Caedrel Reacts To KCORP Drama For The Last Time

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[@alternateegoooooo]

I have nothing against kcorp or it's players but if you have a fanbase like that it's hard NOT to dislike you. Also they "excuse" (for the lack of a better term) the booing incident by saying that "faker is a grown man, he can handle that so why be upset?" But act way worse when their team gets remotely criticized lol. Not having respect is one thing but also being a hypocrite is wild

[@vlbluu124]

I am from France, and I guarantee you that kcorp is way more toxic than people think. They aren't really esports fan, they are Kameto's fans to begin with. Caedrel should have never talked about them even in a positive way, because once a single bad thing is said they will never forget.

[@nabilrealgoldenstate1074]

@@vlbluu124 fans de solary ?

[@raweltz]

at least we know that they never have been and never will be good

[@bahabahabahabahb1763]

Why did faker got booed in first place ? His interview was poorly translated into a taunt towards KC, that is the reason why he got booed. And dont act as Caedral's chat is not toxic as well lol lol

[@alternateegoooooo]

@@bahabahabahabahb1763 I'm not acting like a saint and saying any fanbase other than kcorp is toxic, every fanbase has a group of people but usually they are a minority, but with kcorp it feels like they are the loud majority. Kcorp also has good fans ofcourse but they get overshadowed by the stuff this "loud majority" group do. Oh btw if you watch the clip faker is actually getting boo'd before the translator even spoke lmao

[@ivanovaldi7831]

"im done" *check video length yea he is not done lmao

[@danielyeung3783]

Marc “I SWEAR I’M DONE” Lamont

[@OneShotBruh]

Same as him not liking drama when he comments on every bit of it, lmao.

[@nodestar6245]

Kcorp fans: caedrel has cultivated one of the most toxic chats in league against us Caedrel's chat: spams rat emotes 90% of the time

[@lunanacomet]

@@nodestar6245 can confirm xdd we rise xdd

[@aminefera5880]

No I remember the fly quest ADC poor guy was crying in an interview after a defeat his chat WAS SPAMMING THE SPONGEBOB'S EMOTE mocking him stop copping KC are toxic so is cadreal community and it fine JUST FIX THE PROBLEM WITH THE CEO DONT TALK ABOUT IT ONLINE it just cringe

[@Gthand]

The reddit is crazy tho

[@adithyakuricheti1725]

ddx

[@flo1794]

i mean just watch any KC games on Caedrel's stream it's an impressive mental gymnastic to not call that chat toxic as fuck towards kc and its fans, and barely moderated at that. while every insult towards caedrel is immediately banned on Kameto's stream

[@jordannzoldick8312]

For people who don't follows the French lol scene, KC has already had drama with : -Laure -Tweekz (French commentators) -Rekkles - Fnc ( Adam drama ) - Faker - Caedrel - IWD - VIT ( Lyncas ) - disrespectful towards players at LFL days - LEC - Ibai - Vedius

[@doomkingraye7692]

LMAO

[@nabilrealgoldenstate1074]

pourquoi tu parles de Laure et Tweekz alors qu'ils nous defendaient hier ? pourquoi vous etes toujours aussi à l'aise à etre malhonnete vis à vis de la KCORP ? pk tu parle de drama avc ibai alrs que c'etait juste la pixel war et une rivalité inter club ?

[@jordannzoldick8312]

@@nabilrealgoldenstate1074 C'est quand même incroyable que vous ayez lancé la plus grosse vague de haine que j'ai jamais vus sur un joueur lol en France ( lyncas ) et que vous osez dire que les autres sont malhonnête mais bon comme je suis malhonnête je vais rajouter : Chap, Hanterra, 113, AST, Upset

[@nabilrealgoldenstate1074]

@@jordannzoldick8312 chap le mec qui fait des faux compte pr faire passer les KC pour les mechant ? t'aurais mieux fait de te taire je pense

[@nabilrealgoldenstate1074]

@@jordannzoldick8312 jviens de voir que tu parles de 113 alors que le mec a payer son buyout pour revenir chez nous LOOOOOOL et apres ça tu vas encore pretendre ne pas etre malhonnete

[@acatwithwiskers9273]

Imagine eating Pizza in Vancouver and a random British dude talking about a game you have never heard of before pops up on screen 😂.

[@dexterperkson5514]

Wrong side of KZbin😭

[@santibone]

I’m from Vancouver and I’m pretty sure we don’t have pizza here

[@shawnatic]

Caedrel: bans the term Kay Cee Chat immediately: KFC

[@guardian-b3124]

Remove their fans from the LEC Studio

[@MrDespisedIcon]

Soon inshalla

[@christophhartner7139]

Im sure there are normal fans, they cant all be like that..

[@abouttime2569]

@@christophhartner7139 Of course not everybody is like that. But if there are too many toxic fans compared to other teams' fans, that will become their identifier.

[@aslemartinsen5284]

They should ban the fans, and they should force the owner to publicly disown the fans unless they stop their toxic behavior. It's spreading in the game as well, tons of raging French kids who troll, int and flame. These days you're lucky if there's only 1 game without trolls per 10 games played. Remember what Riot did to G2? They forced Ocelote out cus he partied with Andrew Tate, who Riot deemed toxic for telling boys to be responsible. So why the fuck shouldn't they interfere with KC, who negatively influence the entire LoL community? They're destroying the game.

[@virtuoso742]

They are already boycotting the league

[@aitorugartevega3681]

I remenber back when Messi was at barça in 2019, he played agains Betis in Betis stadium, made a hat trick and every Betis fan just cheered for him because of how good he was. Meanwhile kc fans booing the best team and player in the world in a friendly match where t1 had to fly across the world to play it for no reason.

[@Foyahxd]

As much as I'm a T1 hater, planning to collectively boo the team that YOU invited to play in your show match is absolutely insane. I used to watch a lot of CS and just see so many resemblances to KC fans in LoL as G2 and vitality fans in CS.

[@tsuna4058]

"planning to collectively boo the team that YOU invited to play" 3 lies with so few words you are strong my boi

[@fitz6908]

​@@tsuna4058 elaborate the "lies" you found in that sentence my "boi"

[@Foyahxd]

@@fitz6908 open this guys recent messages on this channel, actually embarrassing. He's straight from the KC Reddit.

[@adamszabo2874]

​@@tsuna4058 uneducated moment

[@yurilopes420]

ludwig caedrel league collab is kinda sick ngl

[@AscensiaYT]

Hatewatching is cringe but KC Ultra fans is even worse

[@nabilrealgoldenstate1074]

you never ever been around us lol you all r just completetly clueless or biaised

[@alternateegoooooo]

@@nabilrealgoldenstate1074 aren't you the guy that replied to me that hans also got death threats for not buying ldr thinking it'd be a good counterpoint lol? Doesn't your fanbase send death threats to random people on twitter for criticizing your team just a little?

[@nabilrealgoldenstate1074]

@@alternateegoooooo yeah that was not the point , you talked about hypochrisy I pointed out that nobody talked about what Hans Sama dealed with But yeah in french when someone is manipulating the words of other to use it as a fake argument we call it "sophisme" that's exactly what's happening here , typical caedrel fans I'm not falling into that trap

[@alternateegoooooo]

@@nabilrealgoldenstate1074 nobody???????? Bro that was the biggest drama on twitter, reddit, there were even articles bro 😭 got to the point where hans made a reference to it in his twitter when they won against tes which he barely uses btw

[@ryanoliver4823]

​@@nabilrealgoldenstate1074Dude wdym your fan bases is ruining league please just leave as most French people are like this

[@ArthurAtlas]

IF it's a joke, who's supposed to be laughing at this?

[@Behekimora]

Only them ! Because they're the joke

[@SilverCraft15987]

Him moderating KFC is the most hilarious thing to me xD

[@cottoncandy4896]

Caedrel chat is annoying not toxic imo

[@bahabahabahabahb1763]

Chat is toxic af

[@lunanacomet]

@@bahabahabahabahb1763 we're rats xdd now we're bats ppx

[@acatwithwiskers9273]

Exactly

[@slyrp3683]

caedrel chat is making fun of everything and everyone even themself, u cant compare them to these toxic kc babys

[@focke-wulfta-1528]

​@@bahabahabahabahb1763 KC simp

[@AMightyStorm]

Kcorp fans are SO HYPOCRITICAL. They flame, boo and send death threats to everyone under the sun, but they wanna act like they're under attack by Caedrel just because he called them out for that hateful behavior. Unbelievable. I don't blame Caedrel for just deciding to never talk about them or their team ever again.

[@BrovarSpirytus]

i didn't knew that kc fans are a single entity

[@greenhat7618]

Marc “I’m done” Lamont addresses the drama with The Team Who Shall Not Be Named one last time Here Mr Editor, fixed the title for you xdd

[@lepangolin4080]

The whole KC drama is always the same. It's just on bigger and bigger lvl each time. The thing that bother me the most as a french is that it give more space for all the racist to shit upon french and France. And since racism against french is perfectly acceptable in the whole internet for....reason?! (anglo saxon propaganda since iraqi war that never was dealt with imo) It's sad. Really sad. And I blame the org at that point for not acting really strong against all of it. They deal with it with too many caution cause those fans are dedicated and they fear them to turn against them I guess

[@sidradeave]

I think people allow "racism" against french people (racism against a first world country? lol, debatable) because most loud idiots on french fanbases are insufferable af. Politics channels, esports, news... it doesn't matter. If it is something remotely related to france, there will be at least one nationalist french asshole trying to be the center of attention. Internet works that way. If your country is specially toxic, obviously people will end up making fun of them. Look at USA. People laugh about them a whole lot more and with worse material (like certain plane accident) because they're also insufferable. Still, they're a lot more chill in esports than KC fans -> KC is a french org with mostly french fans -> people will laugh at them for being idiots and will associate french culture with them because it's the common denominator + most KC ultras can't make a comment without mentioning something that makes them proud of being french and not (insert other nationality).

[@Gthand]

As Caedrel said, he feels like he's getting constantly poked for no reason and that's true. But I think this comes from KC fans failing to realize that Caedrel is not his community, cause KC fans genuinely believe they're the one who are getting constantly poked. KC fans don't watch every Caedrel's stream, they rely on clips and his reddit to deduce Caedrel's opinion on them, and with how virulent the reddit is towards KC, they believe Caedrel genuinely hate them aswell. I think they should talk it out, like Caedrel and Kameto should talk or some shit, but things won't get better as long as it's this word-of-mouth thing KC fans deforming what Caedrel say through clips which is responded by Caedrel's reddit doing the same thing with Kameto or KC fans, with the language barrier not helping

[@Clamma]

I agree bro. We should just talk and make peace bc who cares about all this internet drama, we're grownups. I'm a KC fan myself and this is just so tiring

[@wrongchampotp7538]

One of the smartest opinion I've seen so far ! Agrees 100 %

[@desmeonrl7676]

K-Corps fan base is such a cancer. I watched them spread toxicity through the RLCS scene and now they’re doing the same to League. I was so damn disappointed when they got the LEC spot but hoped it would be different. Of course, it wasn’t, and now it’s a legitimate issue that needs to be addressed by the org.

[@DelgaDude]

Should have posted this on the main channel ngl.

[@AMightyStorm]

I agree. But it'll get spread anyway

[@amandine11797]

"it's a joke" is always the defence after someone says something disrespectful and they wanna get away with it. being a joke doesnt instantly remove responsibility, unlike so many people seem to think

[@abouttime2569]

These KC ultra fans have no logical thought process whatsoever. It is like talking to a middle school kid. Not your smart middle school kid. The below average middle school kids.

[@AMightyStorm]

So gen alpha then xdd

[@martindang7333]

@@AMightyStorm Look in the mirror, you have become the annoying boomer.

[@shumiya_]

Just get them out, too much drama and toxicity for the supposed boost that the LEC viewership got, after almost a year i see this as an absolute lose. I will never understand how someone can consider shitting and leaving death threats to people for simply criticizing "your" team, like what? You are losing money? Can't sleep knowing someone thinks "your" team isn't the best? KC should be held at least somewhat accountable for this, like i understand every team has them but they are on a completely different level compared to other LEC teams and are not even saying anything about it.

[@souadtopix]

kameto paid 20mil for the spot u think they gonna get kicked u must be naive

[@bahabahabahabahb1763]

I will apply your logic. Get T1 out

[@xandero8444]

@@bahabahabahabahb1763The difference is that the psychotic T1 fans generally spend their time attacking T1 itself for its ‘imperfections’, while the psychotic Kcorp fans seem to spend a lot of time attacking everyone but Kcorp. More importantly though, T1 are actually good. For better or worse, fans are far more willing to let the toxicity surrounding an org slide if that org is a multi-time world champion as opposed to being the LEC’s newest bottom feeder.

[@bahabahabahabahb1763]

@@xandero8444 And ? It doesnt change the fact that T1 fans are much more toxic Toxicity should not be justified Which make you hypocrites (not talking about Caedrel that called them out)

[@crudojoshuaricofort8795]

​@@bahabahabahabahb1763t1 fans are toxic because t1 haters are toxic... Its always the haters that starts shit, like bruh calling faker shaker every game, booing faker on events, it's always haters that start shit...

[@jdmd3247]

Before KC fans were a thing, the most disgusting fanbase imo was G2’s and even tho, was a matter of how their personalities were projected with Ocelote cringe personality and all of that. Even tho, it was pretty normal and not really toxic. But KC ultras are something else, no one has ever matched the amount of toxicity rn

[@leeyonghong4910]

They start to bring the traditional eu sport fan mindset into the esport scene, where ofc there will be no-brainer fans just barking and attacking someone outside of their home team. The comparison is that traditional sport like football has such big fan base, while esport has a rather smaller community, so team like KC that has huge fan base, with so much toxicity within them, it’s too hard to not see what they’re posting on the league pro scene

[@aminefera5880]

IT ALREADY IS T1 IS THE MODERN SPORT FAN BASE BUT WORSE

[@MrDespisedIcon]

There's a reason football fans are considered hooligans

[@sophagames]

Theres a reason why everyone sees football fans as underdeveloped monkeys

[@heimdall0370]

@@MrDespisedIcon thats just wrong my guy. There are some Football Fans that are considered Hools. SOME. Saying every football fan is considered a hooligan is weird. There are millions of fans just chilling and enjoying the thing. There are so many people doing great stuff within the football scene. Even in most Ultra groups there are many great people. Sadly many fans take it way to far and become hools. Those people destroy the Reputation of many fanbases. And you will see similar results, if you scale e-sports up to that lvl and add 100 years of development in the scene.

[@emperesque1218]

Last time Clueless Surely his reddit won't farm him for KC drama content again.

[@aslemartinsen5284]

They should ban the fans, and they should force the owner to publicly disown the fans unless they stop their toxic behavior. It's spreading in the game as well, tons of raging French kids who troll, int and flame. These days you're lucky if there's only 1 game without trolls per 10 games played. Remember what Riot did to G2? They forced Ocelote out cus he partied with Andrew Tate, who Riot deemed toxic for telling boys to be responsible. So why the fuck shouldn't they interfere with KC, who negatively influence the entire LoL community? They're destroying the game.

[@PetitGarry]

As a French : WE ALL HATE KC FANS. Kameto is a good guy, I think, don't know him personaly, he just have the worst people following him.

[@bahabahabahabahb1763]

T'es au courant que 99,9% des fans KC sont corrects ? Seulement comme ils ont 100 000 fans, les grosses merdes seront tout de même nombreuses

[@ju5tm398]

if kameto is a "good guy", why are people that represent HIS org online getting away with being as toxic and shitty as they are? there are many recurring accounts shitting on and saying the most vile stuff online about and directly to players and identities linked to the LEC. let me repeat, RECURRING accounts with many likes and probably followers too, that spout alot of this shit and they arent the only people sending death threats to Caedrels DMs. Kameto let it get to this point without ever controlling the fanbase with the voice he had. Especially with how the team has looked this year, it only shows sheer incompetence

[@abouttime2569]

Kameto isn't a good guy. He just works to be appeared as a good guy. Real good guys won't defend KC fans like he has.

[@nabilrealgoldenstate1074]

nan vous vous etes juste jaloux (ou raciste)

[@lilah.greene]

most french people i know, no matter if they are fans of kc or not, have not cared a bit about their behavior. and the only reason they can continue to behave like this is because everyone, including kameto, just looks past it. in my opinion, kameto is partly responsible of his fanbase and i genuinely don't understand how everyone can say he's such a good guy with an unfortunately bad fanbase when he has the power to stop it.

[@hiimmanu9352]

Thank you for speaking out about KC, this is so important caedral. Im sorry you get so many death threats and flame for it but its needed to have people call out toxic communities. I know a lot of KC fans are super nice and great people, but they need to accept that they have the most toxic fanbase in the west. I understand why kameto tried to defend his community and a creator should always protect their community, but it is saddening to see that he does not recognize the toxic part of his community

[@bahabahabahabahb1763]

He does recognize it, they even did a statement about it, what are you yapping about

[@ju5tm398]

kameto recognises every single part of it. He is incompetent and plays the clueless act to profit as much as he can from them. these fans have always been like this, way before they even had talks to join LEC; in interactions these fans had with fanbases of LEC teams long ago. its the reason why the disdain of them spiralled so far from people that werent already a fan of theres, these people are saying the most mentally ill things online and the org owners have released ONE single statement about it in all their time

[@Quetzelcoatlus]

What's common denominator between recent dramas: toxic KC fanbase and toxic bard main? Yes it's 'French'. 😂😂😂😂

[@wowJhil]

The problem with KC is that it's a national team, that is why it attracts the worst kind. Also, the org itself doesn't condemn these thing enough, either silent or not taking a stand!

[@alextzatzanis1]

if anyone who likes to troll in twitch chat reads this, please stop spamming degenerate shit when caedrel is being serious, we all watch his stream because he is entertaining and fun please stop making his life more difficult than it already is with all these people on kc flaming him and everything

[@BrovarSpirytus]

"twitch chat is a serious business" lmao

[@alextzatzanis1]

@@BrovarSpirytus bro i just meant that hes clearly upset, and i feel like every one of us somewhat cares about his well-being being cringe in chat is definitely not helping anything

[@karthaz3637]

KC ultras comments on you are not "jokes", they are just mean stuff said on a playful tone as to have the possibility to brush it off as a joke. They mean what they say and they hte your guts because they are convinced you hate them. What I truly don't understand about KC is that they don't seem to want to reflect on themselves. No other fanbase is as hated as they are, why is that ? And another thing, Kameto is not a good person. His chat looks about the same as Caedrel's chat when he's co-streaming and he has the power to tell everyone to shut it but he doesn't, quite the opposite, he riles them up, most notably during the Lyncas thing.

[@ono1113]

In the part where French fans argue "its just a joke" Caedrel just made a realization where its not "just a joke" anymore, its reason why in professional world any questionable shit like joking about ww2 Germany leader will get you fired/banned instantly, same with random whistleblow racist/sexist phrases, it hits differently when you are the "joke" hits someone who you watch all the time isnt it?

[@NyppaahClips]

Ludwig getting the coaching so he can play alongside T1, how cute

[@skelerex5463]

Ludwig is too good to play for T1 😂

[@andreabosio6452]

In Italy we have a similar problem but with all the football teams fanbase... especially the ones called Ultras. I always dread the moment where the fanbase of a sport I follow starts becoming like that...and that team fanbase is starting to be absolutely unhinged like them

[@jacksonhester6747]

KC fans are the only fans of anything that legit find any negative comment and swarm you. Here they come….

[@sidradeave]

Why tf the only argument of KC fans is "you're lying"? Like, i have seen ten different accounts replying almost the same thing: "that's not true, you're lying", then they refuses to elaborate and leave. Is this some cultural thing that i'm missing or is just one guy with multiple accounts trying to dodge the L?

[@AMightyStorm]

They remind me of political chats in the USA, someone will say "fake news" or "that's not true" and then never produce a single source to back up their claim. They just don't take the time to get the story straight, and just want to cling to what they heard from someone else as fact, just like the boomers when they see some misinformation on Facebook lol. It's an epidemic of willful ignorance and only wanting to believe what you want to believe, every fact be damned.

[@lilah.greene]

kameto responded to this tweet on a stream saying something along the lines of "the tweet is so long, there's no way i'm gonna read it. and everything said in it is bs anyway.", so ig those are just his minions saying what kameto said

[@sidradeave]

@@lilah.greene ty, i had 0 context aside from what Caedrel said + the tweets of KC ultras.

[@Emay3819]

Hey kc enjoyer here, first of all most french are shit in english that's why they can't talk with you. also kameto said in his clip that caedrel is lying because only 5 maximum 10 people boo'ed faker and those people were stopped by other kc fans. Also the whole "on va tout casser" (we're gonna destroy everything) is not to take in the litteral term in france we like to emphasize, we're not really gonna destroy everything for real it's just a way to say that we're going to stomp every game (wich didn't happen ig) Kc has some toxic fans yes but most of the time drama happen bcs of misunderstanding/barrier language

[@antosqa7343]

Okay but to spread info that Caedrel wasn't anything but nice to KC from the beginning is the next level of fact warping. Even MAD KOI fans are less involved in so many dramas. And I would understand if you have beef with Dom, Thorin who sre pretty sharp on their tongue but cmon choose Caedrel of all people to talk shit as if he is not one of the most non-conflictable person in the industry? At this point with whom KC fans don't have beef with? It can happen once, twice, but if it is constantly happening maybe it is time to think who is the cause of conflicts after all

[@vencelfoldi8236]

Ever since the incident when Astralis players, staff and fans were harassed for months by KC ultras when their first attempt at joining the LEC didn't go through, I pretty much just written that fanbase off as a lost cause.

[@AMightyStorm]

KC fanbase = cesspool

[@schmorman773]

We should all just try to ignore the kc idiots and let them do their own thing. They have always been like that in every esports, not only in lec and they wont change anyways because the higher ups of the org know that these ppl are the ones that bring in money. Legit the most toxic and disgusting ppl are moderators on their twitter Community and then they will say its only a small margin of us that is toxic. Lyncas is still to this day getting 1000 hate masseges for every time he tweets anything. The Community is disgusting and its not just a small part of the fans, the best way is prob to just ignore them and let them talk to their own ppl, these idiots will never change.

[@legitlama288]

What made the booing incident for people overseas bad is that T1 cut their vacation to join the showmatch. That also includes *Bangs Wedding*. Bang is a brother to Faker, the whole 2014 - 2016 team is very close to each other. Imagine flying for a showmatch to Europe to get booed by people who are apparenty not "real KC fans" but then you see this shit. There are a lot of toxic fanbases in esports, even T1's Fanbase is disgusting to the max to their own players BUT KC Ultras takes the crown because they had no base to boo T1 for no fucking reason than "just because it's Faker".

[@gaborolaszi5062]

The original tweet is obviously some shroedinger's asshole type of thing when you say something clearly offensive and decide whether it's a joke or not by the reaction it gets.

[@BrovarSpirytus]

it's an obvious joke, only acoustic people would not get it

[@HeGotNoArms]

Went through the comments a bit and it's wild people compare T1 and KC. Difference being in that T1 has taken an active stand against fan toxicity while I have not heard about anything being done about the KC ultra fans. There is literally no reason ever to send death threats and saying unhinged terrible things to or about others. I don't believe there's any fanbase without people who lack common sense but it's the sheer lack of restraint in an otherwise pretty positive community (the lol esports one) that is upsetting everyone. I do not believe it has gotten to a point where KC should be removed from the LEC but I am of the opinion that the org needs to do something about it or else riot will have to get involved if outrage keeps escalating.

[@sourishbose1428]

Even Upset is becoming a KC Fan typa guy lmaooo

[@shawnatic]

I'm pretty sure it's mainly just KC fans on Twitter. The toxicity is multiplied hundred fold thanks to that godforsaken combination.

[@Agong22067]

Riot seriously needs to address this

[@peurpaelen3261]

I can't understand how, of all things, this got to Caedrel's head.

[@RakusaSi]

KC fan base is criticized in every scene they are it's absolutely insane that they think they are the victim... When everyone is pointing out the toxicity of the fanbase, I think they should question themselves sometimes

[@ktelite]

KFC and their 11 herb and spices.

[@papoy1962]

"IM DONE"

[@tubemarionelh.4079]

MARC "I'M DONE" LAMONT AINTNOWAY

[@Arahan96]

I used to hatewatch KC but after this, im hatewatching more intensely

[@ryanoliver4823]

I think we should kick kcrop tbh the bad for league

[@pda32301]

Kcorp fans think they can be as toxic as T1 fans, when their team are a bunch of nobodies. While t1 been carrying league's viewership for a decade now

[@RenewedAurora]

I agree the KC stuff has reached a tipping point. Every month there's been something new and its typically overtaken my NA news feed. I've never seen a fanbase be this problematic, even in the NFL (IYKYK). I've rooted against my own team when a team/player was on the verge of breaking a record, rooting for them to do the cool shit. I rooted for an opposing QB when he came back after a scary injury and threw his first pass back against my team. I know it's not the entire fanbase, but this has gone too long imo. Cheer for your team but respect the game and pros (that are better than us hence why they're pros). It's not difficult and feels rewarding.

[@pretentiousfly]

Is anyone on EARTH suprised when the French start issues then run away and say its just a joke? Theyve been doing that for 150 years

[@AbedIsBatman]

I wonder how KCorps fanbase got this unhinged. Have they always been like that?

[@nabilrealgoldenstate1074]

maybe the constant bashing is not helping ? IDK

[@prize9550]

@@nabilrealgoldenstate1074 dont talk as if KC didnt start it

[@nabilrealgoldenstate1074]

@@prize9550 lol , we've been bashed before we even had an LEC team , you all decided day one that we will be the vilains it's fine we'll live with it. We will continue to ignore you as long as you don't lie about us or bash our players

[@vojtav6636]

Correction, you guys decided that you are the villians

[@goatjedi4759]

@@nabilrealgoldenstate1074 🤡KFC fan spotted

[@JB-hr6yp]

KC situation hurts, I have been supporting the Rlcs Team for some time and the lack of respect for other Teams and players in Events and in the stands is painful, it ruines the General image and with it the great atmosphere such fan clubs bring to events

[@mrgoose3453]

I've watched Rlcs for years and it seems they're nowhere near as bad and I had nothing against them. But they just seem so much more feral in league it's unreal

[@theself7139]

Im dota fan only watching LOL cause of faker first then this guy. This rat has been the most entertaining guy to watch. Always has smth funny to say, his reactions are funny and never get toxic and always stay level headed in most of the times. I dont understand how hes getting so much hate for nth. I thought my dota community was toxic. Hell we even had many pro players making racists remarks in all chat in pubs. One pro player even said why didnt hitla k1lls russians But none of those get blown out of proportion. They apologise and we move on. What im tryna say is this is nowhere close to wht i just said in toxic/cancel department. Damn now i hv to admit LOL fans worse than dota fans.

[@jayyoung8784]

18:20 i cannot imagine this being said last year. The Yapa glow up has been insane

[@4Deuroz]

I'm not really into LEC or anything but it's true that for a native french reading the original tweet would make you 70% sure it was a joke, english fans couldn't obviously can't understand the sarcasm and it went downhill from there i also think a part of caedrel's reddit/chat has an agenda of obviously baiting Caedrel into drama

[@Raymuk]

If a joke is not funny it's not a joke

[@Ousjames]

@@Raymuk Well, it was a joke in Karmine Corp community Twitter so it was for Karmine Corp fans and it looks like a lot found it funny

[@sidradeave]

@@Ousjames well, there is a reason on why french communities are a bit infamous on the internet: your jokes suck. It's not a joke telling someone to unalive themselves, that you're going to abuse their families, that you're going to find them. If that's french "humor", then you guys got stucked on the edgy adolescent phase. Grow up.

[@donotou]

I am French and I can't identify myself as being a fan of Kcorp, only because of the fanbase. The community of Kameto is really toxic, not all of them are like that, but there are still a big part of them (online, I really don't think they will act the same way in real life). I don't hate the organisation, I don't hate Kameto and I don't hate the players, so I feel happy when they win, but I don't think I will ever celebrate any wins with the fans... They keep creating dramas from nothing, like they were 15 years old, but the vast majority of fans have come of age ! And now, in the context of an e-sport conversation, if I say that I am French, I am taken for a Kcorp fan, who has a toxic reputation, whereas that is not my case. It's really frustrating.

[@shreyassinha1207]

Kc needs to removed from lec

[@R0D3Z]

KC fans try not to be mentall ill challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

[@sownyp9980]

This kind of KC fans are a bit pathetic lol

[@mustard9933]

The KC fans needs to check eachother when someone who hasnt touched grass in 6 months is giving the rest a bad name.

[@SwainixFPV]

Caedrel treated the KC fan base like rationnal fans when they first got in the LEC, so he critised the team or them sometimes. NAAAAh you don't do this with ultras, whatever fans they are, especially when they can stay anonymous lol

[@mithilcherkadi9990]

Last time kappa

[@ScrivoQualcosa]

KC fans think the world is their rival but they are like tiny dogs, all bark and nothing else

[@JuliusCesar66]

I say the Rat King does a coaching STREAM, so we can see Ludwig progress, cuz let’s be real an hour is way too short. Plus the content would be crazy!! And Ludwig plays jungle. Or played. Perfect for a full stream.

[@Emay3819]

Caedrel and Kameto should talk. As a kc fan this drama is nonsense to me. French KC fan view caedrel as bad bcs they only watch clips that are always portrayed like caedrel hates KC, that's why they think caedrel hate KC. Faker drama is nonsense aswell bcs only 5 to max 10 people boo'ed faker for few seconds 1 year ago (btw they were stopped by other kc fans in the stadium). A lot of misunderstanding happened bcs of language barrier (the tweet about booing faker is what we call 2nd degré in french it's an obvious joke for french people) Yes they are toxic fans a lot (bigger fanbase more toxic fans) and they are always the loudest especially on twitter. But in IRL people know we are nice T1 actually appreciated the redbull event. They even asked kameto how he did to have big fan base. If you have names of people sending death threats pls show them to either kotei, kameto or arthur perticoz on twitter. They can ban them from all kc events and twich. Also you guys maybe don't know about it but they are also french racist on twitter that hates KC (because Kameto parents are algerian and they say arabic kc fans are the toxic one) so they try to team up with you to hate on us but for different reasons. (sorry for bad english i tried my best ❤)

[@Propulse82]

Yeah me too, I'm just tired of all these toxic fans. They are completely ruining the image of KC in the world even tho they are a minority. We need the club to be more engaged about this cuz it needs to be fixed.

[@Emay3819]

@@Propulse82 Yeah exactly the club need to adress this issue.

[@despicableglowee5207]

i respect caedrel a lot more now

[@AMightyStorm]

brooooo Caedrel + Ludwig content.... I'm excited

[@yyoksetioxd]

as I said in the subreddit, internet should filter out the french

[@ColeSATurner]

Common Caedrel W

[@SZRMOJE]

its crazy to see a lot of people are making good sense in the comments but somehow forget to apply the same logic they use for the kc fans to themselves to think that all of this started because of a difference in culture is kinda crazy,it could have been fun but everyone involved chose that it would not be

[@aeowinh]

Having KC fans sending death treats and insults everywhere is not right, and the deafening silence and lack of actions from KC as an org and their owners is insane, and even Riot and specifically the people in charge of LEC need to act, a player was getting harassed none stop for leaving the team bro, your casters in LEC are getting the same treatment and fans of other teams as well. You have to step in and do something about this.

[@Jack_Gibby]

I don’t think streamers should be allowed to place bets on the charity event. Ludwig spending $3000 on it is like a business expense to him because he stands to earn that back from his stream with caedrel.

[@pda32301]

EU's culture and traditions consists of aggressively barking cause of a ball

[@Ps-we3pp]

NA culture is drug cartels and shooting each other

[@podjono]

they are not french, everybody knows who they are

[@yawalli]

you think they're what?

[@eternalgamers10]

KC fans LOL.

[@borntoace7819]

There is a reason you dont argue with children 🤷‍♂️

[@BountyGeant]

"some KC ultra's are way to outta line" ye so then just shit on the whole org saying their CEO isn't doing nothing (wich is just blatant lie), seems logical, mmh. And then be shocked that a tiny pourcentage of the fanbase will do more outta line shit, wow what a suprise :ooo Expecting a whole mega group of people that don't even know each other to be perfectly wise and respectful is just some streamer take. Go outside ffs.

[@Stylerflo99]

damn this KC drama sounds exactly like the german politicians LMAO

[@virtuoso742]

They should force the owner to sell the team if the fans do not know how to behave properly

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

Based Dom was right, again 🙄

[@rachelcheung2247]

He was legit mad watching this live

[@lilah.greene]

honestly, these people keep excluding themselves from the rest of the lec, but are mad when others exclude them idk

[@matthieupaty5032]

Lil bro needs a French mod to accurately translate this shit (hello there)

[@KungFuTze]

step 1. how to cancel Malzahara ultimate step 2. profit

[@alexandrubodnar5914]

The lidership is toxic the fanbase can't be otherwise. When Kameto was flaming the drafts live on stream in winter I knew this can't be good. "I am not a toxic fanbase" . Kameto has to literally ask the fanbase to stop attacking Lyncas. Is it x or y ? Are you a toxic fan base or are you not ?

[@astral_08]

All KC fans got zoomer mentallity or what? Flaming & baseless toxic to other (booing Faker for no reason, did he BM/ trash talk/ being disrespect? Nope! N they tweet it gonna do it AGAIN? That was wild), but when getting pointed out, they play victim & called it "JUST A JOKE"... That is not a fanatic fans, just a bunch of griefer... I watch that event, & the 1 thing that I noticed is that the translator doing amazingly bad job of translating what Faker said (seems like paid to make the event a spicy one FR)... In my country, when fans being such a dumbass (esport or sport club), the officials will punish the Org/Club with playing match w/o supporter in the stadium for couple of games, for a learning lesson... Imagine if RIOT punish KC with playing LAN match w/o supporter? Whos gonna suffer? The Org! So yeah stupid behaviour fans is just a griefer... If they booing someone cz they are being disrespectfull, sure! That is reasonable...

[@dzproduction1951]

Hater detected !!!!!!!!!!

[@NinjaScorpio]

how do you rate this France "cultural enrichment" movement? Keep importing more KCorp fans into LEC and then see what happens

[@Banteng-Pargoy]

Caedrel please, just remind you my man, u cant argue with stone, let rocky's doing their things. u just waste of energy. its not about who is had the right mindset or not, its about doing the right thing for stupid thing. were not even in the same level of them. let them dream peacefully. reality to cruel for them. ya know what i mean.

[@woodwest11]

As someone who loves Dhokla licorice GAPS him

[@PlumpsHubris]

dAMN STILL less then Neace Premium coaching

[@EngelRaziel100]

All praised KC as a good addition for the LEC and after 1 year I hope this trash org is out next year.

[@cedhach477]

never liked kcorp but now they reached a new level of disgust i cannot fathom.

[@robertmusil1107]

T1 fanboy crying when someone boo's them LUL

[@BlackRoseTC]

Who would have thought, the French team had french fans - egotisitcal arragont lot