BYRNA LE vs HDR 68 • LESS LETHAL SELF DEFENSE

[@AirgunAlley]

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[@benjaminnollen]

HDR 68 has a better intimidation factor. The price is 4 times lower and the benefits of different type of projectiles makes the HDR 68 the winner for me. Great video again!

[@rick31869]

Smart man !!!

[@AirgunAlley]

Thanks a lot Benjamin!! 🙏🏽🙌🏼

[@balsalmalberto8086]

Some pistols looks like pea shooters compared to this lol

[@EROS_ASMR_]

@@AirgunAlley Hi, I hope you're ok. Do you think you could get a Vesta PDW50 or the Umarex Hdp 50 (I think the Vesta is more powerful) it seems to me that they are more powerful than the HDR 68, used for personal defense, I am between those options or a Byrna SD but it seems to me that the .50 calibers are better. It would also be recommended to use steel projectiles, since when they hit the object they do not bounce like rubber ones, they can pierce vehicle windows without any problem. If I'm not mistaken, the Vesta is the most powerful out of the box, other than that they can be modified. Thank you.

[@jayquick6520]

Modded Umarex HDR 68 in the night stand, Byrna LE in my truck. In the presence of actual firearms it’s like bringing a toy to a gun fight but in any other scenario it’s like bringing a launcher to a any other scenario lol.

[@robertstevens9656]

Great demo of the two. Both would put the hurt on at 15 feet. I prefer the Byrna because it's easier to conceal for EDC and its mag holds seven shots. I wouldn't want to be hit by either weapon. You shooting range 3.0 has come a long way since you started. Your airgun and PCP evolution has been very helpful in providing the end user with lots of consumer information. Well done and keep it up.

[@GM-7777]

Just ordered my Hdr 68 from you. Thank you for helping me decide

[@AirgunAlley]

Awesome!! You’ll love it! I wish I actually sold these. I contacted the shop that I share the link to, to see if they wanted to collaborate with me… not even a reply! And I keep giving them sooo much business! Ah this world 😂

[@GM-7777]

@@AirgunAlley i received the gun today. I didn’t think i had to install the new valve. My bad. Do you know anyone who works on these? i think i would end up ruining the gun 😂

[@GM-7777]

@@AirgunAlley they should give you some percentage geez 🙄

[@AirgunAlley]

@gregf9412 or even just a reply to say “sorry, but no”! Just plain rude! 🤷🏻‍♂️ But oh well, the most important is that I’m sure you’re gonna love it 😎

[@GM-7777]

@@AirgunAlley well you were right I love it. It did come upgraded with the 16 joules which was great. Im your neighbor I’m in Fort Myers

[@KC_2112]

You forgot to mention that the Byrna is $400+ and the Umarex is $120 and can actually be modified for higher power and the Byrna can NOT be modified for higher POWER. Always enjoy your videos and I like that new setup you got there.

[@AirgunAlley]

That’ true. I try to stay away from mentioning prices as those often change with time. However I should’ve mentioned the big gap… Thanks a lot as alway my friend!

[@OvertIntelligence]

Did he mention one looks like a dinosaur should use it??

[@seanp9157]

Dinosaur???

[@mypetvelociraptor]

@@OvertIntelligence Because it’s a Revolver? Or because it’s orange and it looks like a child’s toy? 🤔 I would be much more concerned if someone pointed that revolver at me.

[@mypetvelociraptor]

It looks like something that would literally blow your legs off.😂

[@kelalamusic9258]

Love your new shooting alley. Nice touch with the distance markers. I'll take the Umarex 68 over the Byrna in a home defense situation. The Byrna seems to drop in power. A lot of work on your behalf getting through the move and setting up for this video. Well done!!

[@AirgunAlley]

Oh man, thanks for the recognition! Moving, working, setting up the alley and making a video all in one week was… hufff! But we did it! Haha Thank you so much my friend! Like many pointed out, as I should’ve done in the video, the Byrna is better for concealing. Def more compact. The HDR 68 more something you want to have at home. Or hanging from your saddle 🤠

[@GM-7777]

Love my 16 joule 68, all do do this amazing channel

[@JackofNothingess]

Thank you Gian for giving a direct comparison for us at your new place. The Gnomes don't disappoint! Jokes aside, as ScaredyCatTV mentioned, the Byrna is a great carry option as the compact nature is more comfortable for EDC and the pull-pierce-fire is very handy in situations outside when you have very little reaction time. The HDR68 is better overall for home and places where you have the moment to bump-charge it before putting it to work, and the higher energy will do good LTL work for home before resorting to lethal. Of course, the HDR68 is a bit too big for on-body carry, so there are trade offs between the two. Finally, I do like your new place and the distance markers you've made at the range. Keep up the good work!

[@darrensmith8673]

Just ordered the Byrna LE in orange (black looks too much like a real pistol imo) and as a concealed option it's the better of the two, of course if you want to go full on Dirty Harry style then the HDR 68 it is. May just get one for that reason, "Do you feel lucky punk"!

[@bretthighbee]

I have both of these markers. The Bryna is fun for shooting round balls while the HDR is great for testing out all kinds of do-it-yourself ammo.

[@MWS67]

The HDR68 has the power but is too bulky to carry around. That would be great on the nightstand or in a glove box. The Byrna LE is a better option to carry outside your home or vehicle..

[@newCrysis]

Just getting ready to buy and these are my 2 finalists. Many thanks for this vid.

[@stetonwalters574]

I'm surprised they haven't come up with an air pistol that when you pull the slide back it punctures the tank. It would give you plenty of Leverage.

[@lordgarion514]

What would be the point though? It would have to be more complicated than hitting the knob on the bottom, and a LOT slower to do than just pulling the trigger. A neat trick, but on a self defense air gun, it would make it take longer to be able to use the gun. The revolver is a horror choice for self defense carry specifically because of how. Long it would take activate the CO2.

[@rick31869]

Pure genius , I am disappointed I haven't come out with that idea first , nice , very nice bro ! Excellent idea !!!!

[@stuart2500]

Good idea would like to see umarex bring out a under lever shot gun

[@lordgarion514]

@@stuart2500 A shotgun is just a rifle that doesn't have rifling. Why have an airgun with a smoothbore? They make shot shells for air rifles. Big bore rifle with shot shells is more useful than a smoothbore with shot, and no option to use pellets or slugs.

[@stuart2500]

@@lordgarion514 I ment as in the umarex hdx something like that as a under lever

[@dorecannon9640]

Great video, excellent comparison. I really like your new shooting range very professional , I'm jealous. When it gets cloudy and windy in Florida ,it's time to battle down the hatches.

[@AirgunAlley]

Haha yessir it is! And thank you so much! I truly appreciate your kind words!

[@kurt9994]

If you're not aware first strike has a new 50 caliber pistol in the process of being released now. It's called the Sicariis and comes with two 10-round magazines with the 12 g CO2 cartridge housed within. It has a compensator that's removable if you so desire. There is an adjustable FPS screw on the outside. Power out of the box and the ability to further modify it appears to be promising . It looks very similar to the Tiberius pistol. Thank you for your videos they are very informative.

[@MrMacavity]

Thanks as always 👍

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank YOU!! 🙌🏼

[@uncleremus64]

You're the best. This was great. Thank you. Nice new office and range. Did you and your family move? Best of luck!

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so, so much!! Truly appreciate it! Yes we moved (again!). Lost a beautiful backyard, but we now have a much better house :) Thank you again!

[@runerebel8441]

Great video and testing. Nice new range you got. Cheers from your friend in Norway 😃

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so much Maestro!!! Always a great pleasure to hear from you 🙏🏽🙌🏼

[@ScaredyCatTactical]

Nice comparison and great idea about the modifications to your range. Those 2 launchers couldn't be more different. If I had to choose between the 2 I would go with the LE because of the form factor. There are better options than either of these for high power and mods, but the LE fits great into the concealed carry category as is.

[@AirgunAlley]

Absolutely!! I completely left out the concealing “comfort” aspect, and you’re absolutely right. As always. Thank you once again for your great input… unsurprisingly your channel is always so nicely put together and greatly informative!

[@rick31869]

You are kidding right ? Lol

[@ScaredyCatTactical]

No. I find the HDR to be cartoonishly big as a pistol. There are definitely better options (not cheaper) for high power.

[@19hundoc47]

500 dollars for the LE, crazy. Or 150 for the HDR. And the price of the limited Byrna specific ammo and CO2 is a ridiculous. HDR all the way

[@Criticalmaze]

@@ScaredyCatTacticalWhat options are better?

[@terryholloway9930]

Great job thanks enjoyed I have a un Rex t4e I was surprised by this pistol

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so much! I’m very happy you did

[@kurt9994]

Thank you very much for all your testing. I believe the main advantage with the Byrna pistol is being able to draw and fire the same as a firearm. Obviously you wouldn't have the same power as a firearm. However, that ability could make the difference between life or death. I'm not aware of any other Less lethal pistols on the market that can make that claim. I'm referring directly to the ability to puncture the CO2 cartridge AND fire. Also, I've mentioned the following in other settings concerning the colors of launchers. If your state requires your launcher to be a vibrant color then so be it. However, if you can choose the color I would choose a color more typical of a firearm. Pointing or displaying what appears to be a toy could cause problems that you wouldn't encounter otherwise. Have you noticed actual firearms available in vibrant colors as well? Being a vibrant color doesn't mean it is not a firearm. Law enforcement does not have the luxury of determining the threat because of the color. Please be safe.

[@mypetvelociraptor]

279 views in one hour! Your killing it bro

[@AirgunAlley]

Oh man thanks a lot!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@halfcirclehranch]

I was just thinking about something with regards to shooting cans. At Harbor Freight Tools, they have magnets for around $5 with like 90 pound force. They're in metal bases, and with a hole in the middle for attaching with a screw. If you attach one of these to a board, and clamp it down to the table, it might hold those tin can targets in place pretty well.

[@AirgunAlley]

You and your great ideas!! I really need to check that out! You’re becoming indispensable to this channel, my friend, so thank you as always!

[@beezer2767]

awsome video the yard looks great congrats

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so so much!! 🙏🏽🙌🏼

[@henrik1205]

Great video as always :D Cool new location :D

[@AirgunAlley]

Thanks so much as always my old friend!! Hugely appreciated 🙌🏼

[@RafaelFerreira-b9f]

Desde 🇵🇹 Portugal 🇵🇹 👍 Congratulations on the new facilities. I honestly think that the Amurex T4E HDR cal 68 is one of the best weapons made, it gives you the power to fire five shots, to fire practically anything you put in the revolver's barrel, Amurex would put a barrel extension on sale like it did with the younger sister the Umarex T4E HDR 50, so this weapon became a good five 🖐️ shotgun. The Byrna seems to be a good pistol to carry concealed, but Byrna prices here in Europe are very, very expensive... In addition, here in Europe we have a wide variety of tuning for Umarex products.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hello my dear friend!! As always you give great input and value to my channel with your comments. Super obrigado!! 🙏🏽🙌🏼

[@rick31869]

Smart man !!!

[@Alphastarcar]

Awesome video, thanks for sharing!

[@AirgunAlley]

Thanks for watching! 🙏🏽🙌🏼

[@JHOFF111]

I dig the new set up, just ordered the HDR 68, really looking forward to shooting it, got some of those jawdroppers DKS 68. And a bag of something called 3 skull nylon balls, there's a bunch of ammo I want to get, im not very educated on them though, I wanted the Byrna le originally, but after all the reviews I've seen about the HDR 68 figured I'd try it, plus it's much cheaper! I got the 16 joules upgrade from a website u had on ur video, thank you so much for all your info I'm really enjoying all your videos very interesting, I honestly didn't know anything about these guns until last week now I think I'm going to really enjoy them, and hopefully give a little home protection if I ever need it

[@pinogatto3540]

So is the LE good for self defence?

[@kenhaynes4259]

Great video again and the distance markers on your new set up are a good idea. Personally don't see much difference power wise with both pistols so I think it will come down to personal taste...a good looking 7 shot mag fed or a big ugly wheel gun 😱 My preference is the Big Ugly because if I saw that pointed at me .... well nuff said 😁👍

[@rick31869]

Plus the money saved could go into upgrades for that badazz big ugly gun turning it into hand down a better more effective defense tool !

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahaha! Good point on the effect they each have when actually ponged at you! 👏🏼 And thank you so much!!

[@VinsaneOne]

Your attacker if he sees that gun pointed at him will also notice the rounds in the chamber. Some projectiles look exactly like the real thing spawning a think twice situation! Good chances are you can avoid conflict without firing a single shot.

[@rick31869]

you should see the umarexs i mod !

[@parabola8933]

I have a Byrna and an HDR 50. I'd much rather get hit by the Byrna. I have Z Rams in the HDR 50 which seem possibly fatal.

[@AirgunAlley]

🙌🏼

[@GM-7777]

Yes most likely 😂

[@robbydiesel9345]

Hope you get your hands on the grimburg gavel, between umarex and bryna id go umarex for price point and projectile options.. both pack a wallop though... alway great vids mr.miami one of favorite channels

[@robbydiesel9345]

congrats on new place too, looks nice looking forward to future vids

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so much Robby!! You know, I did contact Grimburg and they should be sending me a Gavel to test at some point. I’m much looking forward to it 🤞🏽 thank you again for your great input and heads up!

[@LessLethalOptions-82323]

Great test, and excellent new setup. The Byrna light ammo at 2.8 - 3.0g is just too light for confident personal defense. That is the same weigh almost as .50 cal rubber steel balls. Might want to see what the two would do with aluminum, rubber steel S type, and Riot balls PVC 9.9 gram balls. The Byrna le chief assets is it is one of the best conceal carry options, because of its size and has decent power for the first three shots if activated in safe mode. A.A.M, kudos, no one does it better. .

[@georgeaura]

You mentioned in your pros and cons about charging the air wouldn't you lose more air with the trigger pulling one than with the grip bump one? Or is all the air contained?

[@rick31869]

Spend the same money for Bryan getting a Umarex HDR.68 and you will have a much much much better defense tool .

[@AirgunAlley]

No the what happens is the first shot comes out at half power as the gun is simultaneously piercing the valve and pushing the projectile thru the barrel. If you instead pierce the CO2 by pulling the trigger while the gun is on safe, then all shots will be full powered. I made a few recent videos that show it all

[@georgeaura]

And since they say using Warner co2 shoots slightly better what about using hand warmers on the grips or wherever the co2 sits?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahah I live in South Florida… I don’t need any of that. But yes if you’re in a cold country, keep them in a warm place (away from heaters or fire obviously hahaha)

[@michaelmello9510]

Nice work 🤙

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you sir!! 🙌🏼

[@NuisancePanda]

Way to step up bro! 💪💯

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank so much as always my man!! 🙏🏽🙌🏼

[@skyfitcpt]

Thanks for a another informative video! Got my Byrna LE (black version) last week been my go to carry for less lethal fits easy with nice holster and combo between 3.6 grams nylon and max (pepper + tear gas) projectiles are devastating! Of course goal of less lethal is not penetration but rather heavy punch and deter attacker and as we see on a video you don’t want to be hit by ether 😂

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so much and very well said my friend! Can’t agree with you more :)

[@checkitout4740]

The NEW Range looks Great ! The HDR68 is Better suited for the Home with a Green Laser. The LE is Better for CC. 5 ***** Across the Board !!!

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so so much my friend!! And I completely agree with you!! 🙌🏼🙏🏽

[@airgunballistics1779]

Hell yeah Gian! Nice new setup!

[@AirgunAlley]

Thanks a lot my bro!!! 🙌🏼

[@onefm1]

Great video, thanks

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank YOU!! 🙌🏼🙏🏽

[@f.xavier1842]

Très bien ta nouvelle installation pour faire tes vidéos 👍

[@AirgunAlley]

Merci tres beaucoup mon ami!! 🙏🏽🙌🏼

[@sanfilmstudio]

Cool comparison! Looks like hdr is more accurate and has a more stable velocity

[@dorecannon9640]

Good comparison. And I really like your new location. HDR68. would be my choice.

[@MDHenry4]

Great test I like the ally 2.0 and the griffen I like the HDR68

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so much! Oh I miss that 2.0 Now we’re already at 3.0 and, well, I look forward to a 4.0 hahahaha not enough room here.

[@luiznogueira1579]

Hey Gian, the new Alley looks amazing! The distance markings were a great idea. We use metric in these parts😂, but still a very effective visual guide. It seems to me the Hdr 68 outperforms the Brna in every way--- looks cooler to begin with! It also takes all kinds of(the wide variety)of projectiles, which to me pretty much settles the score. Loved the Gnomes intro! It's way more fun than anything Disney's been putting out lately, seriously! PS: You mean Warhol never did any art based on SpagettiO's cans? Hard to believe...😢

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so so much Luiz, and great observation! Great question! I need to check if there is any Warhol SpaghettiOs art. Altho they may not have existed yet, at the time. I shall research that :) Thank you again!!

[@rayfletcher9017]

IMHO I think your new range is Great!... Also, the Byrna was a bit disappointing, for the price point. If it were me I would definitely go with the lower priced HDR 68 and have two for the price of one Byrna.

[@ModernHippieAirgunner]

Nice testing dude

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so much DaddyO! As is the testing on your channel, my friend

[@danofiremano]

I've held a Byrna & it felt good in the hand and is compact enough that it would probably carry well whereas the HDR68 looks pretty unwieldly and would be a PITA to carry. The reason I say this is that I own a Ruger Super Blackhawk with a 10.5 inch barrel and have to carry that in a cross-draw configuration whereas my other pistols (revolvers & semi-'s) I can carry on my hip.

[@skeene4060]

After watching your many videos I decided to buy the Umarex 50 or 68 caliber air gun. However, after looking at reviews from different sources I was alarmed to find numerous reviews that said both 50 & 68 calibers blew up. That stopped me in my tracks from buying. Have you heard of this?? Thoughts? Suggestions? I wanted a gun like these that's activated by hitting the bottom. Now I'm afraid to buy. Help, Steve in Tennessee

[@kurt9994]

Check out Complete Technology Solutions. I believe his channel has addressed what you're speaking of. Umarex has apparently redesigned the valves for several of those launchers including the HDB. My understanding is umarex is selling those so that a person can replace their valve assembly. I don't think they are doing it as a warranty item you have to purchase it. I hope this helps.

[@coldspring22]

In HDR50/68, chamber in the handle is pressurized. Apparently it can fail if left pressurized for long time. Just don't keep the revolver pressurized.

[@skeene4060]

​@coldspring22 The reviews I read did not say if they left the gun charged or if they were blowing up right after charging...that was my concern. I know not to leave it charged due to gas leaks leaving you defenseless in emergencies.

[@rogercave8245]

Excellent video as always but I was just wondering if you plan to test the new Grimburg Gavle 5 shot home defence pistol as it is 36 joules and is quite impressive as I've seen it tested on another channel and I'd absolutely love to shoot one but i don't think I can legally buy one in the UK because of our gun laws here, your opinion on this would be very interesting! I also got my 100x 50 cal aluminium balls which worked out cheaper in the UK than the price I paid for 50 from another supplier! Great to see that you've moved and set up your new range, I'm looking forward to more videos!

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey Roger! Thanks a lot! Yes I plan to try the Galve. Sooo many people have recommended it ! I contacted Grimburg and at some point they should ship me one 🤞🏽 Thank you as always for your input!!

[@rogercave8245]

@@AirgunAlley That's excellent news! I can't wait to see you test it!

[@antoniolopez6798]

I am surprised every time I see your videos, the preparation, the work this time marking the feet away, the rigor, etc... They are the best test videos and in my country (Chile) the Byrna is worth 775 dollars, in in relation to the Umarex 68, which costs 250 dollars... Everything is more expensive here (watches, video game consoles, sneakers, etc.). Anyway, I think I have almost all the Umarex (HDS68, HDP50, TP50, HDR50 and HDR68)... and I am happy to know that the HDR 68 is almost on par with the Byrna that is so expensive here (and I don't have it, nor am I interested in having it, despite its advantages that the gas is activated with the trigger and it has 7 shots)... *Just one question* , why in my country, Chile, is the HDP50 worth twice as much as the HDR50? If the latter has a faster recharge because you only have to change the nut and both have 11 Joules from the factory? I have seen that apparently in other countries it is the other way around, but I don't understand why here the HDP50 costs twice as much... its advantage may be that it is more compact or the sights are bright... But I don't know what explanation there is... If anyone knows, your response is appreciated.

[@gastonlagaffe7793]

Beautiful and functional The new shooting stand. 👍

[@AirgunAlley]

Merci beaucoup, monsieur Gaston! Always great to hear from you mon ami

[@jaykay643]

After all my searching for a good self defense pistol, it boils down to these two guns. The Byrna being considerably more expensive and limited to what it can use...is it worth it. Thank you

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank YOU! I hope this video was somewhat helpful… and I agree, there are the two kings of the less lethal pistol world!

[@edmaslana4184]

NICE ! Always fun

[@whocares2537]

-New Alley - Check -Great comparison of 2 Guns - Check -Stuff goes boom - Check -Slowmotion - Check Another great video :), did your mission against Spagetti´Os end tho ?

[@AirgunAlley]

- You’re awesome - Check Ahaha thank you so so much, I love your comment!! I’ve been wanting to go Andy Warhol for some time, so I’m glad we got that out of the way. Will get back to the war against SpaghttiOs from now on :)

[@slingshotwarrrior8105]

Excellent new range, bro! And an excellent shooting test! 🔫

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you as always my Warrior. Not as nice as your range, but I try ;)

[@slingshotwarrrior8105]

@AirgunAlley Welcome, bro. Just remember you started out in a much smaller place. And you still became super popular over a short period of time. Maximize whatever space you have!

[@stuart2500]

Alright mate 👍 like your new alley nice touch with with the feet markings . Gotta give it to HDR seemed more powerful plus can put more or less any ammo in it and I own one so biased 😂 as always keep up the good work look forward to your next vid 👍

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahaha well biased or not, you surely own the more powerful of the pair. So you’re good :) plus I’m not sure the Mrs would approve of the Byrna’s costs… Thank you as always for being there from the beginning… let’s see how many Airgun Alley versions there will be in the future 😬

[@coachwilliamsakadr.gambit5334]

I like the new range. I still cross between the Byrna LE & HDR 68 50. CAL for home protection or street

[@AirgunAlley]

Thanks a lot! I recommend the HDR 68 (16 joules) The HDR 68 is in .68 caliber. The HDR 50 is in .50 caliber

[@mgnet]

HDR 68 punch a pack, and looks alike the Dirty harry 44... quite intimidating

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahaha it does, very much! 🙌🏼

[@sanciuzzu]

What do you think about SALT supply S2?

[@jmarcp8916]

Bonjour. HDR 16 joules original ?

[@AirgunAlley]

Bonjour! This one has a factory 16 joules valve in a factory 7,5 joules body. A Frankenstein HDR 68 😂

[@jmarcp8916]

Merci beaucoup

[@JohnD6280]

Byrna Mission 4 rifle is still SOLD OUT!!! The Byrna LE is a little less powerful, but, it can fit in your pocket, behind your belt or in a holster and it will look like a proper gun. The MASSIVE hand cannon Umarex is more powerful, but, where the hell will you fit that thing? You might as we pistol whip the person instead of trying to pull it out of your backpack, activate it and then try to hold it with both hands... Not very practical. BTW, i like the home depot plywood design, it's basic, not computer drafted or 3D printed! Keep on shooting!

[@JohnBruno-yi1ex]

I had my daughters 68 turned up to 33 joules..only shoots 4-5 per co2 but hits hard

[@noerosasramirez5118]

How do you do this

[@Cody-rd6jk]

I have been carrying the HDR 50 4 about a year now the problem I have is is that it's very hard 2 conceal carry I've had 2 result 2 just keeping it in my bag I carry around because the HDR is so big.

[@benjrgadgets7223]

For me the HDR 68 is the winner. For its price and the types of ammo i can use with it. Here in CA gun laws are stricter. We have to be careful in using our real gun powder guns in our home. Less Lethal is the alternative. But i still will carry my 1911. My only concern with HDR 68 is the 5 round limit of the circular magazine.

[@TheRealCrimdor]

Is the 16 joule variant legal here in CA? I tried looking around online and couldn't find any info.

[@jolynjacinto2890]

nice backyard just made for shooting alley is that a new home

[@ronloparto8755]

How many Joule increase by only removing the Restrictor from an HDR68 16 joule? Which is Better? Removing the Restrictor completely? Or Drilling a 1.5mm or 3mm hole in the Restrictor.

[@mgnet]

Where is the damn alley in airgun alley anymore ? just kidding, love your new setting.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahaha I know, the other one was so much better! But unhappy wife…. So here we are in a new house! Just got to keep making videos so hopefully one day I can just get my own range 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽 Thank you as always my friend!

[@gumbystown]

You should try some of the HDR ammo that carries a like a 16 penny nail📍 in it

[@tom-x2w7h]

where can the 16 joule HDR be gotten ? i can only find 7.5 thx

[@norionorio2275]

Incrível 👍🏻👍🏻🇧🇷

[@AirgunAlley]

🙌🏼🙏🏽

[@beachlife491]

Good info and entertaining! 🤙😎🌴

[@wordkyle]

The Byrna holds 7 shots vs 5....Plus reloading with an extra clip much easier & faster... Having said that, if you need 14 shots then you're probably wishing you had a proper firearm. My Byrna is just to buy me time to get my 12 gauge.

[@chaseventrillaquist6458]

The update and new range are awesome! I'm personally not a huge byrna fan, but both of those are hand cannons, and are a good comparison of available options. I wish they (ahem, Umarex) would make a .50 cal pistol that functions like the .43 t4e blowback line, with the c02 in the mag, but like 15 joules minimum out of the box. 6-7 rounds per mag, with new pistol models/designs. Badass video! Cheers from Indiana!

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so so much my friend from Indiana!! I hope Umarex is listening, because those are some great ideas!

[@tomnovak9277]

I was wondering if the hdr68 is actually a paint ball gun. Because in my efforts in trying to find a place to buy one, all the articles I come across calls this a paint ball gun. But some of those sites when digging into them says not to use paintball. So where do I get the correct answer for 68 caliber non lethal home deterrent?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi, good question. The line is in the FPS or in the Joules, meaning that in paint-balling there is a limit in one or both of those measures. Anything over 7,5 joules (or around there) considered for “home defense”. Umarex makes various versions of their launchers. Always a 7,5 joules version of every model for paintball. Then, depending on the gun, they come in different versions: 16 joules, 40 joules…

[@KP-ze9li]

Does anybody know if any of these less lethal devices are legal in canada and if so, whrre are they sold? Thanks

[@lucassmith2332]

The HDR does have great benefits but, having to just take off safety does have benefits in training in ease of use.

[@MultiSkyman1]

Well, do you have to use their brand of CO2 or what. I think for actually carrying around I will use the house brand, but practice with Crossman or whatever.

[@kobefan2472]

going in that can was proof it hits hard to me

[@AirgunAlley]

🙌🏼

[@JJamiah]

Wasted water, tomatoes soup and the worst was the awesome gargoyle gnome!

[@Kliker-wc3ut]

Guys I am just here to ask is an hdr 50 effective for home intruders, cheers

[@kimofromkalihi]

I’d get Byrna to carry and HDR 68 at stationary areas

[@smokingunclefrank6037]

I'm sure you have a reason for using Umarex co2 in one and Byrna in the other gun but I don't get it there both 12 gram and both will work ether way so why because Byrna said so these are my thoughts Byrna wants 19.99 for 10 cartages Umarex co2 are 29.99 for 50 it's a no brainer for me no more then 10 dollars gets me 40 more cartages I'm not knocking you I'm just pointing that out anyway great video I really enjoyed it

[@MartynJames1]

like the new range

[@MihaiLeonardoNiculescu]

Like-before-watching squad

[@AirgunAlley]

Which is the absolute best squad ever, lead by the best man! 🙏🏽🙌🏼

[@MihaiLeonardoNiculescu]

@@AirgunAlley ❤️

[@fredoberetta0351]

I prefer the Byrna it’s smaller, has a higher magazine capacity, and the results were almost the same. Remember we’re not looking to kill people. We’re looking to provide a less lethal option. Delivering a chemical round to disable someone or a kinetic round which is non-lethal, and can deliver pain and offer compliance as a result is really what we’re looking for. It’s clear to me that if you change the projectile type, you may have an increased penetration, but with that comes a higher chance of causing bodily harm or death. The burner philosophy is my favorite. I own two other handguns. If I’m looking for a beast I’ll rely on those.

[@stevendunn264]

How is that less lethal?

[@AirgunAlley]

Well for starters they shoot at a very low power of around 16 joules (or 11 FPE) and they are powered by small CO2 canisters, meaning the projectiles don’t fly very far and certainly don’t sustain power over long distances. Hope this helps

[@airgunsanonymouslesslethal1904]

Nice new place! Great to see the stop motion again! ;-]

[@HoodziHockey16]

Cute toy

[@Yes-or-No-Yes]

👌🏻🎯

[@THELESSLETHALSPOT]

Great video as always. Im not a Byrna fan as youre stuck powerwise, way more expensive and cant be modified. Loving the new backyard range setup. Unless you go to a pricier weapon cant beat the HDR68.

[@joesolo7719]

Not stuck on the byrna TCR. Got mine tuned up to 53 joules

[@THELESSLETHALSPOT]

@@joesolo7719 oh man thats a different story the TCR is a beast.

[@joesolo7719]

@@THELESSLETHALSPOT yes! Lol

[@HarmonRAB-hp4nk]

hmmm... tippmann a5, $200. response trigger for a5 $60, outcome? full auto 250 round cap mag .68 MAJOR less lethal gun. screw thing 7 shot wonders, liable to piss the perp off... oh ps the a5 looks kinda like an mp5

[@Rooseveltdunn]

Did you have to tune it? How many joules?

[@charleswalden7529]

Great videos. Very informative. Which hard hitting pepperball/Less lethal gun do u prefer? Out of all the ones u have tested? Im on the fence about byrna LE, pepperball TRP, or umarex TR .50. Thank u in advance.

[@Anakena3]

Actually living in France, it's a no choice.... LE can't be found and price tag for SD XL is 650 euros... vs HDR68 below 200 euros....

[@lesslethalfordummies]

Love the new range the printed distances really leaves no room for doubt. Depending on the how you intend to use your LL would be deciding factor here. Concealability or upgradeable power? The Hdr does have a much longer barrel which benefits co2 use….why hasnt somebody made a snub nose Hdr68 yet? Come on guys 😂

[@matteobardella6634]

Ciao grande fratello mio italiano di quore!! Io preferisco l HDR forever❤❤!!.... P.s. quanto mi piacerebbe venire in America e andarmene via cn la mia famiglia dall' Europa e dall' Italia 😢😢

[@ericlesaux8485]

Bonjour, dommage que le barillet ne soit pas comme sur le système du daisy rodgers 44 magnum powerline 8 pouces calibre 177 co2 et 6 pouces que j'ai eu et 7 barillets de 6 coups.. En 4,5mm..et surtout dommage pour moi que je l'ai vendu à l'époque... Je suis impressionné par le kuben air pcp.. 4,5..5 5..et 6,35mm...sa puissance en joules est impossible à posséder... Interdit d'avoir des armes co2 à plus de 20 joules... Où avoir une licence de tir en club... La merde... Juste un avis.. Vous avez de la chance.. L'Europe nous enfonce et veut nous désarmer carrément en France... Vendrelachienne... Je l'appelle.. Tout comme supprimer l'argent liquide en billets et monnaies... Et argent numérique... Plus de bas de laine pour contrôler les français gaulois réfractaires à dit macron.. J'espère que le rassemblement national passera aux élections présidentielles en France avec Marine le Pen où Jordan bardella qui promet.. Il est temps de remettre ce pays sur pied avec des frontières et ramener chez eux les indésirables... Les politiciens français se gavent sur le dos des ouvriers français qui vont travailler jusqu'à 64 voir 67 ans... Et même faire une visite médicale obligatoire tous les 15 ans pour conduire un véhicule... Mon père a arrêté 6 mois avant ses 90 ans.. Il l'à décidé.. Cette Europe c'est de la merde... Gardez votre liberté de posséder une arme pour défendre votre domicile... Ici.. Même si je prends un marteau pour taper sur un cambrioleur c'est moi qui vais en prison... Corruption des politiciens et avocat juges et procureurs... Et j'ai 61 ans..

[@JempsAuciel1985]

I like the HDR better

[@SebBoulangerie]

hdr 68