Calculus: Arnold's limit

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Richard E Borcherds

Richard E Borcherds

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The Russian mathematician Vladimir Arnold sometimes challenged his audience to find the limit of (sin tan x - tan sin x)/(asin atan x - atan asin x). This is hard to do using standard calculus techniques, but has a very simple geometric solution.

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@mathgeeks3598
@mathgeeks3598 3 жыл бұрын
I use taylor expansion in mathematica and compute 7 times derivative for both numberator and denominator and verify the answer is one. Really impressive question
@NovaWarrior77
@NovaWarrior77 3 жыл бұрын
impressive answer
@thomasblok2120
@thomasblok2120 2 ай бұрын
I had a go using Taylor Series of both the numerator and the denominator, and the leading term in both is (-1/30)*x^7, so the limit is in fact 1. The working is a pain though, and I had to keep checking on wolfram alpha to correct my multiple errors.
@viniciusmachadovogt
@viniciusmachadovogt 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Thank you!
@stephenruby141
@stephenruby141 3 жыл бұрын
Such a satisfying solution.
@topdog5252
@topdog5252 9 ай бұрын
What a funny story. Arnold said he went through 50 pages a day, in the video with him on the Shaw Prize. I wonder how many pages some people would waste on this question.
@AlessioMortillaro
@AlessioMortillaro 3 жыл бұрын
What was the matematician's name cause I don't catch it?
@user-ds4lg1zd5z
@user-ds4lg1zd5z 3 жыл бұрын
Faltings, I think
@accideux5182
@accideux5182 Жыл бұрын
Gerd Faltings, Fields Medalist.
@Nazliorcam
@Nazliorcam 3 жыл бұрын
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@stenzenneznets
@stenzenneznets 3 жыл бұрын
Little-o notation and Taylor series stopped at the first degree can be use to evaluate this limit.
@alexanderchekmenev1217
@alexanderchekmenev1217 3 жыл бұрын
No, the first degree is not enough, because the first Taylor series terms cancel out each over and the first nonzero term is of degree 7: sin tan x - tan sin x = -1/30 x^7 + o(x^8)
@thewatchman_returns
@thewatchman_returns Жыл бұрын
Outstanding
@user-yo7fi4uu2w
@user-yo7fi4uu2w 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the proof is wrong. The two functions lie on the same side with repect to y=x. You do not have the cross.
@Nazliorcam
@Nazliorcam 3 жыл бұрын
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