Goku who knew Gohan hadn't kept up on his training reninded Gohan to fight with his emotions and he'd never lose to anyone. Buu is a different story because nobody was prepared for him and ssj3 was basically retconned and is a pretty bad form anyway as we could see just how horrible the strain was and that Buu's regeneration made it hard to keep up. Regardless, Goku still had that much faith in his son's ability to generate tremendous power when he fights with his emotions as you showed. And since we're basically just not even thinking about Buu here, I think Gohan is more likely to win.

[@1KQ_]

Early buu saga Gohan was weaker than he was when he was 11, vegeta makes note of that leading up to the dabura fight. His ease into ssj2 is noted but that doesn't indicate he's kept that form as strong as it once was.

[@Xainfinen]

Perfect comment. SSJ3 is a bad form because the writing never developed it. Since then plenty of fans who can't think for themselves and lack imagination just took that as canon, and never tried to develop it. But they did make shit tons of moronic theories to justify bad writing tho.