C&C Red Alert 3 - Comparing Anti-Air Jets

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[@SenseiMasterShikikan-sama]

Jet Tengu's main advantage is their strength in numbers. Since Jet Tengus never need to reload to Airbase or have the hangar limit of other anti-air aircrafts.

[@DEMONX62]

Mecha tengu let's go

[@Weigazod]

and they are cheaper.

[@hector_campus]

And good for fast attacks to outposts.

[@racelkatyusha403]

nerf it

[@dezert5418]

@@racelkatyusha403 oooooh, Come on.😁

[@GrandSupremeDaddyo]

Apollos with the upgrade will dominate any competition. However the MIGs' missiles have blast radius, so large scale air2air battles where targets are clustered together lend the advantage back to them.

[@Greater_Good]

but Apollo has another big drawback: all Alliance planes require space. Because of this, they are often not enough. For the Soviets, in this regard, only MiGs occupy space at airfields.

[@DeltaDamag]

I loved this game so much, I don't know why Glad to see people still post about it

[@silencenesssln466]

Delta Damag me too

[@thanhvinhnguyento7069]

If you love this game then maybe you'll be interested in the recent corona mod

[@Trades46]

One small cool factor is how during WW2 where the air force was operated pretty much as a separate entity, Japanese aircraft were either the property of the IJA or IJN (called IJAAS or IJNAS respectively). In that sense, Red Alert 3 the Japanese cannot make airfields but their aircraft either comes from the War Factory (IJA) or from the Dockyards (IJN) and can transform into aircraft from there.

[@MagizardInternet]

Okay, let me summarise. Apollo Fighter: + Advanced Aeronautics + Best General Armor and Health + Highest Ammo Capacity + Best against Light Air ~ Fastest ~ 1v1 Aptitude - Struggles against heavy armour - Has Ammo at all - Less effective in numbers MiG: + Really good against high armour/high health + Can deal splash damage + Very good en-masse ~ Slower than Apollo - Not a 1v1 fighter - Has Ammo at all, lowest at that - Weakest armour/health Jet Tengu: + Limitless + Can transform to a ground unit + Has the most armour (against ground weapons at least) + Cheapest at 800 ~ Most Average on all Damage ~ Slowest - Cannot 1v1 the other two - Weakest air-air armour and general health In the end, Mecha Tengu really win as you can just make more of them all the time. Apollo Fighters will shred air and win most of the time, but Tengu transform. MiGs are just neat hammers that do the job they're supposed to.

[@Tucher97]

You can train Mecha Tengus the moment you build the Empire's warfactory

[@user-ig9dr8bm1l]

In reality of PvP actually tangus are abnormally useless. And Author was using Apollos without Aeronautics. This changes everything.

[@WHOARETHEPATRIOTS475]

dabs in aa ground units

[@Starfleet8555]

Two Apollos, with Advanced Aeronautics, can take down 4 Mecha Tangas. If I remember the of mecha tengas correct number he sent against me. It was PVP

[@Frost-01]

what do you mean apollos are less effective in numbers? their even scarier in numbers

[@dzalva1434]

tg for Red Alert 2 and The JB for Red Alert 3?! This is great! Keep the best of Red Alert alive!

[@jeanmichel8919]

And rc1985 for red Alert 1😊

[@sethleoric2598]

I swear the Mecha Tengus sound like a drug induced hispanic dude sometimes

[@memejojawolf]

Mig: you got a sucker for me? Bullfrog:yep

[@mixuzi4520]

Lamo was looking for that comment

[@Azurewroth]

Mecha Tengu is the weakest but most strategic due to its ease of production and endless ammunition. The last thing you want is to run out of ammo trying to down a Giga Fortress and watch as it decimates your base with 1% Hp because your fighters need to reload. Plus their firepower against air is actually quite good.

[@drzero1131]

Apollo fighter: overall the best due to their effectiveness vs other air superiority fighters and their higher health pools, but lack against bigger things Mig fighters: a good heavy aircraft killer that can also decimate groups of smaller aircraft if stacked properly due to the splash damage of their rockets Jet tengu: overall the weakest of the 3, mainly due to the fact that they don't need to reload and there is no limit to the number produced they can also turn into an anti-infantry unit that is again the weakest of the 3

[@drzero1131]

@Daniel von Strangle whilst I said that tengus were the weakest of the 3, I never said they were bad Yes, an apollo might do less damage against big targets, it's the fact that it beats the other 2 in air superiority that makes it the best, as it makes it safer for the other air units

[@woodlands_]

@Daniel von Strangle Migs seem to win out when in numbers though. Something about the math works out in their favor against large targets when in a group and the aoe deals with other groups of aircraft better than groups of apollo fighters do. from that pov they aren't dissapointing at all. especially if your opponent isn't super good with their micro. Shame they didn't test that in the video.

[@Frost-01]

Tengus sacrifice alot for versitility, but can remedy it by making up for it in numbers.

[@Frost-01]

@@drzero1131 that changes if Advanced Aeronotics was involved but sadly not here in this video, cuz you can beat down a giga with 4 apollos w/ advanced aeronotics upgrade i know that much

[@RoulicisThe]

And we shouldn't forget one important factor and that's the fact Tengus cost LESS than the other interceptors : for the price of 4 Mig, you get 5 Tengus. they have more HP, and dps than their counterparts, they're also better against other-types of units than just planes AND they cost less. How the heck could these be considered "weakest", please do tell cause I don't see

[@Connor.SG-1Ring]

The Apollo Fighter is the faster and more durable jet, while the Jet Tangu is easier to mass produce and doesn't run out of ammunition.

[@Ainsley_the_meat_rubber]

10:00 i felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced

[@SuperNovaJinckUFO]

3:55 the fucking Mig just gives up XD

[@KADASUVA]

Mecha Tengu is such a Robotech/Macross homage I love it

[@dragonstormx]

Apollo: Best at shooting down other flying AA units. Is also the fastest which helps with catching pursuing enemies. Mig: The best at shooting down bombers quickly. It also the most vulnerable since it has the least health and the Soviet airfield doesn't repair aircraft like the Allied airbase and Imperial Mecha Bay. Both fighters can use their Return to Base ability for a speed boost to get out of danger or to catch a fleeing enemy that happens to moving in the direct of their airbase. Tengu: The most durable (unless the Apollo benefits from Advance Aeronautics) but worst engaging the others and the slowest. As Mecha Bays can't be built on water this also means you can only build Tengus on land, though most games are focused on land anyways given a number of AA units can only be built on land. The Emprie is especially vulnerable since its AA sea unit isn't available until Tier 2. Being the cheapest and having no limit on the number you can build does mean it can overwhelm them with sheer numbers, but if you are investing a disproportionate amount of resources in Tengus then your opponent will probably exploit that weakness by responding with ground units. Being able to transform between modes gives the Tengu greater versatility since shooting down air units is all the other fighters are good for. Tengus can be used to attack Ore Miners or to harass other early game units, plus going into mecha mode means they can fight back against AA infantry unlike the other fighters who have to turn. In an amusing irony the Jet Tengu is the best counter to the Giga Fortress in Sky Fortress Mode since they don't run out of ammo.

[@The_whales]

Tile: comparing anti air jets Vx striker joins in Everyone else: what are you doing here

[@vandarkholme4745]

Huh I didn't think tengu would do this well. Thought the migs'd do the best, but they're only good for heavily armored stuff, and there's not that many armored air units.

[@dondaketype8811]

Did you get the Advanced Aeronautics upgrade for Apollos? They look like the versions without the upgrade.

[@paulyeung2544]

No because he uses soviets as his first faction, as observed from the control panel, you can see from the rust

[@dondaketype8811]

Ic. I think he should probably try to remake the vid with those upgrades just for comparison's sake.

[@paulyeung2544]

@@dondaketype8811 yea

[@paulyeung2544]

@@dondaketype8811 since apollo is entirely at a different level with Advanced Aeronautics

[@mr.vanquisher7984]

As I remember, Advance Aeronatic upgrade just add them more magazine and durability. But the damage remain the same. So yeah, not so much different I guess.

[@Fr0stz]

3:41 use Headphone Instend Of Speaker

[@Octi-ku4yf]

Mecha tengu is the only unit without ammo reload and its great movement of being able to move on the ground and water The apollo is the shreder of air units and the mig is great against helicopters or undefended bombers

[@joshuacabral2348]

So in a straight dogfight, Mecha Tengus are generally weak. But considering you can build as many Tengus as you like, I think Tengus can win in air superiority matches. But yes, I was leaning on Apollo Fighters... 😂😂😂

[@radicalxg8282]

Yeah for me they are the best, they are the most versatile of the 3 jets, They might not be fast and outgunned when battling their enemy peers, but they still pack a punch, you can mass produce them, are Anti-air and ground attackers, they dont have to constantly resupply ammo and in case of events they are losing a AA dogfight or ground battle switch to mecha mode/ jet mode, good harassers

[@xChimkin]

not only that, they are great anti infantry. they win in my book

[@gabrieldauz3533]

If you build many tengus the migs will have advantage because its rockets deals splash damage.

[@Empiro3]

The Tengus are really good. In all of the higher tier replays I've seen, in every Empire match, they'll get built. Apollos and Migs often don't get built, and when they do, they're only used for a part of the game, and I often see them get overwhelmed by masses of Tengus.

[@TO-13]

*«Господство в небе - мир на Земле!»*

[@cleanerwhite9470]

Love the addition of the price and build time at the start. I know most of the time they're the same but wouldn't hurt to include it anyway. And maybe compare ability cooldown too when they matter.

[@chad7298]

No pilot are harm in this video

[@rkadi6540]

Jet tengu is the only jet that can evade being hunted by the other jet, kinda sneaky tactic And i can see that you didnt pict the rocket swarm upgrade for japanese

[@llSuperSnivyll]

I know they are mostly meant to be used in Chooper mode, but Striker-VXs are really disappointing compared to other anti-air units. So the results in the fighters comparison is: Apollos are the tough ones, Migs are the ones that hit the hardest, and Tengus are the overwhelming ones.

[@98kazer]

Apollo: Anti Anti-Air jets, Weak against heavy Aircraft MiG: Anti mass units, Anti Heavy Aircraft, weak against light flyers Jet Tengu: Average on everything, Weak against other anti-air jets of allies and soviets

[@evanjohnson1299]

I,d like to see 4 Mig vs as many mecha tengas can be made at same cost of 4 migs + hanger

[@kirbi4266]

@The JB Could you make a Athena Canon VS V4 Rocket Launcher VS Wave Force Artillery ?

[@everythingforyou6692]

+1

[@everythingforyou6692]

+1

[@decalcomanie123]

3:54 for a second I was like "wait where are you going"

[@AxellMorren]

Why are you running? Why are you running?

[@haikyun77]

Tengu are very durable and very useful meanwhile the other two are mosty support like Kirov or Apocalyspe tank V4 rocket and Dreadnaught can't anti air so MiGs can escort them same as Apollo

[@paulyeung2544]

Tengu is probably the worst tbh, the only thing good is that u can have unlimited amounts of them

[@haikyun77]

@@paulyeung2544 Well yeah but you rarely wanted the tengu to go toe to toe with other two jets and since VX are more useful Tengu are still a necessery support

[@paulyeung2544]

@@haikyun77 tbh i normally don't use VXs in their ground form😂

[@paulyeung2544]

@@haikyun77 it's just their chopper mode is much better

[@haikyun77]

@@paulyeung2544 That is one thing too is you too lazy to switching form like having Tengus to help them fight against some bombers and other fighter jets

[@manhphuc4335]

3:56 lol the Apollo was like: aight imma head out.

[@cryminithehellhoundwolfgir7600]

I think that is mig not apollo

[@runecowman]

As someone whose go to is Tengu spam I'm suprised how well they did in the early tests and now I understand why I can't stand using those chicken walkers.

[@dezert5418]

You test appolo without upgrades? It's really imroved his abilities.(sorry for bad english). I think, tengu cannot be fully AA-unit, because his first role - anti-infantry and harvester harasment.(sorry second time😂).

[@nordicpawsproductions465]

I do love how much further they took air combat in Ra3.

[@user-jc2bs8gt4c]

I think in game if you go for tengu most of the time you just gonna go for spam and shoot every thing in air. Then just spam rocket angle or VX and just bomb everything.

[@user-gc4lu2fr1z]

I'm confused so Apollo fighter is the weakest in every cases but against other superiority jet fighter. And the strongest among them?!

[@Sliferzero]

I Love it this PC Game my friends. With its Good Points and his Mistakes. Thanks.

[@jackythefemboy8972]

Plz chance music on the background

[@SheeshFella]

Tengu looks cool transform into plane

[@PrimoOrb]

1:27 Did Apollo scream: "Oy pizdec!"?

[@gallllllydddd]

3:54 “fuck this I’m out”

[@MinhNguyen-bp4sn]

nice videos

[@Raiden7284677]

Just wondering exactly what music you’re saying for these particular videos? Because it feel very much like Red Alert 3 but I could never find the track myself.

[@theunidentifiedchangeling9451]

Jet Tengu Pros: -Doesn't need to reload -Not limited to air base hangers -Can transform into an anti infantry vehicle -Can use transformation to quickly avoid death -200$ cheaper than Apollo and Mig Cons: -Weakest air superiority fighters fighter out of the three, always die to a 1v1 against Apollo or Mig -Slower than Apollo and Mig too. -Trabsforming to escape death comes at a risk if there's enemies on the ground Mig Pros: -AoE damage, good against clumped up air units. -Deals big dps against big air units(?) Cons: -Has slow attack speed -Airbase doesn't repair Migs unless there's a Crusher Crane nearby -Loses to Apollos unless they're clumped up together Apollo Pros: -Strongest Air superiority fighter out of the three, wins every 1v1 against Tengu and Mig -Can be upgraded from top secret protocols to become even more sturdy and have more ammo -deals good dps against single targets -Fastest out of the three Cons: -(Honestly not sure what to put here, mind sharing your ideas in the replies?)

[@CausticFoil]

1:45 -You got a sucka for me? -Yes

[@80KG_Costco_Chicken]

Damn, there are still people make video about this game

[@raidthegoose7241]

Mecha tengu ad mig are my favorites so far

[@thomastellechea1760]

I find MiGs to be better during chases and attacking while moving, as they fire rockets that do good damage each and are guaranteed to hit, while tengu and apollo need direct sight AND range in order to hit their shots at all, which mind you, are immediately interrupted & dismissed if they lose said sight (the bullets just disappear if they stop facing the enemy aircraft)

[@rektbiich4585]

V-X has sneakily join the comparison fight

[@GalaktionAmfiloheev]

Sometimes MiG is able to defeat Apollo. MiG is able to attack close, but Apollo is not.

[@doggo_woo]

Seems like the apollo's have less DPS than tengu's, but apollos are more of a Quick Response aircraft, probally since the soviets use kirovs and kirovs do require a quick response

[@Toast_94]

Keep in mind he was playing as the soviets, those Apollos did not have advanced aeronautics.

[@doggo_woo]

@@Toast_94 I did see that, they did not have the patriotic stripes on their wings. I can immediately tell if a aircraft does have them or not. Sometimes I don't get the aeronautics upgrade when I'm focusing on economy.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

3 Jet Tengus to beat 1 Apollo is a bit rubbish.

[@V4RocketCloud]

I would say MiGs are better with missiles likely they do more damage against Kirov, Harbinger and Giga Fortress.

[@Frost-01]

from what i know you need 2 airfields worth of apollos to kill Gigas effectively...

[@bluenicholasbf2142]

Did you get the missile upgrade for the striker vx? It makes a significant difference in their effectiveness and might possibly allow them to destroy stuff faster than the other jets in this video comparison.

[@dimagovorun9413]

Учитывая, что тенгу не требует аэропорта, места для посадки, перезарядки и при этом может приземляться и быть аналогом серпа или волнореза это явно самый крутой самолет в РА3

[@XiTrojopka]

MiG fighters have splash damage tho, why that not in tests?

[@RayMak]

The fortress is the hardest unit to kill

[@oldgames2464]

3:54 "i'm going out of here!"

[@oldgames2464]

4:11 "and i am!"

[@ayuchanayuko]

*_MECHA TENGU LET'S GO!_*

[@gabrieldauz3533]

During 1v1 fights mecha tengu can just bail out by transforming. If your hands are fast and have many tengus you can manage to save ur units.

[@sneedfeedandseed2410]

I feel like Migs are really underpowered- they have weak armor, unimpressive speed and can't be repaired in an airfield. they do deal splash damage though, which is good against air unit swarms.

[@Alexandermedo1]

I guess not all the air units have the same armor type and not all the anti airs have the same damage type . That's why the migs are the weaker against light air units while they are the strongest against heavy air units

[@GamingHistory.]

Advanced aironautics?

[@kabukijo3148]

Try testing the artillery units !

[@michaelvavrecka7690]

My love jet fighter is Apollo

[@Starfleet8555]

I love the Apollo

[@twinblade02]

Migs and Tengus are formidable in groups. But the migs get fucked when the Apollos get the Advanced Aeronautics upgrade.

[@wuorson5111]

4:54 surprisingly jet tengu finished before striker vx

[@berzerkov4358]

The mig fighter is the only counter to giga fortress tbh I use 8 of them to take out every single giga fortress across the map

[@Strikerkong]

I thought it was tengu due to unlimited ammo

[@berzerkov4358]

@@Strikerkong nah i takes forever the mig does it a lot faster

[@seculartemplar5407]

Bullfrog > MIG Fighter Bullfrogs are also amphibious

[@Strikerkong]

But they are not air.

[@tingkaixie1793]

I always thought the mecha tengu look like a fly

[@mattwright1101]

Mig fighters are so cool!

[@manuuk23]

Wow Mecha Tengu suprised me.

[@romeonicolasii1349]

Me going down. I repeat, me going dowwwwwwn.

[@nickitaeagle2742]

MIG*

[@picoletor]

jet/mecha tengu, the bastard child between a real life A6M zero and a VF-1 valkyrie from macross! also disclaimer: no mecha waifus were harmed during the making of this video

[@user-zx8yk5bm1g]

Миг и голова не болит!

[@Chris-ev6cp]

This video has to be redone with advanced aeronautics tbh, otherwise it doesnt give the allied side a fair trial since its the first commander upgrade for them anyway

[@justinmartinez2345]

8:15 they put the mecha tengu near the war factory because it can repair

[@kirbi4266]

Yes, but Appollo and Mig are repair when they land on their aircraft too

[@naaga9648]

@@kirbi4266 mig aren't repaired, because the Soviet airfield doesn't have repair drones

[@kirbi4266]

@@naaga9648 really ? So, Appollo are the better

[@naaga9648]

@@kirbi4266 yeah, the Soviet need a grinder construction to repair their vehicles

[@RoulicisThe]

@@kirbi4266 Not exactly : remember that Tengus are cheaper to produce, don't have a number limit, have more HP and dps and can be repaired. And I'm not even taking their mecha form into account.

[@j.madelozo8222]

3:42 😏😏

[@farichalmuafi2622]

Moan

[@everythingforyou6692]

AV

[@jackythefemboy8972]

😂😏

[@Insomnia1234o00o]

This video doesn’t represent what actually happens in the game since you didn’t research advanced aeronautics.

[@justinmartinez2345]

I would say 6 or 8 apollo can take out the giga fortress and im not sure how many will take out the giga fortress

[@kirbi4266]

And Appollo have a upgrade. I'm sur, ,with this, 4 could destroy the giga-fortress

[@repeatplease3330]

how to move trops on formation

[@pr3ttyb0yfl4cko]

I think for the 1v1, he already used the upgraded Apollo Fighter, that's why it easily wins against the Jet Tengu.

[@Strikerkong]

It always wins.

[@kadirbasol82]

What about rocket angel vs apollo and rocket angel vs migs ?

[@graydinegamer]

The JB, You deserve love UwU

[@milandeepak4895]

In 8v8 Mig always wins

[@romansidiropoulos7033]

hehe nice videos

[@jpCps01]

How does one do the "plan attack"?

[@MrAlaaobaji]

did u try appolos with air force upgrade u found in command points ?

[@jiawenzhu5915]

The mig will win with large numbers since they have splash dmg.

[@SarpSpeaksSometimes]

Mig is best because of its sexy voice

[@Al0neStillAlive]

As much as people whine about Allies tengus are hands down the most OP cheap spamable easy to micro good at harassing unit in the game nothing else comes close.

[@user-sq2hg7nh9u]

Mig costs same with apollo but it worse.

[@Nobodyss21]

Why japan always have the worst units?

[@rabihyahya5964]

Please I need this game How can I download it?

[@FleiDer]

А я думал Мигы хороши тем, что у них есть сплеш. А, в итоге. Они просто плохи но за ту же цену.

[@roshanwadasinghe7294]

Tengu is better

[@schyproscollbrande1706]

No upgarde for Apollo huh.

[@my.angel_hikari]

MIG will always wins every 1v1 if the Apollo doesn't have the aircraft upgrade

[@kirbi4266]

9:25 They aren't upgrade

[@uhhh9365]

They arent upgraded cause you can see that they still have low ammo =/ Im a mainer of Allies and im more like a special forces Commander

[@kirbi4266]

@@uhhh9365 or because he play the soviet