Calf Visinse 7.2K 180vr bump-edited test shots

The new Calf Visinse - 7.2K 180vr "instamatic" camera
in terms of sharpness the camera is better than feared - I really would want a exposure compensation option on the screen.. and also want a constant indicator if i'm shooting to microSD or internal (24gig) storage.
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BIG issues that we are seeing on the current firmware.. if you look at vertical lines they tend to be jagged if thin.. also there are significant aromatic abrasion on the edge of the image.. and surprisingly far into the image.
The price of the camera is low for being a 180vr camera - and its great that it spit out a finished 180vr file.. - though its missing the meta tag for KZbin so you need to run it through "vr180 creator" to update the file before uploading. IF you are comfortable messing with files.. then a couple GoPro 11 / 12 / 13 with LensMod 2.0 WILL hands down out-perform the baby Calf camera.. however it is hard to beat the convenience of a ready-to-use file out of the box..

[@Calico3D]

You're right, quite impressed with the sharpness/details. That stretched crap on the top and bottom still makes me say "no thanks" though. I do look up and down in VR.

[@Sailing360]

Yeah im kinda on the fence about the stretched look. interestingly apple have chosen to but a black bar on top and bottom of their official immersive videos, thinking it have to do with removing pixels from the file / stream - a black bar in post with a slightly feathered edge might work nicely to make this official ;-)

[@AetherSummers]

Great real world demo! The resolution looks lower than I was expecting, but the aberration doesn’t look as bad as I thought it might.

[@Sailing360]

Yeah me too - i feel its a bit rough - specially compared to my still working VuzeXR which is virtually as easy to use. albeit without the screen

[@christiankoller80]

Hmm is it just me that find the quality not impressive at all? Looks like from a camera from 2012 or something. Got mine, but didn't test it yet.

[@Sailing360]

I feel the pixel-mapping is off yet - lets hope they solve that with the next couple firmware updates. Generally the easy of useage is the big charmer.

[@karismakjc]

Thanks for sample clip. I am also waiting the camera. I think calf visinse focus on social media like instagram. Many guys focus on the function and manual setting and that makes them uncomfortable. However I think this camera for simple user who just upload pictures without editing. Anyway thanks for movie clip😊

[@Sailing360]

think you are right - its a very specific user group - on the upside - it is also for now - the most compact camera with close to 8K resolution. and I feel the "dark" shadows can be opened with an reverse S curve in post. I ordered a faster microSD card to make sure its fast enough for the cars.

[@RustyPlug]

Just got mine today.

[@Sailing360]

congrats - how are you liking it. I love how compact it is

[@colinmscott]

Can someone PLEASE tell me how to upload my videos to KZbin so I can play them back on my Quest 3? I bought the camera because it was cheap, compared with the other 3D VR180 options, and claimed in the advert to be seamlessly compatible with KZbin and Quest 3. My attempts so far have failed. I can playback with no problems using SkyboxVR but of course that only lets me watch it and I can't share. I believe the issue is something to do with metadata, whatever that is. I had a go with Handbrake and with ffmpeg but I am obviously doing it wrong because none of it works properly.

[@Sailing360]

LOL - yeah I feel they missed a couple things here - first of all - that meta-tag SHOULD be included when the camera saves the file...then it would be upload ready. SECOND.. since its not - use web time-machine and look for "vr180 creator" any google search including "download" should find it. Install and open.. then select "prepare for publishing" then save that file, it will be in the same folder with added "infused". upload THAT file.. once processed it will be 180vr and can be seen by anyone with a vr-headset and the KZbin app

[@colinmscott]

@@Sailing360 fantastic! I knew it was going to be easy once I found out what to do. As you say, it's ridiculous that Calf didn't think of this before they released even the early bird units. Anyway, I have just uploaded a test video to my channel to see what happens. I understand it can take quite a while for it to be fully processed so it plays in full quality, in both VR and 3D format, so I will check on it again later. At the moment it's only 2D 1080p so I hope that changes. The other thing I find slightly odd is that the VR180 Creator software is only available from an online archive. Any idea why there isn't a current version? I would have thought VR was a booming marketplace for content creators so surely there's a demand for something like this. Or maybe everyone except me knows what they're doing. I certainly have no plans to go commercial and my content will only ever be for friends and family, but I am very grateful for your help after two painful days of tearing my hair out!

[@colinmscott]

@@Sailing360 I'm happy to report that some time later the playback settings now offer a 2160 (4k) option. I guess, for now at least, that's as good as it's going to get.

[@Sailing360]

@@colinmscott the vr180 creator was discontinued a while back by google. its a solid app tho

[@francoispierretremblay4784]

I will get mine maybe friday i guess it is in alaska now and was in taiwain yesterday. WHat is the sd card needed to film at 8k 3d 180?

[@Sailing360]

there are no info in the box - but im wondering as the card I pulled from my Canon R5c (microSD) is probably not cutting it, as shown with the stuttering cars. *the camera is shooting 7K. 7200x3600 px video and stills

[@Sailing360]

*probably a extreme pro

[@francoispierretremblay4784]

@@Sailing360 i saw that the microsd max write is 140 mbs and that cam write at max 100 mbs. the next firmware will allow 8k.on a personal note you should really mute or add free music on your video. it is very annoying.

[@sesinhosantos5047]

@@Sailing360 bought a samsung evo 512, jittery no matter what. I looked for the higher numbers I could find in known brands.

[@Sailing360]

@@sesinhosantos5047 wow seems like that could be reasonably fast.. I should get the extreme-pro cards later today - will let you know if it works

[@alexlevkin630]

Did you ever used any other vr180 cameras? The only "good" thing for the moment that I see is slightly more details vs my vuze xr. All the rest is very bad for the momemt. Exposure is bad, colours too. The worst is even with sunight a moving object is jumping. It looses frames, but not the same for both eyes. So, it is uncomfortable to watch! I hope they will fix this with firmware. With low light, it is impossible to watch when something is moving. It jitters all the time! Chromatic aberations are the last problem for me, or cutting up and down fealds.

[@sesinhosantos5047]

Right now it can be considered a scam lol. First ebcause it needs a lot of light to get rid of some of that noise, and second because it can not manage that much light. Third, it doesnt look like 7k, more like like 3 but recorded from a nokia 3100. My vivo x100 ultra records 1440p per eye, and the image is way better. Of course those videos are to watch in flat-sidebyside. It needs a lot of fixing cause this feels like a bad chinese ripoff. (I got mine today, btw, not hating just because)

[@alexlevkin630]

@sesinhosantos5047 I still hope they will fix it. The calf pro gives a decent quality. Abot light, you are right. There is a gyroscope inside, but it is not used. Without a gimbal, it is completely bad. I still think that it gives a little bit more details them my vuze xr, but wth noise and jumping. For the moment I use my vuze. At calfglobal, they said, they know abot frame dropping, but it was fixed before shipping. They ask me to reinstall the firmware. I ask them to give me the link for it. They gave me the procedure how to flash

[@Sailing360]

Yes I have shot with a couple different cameras - I have the original calf - which is better but not a lot better. and use the canon for work related shots. just yesterday mocked together a rig to try with two GoPro 12 with lens mod, cost for that rig is exactly the same $700 as the new calf.. but significantly more detailed images kzbin.info/www/bejne/nn6WeptrbraHeLM

[@alexlevkin630]

@Sailing360 I tried myself with 2 action cameras sbs. The priblem that I think is impossible to fix is the synchronisation. My brain and my eye feel directly that and I have a headache. I can watch this kind of video for 3 min. Then I feel it. Btw, with visense I found out that it can't handle correctly 100mb bitrate in low light. 50 mb is quite ok.

[@Sailing360]

@@alexlevkin630 interesting - might have a go at turning mine down to 50 then.. thank you for mentioning it. think the action cameras biggest problem is syncing.. but also to have the perfectly aligned before starting. they really must be squared up. - once thats sorted I can watch the action-cam version as long as what comes out fo my canon

[@pantainn]

Edited? Is this not straight from camera? Have you edited this in Davinci resolve?

[@Sailing360]

this is straight out of the camera - I trimmed the start-end of each clip using "preview" on the MacBook- then dropped it on FFtools to create one file with audio-video passthrough no re-compression. I DO think the camera need a curve - and it should be applied in camera, but is also easy to "open" the shadows in post.. I do not like the zig-zag lines in things like the palms in the background.. and probably would rather have a app render this outside the camera.. but I must say its nice having finished files out of the box.

[@pantainn]

Now I've just watched it on my quest 3. The purple color fringing is terrible. Even more terrible is the sound, that's so choppy and no wind reduction.

[@Sailing360]

@@pantainn yeah the audio really is strange - some of it kinda sound like underwater almost - not sure what is going on with that.