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[@caseyjones7832]

I know the exact feeling of “wanting to buy a nice book” lol. Happens to me every payday.

[@nathanares5233]

i guess Im kinda off topic but does anyone know of a good website to watch new series online?

[@TimelessComicsandCollectibles]

Felt this 😂

[@andre9845]

I would have flipped my shit if I spent that much for a possible scam, good job coming out on top with the whole situation

[@krazycool12]

So grateful for this video. I've been buying slabs for the past several months and haven't even paid as much attention to the book as I should have before storing them away.

[@ebaymandavid723]

I sell comics on eBay and recently had a comic book writer and artist buy a CGC graded 9.4 copy of Evil Ernie. He cracked the case open and then demanded a return of the book as he said he already read this issue in one of those omnibus compiled anthologies. I denied his return. He challenged my denial and held up my $455 payment to me. I had to send in proof that I don’t accept returns on my sealed comics. I won my case with eBay eventually and got my funds released to me. Great stories Tom & Jeff! 🤘👍

[@robertobenites7360]

This is why I check the cgc number to make sure it's legit first then inspect the hell out of the book when it arrives.

[@lennywright5655]

Dealing with a fake 9.8 is probably frustrating but, getting a free Hulk #181 ultimately should’ve been worth the stress.

[@chrischreative2245]

Yeah, I thought marvel should have put a better artist on Wolverine #1 at the time for such a high profile book. That’s why I wasn’t into it at the time.

[@jesnyc146]

@@chrischreative2245 honestly, despite the fact it's a #1 issue and his first monthly title, I hated this book. No uniform on Wolverine, re-imagined him as a street-level hero and changed his name to patch. I disliked everything about that book (I know people love it, to each their own). I sold mine, and would do it again The 1982 limited series #1 with the great Miller art will always be my "superior" Wolverine #1

[@kenshiro7960]

The scammer got scammed lol I love it

[@markfostercrtgamer3201]

"Buy it off line" threw me for a second lol

[@michaeldellosso7445]

Thank you for sharing this Tom and Golden Age Guru! It was great meeting you both in San Diego last month!

[@johnremizeztomilloso158]

8:55 I love how he zooms Jeff's taking out the tape on the slab! 🤣

[@Gordypow]

One of those moments we all needed to appreciate lolol

[@Mark-xi8dg]

Great info. I just started collecting slabs, so this is something I’ll be looking out for!

[@stevenschaller1672]

Never have this problem with the good ol raw books!!👍🤔🤣

[@STASHdadtv]

I have a story on a raw book that I got screwed over

[@stevenschaller1672]

@@STASHdadtv It is possible online,but never in person!

[@Ransolo626]

books are meant to read.

[@STASHdadtv]

@@Ransolo626 they are not just books though

[@daviclar867]

There's always a chance of slight color touch and once you buy you should own a black light and look at that book very carefully, both inside and outside the cover to see any deviation.

[@williammedina8682]

CGC needs to release grading notes for free and E-Bay needs to Boot these bootleg peddlers from causing any more thief

[@MetalBum]

This

[@MetalBum]

And photos online

[@user-yf1cz8cl6c]

Marvel and their fans have always been frauds and POS. You all pushed so hard on those shit Marvel movies, just to raise values. But, all those Marvel movies were just like their comics...Boring kiddie trash.

[@ntva3490]

Great story! Bought a one ounce Canadian gold coin on eBay ten years ago that was fake, but I had no idea until I tried to resell it. Had to deal with the cops plus eat the $750 I paid for it cuz too much time had gone by to trace the original seller. Buyer beware always!!!

[@davidramirez882]

Guru! Glad you got your money back and got to keep that book. In the end.

[@oliverortiz8507]

Thanks to you both for sharing your stories.

[@caseyjones7832]

Wow! Jeff basically with a free Hulk 181 in a 9.0? Talk about coming out smelling like roses!

[@Keyser-s0ze361]

Wow!! People are crazy!!

[@uncannyswag8703]

Crazy stories! Thanks for sharing, always things to watch for

[@David-zj3bp]

13:58 I had a similar experience with eBay. Bought a long box of comics from a seller in Tennessee. The box was in the Memphis Network Distribution Center (it has 1.2 ⭐ rating in Google Maps BTW). I contacted eBay after almost 30 days of the box being at the distribution center. I was issued a refund, thought I was never going to see the box. I also notified USPS lost packages 📦 department. One day in September 2021 the long box was delivered at our door 🚪. I was able to keep it along with all of the comics. It's interesting how eBay doesn't ask or require the buyer to return the package after a refund.

[@thecomicassassin]

Crazy stuff. The Guru made out like a bandit on that one, lol.

[@tonymoretti2347]

Stuff like that only happens to rich people damn!!!

[@Tonehawkdawg]

Broken CGC case that opens wide enough to pull out a comic and replace it with another one = scam. Happened to me too from Ebay. I returned it immediately to the seller. Seller had put a "7.0" with 5 long spine ticks and a small stain on the cover into a 9.6 CGC case. Do not accept a broken CGC case from any Ebay seller. Return it immediately to the seller.

[@michaelrice1184]

Insane. Thanks for calling this out. Never would have imagined that this sort of thing happened.

[@kilgoretrout5009]

I always make sure to pull it out of the ugly poly bag, examine it and place it in a mylar.

[@potishen]

I am always taking chances buying cracked slabs and reholdering or regrading but always ask for pictures and more pictures. You never know out there, but this is a great community that supports each other.

[@figuredrawing4912]

I've gotten scammed on eBay before. I have gotten a refund from eBay while not having to send back said NOT as described item because the seller initially refused my return.

[@georgeleos8219]

Just using u as a platform. Thinking of postin some of my collection on Instagram. 🤔🤔🤔

[@robertruhilcampbell7361]

Tom, I found the ebay sale of your book and am just curious why you didn't hit the seller with negative feedback? Feedback is how the community polices itself and we rely on Feedback to know what sellers we can and cannot trust. I purchased a raw Batman 179 in NM/NM+ 9.4 minimum condition. I checked the pictures and all looked good so I won the auction. When I got the book there were numerous colour-breaking spine ticks that were most definitely not in the pictures...at least not until I increased the magnification on the areas to 500% and then I could finally see the definitive photoshop marks. The seller had photoshopped the spine defects out of the picture. The book had been sold 2 previous times by the same seller but when asked about it, I received no response. You can bet that I opened a case against him and hammered him with Negative Feedback. Unfortunately, ebay is still allowing him to sell. Tells you what ebay's priority is.

[@Criner05]

What pisses me off about seller ratings is that the percentage only accounts for the past 12 months.

[@fnyourmom3064]

I assume he didn’t hit it with negative feedback because he’s going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt and assume that he’s not the one who attempted to slide one past him and that it was done before the seller had acquired it? Just a guess

[@chazfat1542]

Wowwww! Sorry to hear about the suspect books and grades but glad you guys were on top of it!

[@philayling4398]

WOW SOME PEOPLE YOU NEVER KNOW

[@rickbrown24]

Great video. Very educational and sad at the same time.

[@TOALMA305]

Wow.. thankyou for the info....

[@agurhythm19]

😯 crazy, glad it worked out Jeff. And hopefully things get resolved quickly Tom

[@jimwojton7369]

$1,000 is ridiculous!👎👎

[@daviclar867]

You couldn't give a Wolverine #1 away for free back in the day, nor Eternals #1, nor Ms Marvel #1, or She Hulk #1!

[@burgerkinginfrance]

someone just threw me a wolverine #1 roughly 9.4 as an extra thank you on an ebay order like days before it started taking off. im just stockpiling books at this point everything is becoming worth $$$ graded.

[@davidbarr9718]

No doubt.

[@mattskirble6845]

I got Eternals #1 like 3-5 years ago for 5 bucks.

[@jayblack7495]

Yeah, no doubt. Remember when Amazing Spiderman 252 & 361 were common issues? Remember when "The Death of Superman" was nearly the death of D.C.? Remember when everyone who collected had multiple cover variants for Spider-Man Torment issue #1? Picking up Wolverine's 1st appearance or snagging a clean copy of Moon Knight Issue #1 was once fairly easy (and reasonably affordable.) I'm also beginning to suspect that every single McFarlane/Spidey book will begin to fetch a small fortune in the next few years when savvy collectors gobble them up and finally finish adding them to their permanent collections. The saturation phase of the early/mid 90's nearly drowned the entire comic industry. Now, suddenly fans & collectors are starting to recognize what a powerful paradigm shift that particular decade truly represented. Comics would not be what they are today if not for the edgier artwork and more adult-driven narratives born during that unconventional wave of non-traditional artists. I know this much, when my copy of Sleepwalker Issue #1 becomes a $100 book, I'll know I've finally come full-circle. Welcome to the Renaissance of "Special Limited Foil Embossed Collector's Edition" comics. Buckle up! This is about to get bumpy...

[@mattskirble6845]

@@jayblack7495 I recently started to collecting early image books (Youngblood,Wild C.A.T.S ect.) Just because a lot of that stuff isn't being reprinted.

[@angeluvsvid]

Lmao that " See you Sucker " took me out 😂😭

[@itzXdavid247]

Love you guys ^_^ thanks for the amazing content

[@martynsimcox5177]

Great video and 2 interesting (but frightening) stories. I’ve had a few issues when buying books off EBay, but nowhere close to the money you guys were talking about. We all need to share our stories to help each other be more informed in the future 😎👍

[@robgranitosfannypack2685]

None of it is true though.

[@bigwillcomics9968]

Tom you are awesome but you don't buy off line from eBay you buy on line everything from the internet is getting it on line as in on the internet.

[@pigfart666]

it must have been real stressful with that amount of money out in the air but at lest the guru got that 181 for free in the long run

[@jamest1955]

That’s sneaky dirty by that seller.

[@Locrum]

I have a 9.9 from the 90’s on the old label, but I’m too scared to get it reholdered. I feel like if they regraded, you could just stare at it wrong and it would drop to a 9.8.

[@marcusbelfrey7786]

If you don’t want comic collectors to get flim-flammed NAME THE PERPETRATORS!!! I remember asking about Comicxposure a year ago and all I got was crickets

[@EndofDays213]

It’s probably either a fake book or dude tried to sell you a slabbed book while getting a full price.

[@tonyschneider7231]

I just received a 9.6 cgc comic. The sides of the case are so loose and open, that you could easily slip any comic in or out of it. The book looks 9.0, and not 9.6. I'm returning it to the ebay seller.

[@RoB9009]

Tom staying extremely cool n collected about this whole shenanigans. Crazy story bout that hulk 181

[@michaelchristopher3600]

Glad i saw this. Made me dig mine out to check and found I had a newsstand also. Should I send it in if it looks more 9.6-ish?

[@rcaw1968]

I thought of a reason to put tape all the way around. Tom actually mentioned the possible reason. In the older cases you could crack them open slightly, but not all the way. And I have had CGC cases that do this. I could understand someone wanting to put tape on the edges to keep any dust, dirt, or hair from getting inside the case. Now that I think about it, I may want to do that for my older cases. However, I would use masking tape instead of Scotch tape because it is easier to remove.

[@bryanbelshaw7725]

Moral of the story....don't buy expensive comics in a slab on the internet.

[@EscargoT80]

Definitely not worth taking the risk.. awesome shirt as always my man!! 🤙

[@darrensucksatgames]

My man got a sweet Spider Gwen variant behind him distracting me. ❤

[@arohila]

Yikes. Good to know. I'm not buying any more comics on Ebay that have only one picture of the front and back. Seems like they are trying to get away with something without closeups of all the corners.

[@EmpirePreciousMetals]

Crazy how fraudulent some people can be. Very good stories, Tom. Appreciate your content. Keep it up!

[@briannorman952]

great episode!

[@willlewis6310]

I just got my Avengers Annual #10 Newsstand graded by CGC, and the label says Newsstand on the label.

[@user-kz9ot4zv5e]

I have a copy of the newsstand Wolverine #1 that I bought at a greeting card shop when it was released. I believe many people overlooked this issue because Wolverine had been the cover feature of Marvel Comics Presents, so they failed to realize how important the starting of the ongoing series was. Sort of lost in the shuffle at the time. But I was buying the first couple of issues of most titles back then, so I got it.

[@AntonioSantos-gt6le]

Now I have to go check my slabs 🤞

[@12centcomicsandcards]

I guess it’s worth it now lol damn hulk 181

[@roywatson7916]

Great video. I've fortunately had decent dealings with buying on Ebay until recently. I got a Last Ronin #2 ratio variant that came in damaged. It wasn't packaged well and USPS I believe damaged the top of the book. I also ordered a Voices #1 Dell'otto variany that got lost but thankfully arrived late. Like 2 months late.

[@apokcomix9661]

Thank you for this episode. Very informative. I've had my share of a few shady sellers on EBay. So Comic Tom - you are getting reimbursed correct?

[@michaelfarnsworth2426]

Great show

[@frankmorrell4975]

Wow man! Sorry that happened to you guys. The 181 ended ok after the stress but that’s some scary shit!

[@MikeFromMTL]

great video !!

[@kennethpratt5694]

Great video it does raise a question "do you ask the seller for pics to see top and bottom and sides of a graded book going forward"????

[@chrischreative2245]

I do. I ask to see the back of the book or closer up image of area of cover if needed. Most times they send a pic but some don’t but I ask.

[@chi-tn]

I think with the recent boom in the comic book industry, these incidents will be more common

[@comicbookgallery4431]

Crazy Wolverine stories, glad you both had it work out in your favor.

[@georgenieves6594]

This is what makes me soo leery of using eBay the shenanigans are real and there is always people out there looking to scam.

[@agentmobius8458]

I just receieved a CGC slab with a plastic chunk missing from the side seam, an obvious prying attempt. Not sure if the book inside is legit or not. Online seller made no mention of the damaged case. It's graded at 9.2 and the cert # checks out on the CGC website. Will wait for a suitable custom label to be offered before submitting for reholdering.

[@jeff_superscript]

I bought a PGX 9.8 Wolverine #1 (direct edition) from the ongoing series for an amazing price several months ago on eBay. I received it and inspected the slab and the slab could be completely opened from the bottom. I contacted the seller for a return or discount since I figured the book was essentially “raw” at this point. The seller apologized, gave me a full refund and told me to keep the book! Amazing!!! Definitely not a scam that time. I took it out and sent it to CGC, and realized that PGX’s labels are part of the sealed plastic that the book is in inside of in the holder. The CGC label is separate from the book. I really wish that the CGC label was sealed with the book like it is for PGX for extra fraud protection (can’t believe I had something good to say about PGX 😜).

[@MrEi8trak]

Ap

[@aaronrankin1092]

Could the tape around the edges be for protecting the edges of the case from scratching if someone were to have leaning on a bookshelf?

[@BladeRunner90]

Another one ☝️ love the show

[@loringbush3319]

How are you supposed to see the stoch tape? When the plastic case is blocking you from seeing it.

[@DemzWonMusic]

Anytime ebay sellers tape bubble wrap around your items you know that shits gonna be damaged 😂

[@BloodFromSpain]

That's not always true lol some throw some in there for extra padding.

[@DemzWonMusic]

@@BloodFromSpain no I'm saying they tape bubble wrap around items to conceal damages because alot of people will leave it like that thinking itll keep it safer when they store it.

[@SlayerHobbs]

I recently sold my copy of Wolverine #1 and it was CGC graded (9.4), I had it for quite a few years and I never had any problems with the case it was in. It’s sad to see people that are out to scam people in this hobby. Same goes for sports cards.

[@TheAdrianAPM]

That' craziness! Both of you lol.

[@marty35]

Just bought a comic book on ebay cgc 9.8, seller was selling 2 of the same ones, unboxed it with excitement only to realize the case had been cracked open (i could even see the marks the tool made to pry it open) , very sus. Returning it, comic inside looks nice but doesn't look 9.8... pretty sure it was swapped.

[@yodadeePS3]

I can see some one taping the edge to protect the case if it is displayed on the wall with the black graded frame holder

[@tonymiles273]

Had an Ebay experience where I won a cool high grade bronze age book that was an auction that ended with a really low price. ( can't remember what book or grade it even was now) The seller sent me a completely different book in a low grade . I reached out and the seller apologized and said he sent my item to another person and their book to me. It happens, I've done it. Anyway 3-4 months in and I still didn't get my book after sending the other book back. Finally involved Ebay and got my money back. Seller then sent me an angry message saying I wasn't patient with him. What makes me suspicious is the seller tried to get me to keep the book he sent instead the one I won . That, and the ridiculous amount of time involved makes me think that the seller felt the auction price ended too low and wasn't willing to let the book go for that. Anyway, thanks for sharing and reading this.

[@Boxingbear]

That is exactly what happened.

[@lordoflard1207]

Now I'm a little paranoid I just bought ASM 410 cgc 9.8 on eBay it's coming from Canada. I want to go buy a magnifying glass look that thing way over when it comes in the mail.

[@rexharrison6827]

Fascinating. And somewhat depressing. I have a direct edition copy of that Wolverine issue just sitting in a box along with others in the series. No idea what its grading would be. I have a low opinion of the entire grading system, anyway. We're talking comic books - low quality newsprint for the most part, with not the best cover stock, either. They're the very definition of disposable. It's not like we're assessing bank notes or rare stamps or first edition Chaucer's! It's no wonder their spines are cracked, their pages yellowed, their colours faded. I have probably thousands of boxed comics from around 1983 up through till 2018/19. No idea how to get rid of them (not living in the USA), and wavering between selling every one of them for a dollar each (regardless of potential value) or just binning them! The latter option is looking increasingly attractive the older I get! 😂😂

[@stevenschaller1672]

For all you know it may just be the cover stapled to an Archie book!?!🤣🤣

[@RSEFX]

What does this term "slab" refer to? (I've lost track of some of the terms in the comic world since I stopped collecting back in the early 60's, though I have picked up a few of them informally over time). Thanks.

[@jonathansoko1085]

When i eventually become the supreme ruler of earth (its inevitable obviously) i will BAN ALL comic grading companies from existing since they are assiting in ruining collecting by jacking up prices on things that have no buisness being so expensive.

[@aznsketcher]

*F-yes!* *EFF all these damn stupid slabs*

[@liemokid]

Moral of the story: CGC has shit cases, that are easily tampered with and they longer release the notes. Sounds to me that a new grading authority needs to take over the market.

[@russellsegui9215]

Apart from a couple clipped coupons (silver age spiderman stuff mostly unfortunately)I've been pretty lucky. Hopefully all gets taken care of asap

[@spydorweb2008]

I need your help on info if the 2 Kiss Marvel Super Special presented as Replica on Ebay i recently purchased. Is there known fakes? If yes. Are these collecrible or worthless Xerox copies? Do I contact seller first or report to Ebay.

[@setser1234]

I did this with tape just to add in my mind an extra layer of protection this could be someone like me just new to the hobby and not knowing

[@TheComicsDen]

I still think hulk 181 and ASM 300 are the most undervalued books STILL . Goodluck getting a AF15 or hulk 1 or ff1 in a 9.0 for under 20k lmao .

[@acesontilt77]

How do you constantly confuse buying something ONLINE but you say you bought it OFFLINE? OFFLINE meaning you purchased local or face to face. You got it backwards homey.

[@georgeleos8219]

Agreed. Now let me lay some street smart on ya. Know your product. I have purchased sunglasses that I thought were real and they were but the guy did a bait and switch. Lesson learned. Playa got played. Bought a Jordon Alvarez signed rookie card on eBay. List 150. Offered 75. Accepted. When revived. It is a business card with a very nice printer work. With sealed case and make shift authenticated case. Now that said. Also bought some comics off a auction on the tube here and never got them. And I won some stuff. But I say things and am very verbal. So kcuf them. Lessons learned. Not worth my time 2 get pissed. Just do better work. Now this is key. I have been the one who got over on someone. Bk I know more than u. Ex. Box of comics NM98 inside. Me pawnbroker. I will give u 20 for the whole box. Deal!! Me. Pull that comic. Similar deal scored Secret wars 8 newsstand!!!! Also traded all my first walking dead for my spawn collection I lost. 🥸🥸🤌🤌🧐🧐🤷‍♂️. But I got all my spawns!!! Well not all but the first 25 back. Side not spent 85 bucks on spawn comics today. So 2 explain my point. Tom, you are a voice in the community. If you expose there account u can make sure this does not happen. I do not bk I just deal with it. And if I were 2 care like a lot. Like real money. Bk I have none. Talking like above 300. I will find you if u screw me. I will take a road trip and document my voyage of asskicking. Would sell maybe Marvel presents weapon x. Set. Should cover most of the U.S. but that’s if I get pissed. Ah if Nick Cage only bought comics instead of houses!!!

[@michaelbauco6728]

I bought a slabed 7.5 Cgc starwars #1 and noticed months later there’s a crack in the casing. What would you do if you wanted it slabbed again. Crack the case and send t in and hope it’s gets graded at 7.5 or higher or if I send it in would they just recase it for me and put my label back in?

[@3.75istheway7]

Ya bud seems like they knew!

[@geek_solo]

If that is a 9.0 then I am being WAY to stingy with my own personal grading.

[@cemorenomoreno3163]

Guys! I bought that same copy of Wolverine about a month ago, I freaked out as it was my first CGC ever! would it be possible to get a video showing the different CGC cases used since they started? Maybe showing what they used to put on labels vs what they put now? I freaked out bc it had spaces on both sides that you could open (not a lot) but I thought they hat to be completely encased...

[@michaelirizarry4860]

As always, beware of scammers and scalpers, 'Nuff Said!

[@Large23collectibles]

That stinks if this is a fraud. I sell on Ebay and it's a shame that people would do thinks like this.

[@KJL71193]

How dare someone try to scam sir ComicTom! Shame on that person! Lol

[@Mr.Bonez2Go]

Where is a good place to buy graded books.

[@battlescarrshogun]

U gotta ask questions take close looks at the pictures the sellers have posted on their books. I takes the edge off just a bit before u click on that check out. also read their descriptions

[@pulpculturearts4274]

You guys had my sub at In the aeroplane over the sea On the shelf... I think if Jeff Mangum and misty from cerulean had a child they would be the most beautiful thing ever to be . & how strange it is to be anything at all.

[@Thisistheway-2187]

Maybe they put the tape on to protect the slab. Inexpierienced collector. If no scuffing present, to prevent scuffing on edges. Ive got slabs back at CGC to fix the label error. Luckily i cought it within the 2 week timeframe. Does the book look 9.8, would you grade it 9.8. Did you ask them why they did it?

[@kevinlambert2756]

Are you ever going to have it regraded and pressed for resale Hulk # 181. ?

[@herc20000]

I have seen perfect comics that have had tape put on the spines and around the staples for no apparent reason. Sometimes people do weird things, maybe because it was loose, or could be opened so they put tape around the edges, or they have swapped it like you possibly think. I didn't think cgc made notes about something being newsstand or not, unless it's changed.