Another good lesson Joe. The guy who taught me back in the day said "you don't want to make hay". He taught me to hand grind tools like the one you used here. Good stuff.
@dimitar4y6 жыл бұрын
Shit, why aren't there grinding jigs for that kinda thing? Turn those "expensive" or "hard" tooling operations into simple 1$ consumables. I'd think by 2018 those would exist.
@MrEh56 жыл бұрын
I love it when a hot C chip wraps its self around the lower lip or or ears.
@michaelegan60926 жыл бұрын
You have experience.
@MrEh56 жыл бұрын
Michael Egan Yes unfortunately.
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
I had a red hot, blue, 17-4 'C' shaped chip from a .250 deep cut jump between my finger and the carriage power feed lever right at the moment the tool reached the corner I had to disengage. I stayed with it and pulled the lever so I didn't crash the machine. The chip burned me all the way to the bones in my finger joint. Hurt like a MF. My forearms are so scared from burns on a lathe, when I tan, I look like an ex junkie.
@emilmuhrman6 жыл бұрын
I successfully put my hair on fire with a hot chip I few days ago. Not a fun experience.
@richgage65106 жыл бұрын
Let's you know you're doing the job right 🖒. It's the hot shuffle then the chips fire down your neck and stick between the shoulder blades 😠😠
@mattparker966 жыл бұрын
when you make chips like that and use the geometry of the cutting tool (inserted tooling/with chip break) you help the heat that is produced by the energy to escape out in the chip.... i love your channel joe pie and i might have to make a trip to austin to meet you man!
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Bring Beer.
@TXHeat17766 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe, a lot of us hobbyists watch your vids and work safer & smarter in their home shop as a result. Rats nest instead of clean chips is especially a problem on small hobby lathes that don't have the grunt to cut that aggressively. I saw a guy stumbled on a solution to this: he stripped the torx on an insert screw, and to make due he used a socket head cap screw to replace it. Said it worked great for breaking chips.
@fredparkhouse6 жыл бұрын
as always joe, looks simple when explained by a pro. The sign of a good teacher.
@MrDB426 жыл бұрын
This brought back memories of when my mother (of all people) was getting her masters in Mechanical Engineering and having to learn CNC (back when I was punched paper tape). I used to go with her to her lab's and watch everyone trying to make C's and 6's with various material and tooling, because they had to hand in the part, AND chips to get a grade. Also my high school metal shop teacher was always forcing us to make C's and 6's on the lathe, with classically ground HSS cutters. You CAN do it, it just takes practice and nerves of steel (you swear you're going to crash everything).
@davecross53176 жыл бұрын
Excellent info as always sir. I learn more from you than any other source.
@RepLicanT00100 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely 100% relate to that opening statement. “To scared to push their lathe” The moment I did it and found the machines limit (safety). The results thus far has been flipping fantastic! Love your content . Again. Ha ! Thank you, always learn something new with you Mr Pie 🥧
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
Glad to help.
@ChrisB2576 жыл бұрын
Great advise Joe - impressive results. That was quite a cut on the Al! Must say I find it hard to really get nice broken chips on Al - there again, I don't take over aggressive cuts on my ancient machine.
@matrixgunsmithing80606 жыл бұрын
Thank you again Professor Pie! I have a bunch of 7075 bar stock that I honestly have been putting off because of the speeds and feeds issues of the spinning razor. The timing of the last couple videos have been just perfect. I now have a much better understanding as to the proper speed and feed to get it done right. Have a great week Joe! Mine will be much better because of all your help. Great Video as always!
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Outstanding. Glad to help. Don't be afraid of that 7075. In my experience, it will roll over and break much easier than 6061. Good luck and thanks for watching.
@RRINTHESHOP6 жыл бұрын
Good one.
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Thanks Randy.
@jimsmith62846 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe another great informational video.
@stearman6 жыл бұрын
I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos.
@redleg10136 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe, for all the great videos you put out for all that we didn't learn in school. This is great "finishing".
@ISILENTNINJAI5 жыл бұрын
everytime. Something so satisfying about making 6's and c's. I actually got in trouble by my supervisor when he saw me take a .125 doc and a feedrate of .015 while cuttin soft jaws. Hes not a machinist. Just supervises while operating machines. I do the set ups. I need to move to Texas and come work for a real machinist like you Joe.
@DCFusor6 жыл бұрын
I used to think bird nestin beat dwellin and yellin, but this beats all....Go Joe!
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
It does, but this is the next level.
@waynerobinson23016 жыл бұрын
Joe i have never run any type of machine but appreciate your pist . Im thinking i will have to try this before i die it is just so cool .
@ericreiter16 жыл бұрын
Sensational. It looks like, using a steeper rake and a curved bit is behind what you call a chip-breaker. Good... I considered a second tool bit would show up. You did it right. Three cheers on this great show.
@springwoodcottage42486 жыл бұрын
Super useful & informative, teaching me stuff no one else ever did. Thank you for sharing!
@Gkuljian6 жыл бұрын
Science! Great stuff. Thanks for taking the time to share.
@mrsoars6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, Joe, I'll share this with my students this morning. I like the cross in the top right corner of your whiteboard. Keep up the good work!
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
I recently lost my english bulldog Ruger. I miss him a bunch.
@worthdoss80436 жыл бұрын
Well I had no idea, that sucks and my condolences to you Joe.
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Thanks Worth. They can really get under your skin without ever saying a word. It was a very tough loss. Still hurts.
@mrsoars6 жыл бұрын
I'm very sorry for your loss, I took the sign as a Christian reference- however, for anybody who has ever been blessed with a good dog-it's hard to imagine Heaven without them.
@johntaylor13106 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the good info
@jeffbeck65016 жыл бұрын
I am glad I subscribed to this awesome channel. It's good to see Al Bundy making a come back.
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Peg and the kids are happy too.
@douglasclockmaker87796 жыл бұрын
As usual have learned some new Was always impressed with my 10 meter long curls. Time to rethink.
@roysjomark86586 жыл бұрын
Douglas Clockmaker we could start a new Me too group 😣
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Guilty Here too.
@roysjomark86586 жыл бұрын
😂😂👍
@wlogue6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe! We used to get some gnarly snake chips when boring stern tubes on ships, 60" bore 0.45 or so on a side. Hairy...they'd cut to the bone and cotterize in one swipe. Stay safe, Will
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
I've had that happen many times. Hurts like a dog and doesn't even have the courtesy to bleed.
@metalshopwithtroy57556 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe, I did learn something that I had forgotten
@merlinmagnus8736 жыл бұрын
Love those hot chips. Had a big O1 tool steel chip lodge in the crease of my neck the other day. Dang, that smarts.
@miketownsend61086 жыл бұрын
you are awesome; i told my buddy about you; im a old machine builder. he was tool die . i think you forgot more then i ever new LOL
@bambiluong97596 жыл бұрын
I am glad to see your video Joe ,you have a new student on your channel ,thank you sir.
@gyromike19666 жыл бұрын
Another good video Joe. I'm not a real machinist, but I'm the closest thing they got at the shop. We have a 15x40 and I have a double-ended TPG tool holder for turning and facing. It has the chip breakers on each end, but I usually end up with long strings. I think I'll sacrifice a view pieces in the interest of science and see how hard I can push things. I need to make up a feeds and speeds chart for different materials anyway. Please keep the videos coming. I made a tool like yours to set lathe tools on center and use it constantly.
@lets_turn_stuff21486 жыл бұрын
dont forget about push back (with barstock that fits the spindle bore) and stay within reasonable parts extension... even when taking multiple passes, especially with auto feeds
@Ujeb086 жыл бұрын
great little video Joe! Very thoroughly explained.
@johnv3416 жыл бұрын
Another really informative video Joe, thanks. But you need to learn the magic words to get the focus right. (As per AVE).
@stxrynn6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. My old gear can do this on occasion. Thanks for the watch words. Those make it easy to understand.
@reprapmlp6 жыл бұрын
AvE knows the incantation to get a camera to focus.
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Its a nice camera, but too much tech isn't always good. A manual focus mode is probably in there somewhere.
@kyorising6 жыл бұрын
haha I think exactly his phrase every time I see a video where they have trouble getting focus
@klaudiuszek20016 жыл бұрын
reprapmlp nice to see another AvE fan here... Did you come here from r/Skookum
@mrfrog33506 жыл бұрын
Very cool Joe. A lot safer than a birdsnest too.Thanks for posting.
@mohamedtarekzayan7475 жыл бұрын
very very very useful video thank you very much we wish to see a lot of good teachers like you
@joepie2215 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@dustinmasters92396 жыл бұрын
This was great! I’ve been applying this all week, and it’s been working out great! Thanks!
@bobjohnson67432 жыл бұрын
I once made a chip intencianally trying that was 43 feet 3 inches long, and enjoyed it. It was out of aluminum 6061.
@dustinmasters92396 жыл бұрын
Nice! I’ve been turning a lot of aluminum the last few days and really needed this! Thanks!
@PhaseConverterampV6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff JP. I agree with it all as per usual. Only thing I do different is hog with medium rougher WNMG. .015-0.020 FPR. U just can’t beat the cost of turning using W inserts, and they will produce optimal chips.
@thejonoaffair6 жыл бұрын
Mate, great job! I've learned so much from watching your channel. Keep it up!
@MrSlickbead6 жыл бұрын
I hope they pay you very well there Joe. Top notch machinist! Learned a lot from your videos. Have a PM1228 here and I need to try to push it a little harder and see if I can get better chips on Chrome and Stainless
@derekauret85742 жыл бұрын
thank you for the no frills show .....I like it
@joepie2212 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@TroubledTimes20246 жыл бұрын
"If the chips are long, it's wrong" or "If you want to know, watch Joe" :)
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Love it. Thank you.
@archerchance62143 жыл бұрын
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@jonathanphoenix25143 жыл бұрын
@Archer Chance Instablaster ;)
@archerchance62143 жыл бұрын
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@archerchance62143 жыл бұрын
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@MrJugsstein6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you back infrount of the camera. Enjoyed the video
@keithnoneya6 жыл бұрын
WOW, never knew that Joe. Thanks for the great tip, once again. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
@Fredruiz6226 жыл бұрын
Wow, great video! Randy Richards recommended I watch this video am glad I did!
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Thats good to know. What forum did he make this recommendation on?
@Infinitesap6 жыл бұрын
As always thanks for your great videos. Please do some learning videos for absolute beginners with different applications of metal work and advice :)
@Fr1day-RT6 жыл бұрын
You can also also undercut the leading edge of a drill with a dremel and a diamond bit for a quick resharpen (if the center point is still good) and create a chip breaker at the same time. I've done it to get though some nasty gummy materials. Also on the lathe if your not turning right up to the chuck you can make a chip deflector that mounts to the tool post to keep the chips off you. C's and 6's rock they heatsink the tool and the part and are much nicer if you have to shovel. They're also less likely to break a conveyor. Avoid polyester clothing as they will melt it.
@campnut60763 жыл бұрын
I took advantage of an offer to spend 8 weeks at our local Vo Tech in a course for advanced machining. With 2 weeks to go the instructor asked if we had any questions, I told him I wanted to break the chip in 316 SS during finish cuts, he ignored me. The last week I took a piece of 316 SS shafting in and asked the same question. He confiscated the shaft and said I might not be able to break that chip. I was disappointed to say the least. I can do it on heavy cuts but not on finish cuts no matter what insert I have tried.
@Factory4005 жыл бұрын
Great information Joe - thanks. Now, I need to force the machinists at my new job to watch your videos. They make strings all day long and cannot understand why I shake my head. They seem to think being a machinist is only hitting dimensions. I tell them they have to hit the dimensions QUICKLY, with as few tools as possible. Baby steps.
@joepie2215 жыл бұрын
Some material is less cooperative than others, but if all is well, push it and break those chips. Believe it or not, sometimes the only difference is coolant.
@Factory4005 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 aaaah yes...coolant! Another topic that seems to be ignored by many.
@patrickroeill87466 жыл бұрын
thanks joe your a good supervisor
@mrayco6 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always Mr Joe go ahead we all like ❤your videos.
@brianwarburton44826 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe, another great video.
@ronmonahan16966 жыл бұрын
awesome teaching as always! thanks joe
@CryhavocMike6 жыл бұрын
Joe, I love watching your videos but I have to confess that I watch them mostly for the "idea of the technique" as I do not have access to large tools. I've only been seriously dabbling with machining for about a year and am limited right now to my Sherline manual equipment. But recently I had to whittle down a 2" piece to .4something". I really liked the finishes I get with HSS tools but I ran up against the rats nest problem in spades trying to turn that piece down. I then put a carbide insert tool I have and worked on pushing it and could almost get chips like you show. What would happen is that it would start out a rats nest but by the end of the cut it would be spitting out little chips. The carbide tool is a 1/4" TCMT and I was turning a 1900rpm at about .01 deep per side. I tried both dry cutting and I have Boelube. Never thought to try WD-40. I woundering if it is even possible to get the chips like you describe on smaller machines. Even this 2" piece I was using is rare as I usually work smaller diameters and am thinking bending will be a problem trying to push it like you describe to make the chips. Maybe a lathe follower???
@zumbazumba16 жыл бұрын
What i seen from experience working in a small shops in 80% of the time you will never have to take such a deep cut on a long distance to make it worth wile to mess with the settings.Machining costs money and material so usualy you will take rod size that is closest to your measurements.Sometimes you will take maybe 1 or 2 passes to get to the size you want but even that isnt worty of time unless you make 500 peaces which you will rarely do.
@rbrown61115 жыл бұрын
Great info and good stuff. Thanks Joe!
@richardkicklighter12026 жыл бұрын
Dude! Your art is fantastic. You got isometric view down pat. OK now I'm nervous; I'm going to grind a high-speed steel tool, and make some C's & 6's ( I hope)... Thanks for the super info!
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it works out.
@tomharrell19546 жыл бұрын
Joe Pie Great Job machine man. Your doin it. Machinist have the hardest tools
@buixote6 жыл бұрын
Sure wish we learned this in class... Birdnest City over there...
@chasingcapsaicin6 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, all hail the `hmm that's a tough one to fill in..
@freethinkerofny91876 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I learned something today
@markwentland31476 жыл бұрын
Thx Joe i learned something right there for sure !!!
@tuscanland6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you Sir!
@pearcemachineshop52006 жыл бұрын
If you want to know ask Joe😁 couldn't agree more, however as they say everyone's a hero in ally, could you give us some wisdom with hard steel using HSS, there's a few people I would to meet in my life time and your one of them so please don't think I'm trying to criticise, I always look forward to videos cos I know I going to learn something, keep up the good work Pie man. Regards Alan.
@dmitryvalberg14256 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video! Could you maybe consider making video about most basic how to get started on a lathe? I have been thinking about getting one for a few years, but since I never seen one in persona I'm a bit afraid / sceptical.
@pierresgarage26876 жыл бұрын
My favorite chips are nature and rippled with salsa... :) Sometimes it takes longer to find a sweet spot than do the actual job... ;)
@ScottieSharpe6 жыл бұрын
Joe, great video and I always learn something when I watch your stuff. When you say "if that tool would dry out, it would probably just break off" , what do you mean by that? Keep the WD40 on? Keep the temp down? Can you elaborate?
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
If a flowing chip cold welds to the top of the tool, the material behind it has no place to go. It forms a dry dam and it doesn't usually end well. keep dabbing on a coolant to keep and material transfer to your tool surface to an absolute minimum.
@MaturePatriot6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have recommended it to several others.
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir.
@MaturePatriot6 жыл бұрын
Nice art work, wish I could draw. Two things, 1) we put chip breakers on our tools in the late '60s in HS Machine Shop, but they would not let us run those old machines like that; 2) I always wondered why people were using carbide on aluminum when HHS works great. Especially when they don't run it hard enough to get the chips to break. - Cannot find that tool holder on the Kennametal site?
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
That insert topper/chipbreaker is normally use with the TPG insert. It has been on that tool since I bought it. Check Dorian tool holders. they seem to be the closest thing to this holder. www.grainger.com/category/indexable-turning-tool-holders/indexable-turning/indexable-tools/machining/ecatalog/N-1d36Z1z059by
@James-fs4rn6 жыл бұрын
👍thanks Joe. Good stuff
@ronguenther-sn4sz9 ай бұрын
Awesome I've never had the nerve to take big bites like you demonstrated. I struggle with getting perfect finishes on various materials, faster speeds & slower feeds with light cuts is my go to at the present still not the best. I've used both HSS & carbide various tip widths, no "consistency" when last pass to spot on size wanting the perfect finish, winds up it is what it is 😢, using a Monarch CY16, only 500+- RPM lathe speed available. maybe you can give me a few tips or do a short how to video, i'm sure there's others that might struggle with consistency also. Happy New Year, thanks for all your efforts & time making videos, I've learned tons 😁
@TheCommo816 ай бұрын
My neighbor has been a machinist for over 40 years. He told me if you get it close, just use sand paper for the rest. It may take a little longer, but you can always take away from what you are making but cannot add to it. That's what I practice. I'm using one of them chinese 7x14 mini lathes 0-2000RPM. My steel RPM is 225-325 depending on the steel and aluminum is around 325-375. Can't go by the machinists handbook with this tiny machines unfortunately. I don't take massive cuts because I don't think my machine has the rigidity to do so, but I've made lots of things on it within specs and it just takes me a little longer is all. When I hit the lottery I'll buy a 30 thousand dollar lathe and a bridgeport milling machine lol.
@angelaterry63596 жыл бұрын
thanks Joe! great video. would love to see you make a video on parts cosmetics! I do a good job of hitting my sizes but would like more info on making the parts apperance better / more professional!! thanks again for a
@joelong43016 жыл бұрын
i try to get chips like that but we work with mainly tool steels. i have to try not to go through inserts quickly. i run coolant on all my tools the majority of the time
@tilliesinabottle3 жыл бұрын
those are "klinkers" by the sound they make when they fall. smaller ones are "tickers" and that's if you can hear them at all. What does the big planer from the Sultzer-Winterthor video make? "klangers"
@joepie2213 жыл бұрын
I toured Bethlehem steel when I was in school. They had a lathe so big, the chips being produced looked like coil springs from the front of a car. A front end loader worked non stop to clear them as they fell. The machine was surrounded with a very tall chain link fence to keep the chips from bouncing away and killing someone. It made quite an impression.
@g001670156 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the machinist's dance...............when one of those little critters goes down inside the front of your shirt 😁🕺🤣
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
I know it well.
@larryschweitzer49045 жыл бұрын
Or hot chips in your shoes.
@manofausagain6 жыл бұрын
If you increase your nose radius you can get those chips with lower depth of cut. Only issue is keeping feed up and working to an edge.
@Caughtitoutdoors6 жыл бұрын
Love the R.I.P to Ruger on the board
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
He was a great dog. I miss him.
@Tryin2FlyII6 жыл бұрын
Great Video as always Joe!! I can remember when I was a young boy (7 or 8 ) my Dad would come home from work and take his work boots off outside and one day I asked him why he always did that?He told me to go look at the bottom off his boots and they were COVERED ( and cut up like mince meat) with chips cut deep into the rubber & they looked exactly like "Cs" and "6s" I"ll never forget that!! because to this day that is what I remember most was the shape and SHARPNESS of those blueish straw colored little curls of metal on his boots LOL _ Thanks for the video and the memory!
@wheelitzr26 жыл бұрын
I've got a couple videos of making some C's and 6's, not in aluminum but steel and stainless.
@krazziee20006 жыл бұрын
great lesson ,, thanks..
@jackwilson41976 жыл бұрын
Well that the way to do it but I take .250 to. 375 per side granted, the lathes at work are huge 32" swing up to 62 inch very powerful the chips will fuck you up ! wreck dial indcator lens .chip melt to your skin , like to post videos but my boss won't let me but with that said, God bless keep up the great work joe
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Ran an 18-140 gap bed Mazak for years. They were fun but dangerous.
@jackwilson41976 жыл бұрын
Joe Pieczynski lathes I'm running now Meuser made in West Germany. I have cut .750 per side on 4140 32 swing but we have tos 42 swing , lodge &Shipley 52" swing 10 in hole through
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
The biggest lathe I have ever been next to was at Bethlehem Steel in PA. They used a crane to load the carbide inserts and the operator sat in a control room with a bucket seat mounted to the carriage. I believe the bed was 400 feet long and it had an 18 foot swing.
@jackwilson41976 жыл бұрын
Joe Pieczynski lol that's a big machine. some times I get a laugh when a new guy comes to the shop ,and he see me sharping hss tool bit 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 square, he thought he's 3/4 tool bit was large. Have a great day joe God bless
@horneygeorgeforge70796 жыл бұрын
THANKS FOR SHARING!
@PrettyHateMachining6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more videos like this. As an amateur it's really helpful.
@pablogamba16516 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for passing your knowledge un to us. I do have a request can you do a video on positioning the height on these tools I seem to have a bit of a rough time figuring out if I need to go up or down to get right cut Thanks again!
@sparticusVI6 жыл бұрын
Pablo Gamba he does have a video about tool height on the lathe. Just look through his channel. I think he made a piece of scrap the exact height to the center of the spindle. He explains it pretty well.
@brandontscheschlog6 жыл бұрын
Very Cool!
@ugotit33x6 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THE INFO
@roswalt16 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great, informative video Joe. I have a question for you. I am trying to make eight height extension/ leveling pads for my lathe and am using 3" mild steel. I am trying to face cut them to the same thickness. The issue I am running into is that the first of the facing cut I am getting a birds nest around the tool. About 1/4" into the facing cut I am getting long tight spirals and then when I get within an inch I am getting the Cs and 6s. I am using an insert for the cutting tool and the chips are deep blue until the last inch where they are grey. Is this normal? Should I be doing something different? I am new to metal work and I appreciate any advise anyone can give. Thanks again for all that you do.
@roswalt16 жыл бұрын
I figured that the difference in chips was due to the sfpm but I was wondering if I needed to change anything or if I am doing it correctly. What I started doing was interrupting the cut, backing the tool away from the work in order to clear the rats nest before continuing with the cut. My aim is to learn best practices and replace any bad practices. Thanks
@lets_turn_stuff21486 жыл бұрын
sfm... would require unlimited revolutions from your machine, when your cutting tip reaches '0'. As you cant catch up with revs the strain on your tool gets pretty extreme. birds nest can ruin your finish, break your tooling, use a tool to remove the chips. Don't go overboard with revs, stick to something reasonable in consideration with your workpiece size.
@deltamachine20596 жыл бұрын
You know you're doing good When you stall the machine out
@jesseskellington94274 ай бұрын
Do you have a video on taking square stock and turning into round stock, chips feeds and speeds for this operation? :-)
@areyouavinalaff6 жыл бұрын
A minor burn from a smallish chip can only be better than a potentially nasty gash from a long stringy one. g00167015 mentioned the machinist's dance, lol but as someone who's done a fair bit of overhead welding... I've taken tiny spatter burns like a champ to get that weld done. but the beauty of welding over machining is if you let go of the trigger it stops doing what it's doing... a long stringy chip with a rotating motor isn't so forgiving.
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
The bad chips are the blue ones that jump on the machine control handles just at the moment you have to disengage the feed. Burn deep or crash the machine.
@Smallathe6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful explanation. Not all machines can push that snount of material. Mine is small and my machine "heavy cut"in brass or sluminum is never thicker than 0.2mm. I wonder if there is a way to design low speed/fine cut chip breakers? What if you were to drill into the tool steel and then remove material to form a 3/4 turn chip breaker? Or an r shaped groove in your chip breaker that will force the chips to turn sideways ( away from the user) increasing the forces on the chip and producing more c's and 6'ers even at lower speeds?
@lets_turn_stuff21486 жыл бұрын
I'd say, you'd have a jammed chip breaker or broken insert, considering the depth of groove and room required and agressiveness of fresh chips. its more of a guide and dont produce rats nests feature you are looking for.
@Smallathe6 жыл бұрын
Good one... I don't know myself - and I'm interested to find out. In the meantime I satisfy myself by turning brass - a natural chip forming material, very easy and fun to turn and very nice finishes are easily obtainable. I will do some tests one day, when I get a bigger lathe.
@lets_turn_stuff21486 жыл бұрын
the heat discoloration of longer chips is ... wow ;p i already liked the kinda unnatural lighter blues steel produces. with normal inserts and smaller parts the sfm and revs totally disagree with each other. carbide, its natural brittleness and edge sharpness is another issue in combination with 'performance' coatings, which act kinda like a foundation of modern machining. Just thinking back to the idea of ceramic drills... btw. HSS would normally be an option, self ground, or i've seen inserts as well.
@Smallathe6 жыл бұрын
Agreed on HSS vs. carbide - both are good options but I mostly use carbide tips. As for the heat and coloration - patina or oxide layer formed on the steel - I never see that as I have to take 0.05mm steps when handling stainless, steel or anything harder than brass or aluminum. The drawbacks of a small lathe and a low-power motor. That's why I'm interested in breaking chips formed via thin, slow speed turning. Just wondering... :)
@tonio37236 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe. Any suggestions for lighter finishing passes? I hate it when the finishing pass birdnests and ruins the finish on the last cut.
@smallcnclathes6 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to the answer to your question, it is difficult to push harder on a finish cut.
@wjb1116 жыл бұрын
Leave more stock for the finish pass and or a more aggressive chip breaker.
@tonio37236 жыл бұрын
wjb111 So that begs another question. How do you handle a tight tolerance? Do you sneak up on it, or can you get to it with a substantial final pass? I avoid sneaking up on dimensions where possible, but sometimes it seems to be the only way unless I want to risk ruining the part. I'm talking about manual machining without a DRO here.
@worthdoss80436 жыл бұрын
Lathe revolution/feet per minute, feed speed, depth of cut and tool angle all are important in the perfect chip and smooth finish. I kept experimenting until I stopped getting big hairy hot wigs in the face. LOL
@tr0llaccount6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your informative videos. I know nothing about machining, but find it fascinating. Would you mind explaining why Cs and 6s are preferred? Something to do with heat or tool life?
@joandar16 жыл бұрын
C's and 6's are preferred as the shavings/chip's are not a continuous strand that can be picked up by the rotating job or chuck. They are short individual pieces. Long strands if picked up can slice you to pieces or grab you and drag you into the rotating machine/job. Just remember machines don't make mistakes, people do. You should be fine if you follow that rule. Cheers from John, Australia.
@andrewmcgregor67542 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe. Yet another great video but I have a question if I may. I try to use feed and speed tables for new materials but they don’t cover depth of cut. Other than the safety aspects is there any advantage to C/6 chips in the standard of finish or productivity? Would the trial and error based result ever conflict with feed/speed formulas I wonder?
@1SmokedTurkey13 жыл бұрын
You're ballsy man...I never go over 700rpm on my bench top lathe..and that's for finishing cuts lol I'm a newb machinist though just started a few months back. Curious what kind of lube you use? Anything other than Tap Magic you recommend?
@macdaddymcgrady6 жыл бұрын
Assume this doesn’t really apply for a fine finishing cut when you want to get down to final dimension? How about the desired chip when drilling on the lathe?
@g001670156 жыл бұрын
macdaddymcgrady When drilling, interrupt or dwell with your hand feed every few seconds so the chips will get cut off in bitesize/manageable pieces maybe a couple or three inches long.
@braxtonec6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! Definitely expanded my boundary of knowledge. With regard to steel, what chip color would you consider ideal? I haven't pushed any cutter to C/6's yet, but I'd like to know a "safeword" when I start making cuts.
@joepie2216 жыл бұрын
Any chip that turns blue is pulling heat off the work piece and is normal. I start to worry when they are gray.