Byzantine Iconography Tutorial. How to Paint the Icon of Saint Anthony

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Painting the Light

Painting the Light

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@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
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@bufboston1
@bufboston1 Жыл бұрын
"I did something pretty unorthodox." That was quite funny. Great video.
@julzmgrforll7278
@julzmgrforll7278 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Christian but my heart is still drawn to icons. I love that they are still made. Your work is inspirational.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much.... That's very nice of you....
@corex72
@corex72 Жыл бұрын
Not yet😊
@Pixelhewn
@Pixelhewn 9 ай бұрын
you must be orthodox christian! thats the Lord who is calling you! LIFE IS PURPOSELESS WITHOUT BEING CHRISTIAN !
@pohkimcheng59
@pohkimcheng59 2 ай бұрын
Strangely me too ❤ I'm Buddhist but I have always found the iconography of orthodox church soooo beautiful 😍😍😍
@fabiocutaia249
@fabiocutaia249 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you, for your work and your generosity in teaching!
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you kind comment!!! God Bless you!
@colinschoeman1424
@colinschoeman1424 11 ай бұрын
This is astonishingly beautiful! I used to paint 'icons' when I was still at school. They are of course not real icons, but my parents still have them. This is the first time I see how it's really done.
@spyrosdemetriades5216
@spyrosdemetriades5216 3 жыл бұрын
Άξιος και κάλλιστος! Με την μαστοριά σας τα κάνετε όλα να φαίνονται πανεύκολα! Εύγε!!!
@joannam1446
@joannam1446 5 ай бұрын
This is truly beautiful! How the Saint’s face emerges with the photismata and how you have captured his ascetic expression. I’m so glad I found your channel! I’m writing my second icon after 20+ years. You make it look easy and I know it is not. Blessed be your artist’s hands.
@rogodoy100
@rogodoy100 4 ай бұрын
Thank you Anthony for your work and teaching
@issaavedra
@issaavedra 9 ай бұрын
I'm trying to learn iconography, and your videos are so helpful. I just finished my third icon, and while it nowhere near something even decent, your tutorials are incredible helpful. Viewing your work and recognize what I'm lacking and what I should practice. Thank you!
@aeltgroth10
@aeltgroth10 2 жыл бұрын
I have always wanted to learn how to write icons with egg tempura. I have mostly done mosaics and poetry. Painting is new to me but you are a very good and clear teacher. You give just the right amount of information and instruction and great clarity of demonstrating. I could never afford in my life at this moment to study but you are making my study a reality. I find your videos so helpful. God bless you!
@1XZQ771
@1XZQ771 4 жыл бұрын
In the library I go to, there is exactly this icon of Saint Anthony the Great, and it is so beautiful I longed to learn how to paint one like it. Thanks be to God, you have this published this video oh how to paint him! I'm so grateful for your work, I learn a lot from this tutorial, and will be learning from your other videos too. Thank you so much and keep up the good work!
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you truly for sharing this with me...
@paulharvdub
@paulharvdub Жыл бұрын
Very fascinated by the technique and the underlying meaning of all the aspects of this icon
@PriestPhotios
@PriestPhotios 4 жыл бұрын
If the saliva works, then it works! I will try that soon! I’ll be honest saying that fighting with the egg tempera on the gold leaf has kept me from using it more often. These videos are really great!
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! I'm glad you find it helpful!!!
@emmawold7083
@emmawold7083 4 ай бұрын
My iconography instructor found that mixing a drop of dish soap in the egg tempera also allows the paint to sit on top of the gold foil very easily. I’ve had success with that.
@Angel-k1c9o
@Angel-k1c9o 14 күн бұрын
Beautiful Icon !
@joycetheroux879
@joycetheroux879 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful work. Thank you.!❤️❤️❤️
@jovanabexi9763
@jovanabexi9763 2 жыл бұрын
Παρακαλώ κ στα ελληνικά, θα βοηθούσε πολύ! Εκπληκτικά βίντεο ! Εκπληκτικές δουλειές! Συγχαρητήρια!
@leonn54
@leonn54 Жыл бұрын
amazing video. very clear and inspirational. subscribed.
@joaovitor9673
@joaovitor9673 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you Antonis, amazing work 🇧🇷
@maryannewolter-pryke2450
@maryannewolter-pryke2450 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for showing us how you do your work and explaining what you are doing. I LOVE iconography, What you do is very beautiful. Thank you.
@Juliajustjoined
@Juliajustjoined 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video I’m going to start doing iconography, Glory to our Lord
@eirinikalaitzaki
@eirinikalaitzaki 4 жыл бұрын
Καταπληκτικός ο Άγιος Αντώνιος !!!!!!.....Η Χάρη Του να μας προστατεύει !!!!!!ΣΥΓΧΑΡΗΤΗΡΙΑ ΠΟΛΛΑ Αντώνη για την τόσο όμορφη εικονογραφία σου !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Ειρήνη χίλια ευχαριστώ!!!! Να εισαι και εσύ πάντα υγιης και χαρούμενη και να αγιογραφεις τόσο ομορφα.
@mariocatanese1011
@mariocatanese1011 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful work! Thank you for sharing your knowledge on your great skill. God bless
@philippeattal3696
@philippeattal3696 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful job antonis thanks for teaching.❤️🙏🏼
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for commenting Philippe! I am so glad you find this helpful!
@maryburke8004
@maryburke8004 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Many thanks. I liked you talking about beginner's mistakes... this is very helpful. I look forward to your next video.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@Michelle-s8c8p
@Michelle-s8c8p 9 ай бұрын
merci, j'aime beaucoup ce Saint Antoine le grand.
@scillyautomatic
@scillyautomatic 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! And fun to watch as you work.
@katherinenoggle6407
@katherinenoggle6407 4 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful work! I recently subscribed to your channel, and am very happy to have found it. I'm trying to learn to paint icons by myself, so i appreciate your tutorials. I prefer this style of painting more than the smooth style. I liked your comment about it being more painterly- i completely agree! There's no texture/visual interest in the smooth style to me. Very enjoyable to watch!
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for subscribing and commenting! Feel free to share your progress!
@PeteV80
@PeteV80 Жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. What a gift.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much ❤️❤️
@philippeattal3696
@philippeattal3696 3 жыл бұрын
This icouna of St.Anthony your patron master antonis is extremely beautiful and full of love divine and strength from him and of our religion godbless you my friend this icon you painted is my favorite!!☦️❤️💗💗🙏🏼🙏🏼
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Philippe thank you soo much for your beautiful comments always!
@gideonros2705
@gideonros2705 3 жыл бұрын
Even though the video is speed up you can still see how smoothly the paint flows. I appreciated your explanations. I also agree the beard should be stylised and not overdone.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@joycetheroux879
@joycetheroux879 7 ай бұрын
Beautiful work Antonio
@JoannaZD
@JoannaZD 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for these tutorial, God bless you
@levmyshkin5990
@levmyshkin5990 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Anthony, thank you for all your videos. They are very inspiring and explain the technique of writing, and better help to understand the shape of the body in the icon. I am a monk of the monastery of the Trinity-Sergius Lavra in Russia and now I am learning to paint icons, I am studying at an Icon Painting school. Your videos have helped me a lot, thank you. I wish you strength, health, patience, inspiration, God's mercy and help. Your icons are really beautiful, they are very attuned to prayer and help you feel the closeness of God and His saints better. thank you.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you lev! I have heard of your Monastery! My greetings and pray for me.
@levmyshkin5990
@levmyshkin5990 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to meet you! We will pray for you at the Liturgy and at St. Sergius'.
@jesuschrist32971
@jesuschrist32971 2 жыл бұрын
Best wishes and prayer from my bottom of heart for ur monastic life i am jibin from kerala india and iam a seminarian now i am doing theology i am also very intrested in the iconography but there is only less facilities for learn it as student of iconography can please suggest the name of the painting that are using for writing 🙏🏻
@wanda263
@wanda263 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I find how you paint icons the most powerful! I would be very interested in seeing how you would paint Panteleimon in this style. We all need healing and I think it would give many of us so much to witness you painting this saint.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wanda so much! That is a great idea...
@kyle.horton
@kyle.horton 3 жыл бұрын
A tutorial from a fellow leftie no less. God bless. Thank you.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! We lefties should unite!!!! 😁😁
@d0g_0f_Christ0s
@d0g_0f_Christ0s 3 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful piece of art, thank you for sharing. As a non artist I had next to no comprehension of your art/iconography language, however I do understand putting St. Anthony's struggle in his expression (a picture speaks a thousand words). I'm a black sheep Protestant trying to find his roots in church history, understanding that we are God's icons is imperative to understanding that icons are not idol worship, as many of us Protestants presume, they are a 'thanksgiving (so to speak, and probably so much more)' back to God for 'all (creation)' He has given us using 'what (redeemed matter)' He has given us. Speaking the truth not only in word but in deed, painting an icon is worship, the art being worship from the heart, the heart Christ redeemed. Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Mathew!! You seem an amazing guy!!
@d0g_0f_Christ0s
@d0g_0f_Christ0s 3 жыл бұрын
@@PaintingtheLight just a guy with an amazing Lord.
@imatrOlda
@imatrOlda 4 жыл бұрын
I love this one maybe the most. Love the texture of proplasmos shining through the grapsimata .... it’s „perfect“ if it’s not perfect
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great comment!!! Thank you so much! If you liked Saint Antonio's, stay tuned. Saint Nikolas comes tomorrow in my channel! :) paint well!
@oldrichsimek8707
@oldrichsimek8707 4 жыл бұрын
@@PaintingtheLight Great! I am about to paint St. Nikolas just now! Made the drawing already ... so looking forward to see some inspiration :)
@jedamianova
@jedamianova 3 жыл бұрын
When I have problems painting on the border of the gilded area I use soap. Just apply it with semi wet brush and wait for it to dry.
@elizabethbogoni5757
@elizabethbogoni5757 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for this wonderful video! I've been watching it slowly all week and just finished an Icon of St Anthony tonight. I love the explanations you give along the way.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Elizabeth!!!! I appreciate your comment!!!
@cadeaucadeau2181
@cadeaucadeau2181 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you for sharing your work ☦️☦️☦️🙏
@amalialiapis850
@amalialiapis850 Жыл бұрын
I also felt the same the very first time I tried egg tempera! It was magical and was surprised and saddened that it had taken me so long to try this!! It will be impossible for me to go back to acrylic and oil.
@stomanotanya-ianakova7844
@stomanotanya-ianakova7844 6 ай бұрын
Για στα χέρια σας! Καταφέρνετε και μεταδίδετε το πάθος της ζωγραφικής. Η έκφραση των εικόνων σας είναι πολύ ήρεμη, οικεία. Η τεχνικές σας είναι "wow"! Ο Θεός να σας έχει καλά!
@fl7210
@fl7210 Жыл бұрын
Very beautiful
@ZZmsz
@ZZmsz 2 жыл бұрын
I love to pain religions con, i am very graetfull for your generosity .
@leonmelinti1102
@leonmelinti1102 2 жыл бұрын
Keep the good work God bless you
@RallyTheTally
@RallyTheTally Жыл бұрын
Very very classy, well done!
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!❤️❤️❤️
@bou5525
@bou5525 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the knowledge!!
@leonidasCorfu
@leonidasCorfu 4 жыл бұрын
Like always, amazing work! Keep the videos coming ! 👍🏻
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you soo much for the support Leonida!!!
@marytepes8437
@marytepes8437 5 ай бұрын
Very nice !
@myrnagemayel3060
@myrnagemayel3060 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your work, I’m writing Saint Anthony ’s icône it helped me a lot
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling me this!! Please send me photo of your progress!
@WillThorpe73
@WillThorpe73 3 жыл бұрын
Again, a fantastic tutorial Antonis, thank you. I think I'm hooked, W
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Will!!
@makaroniaxwriatika6016
@makaroniaxwriatika6016 4 жыл бұрын
Please I want to learn how to mix the colors because now I start to learn Iconography .Thank you very much.
@thomassymonds6308
@thomassymonds6308 3 жыл бұрын
That's a really cool style, thanks for making and sharing the video!
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Thomas! I'm glad if this was of some help to you.
@maryannewolter-pryke2450
@maryannewolter-pryke2450 4 жыл бұрын
Very Beautiful! I wish I could blend and shade like you.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Maryanne... Stay tuned though, a blending tutorial comes in the next videos and might help you a lot
@SidiVici
@SidiVici 4 жыл бұрын
Beautifull!! Love your work. Keep on doing this videos! God bless you
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you soo much!!! I'm glad if the videos are useful to you..!
@vasilijapavlovic7625
@vasilijapavlovic7625 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DarkaniaWorks
@DarkaniaWorks 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! Nice! I'm also an iconographer (and game developer). I like to burnish my gold leaf so it looks almost like a mirror and thus the paint won't stick. When this happens I usually clean the gold leaf with a cotton swab and a bit of alcohol. It removes the oils on the surface and then the paint sticks really nice. Lovely videos, keep doing it!
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Alcohol should work great! Thanks for taking time to comment and subscribe!
@karenzold5812
@karenzold5812 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful thankyou.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank YOU!
@corex72
@corex72 Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting, the process seems to follow a saints path. The outline of a man appears, his face becomes covered, then through slow creation, he becomes sanctified and sainted. But his inheritance is present from the beginning in the gilding work.
@ritaberberisarkis6070
@ritaberberisarkis6070 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you
@nien621
@nien621 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Keep up the good work!
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! I'm glad!
@TheDanda1988
@TheDanda1988 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful work what you are doing Antoni. After following a course on the Prosopon russian technique, where the "movement" is created through rough pigment and multiple layers, I find it very inspiring to see also how the Cretan way of icon painting creates movement: through many many small lines :). Beautiful. I also like your background voice and hints and stories. Keep doing the wonderful work...
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Ruxandra for sharing this.... It really makes me happy you find my videos useful... And thank you for saying you like the voice.... Hehe
@tanianally2285
@tanianally2285 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very inspirational 🙏
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Tania Tha k you for sharing this! 😊😊😊
@65cquintero
@65cquintero 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@wisewomanhealing
@wisewomanhealing 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@იადათუნაშვილი
@იადათუნაშვილი Жыл бұрын
დიდი მადლობა, ბევრი რამ ვისწავლე თქვენი გაკვეთილებიდან.
@serenasztein5065
@serenasztein5065 2 жыл бұрын
amazing
@makaroniaxwriatika6016
@makaroniaxwriatika6016 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice thank you.
@elainapoochie2734
@elainapoochie2734 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Τhank yoy
@antoninapsennikova5129
@antoninapsennikova5129 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Antonios please can you give the video about varnishing icon after painting? Antonina.
@marybenton8223
@marybenton8223 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work. Could you increase the volume a bit on future tutorials? Very hard to hear you -and I want to hear what you are saying!
@Gabriel-cz7oe
@Gabriel-cz7oe 4 жыл бұрын
Garlic works with egg tempera on gildings.
@Christos_x_Art
@Christos_x_Art Жыл бұрын
Hello I love this painting! What paints do you use for this amazing piece?
@Jesper-z6o
@Jesper-z6o 8 ай бұрын
It’s beautiful 😊 is there any place to download stencils? I suck at drawing but i want to paint 😅
@amaliacocan337
@amaliacocan337 11 ай бұрын
Hi there,really great work! Can i ask where do you buy egg Paint and how do you mix colours? Ehat If May hands Hurt and i cant keep that Stick...?! I know It s not Easy answer but maybe once i would try..how else can i do not to dirti the icon without the Stick? And least,how and when You put Gold colour of aura? Thank you in Advance for Ur time
@tasteoftroy113
@tasteoftroy113 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful work! How much time do you need to wait between the layers of color on the robe and face?
@djfunkychicken
@djfunkychicken 6 ай бұрын
I’m interested to know how much different is the egg tempera to gouache which uses gum Arabic
@pezequilibradohace5anos538
@pezequilibradohace5anos538 Жыл бұрын
May I ask how you made the background? What material or paint is it?
@anoviello1
@anoviello1 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic,......are you painting flat on the surface or the board is standing?
@leonmelinti1102
@leonmelinti1102 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know but by accent I think you are romanian so am I and am happy that we have that nici iconographers here Sper că mi-ai înțeles mesajul și sunt foarte fericit că îți împărtășești cu mine aceste minunății deoarece eu sunt deasemenea pasionat de iconografie și sper ca mesajul meu va ajunge unde trebuie!
@BlancaDeanHHIndia
@BlancaDeanHHIndia 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice. What do you use as surface for the painting? Thanks so much
@alisauzemljicuda6307
@alisauzemljicuda6307 4 жыл бұрын
Υπέροχος!
@apollyon8741
@apollyon8741 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of brushes are you using ?
@ajbocdesigns
@ajbocdesigns 9 ай бұрын
You mix your egg tempra with oil paint?
@jesuschrist32971
@jesuschrist32971 2 жыл бұрын
Can u please tell me that which are the colors that u are using for an icon painting
@marklangston3250
@marklangston3250 2 ай бұрын
How to start painting icon? I have no idea where to start? What attributes should be important to shaw respected love to God? How not to make mistakes?
@JoAnnGalsing
@JoAnnGalsing Жыл бұрын
Im from philippines😊
@ritaberberisarkis6070
@ritaberberisarkis6070 2 жыл бұрын
Please kan i have the name of material. Because I like to learn thank you .
@BlackKnight-th8ml
@BlackKnight-th8ml 4 жыл бұрын
Antony how did you felt that you draw your saint of your name i like the fact that you try to speak in English and also your great job
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the nice questions!! I love and admire Saint Anthony... Always feel good to paint him.... Wish I was a bit like him though....What is your favorite Saint?
@BlackKnight-th8ml
@BlackKnight-th8ml 4 жыл бұрын
Listen i also have a channel that i create things that you would like to check tell me your opinion you will be surprised
@BlackKnight-th8ml
@BlackKnight-th8ml 4 жыл бұрын
Antony check my work please you will be surprised i swear
@MrChucke711
@MrChucke711 2 ай бұрын
In Wikipedia there are many Saint Anthony lives. One from the 12th century is holding a baby that is said to be the baby Jesus. When did your Saint Anthony live?
@nidaljabarin4743
@nidaljabarin4743 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I very like your videos, do you think birch plywood and MDF (HDF) are the best for egg tempera? 2- For large pictures (in. 50 x 30 in.) Do I need a thickness of 18 millimeters? I am waiting for answering, thank you.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Nidal. Mdf is not a great board as it deteriorates with humidity. I don't know what birch is, but a non warping plywood is the best. Thickness is up to you
@nidaljabarin4743
@nidaljabarin4743 3 жыл бұрын
@@PaintingtheLight Thank you very much, but before I paint much better to stick very fine linen on plywood, and make gesso on the canvas when stuck on the plywood?
@JosephDeLosSantos-t3m
@JosephDeLosSantos-t3m 3 жыл бұрын
Can I paint using this kind of material on a cement wall?
@benedictuspratamaokypagala6089
@benedictuspratamaokypagala6089 2 ай бұрын
What paint do you use?
@kittyclements7128
@kittyclements7128 2 жыл бұрын
do you have a supply list?
@1pgfwabf
@1pgfwabf 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Antonis - Could you post your reference images - or links to them? I appreciate your videos but it would help me work with you if I had the reference image too. Thanks.
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you... As soon as I figure out how to share files on KZbin I will share the reference
@1pgfwabf
@1pgfwabf 3 жыл бұрын
@@PaintingtheLight If you found your image online, I think you could put a link to it in your description section. If not, you might simply focus your camera on the reference image at the beginning of the recording for a couple of seconds. That way, we could do a screen shot and get a decent replica. Thanks.
@minakouvara7484
@minakouvara7484 Жыл бұрын
Ευχαριστώ πολύ για την προσφορά σας,στην αγιογραφία..Μόνο ήθελα να πω εάν γινόταν,να μιλούσατε Ελληνικά με Αγγλικούς υπότιτλους... ευχαριστώ.
@hadeelawad7773
@hadeelawad7773 6 ай бұрын
@fph2060
@fph2060 Жыл бұрын
Is it ok for a non iconographer to draw icons for there own home?
@zlatko6846
@zlatko6846 4 жыл бұрын
preubavo,HRISTOSpomegju nas
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I cannot understand but I read the word Christ and that is enough! :)
@cheryllkinsleypotter2307
@cheryllkinsleypotter2307 3 жыл бұрын
Garlic Juice is also very good
@PaintingtheLight
@PaintingtheLight 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!! Thank you so much!!
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