Call of Duty Warzone 2.0 - PS4/Pro/Xbox One/One X Showdown - Last-Gen Competitively Disadvantaged?

[@S1X_Bucks]

I used to play Call of Duty multiplayer so much that I forgot my console could run other games that are fun and not just anxiety inducing.

[@Superschemer34]

Lmao

[@crescentmoon256]

that is called as addiction

[@mgf909]

Exactly….. Battlefield 1 is a better game than all these call of duty’s. Plus you have Rocket League, Minecraft, Elder Scrolls, Dark Souls, games of all different types.

[@jpcarsmedia]

It's true. I used to default to FPS games. Now I prefer Microsoft Flight Simulator. It even has chill background music.

[@thedude8128]

If you get anxiety from playing games I hope you understand the game isn't the cause of that anxiety and you should seek help from a professional mental health expert. The game is the trigger, not the cause. You got deeper issues.

[@jordychinchin]

This is so satisfying to watch. Love that you guys go through the trouble of syncing up all this footage across multiple platforms

[@HueyTheDoctor]

I mean they really don't have to synchronise anything they just use different consoles to spectate the same account. It's a wet dream for them because they get easy access to the exact footage across 7 different platforms.

[@leebloketube]

Someone commented before actually watching the video! Lol

[@wollzman]

Why do these devs still target 4k for the One X..thats way too ambitious. Giving it the same resolution target for PS4 Pro is the reasonable thing and would even perform better than the PS4 Pro

[@jimmy3951]

If the base resolution for the One X was 1440p or even 1080p, it would be great

[@JG-ib7xk]

Because they know X-box fans will kick off if they don't

[@cruelwraith2games926]

Well for one the Xbox One S and Xbox One X are pretty much locked at 4K signals

[@crescentmoon256]

they hate xbox

[@bgrm1029]

Because the gpu of the one x is more powerful than the pro's but the cpu is clocked lower. Therefore, the one x can handle higher resolutions and even if the resolution were to be 480p, the fps would still be pretty much the same. Correction: The OneX's cpu is faster than the Pro's, however, it is still pretty weak and it's going to bottleneck the hell out of the gpu at lower resolutions. The Pro is more well balanced than the OneX.

[@mightymushroom4980]

I found that turning off "On Demand Texture Streaming" does give back some frame rate but it's still not enough to give it full stability, it'll also look worse but I prefer playing with it off, mines also on an M.2 drive so it seems to load textures fine on One X with 51-60fps but you can definitely see the CPU struggling when using the internal hard drive, it could also be the hard drive in mine is on the way out

[@MrStrangermoon]

on pc turning off demand texture stream thing and making stream quality thing low makes game broken look. using intel xe thing and those turn on is makes game gerannly look good. other settings not important. making them low to medium looks same. the hdd only cause first loading assets not load fully but after a few match that issue gun. saying cpu is strugling bcouse of hdd is lie. yea maybe can strugle for 1.5 second.

[@ImSumGuy]

The Xbox One X doesn't support M.2 drives, so either you're using a USB adapter or you're using the wrong term for a SATA SSD. If you're using an adapter, you wasted your money dedicating an M.2 drive to a console that's capped at 5gbps externally and 6gbps internally, and if it's an internal SSD, it might help a bit, but not as much as you think given that the console is already CPU bottlenecked and it takes CPU power to stream those assets faster. I'm sure it helps a little, but past the first minute or so once everything is loaded, it's doing next to nothing for you. USB 3.0 is capped at 5gbps and SATA at 6gbps, while M.2 can be several times faster, but if going through an adapter, would be less than those 5 or 6 gbps speeds due to how adapters work.

[@jdmahle]

I love all the videos yall do comparing systems. Seeing all the differences and framerates in a video is great. I feel people playing on whatever system they are playimg on don't really run around looking at shadows on the ground but its cool to see.

[@THmusic420]

I run around and look att shadows. My friends hate me😅

[@jdmahle]

@@THmusic420 i did that when i first got my ps5 2yrs ago but now im like whatever lol

[@thejoker420xp]

i do that with all my games, but im a graphics junkie🤷‍♂️ for me i dont care about framerate as long as it stays at or above 30, as long as the frame pacing is solid it doesnt affect acual gameplay too much. i always play with rtx on and as high of resolution as possible and run around looking for imperfections when i get bored

[@JohnV117]

I would really love to see you guys do WZ 2.0 on pc with optimized setting i feel i'm going crazy on to what's going on there with the stutters and everything!

[@zeus1117]

Console!

[@maddrone7814]

@@zeus1117what ?

[@ptsf3346]

Needless to say, how I suffered for that, the solution for me was, install the game on an nviem ssd, and adjust the frequency of the gpu to its maximum capacity, and reinstall the shadders

[@Fleepage]

What's your specs? I'm on PC & it runs like a dream

[@ottoman6733]

Really eager to see your further analysis of witcher 3 next gen…

[@brandon_nope]

I will never understand how an unstable 60 fps feels better than a locked 30 to some people

[@SolidBoss7]

Input response on the controller is BRUTAL at 30fps. I'd take an u stable 50-60fps just for the reduced input lag.

[@smurfjegeren9739]

It depends on how unstable it is I think. If you get noticeable slowdowns, I can imagine itll be rougher to aim/predict if movement suddenly chops up; compared to always have the same input lag and fluidity in the picture

[@spht9ng]

For competetive it is. For a cinematic or single-player game it is a problem.

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

@@SolidBoss7 No it isn't. The input response on the controller at 30fps is nearly indestinguishible from 50-60fps. Almost the exact same experience.

[@wssayer]

VRR!

[@GoodGamingMemories]

Since it is a competitive game, so the developers could reduce the graphics even further on the base machines to get the desired stable 60 fps... I remember Rage on PS3, which had significant visual quality issues such as low resolution, texture pop-in, slow loading of textures, but stable 60 fps, and therefore the game was very playable

[@ignacio6454]

All those fixed with an SSD! It was incredible to see what the PS3 could do. Is all about optimization.

[@reaper378]

Sorry guys bit off topic but where is the proper lowdown on the Witcher Next Gen update ? Will there be one ?

[@jackyvanmarsenille8547]

Seems like they're stalling forever so that they won't have to call out CDPR regarding the PC version.

[@SladeFFA]

@jackyvanmarsenille8547 Yeah, what gives? In hands-on from two weeks ago they mentioned it was coming on the 14th...

[@reaper378]

@@jackyvanmarsenille8547 they will lose a sub if that turns out to be true !

[@Venom_Byte]

Was about to comment this. My guess is Alex is doing a very extensive breakdown of the Ray-Tracing and all its woes. There are so many problems on PC, it's taking DF longer than expected.

[@reaper378]

@@Venom_Byte Hope so !

[@eslzack5490]

Great video as usual Tom. Thanks.

[@Joespart9010]

cringe

[@MrStrangermoon]

@@Joespart9010 great movie as usual tom crusie.

[@gamerrap23]

@@Joespart9010 Great video as usual Tom. Thanks.

[@internziko]

I guess that's why you still see base PS4's going for $200+ used.

[@BrbZrk]

PlayStation 4. What a console. What a value. Just as always

[@THOUGHTBRUSH336]

Weak console.

[@vampiszon6620]

Guys when will you do full Witcher 3 breakdown?

[@SgtPowerWeiner]

Loving the warzone 2 coverage!

[@90lancaster]

I like that they have to get this to run on an XBox One as it seems likely if they didn't it also wouldn't work on an older lap top either.

[@matthewpokora336]

A famous man once said 'Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should'. I think this applies to last gen

[@BrianWood74]

Right, there is no "next gen" as long as we are dragging "last gen" around, kicking and screaming.

[@ivanatanasov7688]

The Battlefield games on PS3 and 360 were far worse in that aspect.

[@tickdracy2275]

Neil deGrasse Tyson once said this, dunno if he came up with it or he just quoted someone else 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jeremyg9305]

@@tickdracy2275 it's from jurassic Park lol...

[@tickdracy2275]

@@jeremyg9305 lol nice

[@Yodagamer1]

I suppose it's nice for those running on last generation. I'm really shocked it drops to lower than vita's native screen resolution on ps4 and even worse on xbox one though. A possible cap to 30 might have done well for those who would like a higher screen resolution when it's hitting that low. I know it might not be everyone cup of tea, but the choice might be appreciated for some.

[@fearan9406]

ya but if your at 30 and come across some sweat boy on pc with 144hz monitor you should smile for you are in elysium and your already dead :P

[@mightymushroom4980]

If they capped frame rate to 30 then nobody would buy the game, competitive fps games that cap at 30fps tend to die off pretty quick because it's not ideal

[@ShrekShrooms]

@@mightymushroom4980 cuz it's free....

[@Yodagamer1]

@@mightymushroom4980 In the original post I forgot to write optional. That's what I meant to put, but I apparently did not do so. My bad

[@MrStrangermoon]

you only see that below 720p resolations on starting loading assets and some intense moments. its not that bad. you see those on video more bcosue they try t ocapture it.

[@itsd0nk]

I’d be extremely interested in seeing how the texture streaming performs on the older machines with internal SSD replacements over the mechanical hard drives. I’m surprised DF never tests the performance of the PS4 and Xbox One with a good internal SSD replacement. I got significant performance gains in many games on my original PS4 and PS4 Pro after installing a really fast Samsung SSD for the internal hard drive. It also made the OS 100% perfectly responsive and crisp, even on the older PS4. It should be it’s own platform for testing to be honest lol.

[@Lavoss05]

Same here on my Xbox One X with texture streaming set to high, the game looks really good on campaign and multi-player and I have no late textures filling in doors, walls and floors and the game looks good, upgrading the HDD to a SSD was well worth it given plan on keeping mine till the next enhanced consoles come out.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Because they have tons of other things to test and going over 7 platforms alone is hard enough

[@itsd0nk]

@@MrInuhanyou123 Yeah it’s already a LOT for them to test, but in situations like this one it would’ve been worth tossing it into the mix to show that there actually is a middle ground on this game if you have an SSD in any of the last gen consoles.

[@BattleForSanity]

It's not about hardware between Playstation and Xbox, it's about people behind that hardware. When I saw how God of War Ragnarok looks on a 65" 4k tv on a base PS4 and how it runs, it just proves that last gen console is powerful enough to give a satisfying experience when you have people behind the that hardware and project to optimize it properly. Warzone 2.0 is probably the same story. Sony has more "heart" when it comes to gaming, compared to Microsoft.

[@claydavis8924]

where witcher tho

[@DC-xq6oi]

Are you guys doing witcher 3 enhanced optimized settings for pc?

[@mikebackatyou]

I believe Alex said on Twitter that he will be.

[@damoncattleman5504]

I have an idea. Why not compare the ps4 pro/ xbox one x to current gen consoles, but give the last gen consoles a ssd upgrade. Im curious how it would fair with load times and texture streaming and pop in.

[@griffgames9538]

Even with SSD, they're restricted by the SATA bus, and the fact that they borrow CPU resources for storage decompression/streaming, while the Series and PS5 have dedicated IO co-processors for hardware-accelerated decompression. Having said that, last-gen can capitalize on the raw physical spec speed of an installed SSD. To speed up loading and 'massage' some asset/LoD streaming that may stumble on the default spinning plate HDD. It can't produce miracles, however, given the last-gen console inherently bottlenecks any recent SSD's best case performance due to lacking dedicated IO hardware.

[@damoncattleman5504]

@@griffgames9538 True, nevertheless, a ssd will maximize the ps4 pro and x box x performance. That's why Im interested in the upgrade, and results it will show.

[@GBDogg504]

@@damoncattleman5504 I have a PS4 Pro w/ internal 1 tb Samsung 860 Evo SSD upgrade. Honestly it's no slouch in overall performance on any PS4 Pro enhanced games(ALOT) and a massive upgrade from a stock ps4. Games are generally 1440- to up to up to1800p resolution; and 4k resolution output. It varies depending on game though. The loading speed is definitely (on average) 2x as fast as a stock PS4 HDD. Games load up fast enough for sure; not an annoyance like stock PS4 HDD. At this point I would just wait to get the new upcoming PS5 model with detachable disc drive. That comes out in an estimated 6-9 months. Unless you already own a Pro and plan on swapping an SSD into it, then I would wait to get new PS5 model. I bought my Pro w/SSD 1.5 yrs ago, I sold my PS4 to decrease the cost of that purchase. I plan on keeping my Pro even after buying the upcoming PS5 model with detachable disc drive.

[@damoncattleman5504]

@@GBDogg504 Nice, bro, Im interested on how it would stack against a HDD ps4 pro in terms off loads times, texture streaming and pop in.

[@GBDogg504]

@@damoncattleman5504 A PS4 Pro W/SSD is 40% faster loading speeds than a Pro HDD; Pro HDD is only 10% faster loading than a stock PS4 HDD. I own ALOT of game consoles, and sold some of them too. There's less texture pop in too/benefits. Digital foundry tested the full benefits-look that up if you want. As a good example --Even the recent open world game Elden Ring loads up very quickly on a Pro w/SSD. Honestly, I wouldn't care to buy a PS5 EVER if PS4 games support/release was continued. But, PS4 game release will eventually end.

[@DeMoNoVsKi_]

Mostly what I expected from this. Very good job syncing everything up so well. You guys should do a GTAV video on the new Ray Tracing added to the game the other day. It's actually quite impressive to me and I've been playing quality mode on for Ps5 since it was added. I'd like to see how well I'm able to tell the framerate staying stable while in the new quality mode with Ray-Tracing on. It still feels so much better than the Ps4 Pro version did I played for so long even in the new Ray Tracing Quality mode. Before the Ray Tracing was added the other day it wasn't worth it to me to not play in Performance RT mode. Now that full Ray-Tracing looks and runs stable to me I can't go back with how much better the game really looks.

[@SOTVT]

Absolutely. The reflections even don't lower the resolution or harm the performance. That's how it's done. When I'm looking at CDPR, that's another story..yeah, I know RTGI is extremely demanding in this game etc. but the framerate is horrible and the image-quality blurry af

[@klbk]

@@SOTVT I thought the experience is great on ps5/xsx, unlike on PC. lol.

[@mrrdwchldrn5056]

I dont understand why devs are going for 4K on 1X, when a lower res would give more stable gameplay. Drop down to PS4Pro res and it would be way better...

[@delonejuanderer]

Day 3 of no Witcher 3. Alex Wyd.

[@George-um2vc]

Hopefully not waiting for CDPR to fix it so he can act like CDPR didn’t just BOTCH THE CRAP out of their Witcher 3 next gen update. But in truth I don’t think that’s what is happening, I’m sure Alex is doing extensive testing and will go very hard on CDPR coz honestly the PC version is a monstrosity, if he doesn’t go super hard on them that would be wrong, you can’t drag Gotham Knights through the mud then act like W3 update is not just as bad if not worse😬

[@delonejuanderer]

@George that's all I'm waiting to see because I'm on a 4090 and it hasn't been a smooth experience at all so I'm hoping they call CDPR/Nvidia out on crapping this one out. I'm still excited to see what Alex produces but with how this has been going I feel he won't be giving it the love he gave Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition.

[@timwillems1985]

I'm very happy with the performance on the ps5! It plays wonderful. My friends on ps4 are not very happy. They prefer wz1 because of the performance issues from WZ2.

[@christophermiller577]

Don't understand the obsession on One X to make it 4K. They should of lowered the resolution to make it locked 60fps. 1440p/60 would of been a perfect balance.

[@Not_Lewis]

Where Witcher 3 next gen vid?

[@reaper378]

@@S1X_Bucks no it didnt ...

[@RPGOverviews]

@@S1X_Bucks that was a CD Project Red event to preview it not DF’s internal tests.

[@S1X_Bucks]

IGN put one out 3 days ago

[@Not_Lewis]

@@S1X_Bucks I want a deep dive into the tech of this update not a review

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

@@Not_Lewis Same here, plus IGN's analysis videos are a joke. They're substantially inferior to DF's vids and not worth wasting a second watching.

[@oktusprime3637]

Meanwhile on PC: Decrease graphics to minimum. Increase draw distance to maximum.

[@JorisKeijser]

I wish you guys dived deeper into the different combinations of texture streaming settings and how those affect performance both initially and after playing a couple games. When I played my first game on ps4 pro, it was full of unloaded textures and performance tanked to absolutely unacceptable framerates. This game is not an "install, boot and compare" kinda thing.

[@Lavoss05]

I have a One X with a Samsung 870 EVO internal with texture streaming on High and with a Ethernet cable connected to the console and runs great.

[@PlumbCarton5607]

@@Lavoss05 i didn't know the Samsung 870 Evo was a hard disk drive

[@Lavoss05]

@@PlumbCarton5607 Thanks for the heads up

[@SHGames97]

If I were a base Xbox One owner I'd be BEGGING Infinity Ward to dramatically reduces graphical settings on it even to mw3 last gen quality if it meant any extra pixels or frames at all. Very sad state of affairs there, tho still mightily impressive on other systems

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

It's not gonna do it, dipping to 450p resolution and still drops into the 30s haha. It's long overdue to retire that system forever.

[@wanderingwobb6300]

It's already at dramatically reduced settings with the resolution dropping very low. Not much more that can be done other than the option of a 30FPS cap for consistency.

[@MarcABrown-tt1fp]

Well the console is nearly TEN years old, millions of the poor thing is old and tired at this point not only being simply inadequate CPU wise even for 2014 standards, but also probably begging to be serviced. Not to mention how slow it is to boot up, or load games and assets off that slow laptop spinning HDD.

[@SHGames97]

I see what you guys are saying, for sure, that doesn't negate the slight CPU clock advantage toward the Xbox One. (1.6 ghz PS4 & around 1.8ghz for Xbox One.) In the Hitman reboot you can see the CPU advantage in play giving the Xbox higher fps. So if they brutally compromised and retooled the visuals. I see it easily hitting PS4 frame rates. They won't and it should be retired. Better yet shouldn't have been released. Doesn't change the fact that they did release it & clearly went for feature parity for some reason instead of compromising sharply for memory bandwidth/GPU deficiency. So I agree pretty much with everything being said, so if I only used Xbone and couldn't upgrade. I'd be cool with Blops 3 on PS360 visuals if they could hit higher fps. Or as someone said, LOCK IT TOOOOO 30FPS

[@ammanus356]

@@SHGames97 Where did you see this? Hitman drops frames harder and more often on xbox one, and uses more cpu for its front end than ps4. DF coverage showed this... If youre gonna lie, make sure the evidence isnt 1 search away

[@Vsevolod3788]

Lower than PS2 resolution! WOW!! What an achievement!

[@Hara2.]

You should test the fidelity FX Cas. I'd like to see what that does to performance if anything

[@AZITHEMLGPRO]

I think that just does ai sharpening. The resolution scaling is more for performance

[@MrStrangermoon]

its not make any diffrence on one s ı tested but on pc intel xe quality or pefromance thing make diffrence .infact the one s look like those intel xe on pc.

[@Healcraft]

@@AZITHEMLGPRO its not ai just sharpening

[@cezardinco4613]

News about the witcher 3 next gen update video?

[@anytimeaustin7112]

Just waiting for the Witcher 3 Next-Gen Update review

[@sumitupadhayay2270]

That 720p resolution's not gonna be obsolete for a long time to come especially coz of a series s this time😵‍💫

[@gameskyjumper1721]

I wish for this gen going forward to completely ditch Xbox One, S, X, SS and PS4, Pro. Make games only for XSX and PS5.

[@MrStrangermoon]

@@gameskyjumper1721 then you play with 10 people

[@jeremyg9305]

@@gameskyjumper1721 they are def not dropping the series S...

[@idakev]

@@MrStrangermoon Probably more than 30 million now.

[@ragnar3187]

I'm really impressed how the game still holds up on One S , but they can push it more to run better... thanks for the video DF!

[@MrStrangermoon]

easy make shadows quality lowest one s run way better. infact game looks same low and lowest texture qulity and ı think one s is texture quality not lowest its low. if you make those lowest not low it can run better than base ps4 and look same.

[@ragnar3187]

@@MrStrangermoon true , i would rather get 60 fps and a good resolution better than graphics

[@pifandrei5743]

Looks the same to me . When we was kids and play kids games, we was lucky if it run the game. It didn't matter the graphics.

[@retroroninx]

Xbox One X looks great even with a few framedrops. What people forget the One X is pushing 4k and the others are Much lower resolution.

[@egorromanov5431]

Witsher 3... Need you're guidance there

[@ZeitGeist_TV]

As always the Xbox One X is pushed for resolution vs a true 60fps mode. All they had to do was match the resolution to the PS4 Pro and it would lock more consistently the 60 fps even above the former system since it’s CPU is faster along with extra/faster ram and that monster GPU.

[@griffgames9538]

It's ironic you used the term "True 60fps" -- considering the Xbox One X was launched trumpeting the "True 4K" slogan. The One X launched a full year after PS4 Pro and cost $100 more than the Pro, but you received a better spec on paper for that 100 buck premium. Sadly, both the Pro and One X were stuck with the ancient Jaguar CPU, as AMD had no new APU to offer MS and Sony for the mid-gens in 2016-17. So the Pro and One X are just turbocharged versions of the same 2012-era laptop chipset. The One X is far better equipped to produce 'True' 4K (2160p) frame buffers than the Pro, while the Pro has specialized reconstruction hardware to hit 4K output. The rub off, unfortunately, is that too many One X versions attempted higher than recommended resolutions,which compromised frame-rate. Still hamstrung by the frail Jaguar cores.

[@ZeitGeist_TV]

@@griffgames9538 It’s up to devs as to what resolution they seek along with the the performance they want. If Call of Duty is supposed to be about 60fps simply bumping the resolution down to PS4 Pro level as I stated would put it above it in performance metric since the more capable hardware would be better suited at stick to said fps. I suspect Sony’s deal with Activision with it being the lead platform is the reason. Xbox One X Jaguar CPU run at 2.3 GHz while the Pro run at 2.1 GHz. The PS4 Pro does nothing in terms of reconstruction that Xbox can’t and Call of Duty uses a great reconstruction or up sampler of their own. At the very least there should have been a resolution and fps mode on Xbox One X but anyone with a freesync or VRR TV or monitor will fare better.

[@griffgames9538]

@G P Options like 1620p and 1800p can reconstruct to 4K output in a very pleasing way, if the temporal solution is adequate.

[@griffgames9538]

@@ZeitGeist_TV It's the One X vastly superior game-available VRAM + superior bus bandwidth and GPU spec that leads to higher resolution aspirations compared to the Pro, but unfortunately the frail Jaguar CPU cores in the One X, regardless of minor clockspeed boost, can't hold up their side of the spec balance.

[@ZeitGeist_TV]

@@griffgames9538 Correct which is why I don't like the arbitrary need to push for higher resolution over performance when there is no offering of performance mode. My hope is that the Activision deal goes through and we get a dual mode feature implemented for both the Pro and One X.

[@SweBeach2023]

I guess it's getting pretty clear developers need to make a clean break between Xbox One (X) and Series S/X. The Xbox One is still a great console, but we need to keep our expectations down in regard to what kind of graphics to expect from it. It doesn't mean games can't look great, such as Yooka-Laylee, but highly realistic games are not viable.

[@10whiten99]

Pretty amazing that devs are still working on the base Xbox One. Even at the beginning of its life it struggled to maintain 1080p on pretty much every game. Crazy that almost 10 years later it’s still going.

[@MrStrangermoon]

its not 10 years out ont 2014 its 8 year.the xbox 360 out 2005 it end 2013. techolgy changed on 2011 era directx 9 directx 11 games. now directx 11 to 12 games not a change only updgrade some effects like ray tracing. loading times a joke. nintendo 64 was using cartridge against next gen cd and dvd it was faster but people buy ps1 ps2 still. loading times not make you next gen. if you compare base ps4 only 20 third pary aaa games 1080p on base ps4 like rdr2 elden ring mgs5 etc against one..the 60 fps and 1080p games mgs 5 cods and mortal kombats. thats it. around 20 aaa games both console 1080 p 60 fps. and around 30 aaa games like dooms bethesda games etc both 1080p 30fps . and rest both console 900p for many games. there is bunch of xbox one games get 1080p after df reviews. like witcher 3 batman arkam knight. basicly its not so diffrent each other. those 1080p games also not always 1080p mostly both consoles. if you compare exlusive titles on ps4 grantrisomos 1080p 60 fps on xbox one forza 567. ps4 exlusive cinematic games on base ps4 30 fps. on xbox one halos gears of wars 60 fps and bcouse of more forza games xbox one actualy have more 1080p 60fps games on exlusive. only forza horizons 30fps.

[@arrafi204]

X1 running on 900p bud, it even touch 30fps line.

[@danielainger]

@@MrStrangermoon It is 10 years the consoles released November 2013.

[@10whiten99]

@@MrStrangermoon well I wasn’t expecting this

[@xtr.7662]

the xbox one was very weak already but this game could have been a little bit better since it is more optimisized for ps consoles all of them perform better than the xbox counterparts

[@Ford-wt8rn]

Love this channel but any Crises Core video or Witcher 3? Both seem more tangible to graphical tech no?

[@ddmmmm771]

give them time they have a full plate rn and are catching up

[@DatHombre]

"Tangible"?

[@TimothyLeeClark]

Series S is almost always $250 and available everywhere. It’s time to let last gen go.

[@MrStrangermoon]

the 3050 is expensive and playstation players not get series s so. collectors disk guys also not get on xbox side.

[@Twollsy]

@@MrStrangermoon tbf there's better value cards then the 3050

[@MrStrangermoon]

@@Twollsy speak for usa and eu market. its expensive elsewhere. same as series x ps5 prize.

[@melonytoni9016]

Am I the only one who thinks warzone looks outdated? It doesnt look terrible but if you would have told me that a game from 2016 I would believe it. Everything just looks really flat. A game like battlefield 1 from 2016 still looks graphically better. They really gotta do something with this engine.

[@benr8071]

Why don't they just make the one x the best last gen version by making it a locked 1440p 60fps locked

[@merlintlou]

It's so dumb to push the one x to 4k when it can not reach 60 FPS....

[@crescentmoon256]

it's because they hate xbox

[@FamishedYoshi]

I feel like at this point it has to be on Microsoft. I've seen so many games do the same thing where they push 4k over performance. And it was marketed as native 4k machine. It has to be because I also don't understand why devs wouldn't make that sacrifice for performance

[@sanji663]

Because of the trash cpu :)

[@ammanus356]

@@FamishedYoshi Microsoft have no say in third party cross platform games res targets

[@mariusztrynkiewicz4862]

Where is Witcher 3 PC video?

[@sebode87]

Exactly the comment I was looking for, why are they taking so long! No one cares about another cod video.

[@p3ngu1npleyz43]

Petition to add performance mode to base last-gen consoles. Reduce graphics quality to increase resolution and stability

[@mrsittingmongoose]

You’re not getting that. They have already cut it back as much as they can. It’s currently cpu and storage limited because of the world. The only thing they can do is cap to 30fps and increase resolution a bit.

[@Lavoss05]

I agree with you on this one 720P 60 on base PS4 And Xbox One and 1080-1440/60P on the enhanced consoles. I think it's messed up that developers have not been adding the 1080P/60 mode on the enhanced consoles anymore besides Halo Infinite.

[@xenonronin7789]

Xbox One X has a much sharper image than all the other consoles except Series X and PS5. Sure it drops a few frames but the FOV and detail make it the best looking last gen version and third best looking console overall with a higher resolution than the Series S.

[@offspringfan89]

Great review as usual from Tom, which is a CoD and BF _connoisseur_ at this point. But One X being slower than PS4 Pro is inexcusable, it's clear only PS4 Amateur and Pro versions were optimized.

[@rileyhance318]

i would say they are lucky the base consoles are supported at all. ps3 and 360 didnt see this kind of after life support

[@superqaxclub]

If they decided to support last gen consoles they could have cut support base last gen console (PS4 and Xbox One) and support later one like PS4 Pro and Xbox One X. Or their software and OS should start taking advantage of SSD instead of slow HDD

[@MrInuhanyou123]

That's impossible. One x and pro are PS4 and Xbox one with more gpu power and a CPU overclock Pointless to stop supporting them

[@jordanrivas7398]

All I want for Christmas is for you guys to finish the Witcher 3 next gen analysis.

[@jordanrivas7398]

IT’S HERE!!!

[@david.godlewski]

great coverage. While i understand the sentiment of wanting them to move on from previous gen, I find myself feeling for those who can't fully enjoy their consoles anymore bc of the performance on new games. I had to sell my PS5 for financial reasons for about 9 months and had to play all my games on base PS4. It was fine, but I was privileged enough to know it was temporary. I feel as though this performance is an injustice to fans. Maybe this SHOULD be the last COD to support last gen, but it should support it well regardless.

[@WigWoo1]

How do you have matching footage for the different consoles? Since warzone is only 4 players max how would you get all 4 consoles to spectate a 5th identical person? Since you can only spectate the person that killed you, did you somehow have all 4 consoles die from the same player?

[@МухаммедАли-б7д]

WITCHER 3 NEXT-GEN?

[@sonnydemichele4903]

My main concern is they should give the person the ability to adjust settings as they want instead of a one size fits all! That’s what closes the gap between pc and consoles! Consoles are powerful enough to set fps or resolution to however you want it! My personal example is fps isn’t everything, a higher fov vs 60fps I will probably beat the other guy trying to shoot me first lol!

[@ryanwoodworth1841]

High on life on xbox series x soon please DF

[@spenny2cents]

They aren’t covering that trash 😂

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

Where is the Witcher 3 "next gen" PS5/Series X/PC analysis and comparison video? Are you just not going to do it now? You guys said there was going to be a video at release, well that was a few days ago already.

[@JG-ib7xk]

Give them a chance, they didn't know it was going to be so broken and buggy at launch did they.

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

@@JG-ib7xk I'll give you that, it's definately crap on PC atm. Consoles are fine though, but I guess maybe they're waiting for PC to get fixed first so they can do the whole thing in one video instead of doing two (one for consoles now, one for PC later - which could also compare).

[@crescentmoon256]

can't you see the changes without these guys pointing what those changes are ?

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

@@crescentmoon256 No I cannot. I need DF to tell me what's going on because I'm blind and dumb. s/ Speaking of dumb, that's what your question was. Any more of them?

[@MBeeching]

The maximum resolution targets seem ludicriously ambitious - dynamic resolution is a useful tool but should be picking up the slack, not permanently leaned upon. Taking the One X for example, surely a 2560x1440 with a 60fps target and 10-20% dynamic resolution would be infinitely preferable? If performance still won't comply to a 16.6ms frame time with dynamic res they need to be reduced.

[@superqaxclub]

I don't understand the push of 4K resolution on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X for current games when their hardware are old now. Also those last gen console only support 4K 30Hz through HDMI and they don't support outputing 1440p, only either 4K or 1080p

[@AzaiaMonota]

@@superqaxclub What are you talking about both PS4 Pro and X1X support 4K 60Hz and X1X fully supports 1440p at up to 120Hz as well

[@xtr.7662]

its clear that this game favors ps consoles rather than the xbox counterparts the xbox one x shoud be performing the same or better at dynamic 4k compared to the 1512p ps4 pro since most games like rdr2 show the xbox at 4k and the ps4 pro checkerboard or 1440p and the xbox always performs better

[@muhammadkhan8949]

I agree, an optimized settings for Warzone would be great

[@mj-7444]

They did what they could this time it’s just this game is truly meant for high powered hardware beyond what even the series x can handle.

[@janklaassen6404]

Where is the Witcher 3 PC analysis?

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

I want the console's analysis too (PS5/Series X), but right now I'd settle for just the PC one.

[@montygill2835]

Xbox one just struggle's.

[@H-L..]

Cod lost its way after 2012 but wow everything since 19 has been a new level of low

[@snook155]

So the ps4 pro's locked vertical resolution is higher than the ps5's minimum vertical resolution?

[@Lavoss05]

Xbox One X owner here and mine has a internal SSD and to be honest it runs good and pop in isnt that bad as in on this video with doors, walls and floors taking a while to load in. My advise to all my last gen players is to invest into a SSD even if its a USB 3.0 external one its well worth it and games of the future and in the past just run a lot better.

[@miggies8140]

Please optimised settings for pc

[@mbsfaridi]

The option to turn off vsync should be given for such variable frame rate.

[@cruelwraith2games926]

Seeing as I have the PlayStation 4 original and the original Xbox One in the Xbox One X I would say it's down to your preference

[@licensetoshred]

Still waiting for the Witcher 3 final analysis/PC review, considering ya know...the state of the current game is abysmal. Surprised they haven't released a video on it yet.

[@reaper378]

I think everyone is will be interesting to hear the reason .... Maybe Alex is poorly ?

[@licensetoshred]

@@reaper378 People with 3080s and upwards are also saying performance is terrible and the games a mess at the moment. My friend has a 3080Ti and couldn't even stand getting past White Orchard because the performance was so terrible. So it's not just mid or low tier systems or whatever you consider 'poorly'. I have a 3060Ti and R5 5600 myself.

[@licensetoshred]

@@reaper378 Dude, you literally asked the same question in this thread I did and agreed it's current state is terrible. Just because I have a mid tier GPU doesn't mean the game isn't an unoptimized mess at the moment, you know it yourself hence why you posed the same question.

[@licensetoshred]

@@reaper378 oh lol. You meant Alex from DF didn't you? 🤣

[@reaper378]

@@licensetoshred Yup 😆

[@stevebob240]

I didn't even know the old gen had Warzone 2, kind of impressive for the old hardware even though its obviously no longer the target.

[@George-um2vc]

Hey DF, will you review Witcher 3 Next Gen on PC? It’s really bad performance even on 4090….

[@motr7156]

2:16 game forgot to render parachute lines 🤣🤣🤣 Console "optimizations"

[@ppson]

Would have been nice to have seen a FOV comparison on the PS5 + Xbox Series video too. Also I think you should have compared the resolution in addition to the FPS when switching between 80 and 120 FOV.

[@angelkof]

for those of you who are retrogame lovers, a comparison of crisis core psp x pc is missing

[@rvalent9366]

old gen should have an option to lock to 30 fps so it would favor the resolution a bit, which would make the image clearer...

[@snook155]

I wonder what the framerate on the pro is like when set to 1080p

[@balaam_7087]

*A Tale of Two Al Mazrah Cities* : It was the best of times (Series X), it was the worst of times (Xbone).

[@celeroon89]

Why are'nt you guys covering the disaster on the witcher 3???

[@brutalschel]

What happened?

[@reke9592]

I’m sure they are. The game just released. Chill

[@jackyvanmarsenille8547]

They don't want to have to criticize CDPR. They will put on the soft gloves.

[@celeroon89]

@@reke9592 Okey, but how come they did a video on The Callisto Protocol stright after launch? Wierd dude

[@celeroon89]

@@jackyvanmarsenille8547 Yeah my thoughts exactly

[@keken_25_pr48]

Nice video comparison! I just install 870 1TB yesterday on my PS4 Pro can't wait to go home n tested

[@IrrationalCharm]

I'm curious.. is there a difference in performance between the launch Xbox One and the Xbox One S?

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

Maybe 1 or 2fps less

[@carpetfluff35]

If this was the S in this video then it's either going to be the same or worse. Probably best avoided unless you have a really high tolerance for unfair deaths.

[@alexbolt5]

There baisically the same won’t really notice any meaningful difference.

[@wanderingwobb6300]

It's the same

[@jcfan1979]

The GPU in the One S is clocked higher to 914MHz, up from 853MHz, which bumps the overall power to 1.4Tflops from 1.31Tflops. It also has faster ESRAM Bandwidth 219GB/s from 204GB/s. It doesn't make a very noticeable difference overall but maybe a few frames here or there.

[@GSDhandler1]

I bought an Xbox series S this weekend, after playing on an xbox 1 S since warzone 2 was released, I felt disadvantaged in every way. From items popping out of boxes and taking an extra 1/2 second to show on the ground ( my squad would pinch it before It loaded in) 50-50 gunfights felt more like 5-95 in favour of my enemies. Sniping was just a waste of time as you couldn't even see enemies before you need ressing. I'd average 0-2 kills a game max. Enter the series S. Winning my gun fights consistantly. Sniping is a dream. The map looks gorgeous and loads up 30 seconds faster than the xbox 1. And I picked it up for £200. Average kills now 4-6 per game. If you're debating whether to uograde...... Do it!!

[@GSDhandler1]

@Uncle Hoax it runs really well, I don't have anything to compare it to other than the xbox 1 s which I had. The graphics are a lot more polished but the real difference for me is the frame rate. I can compete for the top 10 most games in warzone consistantly now.

[@alex_gaming9585]

PS4 pro is an amazing console.

[@Onlyicedmilk]

It’s really not lol

[@Onlyicedmilk]

@@RandomGamingMoments925 old ass weak system lmao

[@RandomGamingMoments925]

It really is. It's not the strongest, but it has solid developer support and talented developers who are willing to use it's full potential. Teraflops are pointless when you don't have the talent or ambition to do anything other than come up with excuses. An idiot in a Lambo will still lose to a skilled driver in a Toyota.

[@RandomGamingMoments925]

@@Onlyicedmilk Still pisses on the One X, because the devs actually optimise for it. Here, wipe your tears, though it's not gonna change reality. At least it's not a trainwreck-waiting-to-happen like the Series S

[@alex_gaming9585]

@@Onlyicedmilk You are saying that PS4 PRO is "old week ass sistem" but you also have an Xbox series S Oh the irony...

[@bg8324]

Did you guys ever do an optimized settings video for this??

[@milaaan5851]

I bought an Xbox One S for $85 on Monday. I think it was worth it.

[@lazarusgowan]

So we know FOV effects the games performance, do you know if having the game stream high definition textures effects the performance at all?

[@oliverman6168]

Time to remove the last gen tourniquet around the neck.

[@ChadKenova]

There is absolutely no reason the ps pro should run better than the one x not sure why devs always make dynamic resolution scaling higher on the x and makes it run worse.

[@Darthan81]

Installing an SSD in your PS4 pro, will that helt with popins?

[@GraveUypo]

this need to push one x to 4k makes it lesser than it could be. it should target 1800p

[@AZITHEMLGPRO]

I love how you said GOOlag

[@danieldean2614]

@AZITHEMLGPRO that's because it's how it's supposed to be pronounced.

[@Nick_Lavigne]

You know it's over when it's running in standard definition

[@BrotherKnowledge.]

If VRR-capable t.v.s were common, the push for setting the Xbox One X at 4k would make sense. But since this isn't the case... 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@hypno18s]

Vrr TVs are basically gonna be common anyway I mean look at vizio Hisense all the main brands low end tvs they all support it now.

[@AndreiEUR]

540р but workinng its beter then nothinng!!

[@dominikderegowski3527]

so i'm wondering if the ssd would help to load textures faster on ps4?

[@gamerrap23]

Absolutely! It helps a bunch.

[@strawberrysherbet96]

It does. I put one in mine. The base is a beast. One thing about PlayStation is that every generational console PlayStation releases it’s always more future proof than Xbox. I also compared it to my one x and one x has at least 10 fps jump over the ps4 and u can feel it. It definitely feels like 60 fps to me I also have an ssd in there. I didn’t want the series s after that lol no point if imma play the same 2 games. Fortnite and Warzone 2

[@musguelha14]

The ONE S is so bad it's funny. Looks like a Switch game.

[@spenny2cents]

That’s good news for COD coming back to a Nintendo console, they are practicing the optimization on Xbox first lol

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

@@spenny2cents they may as well just port cod mobile onto the switch as that's the only one I could see it being able to run.

[@KINGBARBOZA]

There gonna be a Witcher 3 Next Gen PC Review?