CAEDREL VS LS - THE ULTIMATE 5 GAME DRAFT - CAEDREL

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[@SimonOerslund]

This DEFINITELY has to be carried out by amateur-professionals with Caedrel and LS doing some pre-game coaching on execution of each of their team comps. 💥

[@mustaqimhadi6381]

I think each draft should be played out a few times to truly highlight the nuances

[@AlejandroLamKhoa]

@itsmecat tbh i'd watch these games over LCS any day

[@SimonOerslund]

@itsmecat - Even better! Thanks! 🙏🏼

[@topasposilol8263]

@@SimonOerslund KCX next!

[@jesusonascooter3397]

only if rito wants to. there's some strict rules about hosting tournaments especially if professional players participate as well

[@fiorane]

PLEASE DO MORE OF THIS!!!! You both are psychics when it comes to predicting drafts, and it’s probably the closest thing we’ll ever get to a coach LS vs coach Caedrel

[@shiny4534]

@fck peace someone didnt watch the vid lol

[@theo3854]

​@@shiny4534 did you see the stream? they literally took 20 minutes per draft

[@JesseIot]

@@shiny4534 its cut

[@hatakenewt348]

@@shiny4534 someone didn't watch the stream lol

[@sebastianmatarelli5602]

I think it's still very interesting to see what these two content creators think about top 100 champs. LS really loves his point and click comps. Bonus movement speed stacks additively so it's very abusive. That Udyr Strat falls off but he also drafted scaling with senna and Kayle. That instalock swain. Read cad like a book.

[@seanbat7387]

I want this to be real so badly. This would actually be interesting watch in pro play, instead of meta rock paper scissors.

[@tomwanders6022]

Proplay is sadly everyone just using Rock and rarely if ever trying paper.

[@jorgelenny47]

Riot could adapt this, but I think there should only be first ban rotation on game 1 (to avoid the absurdly broken champs) because else the pool runs out too fast. Second ban rotation is fine, because you dont want your comp to be ruined by one pick

[@shekcmh]

In a different time line, Caedrel coaches Vitality and LS stays at Cloud9. They meet at MSI and Worlds. The begining of the new El Classico between the 2 western regions that will last till the end of Professional League.

[@julseu_lol]

@@shekcmh never have i wanted to visit another timeline so bad with this scenario

[@ChuinYih]

@@shekcmh this here is my villian origin story, where I mess with multiple timelines and fucked up the world. All I wanted was some quality pro lol.

[@julseu_lol]

Great format. Something like the all-stars event implementing this instead of other handicaps would be good. It would allow the forgotten champs to get in the hands of pros again and be seen by the audience once more.

[@Awenevis1]

@fck peace Imagine posting your comment on every thread.

[@MK-il5vc]

@fck peace imagine commenting the same thing everywhere SADGE

[@cy5386]

Makes the heart hurt knowing we will never see these LS drafts on stage

[@pavement1346]

@fck peace players dont have to go through 5 drafts worth of picks and bans from previous drafts. A much larger portion of the champions are open for players, it takes LS a lot of time because of the sheer amount of champs that had already been banned or picked

[@davidthemax2942]

@fck peace if the game auto eliminated of the hud the champs it'd be much easier because then it becomes visual

[@KanohiVahi]

@fck peace Okay we get it, you don't have to reply this to every comment saying this would be exciting

[@malter87]

of course you can see them on stage... just not gonna see them in pro play anyone can make a stage 4fun

[@petterjonasson655]

This video made me sad knowing I will never get to see it :(

[@Eathization]

This would be such a fun mode at an All-Stars event!!

[@ljr1252]

That is actually an incredible idea, have these drafts played out by EU vs NA teams, that would be hype as fuck

[@FutayuriShironeko]

This should be Competitive Bo5s, At least Bo3s format.

[@nachoms007]

This is the change pro scene needs, more thinking on drafts, more excitement for the viewers, i think this is a win win

[@TheSayk]

This would have been even better if they gave in depth explanations about their drafts and the reason they drafted they way they did.

[@jeremypen7818]

I was really hoping for an explanation, i want to understand why and how they would work

[@auxilium6001]

yeah maybe if they defeaned in discord and talked to chat about their own drafting process including predictions

[@yorujin_1121]

I like how when they both don't have anything to pick. Their comps start to look like proplay teamcomps

[@falholt940]

This needs to be played and casted

[@otoshithekid2957]

What does it take for LS to pick Renekton? Just remove 90 champions from the pool to make it playable

[@rolandfabik2475]

Ummm ackshually it was 96 not 90 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@quanganhbui1044]

Caedrel banned all ad solo laners as well lmao.

[@noreaup1732]

@@quanganhbui1044 sett was up

[@quanganhbui1044]

@@noreaup1732 So was Garen. I'm talking about real champions here, year?

[@henshaw33]

@@quanganhbui1044 muh boi kled though

[@JaceOKami]

the pro scene would be so much more enjoyable to watch when these rules applied

[@arismastro505]

@fck peace bro u answered to every comment humanly possible take a break and go touch some grass

[@devilbhrothesavage2807]

Imagine this was the way league was actually drafted. It would be amazing to see what teams came up. Hell every proplayer with a small champ pool would immediately lose his job or atleast fall down a Summit.

[@mazorizk]

well they are paid tons for been the pro 0.01%. They gotta work for it. The top isn't for everybody.

[@whitevortex8323]

@@mazorizk yh but like the 0.01% isnt expected to play like 15+champs at a professional level. You also have to think about the hours invested in a champ, i would expect a minimum of 100k mastery points per champ, and some champs may require more like asol, annivia, gangplank, azir etc. Especially if playstyles differ e.g. control mage (viktor), dps mage(ryze), burst mage, (vex) assasin (qiyana). Besides by the time someone is a pro, they usually have a small champ pool with a exception of a few players like caps and faker. Someone can be a master of a single champ like baus and they are technically still valid.

[@hatakenewt348]

@@whitevortex8323 faker and other top pros play 15+ champs at pro lvl, why would want one trick pros that fall off a cliff when the meta changes like summit.

[@joaootxutxucao3990]

@@whitevortex8323 pro players can legit first time a pick on stage and make it work they just dont wanna do it and look bad cause "job security", if a pick can counter the entire enemy team or make it unplayable for them how hard can it be to execute it given u are already part of the 0.0001% if anyone can first time a pick and make it work is the best of the best, if this kind of drafting or something similar was implemented u can bet that first timing a pick would be much more common and something to be praised rather them frown upon

[@anto2699]

would be amazing if lec have this rule . it will make bo3 so interesting

[@vezuuu7980]

@fck peace but coaches would have match of time between every draft

[@theotheodorou1374]

Or bo5

[@Xyltin]

I love the idea of champs being unique and not reusable in a series. Now for a Bo5 that would likely be too much, but in a bo3 this would be great to watch.

[@13pipez]

Honestly i think of there are enough playable Meta Champs in the Game, this would already make sense for bo3s

[@EpicDBagger]

I 1000% want this to be how best of 3’s and best of 5’s are played from now on. If Riot makes this a thing I’ll watch pro play again.

[@LacrosseAlmighty]

Love the draft content. Maybe it should be only picked champions that are taken out of future pools so that the drafts are still diverse and bans are powerful.

[@delano131100]

But bans become more powerful the less pics aviable as the less champs there are the less champs there are that do a specific job therefor banning that out has more impact then when the champ pools bigger

[@MS31459]

If the bans werent taken out of the pool it would be likely that many of the bans would be the same every game.

[@KanohiVahi]

I was thinking too if at first it should be just one of the two and not both when pros adapt to it. But idk if it would then change much. Idk it is hard to speculate how it would be cuz things have been how they are for so long

[@TheJerbol]

that makes bans less powerful...

[@nilius90]

Or maybe take Picks and Bans from the winning team out of the pool - and the loosing champs stay in it - so you only lose 10 champs per game :)

[@fabioemanuelmeier5986]

Please it would be soo entertaining to see these drafts played out. Only with LS and Caedrel as coaches not casters, so that they can explain their intentios ect.

[@Ogamra]

We need drafting rules like this in the League Pro scene so bad. Maybe I could pay attention to it for more than a season and a half once every 3-4 years.

[@Jack_Gibby]

This is like watching LEC pro mindset vs LS philosophy

[@NamoPhoenix]

Riot should try this Format at the Allstars Event

[@c3_pulsar]

I would love the idea of a showmatch with those drafts. This was peak content already but that shit would be so fucking hype

[@mustaqimhadi6381]

We went 5 drafts with veigar 0 presence, the church has plunged into darkness

[@DavinFIGJAM.]

Banned in game 3

[@mustaqimhadi6381]

@@DavinFIGJAM. im blind nvm

[@danielkuncoro3684]

This similiar format is actually already a thing in the AOV Pro Scene that was called Global Ban Pick/ All Round Ban Pick, personally i thing this format is so interesting if adapted into LOL as well because it can push a team to thing many different strategy, maybe it can adapted not in the regular league, but special tournament like rift rivals etc

[@Pookiebear]

Thinking about this idea, if they brought it into Pro leagues and implemented it it would make games so much more interesting and fun to watch because so many champions would get featured instead of the standard rotating handful un every position

[@h2wht69]

Need this for the future draft rules in pro play. Even just implementing the you can only play the champs once in a series.

[@alexchadwick6748]

Yeah, take out the bans stopping them from being picked and this turns into a cool format.

[@williamwhite8667]

Wish they would do this each week for the LCK or LEC match of the week.

[@kasperkruse1925]

i could honestly sit here and watch ls vs caedral drafts all day long and i wouldnt be close to getting bored this is one of the best ideas i have seen in a long time thank you for making this :D

[@PixelVillain]

I would 100% watch that series.

[@Ter0zak]

all you had to do is disable 96 champs to force LS to pick Renekton

[@fluxfl]

ls said they will do this with na pros and invited tarzaned too

[@chattr7450]

need more of these man, such good content

[@jalinmiller6635]

I would love to watch this honestly, PLEASE MAKE OT HAPPEN

[@shojinsensei]

with the amount of champions we have now, I really want this for competitive play

[@TiloDroid]

this was such a headache and it was the best league content ive seen since tsm draft dystopia, love you two guys

[@bielovvlad888]

Please moreee, such an amazing thing to watch

[@bluntbangs]

I actually kinda want pro play to actually be like this, but maybe with only one ban rotation. There are enough viable champions in the game now that you can pick 10 viable team comps without it feeling completely troll. It would definitely increase entertainment, and in my opinion, it would also reward creative and adaptable players.

[@dodotower8375]

This is a really cool concept would be so cool to see a tournament bo5 with this format like in the allstar games

[@DragonCraft07]

I know there was the quick explanation at the beginning of the video but I’m still confused, what exactly is this draft for?

[@huynguyen-gl4sn]

Imagine MSI having this format 😎

[@dodoliy4678]

This would unironically boost viewership of competitive league.

[@CCLethe]

What if this was in competitive. Once a champion has been picked or banned it can't be used for the entire series. Or a rule like, each team can only pick each champion once in the series(other team can still pick the champ next game but the team that picked the champ can't).

[@Darkyryus_]

GOD WE NEED MORE OF THIS.

[@nope7200]

In an alternate timeline we would see these crazy picks

[@biktorakis123]

Such a good idea for best of five

[@3monightmar3]

Sub wars with that draft would be hilarious

[@tchaipo9179]

Good content good job !!! Need more of this

[@athena3234]

The renektonnnnnnn 😭😭

[@freebeeworld]

This would be so entertaining to watch, great idea to see some pick diversity and spice it up

[@okenough123]

getting the amateur teams to play these drafts out now would be so fun to watch

[@jjason000123]

WE NEED TO SEE THIS GAME

[@anthonyxylinas7050]

I wish so badly they could both coach pro teams

[@xayahdupont2709]

PLEASE cast and coach that game. Would be so awesome.

[@rocapbg9518]

This has been suggested for months to Riot and they still haven't even a hint that they will be implementing into pro-play so Caedrel and LS are out here taking things into their own hands

[@The_oli4]

It would be so cool if this could be played by pro's at the all stars for this year with both LS and Cadrel as coaches. This is an event that would fit right along with the other events that happen there.

[@ChessHistorian]

If you guys do assemble squads, it's gotta be Cathedral's Team "Holy Spirits" and LS's Team "Last Light"

[@gadgets__]

I think this is super interesting and fun! Though I do think only picks should be locked out. This means youd eventually have to play this minigame of picking the things youve banned eventually as counters fade away. Also it's just more realistic to not have bans be locked out because a lot of pro players are champion limited, I think it's unreasonable to ask a player to go possible 20+ champions deep to pick something.

[@rodrigueznicolasfernando9046]

Man i'd really love waching this games with amateur team and you and LS Casting

[@Hlejxksoskxmsn]

More info) On the first p/b game, red side's name at the top is named "Son of a bitch"

[@samuelstrunk5525]

I like the concept a lot. Though I could also see it done as a variation, where bans are gone for the whole series but picks only for next game. Therefore you still dont get like the same drafts, since there are still more and more bans, but its not like 100 champions being unpickable in g5. Idk fun stuff, would like to see this stuff played out.

[@jirilaska9788]

This is peak content.

[@eddieoneil2919]

Imagine an international event played by these rules

[@TH-dg2mm]

Can someone just give LS team so we can watch these team comps lol

[@ViperDivinity]

Imagine Caedrel and LS mind breaking each other on drafting in professional games... It is really a pleasure to see

[@RedLuigi235]

I would pay money to watch pros have to play 3 games of this, they'd shit their pants.

[@arthuryan2412]

high quality stuff, best content so far

[@TheSayk]

This felt like they were playing chess but with league.

[@tiger5869]

I want to participate in draft battles like this we need these two to be judges for a tournament of drafting

[@borislavkoynin9089]

Sub wars with pros that are willing to play the picks?

[@zephyrod7307]

I’d be super curious to know what LS’s round 1 draft is supposed to do. Like he had a lot of champs to chose from and bard mid is an absolute enigma to me. Just giving azir free farm in exchange for roams?

[@flyingsquirrel1486]

this would be sick to see it irl

[@andrewdiamante2266]

Keen to watch these games played out!!

[@serx4994]

9:44 This is a certified "People who don't know vs people who know" moment

[@despicableglowee5207]

i was hoping for draftting content like this and if you accualy find teams to play it would be amazing

[@lazydk2654]

Do an LEC or LCS draft of players to match this, so for example caedrel can draft Caps to play mid game 3 and so on. And have the pros play these cursed matches

[@dex_6698]

I want to see those games. pls

[@Jooohnm]

I'll wait for these games

[@koreanata6951]

I can't wait to watch actual teams trying these drafts!!!! I bet any minor region teams would love to do this. And it won't be BO5, but all 5 drafts? HOT!!!

[@oxey_]

actually fun content would 100% watch these games if they were played

[@HSFJepsen]

Ask some amateur/academy team to try em out for him. Winning team wins $1000. $500 from Caedrel + $500 from LS

[@cloudenvier2260]

Oh yeah sign me up, I wanna see these games!

[@bastianventura]

A lighter version of this would be awesome to see in a competitive setting. Maybe bans that carry over throughout the series? Or a maximum of two appearances per champion during a whole BO3 or BO5, counting a strike as any pick or ban for that champions

[@mum8les384]

Gotta get this website to simulate the game

[@YoshiroPoh]

Though I only follow G2 as a casual viewer, this is really making it really interesting to watch....

[@hoanglongnguyen9166]

this stream was banger from start to finish

[@kale_bhai]

ngl The thumbnail tho holy poggersss

[@konotoki]

PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tacci2568]

what a fun it would be if they actually made a rule about only using a champion once in a series would make professional play more diversive

[@defectivepikachu4582]

its like tft but for the part of the game before the game

[@rvdandmarcoom]

That would be one of the most awesome BO5 to watch ! IF there is some level within the teams (like, not the substitute academy player from university league NA ...)

[@michaelwalker7809]

definitely should follows those plans, maybe see if some retired pros who are now streamers will play by chance??

[@dantespekken3549]

Probably a dumb question, but could you r4 Sylas in the last game as support (potentially mid flex)? Letting seju go jungle or top

[@BigPatty69]

Its so insane to me that you guys know what the other is thinking every time. I can assume some, but DAMN.

[@theoneandonlyrapunzel729]

Is there a way to apply for this as a team?

[@OldDadGamer]

What website they using for this?

[@Beterr-k7f]

How sick would it be if they did best ofs like this

[@timothydalton2388]

they should do these draft rules at worlds, actually get more than the same 20 champs every game

[@slaire6892]

I see renekton, I see LS and we really see how deep in the champ abyss we've gone into

[@nicholaskaprielian3379]

So I am only three and a half minutes in, but I really wish you guys would discuss the reasoning either during or after and maybe do odds of winning