Caduceus talks to Trent "Empathise." | Critical Role | Campaign 2, Ep141

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[@johnlavery3433]

Beware the wrath of a patient man

[@Falconsfan90]

"Don't worry, we can try again tomorrow" is an absolutely terrifying statement in this context

[@richardshelley143]

Power Word: Empathize

[@bezerkoid]

Well deserved, but terrifying.

[@RedtheEdge]

I'm scared of Caduceus and I'm on his side.

[@Direwolf181]

@@RedtheEdge Cad is the prime example of 'beware the nice ones' because they ARE the most dangerous

[@cuccohaHA]

“Beware the anger of a gentle man”

[@sanjitsounderrajan]

The scene gave me chills. A pissed off Talisen is scary to behold, be it Percy, Molly or Caducaus.

[@deathbykonami5487]

There's an earlier bit where Caduceus, eyes pitch black, intimidates Eadwulf into putting out the fires that were destroying his family home/temple. "Before you go! The Matron has special places for people who burn temples! So, why don't you put your back into this!?"

[@tycol322]

Beware the wrath of a gentle man.

[@cryofpaine]

@@tycol322 like one of my favorite quotes from Kerrek (aka Patrick Rothfuss 😊).

[@Strix182]

Ashton Greymoor is therefore the most terrifying being on Exandria.

[@kobisen]

This is why why Caduceus is my favorite PC for this campaign. Even though he is obviously angry, he still opts to try and get Trent to understand what he's doing and help him see error in his ways. While most would just leave him to his fate or off him, Cad still wishes to bridge that gap, even by a bit.

[@tysondennis1016]

Campaign 1: Unmerciful Percival Campaign 2: Mad Cad

[@Rose_Nebula]

This is one of the most emotional and frustrating moments of the campaign, easily. I wish it’d worked though. Gave me fuckin chills.

[@dopiley]

It did worked in the end. But, Trent didn't hav the ability to empathize. So it didnt work anyways.

[@cryofpaine]

@@dopiley I actually love that it turned out like that. Not that we needed more evidence, but it shows just how irredeemably evil he truly was. A complete lack of not just empathy, but even the capacity for empathy on any level.

[@darakkuunobelu7584]

​@@cryofpaine I'd say, to lack ability for an empathy on such level... he probably had some sort of mental disorder, likely from birth or young age. Without proper recognition and treatment such condition would've only helped and speed up Trent's descent toward being the person he became.

[@cryofpaine]

@@darakkuunobelu7584 possibly. But as with any skill, it's possible to lose it if you don't work to cultivate it. I'm hesitant to call things like that a mental illness, since there is still so much stigma against actual mental illnesses.

[@enyacereceres3965]

Trent Ikithon can't legally ✨empathize✨

[@tycol322]

"Demons run when a good man goes to war"

[@ntscho_tschi1009]

'Night will fall and drown the sun When a good man goes to war Friendship dies and true love lies 'Night will fall and the dark will rise When a good man goes to war Demon's run but count the cost the Battel's won but the child is lost.

[@sagescribe_]

Ngl, I couldn't stop laughing hearing Taliesin repeatedly say empathize

[@xdragoonzero0]

Interestingly, this is exactly how the main antagonist of the Inheritance Cycle is killed, along with a bit of nuclear suicide mixed in.

[@_zurr]

It had it's ups and downs, but that was hands down one of my favourite ways of dealing with a villain ever.

[@khadijahdanielian3918]

I was thinking the EXACT same thing when I first saw this scene. Honestly there’s such a poetic justice to a punishment like that, even though i can understand why some think it’s a narratively flawed way to deal with a villain, I thought for the book it was a fitting ending. Kinda like the new option from the ending of AtlA that Aang found. And here it really hammers in just how rotten to the core Trent is, which makes his end all the more satisfying.

[@Mr.HotDogShirtGuy]

I loved this moment. Reminded me of how Eragon defeated Galbatorix in the Inheritance cycle by mentally breaking through his magic wards and forcing him to “empathize” by feeling the collective emotion of every person that Galbatorix had ever wronged.

[@Arcyguana]

Eragon hadn't broken through, he couldn't, even when Murtagh broke some of the more main wards that Galbatorix had around him. The beauty of the spell, or at least the spell Eragon intended to cast in the first place, is that it wasn't something to kill with. None of the wards that Galbatorix put about himself could do anything about it and then the power of the Eldunari that Eragon drew upon amplified it into a spell that it became.

[@stonecoldku4161]

So it's like asking Hannibal Lecter to empathize? Yeah this is going to take forever.

[@Zabazoe]

I always wonder if Matt’s rolls were straight or had advantages here since his boss fights usually have magic resistances. You only hear him roll the same die and probably forgot Cad baned Icky Thong.

[@tycol322]

That or he could be auto baning as I call it. Rolling the d20 and instead of rolling for bane just assuming max rolls for it and subtracting it. When I'm trying to be nice and let players have a bit of extra leeway I'll do that with their debuff on me. "Oh that's a d4 reduction to int? Okay" and just auto assume 4 to

[@TheRealWilliamWhite]

If they beat it by 4 or more it doesn't matter what they roll on bane

[@Quadraxis]

Cad, your Percy is showing

[@cherishberdahl2632]

its ironic that through this you learn that trent is actually incapable of empathizing and they have him locked in a hole somewhere as if he won't get free one day. Caleb should have let Astrid kill him lol

[@cherishberdahl2632]

but also if we see trent again one day that would be so dope 😂

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa86441]

to be fair, with the glue veth used it would take a wish spell to remove his collar and unstick his hands to do anything but think.

[@zozilin]

He could have a clone stashed somewhere so killing him might bring him back very soon.

[@Linkolnverse]

If he had died, I'm sure a clone would have come out.

[@greendemon905]

He can't empathize, but he can be pissed at his defeat, miss his old position and power, wonder how he might have won the fight, feel shame at his name being dragged through the mud, feel hatred towards the Mighty Nein for defeating him, feel lonely alone in his hole, feel terrified at the thought that he might never be able to use his hands again, feel betrayed by Astrid, Eadwulf and the Assembly for not freeing him, and eventually go mad with all these negative emotions swirling around in his head.

[@dhammer5842]

Sociopaths gonna sociopath

[@rockandroleplay5465]

Tbf I can't hear the sound of Matt rolling his Bane d4 here, just sounds like 2x d20 rolls (I'm guessing he has adv on the saving throw).

[@glenndallas7171]

Trent's stats might automatically negate whatever the bane d4 would add, so he's just rolling the d20 with advantage.

[@Blindluck92]

"Demons run when a good man go to war."

[@cernstormrunner7263]

Its like Ghost Riders Penance Stare