C6 Bennett - A 3 Year Old Debate With Merit on Both Sides

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Ratheil

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Should you or should you not accept C6 Bennett, that is the debate that still manages to come up somewhat frequently despite all the time that has passed. Both sides have reasons to pick and it's up to you which sounds right for you.
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@Ratheil
@Ratheil 9 ай бұрын
I'll hold out until toggleable cons come out or forever in hopes of a better Phys character that actually wants Bennett.
@Alpiwhat
@Alpiwhat 9 ай бұрын
Toggleable cons would be a useless feature to any other character it would only be used on co-op so your bennett dont ruin someone's ayaka
@llerraf
@llerraf 9 ай бұрын
the captain, probably
@kienduong342
@kienduong342 9 ай бұрын
​@@Alpiwhat still would be an inclusion that hurts no one and could open up some interesting challenges
@samuelcastillo5246
@samuelcastillo5246 9 ай бұрын
I agree with you *BUT* I personally, I don't want to get toggle constellations, Since I was a kid, my dad has always told me *"we don't regret our decisions, no matter how bad they were"*
@darylewalker6862
@darylewalker6862 9 ай бұрын
@@AlpiwhatIt’s good for theory-crafters and other testers that already whaled out.
@harunomasu5956
@harunomasu5956 9 ай бұрын
I believe that C6 Bennett doom curse is only applicable to those in the early game or those who played during 1.0-1.6 patch. After Inazuma, a lot of characters now have the explanation of "cannot be overridden" whether in their skill, burst, or passive. As you said, there are many teams nowadays don't even require Bennett. I've C6 my Bennett a long time ago. As well as all my friends. It doesn't even affect us or our account in any way.
@LordEcks
@LordEcks 9 ай бұрын
Its mostly high investment Eula players, and C6 Kazuha players being the main groups who regret C6 Benny. Definitely a minority in the playerbase.
@lewisthellama2569
@lewisthellama2569 9 ай бұрын
I just wish theyd say something in a dev diary type thing that this was done to counteract C6 Bennett infusion and similar abilities. That way there would be some security going forward
@TybossMaster
@TybossMaster 9 ай бұрын
​@@LordEckseula is terrible with Bennett
@DG_Toti
@DG_Toti 9 ай бұрын
@@TybossMasterif I had eula (which I don’t sadly) i’d personally pair her with, say: sara, layla, raiden, rosaria, jean, charlotte or furina. All those characters I think would work better with her than bennett.
@paulyvii
@paulyvii 9 ай бұрын
@@LordEcksAnd people who run Melt Ayaka, which I have in the past. So ike 0.000000000001% of the playerbase then 😂😂
@MarinetteWinters
@MarinetteWinters 9 ай бұрын
I used to be so scared of C6 Bennett, bc of all the videos that said it was bad. Then I did more research and realized that he affected characters and teams I never planned on using AND helped teams and characters that I ALWAYS use. So the second I got his final constellation, I C6-ed and I'm happy with it ^-^
@siska_yuri
@siska_yuri Ай бұрын
Can you give me examples, please? 😊 ayaka , hu tao ... ?
@stealthguy6998
@stealthguy6998 9 ай бұрын
I enabled it and I saw no difference. The teams that I use him for were not affected by the pyro infusion, but the annoying marker is gone. So a win-win
@oliviaaargh
@oliviaaargh 9 ай бұрын
Plus it allows you to play Thundering Furry which imo is the third most fun team in the game lol
@stealthguy6998
@stealthguy6998 9 ай бұрын
@@oliviaaargh I don't remember which team that is. Is it the Razor Hyperbloom, but with Burgeon? Because I remember something like that, but with Candace
@oliviaaargh
@oliviaaargh 9 ай бұрын
@@stealthguy6998 Yeah, using Razor, C6 Bennett, Xingqiu and Nahida. It's sooo fun
@stealthguy6998
@stealthguy6998 9 ай бұрын
@@oliviaaargh it does seem pretty fun, I want to try it at some point
@CelVini
@CelVini 5 ай бұрын
Your Pyro characters also enjoy the C6 15 pyro damage bonus
@AevyCh
@AevyCh 9 ай бұрын
C6 Bennett can override C6 Kazuha & Lynette, but it's actually a good thing since you can enable Weapon Swirl. Weapon Swirling lets you swirl Pyro in situations that doesn't allow you to do so such as when fighting Elemental enemies (Shielded enemies, Hydro Eidolons/Tulpas, Electro Manifestation etc.).
@lafeechloe6998
@lafeechloe6998 9 ай бұрын
Jean already allows you to do that with sunfire
@f.b.iagent3971
@f.b.iagent3971 9 ай бұрын
But Bennett also infuses the character with Pyro, and the swirl target prioritises the element applied to the character above all, plus Pyro is the stickiest element, it’s hard not to swirl Pyro when standing inside Benny’s ring, C6 or not
@AevyCh
@AevyCh 9 ай бұрын
@@f.b.iagent3971 Weapon Infusion ≠ Character Infusion. Weapon Infusion applies an element to your weapon, not on yourself. Character Infusion applies an element to yourself, not your weapon. C0 Bennett applies an element to your character. C6 Bennett applies an element to your character AND your weapon. Elemental Reactions also applies to your weapons. But the only way to trigger reactions out of it is by infusing with another element. Take note that any abilities that specifically state that the infusion cannot be overriden actually means that you cannot apply another element to the weapon for a specific duration.
@AevyCh
@AevyCh 9 ай бұрын
@@lafeechloe6998 Yes but this method is cooler :)
@daisies9368
@daisies9368 9 ай бұрын
I use bennett, kazuha, and a DPS yelan and it works fantastically. I always had trouble constantly applying pyro bc yelan does best when enemies constantly have pyro so she can vape 100% of the time.
@JDavi-nl1rc
@JDavi-nl1rc 9 ай бұрын
Besides pyro Keqing and Zhongli, Bennett's C6 also enables the infamous Thundering Furry team with Razor (for those who don't know, it's basically a burgeon team using Razor as an on-fielder using bennett's C6 infusion to trigger burgeons, while also using his ult's Stand to apply electro and prevent the burning aura, and self-overloading to make a very chaotic and fun experience). I just feel like Hoyo has been widening the scope of characters and the once big Bennett C6 discussion has been more and more pointless as less teams need him and his big big synergies with pyro carries stand out way more than him possibly messing up teams that can function without him regardless.
@kuekejuu5057
@kuekejuu5057 9 ай бұрын
thundering fury razor is actually a pretty strong team, both in single target and AOE, you just build them with EM and enough ER so that razor can reliably burst every rotation.
@protoman1214
@protoman1214 8 ай бұрын
@@kuekejuu5057 I appreciate a more up to date perspective on c6 Bennet. All the discussion I have seen is dated and many even specifically name Razor as a character who's potential is ruined by C6 Bennet. What I find most interesting is how people who insist C6 Bennet is horrible admit they have never tried it. How informed is that perspective when they never actually tried it? Looking at just the theoretical of it is pretty silly.
@releefgamer9524
@releefgamer9524 9 ай бұрын
I dont know how long youve had a tiny raccoon running along the bottom of the screen to show how much of the video is left but i love it
@somedude6351
@somedude6351 9 ай бұрын
Imagine if Mihoyo added toggleable constellations right after this video, now that would be hilarious (Mihoyo this is a plead to add toggleable constellations, please)
@shiny_starry
@shiny_starry 9 ай бұрын
The funniest thing about this debate for me is that I would've been anti c6 but about a year ago my account was hacked and when I recovered it my bennet had is c6 active which made me realize that only like 2 teams are actually affected by his c6 in a negative way.
@planetary-rendez-vous
@planetary-rendez-vous 9 ай бұрын
Shit man, he hacked your account only to C6 Bennet...
@Cankun-theboi
@Cankun-theboi 7 ай бұрын
The hacker really just did that to get rid of the red notification 💀
@LittleMissZackyVee
@LittleMissZackyVee 9 ай бұрын
i also think certain content creators perpetuated the "C6 bennet is bad and if you activate it you ruin your account dummy" aggression a little too much making people afraid to do so. I did it and dont regret it at all. my favorite element in gensshin is pyro and the dmg boost really helps
@poklours4257
@poklours4257 9 ай бұрын
yeah there are a lot of people who are vehemently against C6 Bennett because that's like the one thing they think is absolute, but they just never question it.
@pochaccito.1
@pochaccito.1 9 ай бұрын
I def know which content creator you’re talking about…
@VrtielA6300
@VrtielA6300 9 ай бұрын
Keqing was in ruined because of Bennett
@LittleMissZackyVee
@LittleMissZackyVee 9 ай бұрын
yea but now with hyperbloom id argue she doesnt need him @@VrtielA6300
@cbqgreengd3807
@cbqgreengd3807 9 ай бұрын
@@VrtielA6300 most players pair Keqing with dendro characters now so c6 Bennett doesn't matter
@BamaMophi
@BamaMophi 8 ай бұрын
I’m glad to know the pyro buff does apply to bow and catalysts as well. When I got Lyney, I was very close to unlocking that last constellation for Bennett before I reread it and thought it only applied to melee units. That being said, I do like using him mainly in my Physical Xinyan team, so it is still a big consideration for me
@plvto1
@plvto1 9 ай бұрын
I love C6 Bennett as it literally allows anyone to be a Pyro DPS. I ran a team, Furina Crimson Witch Vape and it was one of the funniest teams I ever built.
@Laerei
@Laerei 9 ай бұрын
Pyro Shogun is the funniest thing I have seen. MASSIVE pyro and overload damage, with just normal attacks reacting with her skill. Just slap pyro artifacts on your Shogun, pair her with C6 Bennet and watch the hilarity ensue.
@Susan-vi1jh
@Susan-vi1jh 9 ай бұрын
​@@Laereioh... It gets better when Cher debut with raiden rerun(idk how to spell her name properly sorry)
@maevethefox5912
@maevethefox5912 8 ай бұрын
​@Laerei playing this right now with Chevreuse is so so hilarious
@Darky-Pooh
@Darky-Pooh 9 ай бұрын
I C6'ed Bennett when I got Yoimiya. Do I regret it? Nope. In fact - it was one of the best decisions. I don't play with Physical characters and most characters have their own infusion (Alhaithem, Raiden, Tartaglia). My XL and Yoimiya love that C6 constalation (who doesn't love a bit more dmg). So... I personally recommend you C6 it, UNLESS - you are NEW player with LIMITED character roaster OR you are EULA player. C6 him. It doesnt hurt.
@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58
@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 9 ай бұрын
Even for Eula, her best team is now Eula/Furina/Mika/Raiden. Again, Bennett isn't mandatory anymore for her
@beanverysmol
@beanverysmol 9 ай бұрын
ngl i just did it cause i hated the ! thats about it
@kiel127
@kiel127 9 ай бұрын
I can't ever enable C6 bc I main Benny with Chongyun for that sweet quick melt dmg. Both of them have kits that shortens CD and seeing as Benny's skill already has a low CD, it's a really neat niche team comp.
@choty7066
@choty7066 9 ай бұрын
I always watch this as someone with c1 bennet
@TheHolyElfOfBull
@TheHolyElfOfBull 9 ай бұрын
I have c6 Bennett, and as an Eula main I often use him to show her burst DMG, because the pyro infusion helps Eula not defeat everything before her 30 stacks is built up. Still then I sometimes have problems geting the hp of my opponent below 50%.
@negspirito
@negspirito 9 ай бұрын
Bennett's pyro infusion is vital for Razor's best team "Thundering Furry". It's also helpful in Sunfire teams, as although the effect is great at maintaining a pyro aura, it can struggle creating the aura in the first place and that little bit extra pyro application gives it the edge it needs
@moneymoneymoney6777
@moneymoneymoney6777 9 ай бұрын
I can't think of a single downside for toggle-able constellations, even back in the 2.2 Labyrinth Warriors event there was a temporary buff that would increase your party's constellations by 1 (it visually worked on Aloy, but no actual effect), so the only reason I think it'll never be an option is probably some obtuse lore to gameplay explanation I'd love to be proven wrong and Hoyoverse adds it, then it's a win for everyone
@lazyremnant380
@lazyremnant380 9 ай бұрын
While there's no downside, I think there's no upside for other characters either. I mean, why would you want to toggle off Neuvillette's C6, for example? To make the game less boring?
@xingyunyuri
@xingyunyuri 9 ай бұрын
I can think of one which one be more trolls in co op, but it’s not really a big deal anyways since we already have infusion characters
@4NSW3RM3
@4NSW3RM3 9 ай бұрын
8:37, Kazuha watches a poor girl drown for 5 seconds like a psychopath. Anywho, I don't necessarily regret activating C6, but I know it's kinda limited my Eula. Granted, she still hits like a truck, so it's not too bad. IT just makes her artifacts a bigger chokepoint than they were before. Also, any chance you'd do a video on thoughts about MHY revamping/redesigning characters? With Star Rail having pure HP scalers, it made me wonder if any of the characters who's entire kit scales off something other than attack (Baizhu, Yun Jin) would get their normal attacks to be scaled off the alternative stat. We've seen them give Fontaine characters new cons that effect their normal attack talent, but thta is different from changing a past character.
@dan2800
@dan2800 9 ай бұрын
albedo C2 changes him into full DEF scaler maybe there are more characters but only albedo comes to my mind
@darylewalker6862
@darylewalker6862 9 ай бұрын
HSR’s pure-HP scalers are all supports who are not supposed to contribute (much) to the team’s ass-kicking level. I’m talking about Lynx, Huohuo, and Fu Xuan; Blade technically scales off both ATK and HP, so the general buffers aren’t useless for him. (Huohuo has an ATK buff, which means she can’t self-serve!)
@4NSW3RM3
@4NSW3RM3 9 ай бұрын
@@darylewalker6862 You're 100% right, but to me, that just makes it more baffling that we don't see alternative scaling in Genshin. You can do some whacky builds in Star Rail, but being a turn-based game, the numbers and role designs limit the viability of a character acting as DPS. You're not clearing MoC with Lynx as your main DPS. In contrast, investment (money or in-game resources) + skill + game knowledge can make any character capable of being a DPS in the abyss. So with their roles not being so hard-defined, why not make all their talents scale to the same stat? That being said, not a big deal at all, just thought it might make a semi-interesting topic.
@treeleven3316
@treeleven3316 9 ай бұрын
I think with the introduction of chev in 4.3, those keqing / bennet teams are going to be popping up again so it might be fun to revisit those. I have c6 Lynette and c5 bennet and although it’s fun and all, I actually really prefer Lynette as a sub dps (probably because I don’t have faruzan c6). Open world she’s very serviceable at c6 tho and her self healing on her E.
@ubeia4857
@ubeia4857 9 ай бұрын
I like having options so my Bennett remains at C5 for the foreseeable future. I know being C6 gives him new options but honestly, I don't use those options at the moment. Like the option to allow Kaeya to melt his own ult, but I don't use Kaeya at all. I have no use for his pyro infusion on any of the teams I want to use him on and on teams I want to use him, being C6 gets in the way. What makes it better for me is that leaving him at C5 gives me the option to C6 him at any time but going C6 don't give me any option to op out of it. Unless they add a constellation toggle, which might happen but unlikely, I won't be unlocking that constellation at all.
@woolfiegamer2558
@woolfiegamer2558 8 ай бұрын
As a Lyney main I'm at C5 and looking forward to getting my final Bennett copy from the shop or the standard banner or hopefully from a future banner I'm saving for (currently saving for Itto and Arlecchino)
@f.09h
@f.09h 9 ай бұрын
C6 Kazuha and C6 Bennett actually have a really fun interaction -- whenever Kazuha tries to infuse himself but he's in C6 Benny's burst, it'll swirl on top of Kazuha, because Pyro+Anemo on his weapon = swirl. Then, since Kazuha's C6 makes it so that EM scales his damage up across the board, you can actually just take the ol' EM goblet instead of trying to make a % dmg goblet work on him, and it'll scale his damage up VERY similarly to how it'd be if he took an anemo% or pyro% goblet instead -- only the damage will go up regardless of which type of damage you're doing. You can, in essence, play C6 Kazuha as if he were Pyro or Anemo, without even switching loadouts. It's pretty cool.
@alpha4935
@alpha4935 9 ай бұрын
C6 Kazuha still wants an Anemo goblet because the C6 only increases his normal, charged and plunging attack DMG, and not his skill and burst which still contribute a large portion of his damage, especially in AoE situations where he shines most.
@f.09h
@f.09h 9 ай бұрын
​@@alpha4935 His skill and burst damage go up with EM because his skill and burst use EM for swirls they cause. If your Q/E are swirling, the damage goes up with EM. If they aren't, your team needs more application.
@Joel97_
@Joel97_ 9 ай бұрын
Day 1 player here and Ayaka main. I have barely used Bennett together with her, and if i did, it was in coop, which i dont use them anymore due to having Kokomi now. I was quite afraid of enabling C6, after so much, but i don't mind as much as I thought i would, and the extra damage I've got in National is very pleasing so yeah, that's my experience. I really hope they do add constellations toggles in the future regardless, it being in a huge qol update like 4.3 is or, in a main x.0 update
@mrlampy
@mrlampy 9 ай бұрын
I wish infusions in general were more considered. We hadn’t even got geo infusions until just now with navia and still don’t have a character that can give an external electro/anemo infusion
@redsky397
@redsky397 20 күн бұрын
Itto always had geo infusion tho
@jarrettdiperna8370
@jarrettdiperna8370 9 ай бұрын
Back in my day, I was someone who was really trying to be a Keqing main. Before I could get Keqing (it took well over a year of playing), I heard about the negative effects of C6 Bennett on her physical playstyle, which is what I ended up building towards. Years later, I'm really liking Lynette's style as well, and I play a lot more with characters I like than anything else, but I still never C6'd my Bennett because I knew of his Infusion Overwriting. A bunch of people criticize me for having a "Genshin Boomer" mindset, but I still stand by my decisions until Toggling Cons becomes a thing.
@barny15
@barny15 9 ай бұрын
I finally c6'd him about a month ago just for the heck of it. At this point, I rarely even use Benny, and even when I do, it's on teams where he has zero chance of ruining anything, and having the boost for characters like Xiangling, Diluc and Dehya is nice. Zero shade for anyone who hasn't c6'd him; it's silly that Hoyo hasn't made cons toggle-able.
@otho69AD
@otho69AD 3 ай бұрын
All of your characters being level 89 is driving me actually insane lmao. This was a really great and informative guide on C6 Bennett and you're absolutely right that having fun with the game should always be the main focus of stuff like this
@EbrithilElda
@EbrithilElda 7 ай бұрын
Razor actually wants c6 Bennett so he can really play Thundering Furry
@salceds
@salceds 9 ай бұрын
I'd rather not C6 my Bennett because I enjoy the idea of normal attacking with characters that shouldn't be played optimally with their normal attacks. Granted, Mika alleviates this but I like the idea of having both of my sons in a team. Like you said, I like having him as an option, always.
@alexstewart9592
@alexstewart9592 6 ай бұрын
The probability that any future good physical character wants Bennet is low, because if we get one, they will probably want to be using the Superconduct reaction for the 40% physical res shred, and irrespective of C6 Bennet causes a LOT of Pyro application to all enemies inside his Burst, which kinda gets in the way of the Superconduct since Pyro reacts with and clears both Electro and Cryo. Also, for some reason the developers keep trying to make physical damage work specifcally on Cryo characters, and as such they just need Electro support to get the Superconduct, and Kuki just so happens to provide off-field Electro damage while also being a healer.
@NeberusBeta
@NeberusBeta 9 ай бұрын
Last character that don’t like c6 Bennett was Ayaka back in 2.0, after that characters can’t be affected by it
@Suriyakeng
@Suriyakeng 9 ай бұрын
The only reason I keep Bennett at C5 is because I use Eula. If there are other good buffer for Physical and heal, I C6 my Bennett. I would have done that if Mika is equally as good or better, but he's not.
@JustASunflowerSeeD
@JustASunflowerSeeD 9 ай бұрын
imagine making an entire video about c6 Bennett without talking about his DPS team with Chongyun. like bro, Bennett is absolutely INSANE in melt teams, he's the only characters with a fast pyro application that's also slow enough to consistently melt if you do your rotations right, and c6 ruins it because now you apply too much pyro.
@davidweaver4436
@davidweaver4436 9 ай бұрын
My problem with Bennet is that unlike some other characters, he works one way when you get him, and then suddenly he functions an entirely different way when you get C6 and you can never go back, forcibly forever changing how you would use him, even if it's not THAT big of a change.
@juancaninja
@juancaninja 9 ай бұрын
Even though imI only use Bennett with Xiangling and nuke showcase, I don't like his c6, sometimes i like messing with na/ca "nuke" and his c6 wont allow me to do that
@DrumStixYTChannel
@DrumStixYTChannel 9 ай бұрын
I ended up C6ing my Bennet but that was mainly just cus I got fed up of the red dot being there, but I've also noticed no problems with having him C6 either personally and I don't see that changing in the future
@Matt_82
@Matt_82 9 ай бұрын
A for fun team i use cant have c6 benny, its bennet and chongyun together, the autos will apply cryo for the E to melt, chongyun will reduce bennets cd with c2, so its 100k+ E's with 1,5s cd
@Personpersonpersonperson
@Personpersonpersonperson 9 ай бұрын
Mine is forever c5, as a benny main, melt with chongyun is my favorite team
@DG_Toti
@DG_Toti 9 ай бұрын
My personal hope is not that bennett becomes good for a physical dps, my hope is that one day a physical/superconduct support around bennett’s power level will be released.
@doug3454
@doug3454 9 ай бұрын
Yep. Personally, I'd like for Superconduct itself to also actually benefit Cryo/Electro dmg, but a Bennett-level Physical/Superconduct support and/or an actual Physical off-field dps would also be very welcome additions.
@oldman7503
@oldman7503 Ай бұрын
I maybe 8 months late, but I just got his C5 and want to prepare for his C6 by watching this video. From what I observed the main disadvantage of C6 Bennett is mainly for Physical characters like Eula or Freminet.(I am a Freminet main but I rarely team him up with Bennett) While it brings great buffs for Pryo Sword, Polearm and Claymore DPSs as well as improving Pryo reaction on different teams. Overall I am C6ing him once I get Bennett again. Because pryo infusion looks cool.
@poyudi
@poyudi 8 ай бұрын
When I first played Genshin in the days/weeks after it first came out. I loved using Razor as my main DPS with Bennett backing him up. That's probably why I still refuse to give Bennett his C6. My Razor is ready for the day Physical DPS gets a buff. :3 Likely. Many, Many, Years from now.
@TheMetallingOne
@TheMetallingOne 9 ай бұрын
it really is the lack of toggle that makes me never wanna turn it on.
@wiseSYW
@wiseSYW 9 ай бұрын
with more pyro characters that could benefit from the 15% buff, C6 bennet is the meta now
@andrewmattar4178
@andrewmattar4178 9 ай бұрын
I C6 my Bennett. I was once in a coop and I went with ayaka, while someone else went with Bennett. During battle, Ayaka kept dealing Pyro damage when she supposed to be cryo. So I asked if that Bennett was C6. The player, annoyed, said yes and called me a meta slave then left. My Bennett is C6, but please people, when in Coop, always say if your Bennett is C6 to allow your teammates to choose appropriate characters.
@LordofCreater
@LordofCreater 9 ай бұрын
I was actually shocked when I noticed that my Kazuha didn't have an Anemo infusion anymore when I was in Benny's burst of a friend. Over the years I collected Kazuha's constellations since he is my boy and for that I won't give up my Anemo infusion. Personally I cannot understand why they make constellations for a character which includes an elemental infusion but don't add the "cannot get overwritten" feature. miHoYo only includes that phrase for newer characters while older characters have a severe deficit. For example if I would decide to activate my C6 Benny I won't be able to use my Kazuha with him anymore since Kazuha cannot utilise the Pyro Infusion without running a meme build. I think that miHoYo should add the "cannot get overwritten" feature in every older character which has an elemental infusion in their kit. Especially the infusions given by constellations should include this phrase all the time because you have to pull this specific character multiple times just to get disappointed. For me it's C6 Kazuha and it feels like they don't appreciate the people using a from the game's perspective support as the Main DPS :/
@GenshinYuppe
@GenshinYuppe 9 ай бұрын
noelle has it. so it isn't really just an old character thing, it's on purpose.
@LordofCreater
@LordofCreater 9 ай бұрын
@@GenshinYuppe Noelle is different tho. There are characters who have their elemental infusion in their burst included for that Noelle is not a good example…
@TheSilverHermitMage
@TheSilverHermitMage 9 ай бұрын
Man im glad i didnt give in to the red dot 😂 i honestly dint have any strong feelings towards Bennett's c6, but until we can turn cons on and off, i wont activate it
@speedmark6210
@speedmark6210 9 ай бұрын
I'm keeping my Bennett c5 , I want to keep him versatile. Yes I know Mika & all these other supports exists. But Bennett is just so universal that it's not worth it for me.
@shinf2021
@shinf2021 9 ай бұрын
Never gonna C6 him for 1 reason; it ruins his ability to be the on-field DPS character w/ supporting Chongyun enabling him to Melt all his skills by infusing his normals with Cryo. I've got a lot of nostalgia for this team I ran wayyyyyy back in the day and even though I rarely run it now, I still want to have the option.
@GenshinYuppe
@GenshinYuppe 9 ай бұрын
7:00 mona with r5 prototype amber and instructors (for vape / melt) or noblesse (for your ayaka). plus it becomes a freeze team, which means it'll need less healing and that mona's buff lasts longer
@ShepardCommander
@ShepardCommander 9 ай бұрын
People forget sara exists. She gives the bennet buff and fills a burst dps roll... She even surpasses bennet at c6 in electro teams. Sure she doesn't heal but her damage makes up for any healer you put in the team. Raiden/Sara/yaoyao/flex works ridiculously well. If you got nahida you can go Raiden/Sara/nahida/jean. Sara just doesn't work well with eula unfortunately, but she is still as good as bennet.
@napkinx4341
@napkinx4341 8 ай бұрын
i’m never enabling it unless i get a pyro dps that really wants him and benefits heavily
@pete4416
@pete4416 9 ай бұрын
Enabling thundering furry is enough to make it worth it. All new characters that have infusions can't be overwritten
@Jdogrey1
@Jdogrey1 9 ай бұрын
I C6ed my Bennett so people would stop telling me to use him. I was a Eula main (sort of, since I have been and always will be a Hu Tao main) at the time.
@Destr20yer
@Destr20yer 9 ай бұрын
Ngl i use eula with c6 bennet and shes fine
@HazZzel-
@HazZzel- 9 ай бұрын
As a Lyney main, I c6ed him the instant I could. That extra pyro DMG bonus is juicy and the extra pyro application is nice for swirling. He also enables Xiangling DPS
@oliviaaargh
@oliviaaargh 9 ай бұрын
Xiangling is a DPS though 💀
@worstpartis20068
@worstpartis20068 9 ай бұрын
C6 bennet is how i make My Vaporize Xiao possible 😍
@LeviHill4
@LeviHill4 9 ай бұрын
I will forever have my exclamation point :(
@NLwino
@NLwino 9 ай бұрын
I hardly used Bennett. The only time I really used him was in a team with Xiangling, who I also didn't use that often. When I got C6 Bennett I just immediately activate it for the 15% damage bonus. But then I also got the idea to try out burgeon teams with Kazuha. Which I liked. So now I use Bennett a bit more often thanks to his C6. I guess you don't need C6 for this team, but it is a major improvement to be able to trigger burgeons with you normal hits.
@boringfactor8792
@boringfactor8792 9 ай бұрын
Did back when i didn't know any better and yet still to find any reason for me to hate it or has stopped me from any content
@RogueMastermind
@RogueMastermind 9 ай бұрын
I C6'd Bennett ages ago for the most important reason - the little exclamation point on the character icon went away.
@zower111619
@zower111619 9 ай бұрын
even with eula now you play furina with her so the infusion on bennett's c6 lets you vape her normals which negates the damage loss from her autos being pyro.
@Tovy
@Tovy 9 ай бұрын
Actually bennet overwriting anemo infusion is a good think, since the weapon begins to swirl itself. So it does damage to the enemy and allows to apply vv to pyron easier or even do some unique double swirl setups
@krummesblech
@krummesblech 9 ай бұрын
It depends, if you use Lynette as Support Yes. But its really not that good for a DPS c6 Lynette build. For Kazuha he can Double swirl with Benny Anyway no matter with c6 or not
@domi8499
@domi8499 9 ай бұрын
​@@krummesblech you need to do some specific set up for Kazuha to double swirl though. And in some enemies where they have a permanent aura, you just can't double swirl at all
@krummesblech
@krummesblech 9 ай бұрын
@@domi8499 On Bennett's Burst, Kazuha always swirls Pyro, regardless of whether the enemies have the Pyro element or not. If you manage to get the opponent to have Hydro on them, for example, you get both Pyro and Hydro swirl. It's only difficult if you don't have Bennett on your team (HuTao, double hydro + Kazuha as example)
@domi8499
@domi8499 9 ай бұрын
@@krummesblech no, you can't swirl pyro if the enemies already has existing auro other than pyro. You confused pyro infusion with pyro swirl. Kazuha will infuse pyro on his plunge but it doesn't mean he will swirl pyro. For example if an enemy has hydro aura on them and you do Kazuha E in Bennett's circle. You'll swirl hydro and infuse pyro. And when you plunge, you will do pyro-infused dmg and triggering vaporize, not pyro swirl. You can easily test this by checking your character's stat to see if you get the pyro dmg% from his A4 or not.
@ajrich1726
@ajrich1726 9 ай бұрын
Why are we still doing this three years later
@MightyNumpty
@MightyNumpty 9 ай бұрын
Oh boy did I misread that title. Kinda disappointed I don't get to see some well thought-out arguments from a 3 year old lmao
@jonathanrobinson198
@jonathanrobinson198 9 ай бұрын
It helps if I’m trying to forward vape or melt something because it’s one more means of application
@nyxboi427
@nyxboi427 9 ай бұрын
Fuck the love of god I just want a way of removing the red reminder icon. I don't know why it bothers me so much it just does
@shinobu1886
@shinobu1886 Ай бұрын
I have been on team C5 Bennett for a long time, similar reasons as you, despite now days 95%+ players recommend C6 Bennett because 'there's basically no downsides". Firstly, I don't care how "niche" the potential problems are, I still do not like the fact that once it's done, it's locked forever (Or at least until they day Hoyo finally fixes this long, overdue issue). I started playing Genshin as an Ayaka main. And for a while, she was just my best DPS in any case, whether is was her typical Freeze team, or occasionally, against a boss with Bennett. So personally, at least at the time a year or so ago, I did have value of a non-C6 Bennett. The other big reason that I have been against C6 is like you said; Simply the possibly, even if low, of a future character relying or at least benefiting on a non C6 Bennett. That all being said, I think I'm just about ready to just finally pull the trigger and finally just C6 Bennett. I'm now a Nahida main, have many more variety in teams & DPS's to deal with a range of bosses and opponents. Considering I have Arlecchino in my top 3, as well as sometimes using Yoimiya, Gaming & of course the buff to Xaingling, between that, no longer using Ayaka outside of Freeze and still not having Eula, the positives clearly outweigh the negatives, for now at least. While I do still share some of the concerns of the past, particularly the "What if" of a future character that makes me regret, that same "what if" could also be applied to Hoyo finally allowing togglable cons before then. At least I would like to think that they would.
@dont_ask_none
@dont_ask_none 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I’m also just coping for a phys character that will use bennet rn, I’m not scared of what C6 bennet does to my account now, just want to make sure I can use this powerful support for any character that comes in the future.
@optimistic.pessimist
@optimistic.pessimist 6 ай бұрын
90% of the decisions on my account have been to better my favorite character, Yoimiya. I pulled Yelan for yoimiya, I pulled c6 yunjin for Yoimiya, I pretty much only use Zhongli for Yoimiya, and then decided after over 6 months of having it unchecked, C6'ed my Bennett. I never regretted it. Realistically, the only character it fucks up is Eula, and I benched her a month after getting her. Even Keqing's best team doesn't have Bennett anymore.
@patrickstyle24816
@patrickstyle24816 8 ай бұрын
I just got 6 constellations for Bennet, I haven't upgraded him to c6 yet, and I decided to watch this video. I came out still being confused. I started this game like 5 months ago lmao.
@ErrorGameManiac
@ErrorGameManiac 8 ай бұрын
some teams will not be able to exists with bennet c6. So like Ayaka melt team. Keqing electro or physical team are gone since bennet will make her do fire dmg instead of electro. Eula is physical dps and bennet increases her dmg nicely but now he would overwrite her physical dmg to fire making her do massively less dmg. Same for ayaka and Keqing their element being overwritten means they drop by a lot in dps unless you did those meme builds where you gave them fire increase weapons and artifacts. Basically if you c6 him he makes teams that benefit from fire stronger while many wont care and some teams can no longer have him in the team. So its flexibility if you stop at c5 all teams that benefit from him can have him and if you get him c6 some teams can no longer take him and at times that might require 2 character swaps to make up for the fact he healed and buffed.
@figloalds
@figloalds 9 ай бұрын
My Bennett will remain C5 until there's an option to toggle I don't like pyro, 15% pyro bonus does nothing to me
@studiesinflux1304
@studiesinflux1304 9 ай бұрын
I enabled C6 Bennett immediately just for more Pyro damage. That said it was version 3.4 or 3.5 when I got enough copies, so it wasn’t nearly as controversial as it was before. I hope Hoyo does more stuff with weapon infusions: it’d be fun if you could activate dedicated game mechanics (and not just “incidental” reactions) by smacking an enemy with a triple infused weapon, like the weapon equivalent of Burgeon.
@azlzlaz
@azlzlaz 8 ай бұрын
my bennett is c6, i did it for my diluc, and now he also buffs my lyney. xiao and scara, who i always used him with too, aren't affected by c6 bennett. i do not regret it. my ayaka plays permafreeze.
@chandlerburres4678
@chandlerburres4678 9 ай бұрын
To me, this is one the dumbest debates within the community, bar none. - if you activate it, cool, - if don't that's also cool. If you're aware of what pros and cons it brings, why does it matter in the first place?
@thaliathompson4379
@thaliathompson4379 9 ай бұрын
I enabled it and my only regret is that I can't play Melt Main DPS Bennett or Thundering Fury Main DPS Bennett as an option. Eula prefers Furina/Mika/Raiden to Bennett, Razor can use C6 Bennett in Thundering Furry (EM Razor) which I'm glad I can do since I enabled it, physical Zhongli with Crescent Pike can use YunJin/Cryo/Electro as his team. I'm sure if a polearm character with 5 normal attacks that hit 4 times each to really proc Crescent Pike's passive a broken amount comes out, they'll also have plenty of options besides Bennett. Be it Furina, Mika, Raiden, Fischl, Yun Jin, Zhongli, or some other character they release alongside that character that buffs attack speed.
@orderoffries7880
@orderoffries7880 8 ай бұрын
I can completely see c6 Bennet being great for certain teams, but I would personally rather not risk making him better for some teams, but unusable for others I may want in the future.
@pochaccito.1
@pochaccito.1 9 ай бұрын
y’all can thank one specific content creator for perpetuating the C6 Bennett misconception…
@Sirindilable
@Sirindilable 8 ай бұрын
Still can't activate his c6. Love my Keqing with Bennett.
@CalderaWolf
@CalderaWolf 9 ай бұрын
Since initially getting Bennett C1 all the way back in 1.2 (only wanted 1 but I ended up with 2 copies) multiple years later, I have a c4 Bennett, he doesn’t seem to like me, so C6 has luckily not been a concern
@simplysolus8916
@simplysolus8916 9 ай бұрын
Some details on how infusions work are now incorrect. This occurred after Alhaitham was added, and they seemed to have added what I'll call 'fusion removal' to the possibilities. If you are infused via Chongyun, C6 Bennett, Candace, and may have even just sprinted with Ayaka, its possible you'll deal physical damage. (I have a video called 'Mystery Damage' on my channel where I just use these infusions at the same time resulting in my hits rotating through different damage types.(My videos typical exist just for forum discussions on the wiki.)) -- I find C6 Bennett hit or miss. I enabled it since I disliked his character so I figured I'd enable it so I could create meme teams, thus having a Nilou and such who can deal 20k pyro damage per hit for the lulz. The silly builds made me rather enjoy him and the game, but it hurt a few teams I wanted to build later on, such as my Physical Keqing who hits for 23k+25k with her charged attack with out Bennett, and I would have loved to push this further, but now I can't. Then there is melt Ayaka who can enable have C6 Bennett create Pyro Shenhe allowing Ayaka's burst to melt... but then Bennett turns Ayaka's melee attacks into pyro... which hurts some potential meme builds. (Aloy with a 4* weapon can do 50k with her N1 via Shenhe+Yun Jin+Bennett, but Ayaka can't use this team if Bennett is C6. Luckily we know have Wriothesley who is more dependable than Aloy who needs 4 coils to preform these 50k normals.) So hit and miss. :)
@baratacom
@baratacom 9 ай бұрын
One argument in favor of C6 Bennett is, ironically, Razor who has a crazy "Self Dendron't Over-Hyper-Load BurgeonBloom Vapetional" team by going EM with C6 Bennett, Xingqiu and Dendro for some crazy simultaneous reactions that are only possible with Razor's weirdness of not infusing himself while at the same time adding Electro damage to himself and having fast application Edit because I found the ridiculous name
@OzzieStorm
@OzzieStorm 9 ай бұрын
i did C6 my Bennet immediately and my OCD thanks me for it. That red exclamation mark would ruin me more than any ruined team comb would xD
@liiich6175
@liiich6175 9 ай бұрын
I c6'ed and didn't even notice the 15% pyro bonus....but using NA for shield breaking is nice I guess
@Rugbbb
@Rugbbb Ай бұрын
I once main a Razor and i can't play him physical anymore 😢
@gunman8452
@gunman8452 9 ай бұрын
C6 Bennett makes Xiangling stronger, that's enough of a good reason to C6 him
@nebulawings
@nebulawings 9 ай бұрын
Basically what I thought of when I C6ed Bennett. Also, more Pyro Damage for my man Diluc 👀
@pyronado4320
@pyronado4320 9 ай бұрын
Based
@gunman8452
@gunman8452 9 ай бұрын
@@pyronado4320 omg pyronado, the best burst in the game
@fkun1156
@fkun1156 9 ай бұрын
The biggest downside of not enabling c6 it's dealing with that annoying notification 😵‍💫. I could not stand a single day... So I enabled it
@radicaljojo8795
@radicaljojo8795 9 ай бұрын
eula mains when c6 bennett
@danielcarrilho5217
@danielcarrilho5217 9 ай бұрын
You don't need him anymore when C6 mika and furina exist 🤭
@ynnaD2413
@ynnaD2413 9 ай бұрын
You didn’t mention it but with the release of chevreuse I think C6 bennett will get even more use. I can totally see like a C6 bennett driver with her causing overload as a nice comp and having off field elctro units like fishcl and beidou as a fun viable option. That pyro dmg bonus will be nice for other pyro dmg teammates as well if you want to put him in a support roll. But meta in this game doesn’t matter and ppl should just play the game they want to as long as they have fun in their own way.
@krummesblech
@krummesblech 9 ай бұрын
Yeah i see a Team with C6 DPS Crimson Benny, Chevreuse, Fischl & Xiangling. Beidou is sure a Option, but because of no crowd control + Overload its more of a team for single boss Fights wich is the weakness of Beidou
@ynnaD2413
@ynnaD2413 9 ай бұрын
@@krummesblech yea that works to beidou is also situational but at least it’s a consideration. That team would have been nice vs those concentrated beasts back in 3.7.
@PRKARMA
@PRKARMA 9 ай бұрын
only best way to fix this is if mihoyo change the c6 constellation effect or increase.
@mittydakitty
@mittydakitty 9 ай бұрын
What would be awesome would be to be able to toggle (in settings) elemental infusion overrides.
@TekkatV2
@TekkatV2 9 ай бұрын
I enabled it back in 1.1 and never regreted it lol.
@lowkeymello9835
@lowkeymello9835 9 ай бұрын
I like your thumbnails the way u transition and whatever random genshin related topics u pull out your ass lol keep it up man.
@azuarc
@azuarc 9 ай бұрын
That part of the video where Ayaka has a level 1 weapon, and has to reset the boss attempt. Of course, this is why I scoff at every mention of artifact load-outs. One character, one weapon. I don't move them around. But I don't enjoy micromanaging, like, at all.
@raisintran5178
@raisintran5178 9 ай бұрын
I used to frequently grind on my friend’s account (esp during shenhe’s banner) and it always annoyed me that the little notification wouldn’t go away for bennets c6. Like it’s not the fault of my friend I totally get it but I beg hoyo to make cons togglable so i can get rid of the stupid notif when I inevitably get bennet c6 😔
@akarial2713
@akarial2713 9 ай бұрын
I C6ed him a few month ago because I wanted the dmg buff for yanfei and I didn't want the red mark, and frankly I don't really regret it. I don't ever play physical and my Ayaka has been benched for a while now, so it doesn't bother me that much. And I'm also kinda happy not to have to put bennett in every team now, it makes me want to build more characters.
@Nerdslayer0
@Nerdslayer0 9 ай бұрын
I think mihoyo is dumb but even i dont think theyre dumb enough not to know how their most widely used healers constellation works. They obviously make new characters with him in mind by making their infusions not overridden. Theyve also moved towards non-atk scaling characters lately to give us variety outside of bennett teams and balance characters with his existence in mind. Some enemies even seem designed to counter him by hitting you much harder when youre pyro infused. Im a eula main myself but i HIGHLY doubt some new physical character will come out that NEEDS bennett but specifically not c6... if you really think about it, theres leaks on characters months away and no signs of any such character. If such a character comes out it could be years from now and whos to say we're even still playing by then? Its completely illogical but people are so afraid of the CHANCE that it happens, despite being able to get a huge damage boost and new team comps enabled in the CURRENT version. I find it wild.
@Dioskurai
@Dioskurai 5 ай бұрын
Stumbled upon this video. Dint watch the video, just read the comments below. A worth pyro DPS has come out and it's time to c6 my Bennett. Arlecchino let's go!!
@edelweiss9467
@edelweiss9467 9 ай бұрын
Funny, I C6'd Bennett by accident while I was doing a test with Eula. Immediately after realizing, I did a Pyro Eula test. And a Pyro Keqing test.
@nakoruruwantspepsi1556
@nakoruruwantspepsi1556 9 ай бұрын
I c6 my Bennet ages ago and have no issues. This back in Enkanomiya. I realized the team I run for Eula doent need Bennet, and other my other carries at the time didnt scale off atk. But my Diluc, Yoimiya liked the pyro boost. As time went on, its never been an issue.
@vsss4248
@vsss4248 9 ай бұрын
Future characters who will have their auto-attacks infused with their skill or burst will have the kit ''cannot be override by any other infusion'' in them, like Alhaitham. So will not be problem for this reason.
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