1967 STP Turbine

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callron1

callron1

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Condensed story of the 1967 STP Turbine powered race car at the Indianapolis 500
May 1967

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@randyweeks8194
@randyweeks8194 5 жыл бұрын
I was there in 67, my first Indy and that car had the field covered so bad it wasn't funny. He led the first lap and never looked back. My buddy and I left thinking he would win going away and we were shocked to hear he broke and coasted down pit road with 7.5 miles to go. We were nearly out of the infield when he broke. You could not hear him coming and had to watch the track to catch him going by, what a sight it was to watch that car, I loved it!! Whoosh and he was gone by you, so cool!!! I still love those turbine cars!!
@dallisb1047
@dallisb1047 5 жыл бұрын
I was born that May. Wish that I had been old enough to watch the STP Turbine car race 🏁!
@randyweeks8194
@randyweeks8194 5 жыл бұрын
I was in the Navy back then and my buddy and I had the weekend off, so we went to Indy for the race. That car is in the Indy museum, go check it out if you can!!!@@dallisb1047
@steveoppy9216
@steveoppy9216 5 жыл бұрын
Randy Weeks didn’t the Turbine again the next year I thought there were 3 I thought Graham Hill and Art Pollard drove the
@WebfootWanderings
@WebfootWanderings 4 жыл бұрын
@@steveoppy9216 Yep. Joe Leonard was on the pole with one of them. They weren't as dominant in 68 because they'd been limited.
@soylentteal
@soylentteal 6 жыл бұрын
The sad old mantra: If you can't beat 'em, ban 'em.
@tnitron9750
@tnitron9750 6 жыл бұрын
Seventh Mist sounds alot like Nascar Adjust the rules cause someone smart might get an advantage Stifle progress and people go elsewhere. I was there in 68. The wedge was not the same car.
@PrinceAlhorian
@PrinceAlhorian 6 жыл бұрын
Did it with the turbine. Did it with the Wankel. Did it with Diesel. Because the Dinosaurs making the rules hate progress. I swear, if reciprocating steam engines could maintain that kind of velocity they would ban the Gasoline Piston engine altogether.
@neilpirelli9240
@neilpirelli9240 6 жыл бұрын
Did it with Alex Jones.
@Malc180s
@Malc180s 5 жыл бұрын
That's not it at all though. All of the other race teams would just adopt whatever the fastest technology was. They could beat them no problems. The question was, do you want to have a turbine racing series, or a petrol racing series?
@markhall7646
@markhall7646 5 жыл бұрын
What's truly miserable about the mantra is this- The Democrats operate by it to this day, as if it were Holy Writ or Divine Utterance.
@robertthompson2237
@robertthompson2237 5 жыл бұрын
Listened on the radio to this race with my Dad. Broke my 16 yr old heart when that car went out of the race😕
@steveoppy9216
@steveoppy9216 5 жыл бұрын
Robert Thompson I was 13
4 жыл бұрын
I was 20. My dad and I watched it together. Very disappointed in result.
@777jones
@777jones 4 жыл бұрын
Radio memories are more intense than TV! Lol
@briannotafan3368
@briannotafan3368 4 жыл бұрын
me & my friend were glued to th TV for that race
@augieschultz2530
@augieschultz2530 4 жыл бұрын
I saw the race live on “closed circuit TV” at the Santa Monica Civic. Parnelli was always my hero and I couldn’t have been more disappointed. This year was going to be my first in person 500 until COVID-19 hit. It’s 1967 all over again!
@rickss69
@rickss69 2 жыл бұрын
I was there as well. Remembering Jim Hertibese driving the last front engine Offy to ever make it's way around the track.
@TomKirkman1
@TomKirkman1 4 жыл бұрын
The car's AWD had as much to do with its dominance as did the Turbine engine.
@herbb8412
@herbb8412 Жыл бұрын
Probably, but I suspect the chassis design also played a large role. There’s been other 4wd entries over the years
@shiddy.
@shiddy. 5 жыл бұрын
1:15 wow getting complimented going through tech inspection - that's deep
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 жыл бұрын
Ya you really built a nice car but we are going to have to reduce your intake restrictor until you are no longer competitive ..
@beachcottage3740
@beachcottage3740 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, what? Somebody at Indy congratulating a team owner for innovation?!? Did this happen on a parallel timeline?
@willbeasy2898
@willbeasy2898 4 жыл бұрын
The chassis was designed by an aircraft engineer named Ken Wallis. I’d dearly love to go over that chassis with a fine tooth and comb. The thing looks incredible!
@jimvandemoter6961
@jimvandemoter6961 5 жыл бұрын
This was back in the day when carmakers were still allowed to create and experiment with new ideas. Racing has become so homogenized that it's just one big bore.
@TheaLorraine
@TheaLorraine 4 жыл бұрын
ditto
@Patrick_B687-3
@Patrick_B687-3 4 жыл бұрын
In just about all Motorsport you could say. It was all much more exciting, and interesting back when...
@chrisrautmann8936
@chrisrautmann8936 4 жыл бұрын
The alternative is F1- so expensive nobody but a couple of moneybags can race.
@jkokich
@jkokich 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@tomshiba51
@tomshiba51 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if car racing conducts steroid/enhancement testing on its drivers like they do to bicyclists? It almost seems that's the only thing left to complete the restrictions.
@kiplindsay8413
@kiplindsay8413 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, 1967, the greatest year for formula 1. We always watched Wild World of Sports to see the races. Dang, I'm getting old
@jennifersman7990
@jennifersman7990 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those were the days when ABC taped the race and showed it in prime time the same day. So you had to avoid any sports news all day! That could never be done today!
@donogoobo9992
@donogoobo9992 5 жыл бұрын
Parnelli had a valid point: "No one in USAC ever asked me one question about my experience in the car." Even the owner of the winning car admitted that the improvements were due more to the 4 wheel drive and not the power plant. It took years and some new blood, but USAC got kicked out of Indy. It was way over due. Re-airing of past Indy 500 races get bigger audiences than the live, new races get. What does that say?
@videojockeysword
@videojockeysword 5 жыл бұрын
...and we STILL don't have AWD in race cars (not even E-racers), even though we have them on the street....I DO NOT GET THAT. Give me an LMP1 Porsche 919 Evo...or the newest Ferrari SF90 Stradale!
@donogoobo9992
@donogoobo9992 5 жыл бұрын
@@videojockeysword All wheel drive is a killer in a street race because of the dust on the pavement. The guy with the 10 second Tesla would take their money every week. At the track, he was just average. Oh, and lastly: The all wheel drive Audi at Pikes Peak. It owned that race as did the 4wd Celica by Rod Millen. It stood for 14 years.
@davem5333
@davem5333 4 жыл бұрын
@@videojockeysword The United States Auto Club (USAC) the governing body for the IndyCar series banned AWD shortly after this. AWD was tried in other road racing classes without success. The handling advantage was offset by the weight and power loss.
@Patrick_B687-3
@Patrick_B687-3 4 жыл бұрын
That people love exciting new ideas, ingenuity, and variety. They also love it better when more people have a fighting chance to join in and race without the backing of one or more mega corporations. Spot on Sir.
@roamic
@roamic 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this is one of the most impressive cars of all time, to me. I don't know how effective it is, but I love the little air brake.
@user-cs3zs6jn1d
@user-cs3zs6jn1d 5 жыл бұрын
I like the pajamas the team was wearing. Where can I get me some of those?
@stephenslusser2895
@stephenslusser2895 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I want some STP jammies !
@chriskoop4888
@chriskoop4888 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing when I saw thier suits!
@joecummings9662
@joecummings9662 5 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment on the same thing
@JBofBrisbane
@JBofBrisbane 3 жыл бұрын
Just get some blue jimmijams and a pile of STP decals.
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 6 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness you posted this. I was only 2 years old when it happened but by the time I was 8 I had read everything I could find about it. Just... wow. And then the Lotus the next year also should have won. For shame neither one did but what a history. Look at those helmet and such.... wow . Safety, what? Just get in and git er done! Not quite as bad as the '50's but almost.
@callron1
@callron1 6 жыл бұрын
At the end of the 1967 season, STP Corp fought with the USAC Rules Committee regarding the banning of turbine engines. The result was that the rules were changed to reduce the turbine's power output by restricting the engine's "air intake", thereby allowing less oxygen in the combustion chamber, resulting in less power. The area for air intake was reduced from 21.9 to 15.9 sq., or about 27% less. So, for 1968, STP commissioned Lotus Cars to design a new, super light weight, 4 wheel drive chassis, while Pratt & Whitney reworked the restricted turbine engine to develop as much power as possible, even though it reduced reliability. The performance of the 1968 Lotus Turbines at the 500 and other races on the USAC Trail was revealing. The cars were usually fast, but never won a race due to chronic reliability problems. In spite of this, at the end of the 1968 season, USAC banned turbine engines, and 4 wheel drive, ending the potential of developing this combination into a winning effort.
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 6 жыл бұрын
Yup yup I followed the Trail and found that. Thanks for the reminders... I had known all of this as a child but forgot. The other sad days in racing included the Gruppe B tragedy and Michele Mouton's car fading so she didn't win the Championship. She was a bad Mo-Fo. There's a cool Audi ad with her and her daughter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJKbqJaeetCZfKM
@happyfox711
@happyfox711 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, the old piston engine makers were so scared they ran it off the track, sabotaged, and banned it ! In front of everybody, and nobody protested(except the team and Gordon Cooper)
@williamvolkmann8658
@williamvolkmann8658 5 жыл бұрын
you got that right and the 50mpg didnt help either
@davidbostock6776
@davidbostock6776 5 жыл бұрын
It's all fun and games until the same car wins every race, then it's business not engineering. Google - Mosler Consulier It's problem - too fast because it was a lot lighter.
@williamvolkmann8658
@williamvolkmann8658 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidbostock6776 ok i looked at it , now tell me what is the connection between the light weight sports car and the turbine getting 50mpg?
@davidbostock6776
@davidbostock6776 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamvolkmann8658 You lost me at Turbine getting 50 MPG. You tell me why morons expect an answer to their idiot questions.
@markdinkel9006
@markdinkel9006 5 жыл бұрын
pisses me off too
@ckelley63
@ckelley63 5 жыл бұрын
Parnelli was like they brought knives to a gun fight!!
@billyost1479
@billyost1479 5 жыл бұрын
As an helicopter turbine engine mechanic... I am not surprised the turbine engine was banned. Racing piston engines are heavy and require top fuel to operate above specs to gain the required hp (in my view, that's cheating). Turbine engines, on the other hand run on at the very least... kerosene... or jp fuel, neither of which are designer fuels and much cheaper than top fuel. The turbine engine is light yet produces much more hp than an piston engine of the same weight. Light, very high torque and very high hp. Yep, not surprised it was banned. Ban that which is a real work of art. Go figure!
@12121149
@12121149 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the classic STP overalls,just sayin'
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 5 жыл бұрын
They were known as "STP Pajamas" for a reason. Weird.
@bryantcurtis2665
@bryantcurtis2665 4 жыл бұрын
I’d like to get me some STP pajamas
@tomshiba51
@tomshiba51 6 жыл бұрын
Andy Granatelli was abiding by the rules as they were at the time. He even mentioned that his innovation would not have been significantly restricted, then banned, had the car not performed as well as it did. Indy has hosted many cars that were peculiar to the pack, but the turbine is one of the few that really shook up the competition and began the trend of narrowing the parameters on vehicle design to what we deal with today; uniformity.
@jkokich
@jkokich 4 жыл бұрын
tomshiba51 wouldn’t it be fascinating to have a series where the only regs were engine size and vehicle weight?
@VampireYoshi
@VampireYoshi Жыл бұрын
It was called the Championship-class, under the AAA Contest Board, and it endured for as long as AAA sanctioned motorsports.
@frankesposito2182
@frankesposito2182 15 күн бұрын
This was the last of the nice looking Formula cars 🏎
@Gator_Bait_Motorsports
@Gator_Bait_Motorsports 4 жыл бұрын
I was there in 1967 in turn four when it came coasting by...I was so disappointed it lost. He made it look so easy. It was so quiet as it passed by....great memories. :-)
@kimharbison5277
@kimharbison5277 6 жыл бұрын
USAC didn't necessarily make the decision to ban the turbine, they caved to pressure from Ford Motor Company. Ford had too much money invested to let the some upstart like Andy Granatelli and his turbine steal their thunder. It's sad, I wasn't there in 1967, but I was in 1968. The wedge turbines were amazing to see AND hear.
@happyfox711
@happyfox711 5 жыл бұрын
I belive so. It would mean a change to the whole industry and billions of r&d change of setup in the factories, to get the capability of producing turbine engines. They oppose wildly and desperatly any change that treathens their already working scheme. Look at the history of the electric car too - now finally after they held it back for 100 years +
@Mikey300
@Mikey300 5 жыл бұрын
Kim Harbison I have a Ford fan all my life, but I agree with you that FoMoCo must have seen the investment in their four-cam about to be eclipsed by the turbines, and put the squeeze on USAC. Ford was no longer afraid of Drake’s Offy, but Pratt & Whitney was another story.
@pauldavis22
@pauldavis22 5 жыл бұрын
Upstart!!!!???? Andy had been racing at Indy for 30 yrs. before they built the turbine. Find a copy of his book They Call Me Mister 500.
@williamvolkmann8658
@williamvolkmann8658 5 жыл бұрын
wedge turbines? really //common
@russellhueners8499
@russellhueners8499 5 жыл бұрын
What memories, I was 11 years old, out at the lake camping with family, had a portable radio, tin cans and foil to pick up the race , I got the station yelling, uncle Don uncle Don I got the Indy, those offys were running great, could not hear the turbine car, great play by play, never forget Diamond Lake Oregon, the fishing and Indy.
@jhonsiders6077
@jhonsiders6077 5 жыл бұрын
I was a teenager when it ran and it really ran off with the race was watching it on TV in Corydon IN my father was a aircraft engineer and said this will be the future ! but as most people think it was banned because every other team would have to spend millions just to keep up with it ! I always wondered if Chrysler had put the turbine car in full production if NASCAR would have been forced to allow it ??
@williamvolkmann8658
@williamvolkmann8658 5 жыл бұрын
the chrysler of 1963 had a turbine car and the heat was un real ford had some to all were to hot
@larrysouthern5098
@larrysouthern5098 11 ай бұрын
I loved this car...❤
@Jackc8201
@Jackc8201 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video. I never knew about that car (I was 3 at the time) but it was great seeing it race now.
@michaelbledsoe1060
@michaelbledsoe1060 4 жыл бұрын
Rain came along and stopped the race that day, the race was finished the next day. Along with the turbine engine, the car had innovative all wheel drive too. Parnellie could drive any groove he wanted with that car. We were in the fourth turn vista for the race that year. Very disappointed when the gear box failed.
@williamcharles9480
@williamcharles9480 5 жыл бұрын
I'm still pissed off at USAC's decision to kill the turbine engine by excessively limiting the intake air to the engine. I still haven't heard a good reason why the decision was made. Damn politics.
@Mr39036ce
@Mr39036ce 5 жыл бұрын
Was Chevy running an engine at the time? Around this time NHRA & NASCAR we're factoring and otherwise limiting Chrysler and Ford because of the 426 Hemi and 427 boss and cammer engines. Chevy had a hand in ALL of that. Never understood why they wouldn't just step up their engines? God knows the BBChevy could have competed to to toe with some help.
@williamvolkmann8658
@williamvolkmann8658 5 жыл бұрын
lobbiest groups
@williamvolkmann8658
@williamvolkmann8658 5 жыл бұрын
@silverbird58 an other great in the racing field is Andy Granatelli his ideas were cutting edge as well / they are taken for granted / the squeaky wheel and all that
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 жыл бұрын
Turbine engines are very expensive and not very economical for a street car .. Ford had a couple about 1964 or so . It could melt the grill of the car behind it at a red light that is if any even had a plastic grill in 1964..
@williamvolkmann8658
@williamvolkmann8658 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikeskidmore6754 what do you think of the chrysler project turbine cars they built for the auto show
@notu9462
@notu9462 6 жыл бұрын
Haters of a new ass kicking style, is nothing new.
@Musique61414
@Musique61414 5 жыл бұрын
Look at Tesla.
@briannotafan3368
@briannotafan3368 5 жыл бұрын
what ever happend to who builds the fastest car wins
@alflurin
@alflurin 5 жыл бұрын
@@briannotafan3368 Indeed. I was homologated to run so why only say it can't run after having met success.
@slome815
@slome815 5 жыл бұрын
@@briannotafan3368 Because then the richest team wins. You need rules in these kind of races.
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 5 жыл бұрын
@ not u - Talking about Draymond Green? video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yset_widemail_chr_win&p=Drayvon+Green+kick#action=view&id=2&vid=fd881b184fa4c03ca467daeb090adb77
@rattmann36863
@rattmann36863 5 жыл бұрын
They went to the front, and just kept pulling away. They were something to watch.
@markdinkel9006
@markdinkel9006 5 жыл бұрын
Mario gave him the bird as Parnelli passed him on the backstretch.
@joekurtz8303
@joekurtz8303 4 жыл бұрын
Alot of print ads featured this car. Even STP decals were around with this,( rare) Graneteli was a great spokesperson for the brand. The other engine ban came yrs later w Penske' stock block Mercedes that Emerson drove ( dominated the field) back in the 80's. ( eng. Displacement dispute)
@chrismoody1342
@chrismoody1342 5 жыл бұрын
I was 12 yrs old and listening to the broadcast scrubbing the bottom of the family pool. I remember how disappointed I was with him not finishing the race.
@DSC800
@DSC800 4 жыл бұрын
Nice antique GoPro over the cockpit.
@danenglehardt2056
@danenglehardt2056 3 жыл бұрын
My dad was there he told me it was a beautiful car. My dad was a Big time Jones fan along with Foyt. Bittersweet he said when the Wooosh mobile failed on a 6 dollar bearing and opened the door for AJ Foyt to the victory.
@localcrew
@localcrew 6 жыл бұрын
The other drivers called it the "Whooshmobile" 'cause it just went "Whoosh" when it passed 'em up. True story.
@randallhaney7909
@randallhaney7909 3 ай бұрын
What I remember most about the STP Turbine powered race cars, Is; there were 2 second generation STP Turbine cars. And Mario Andretti Was the driver of the #1 car. And in a single race he crashed his #1 car. Then Mario relived/took the #2 car from the assigned driver. And promptly crashed it into "Whoosh" the original STP Turbine powered race car. That was also on the track during that race. There by destroying all; 3 of the STP Turbine powered race cars in one single race. And that was basically the end of the STP Turbine powered race cars.
@Musique61414
@Musique61414 5 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome time.
@olspanner
@olspanner 5 жыл бұрын
I watched that race when it was shown live on Australian TV [ for that year,1967, only ]
@briannotafan3368
@briannotafan3368 5 жыл бұрын
my friends and i would gather around his 25" tv to watch the race we were11 at the time the day before we would have our 50 lap bike race around the block after we raced our hot wheels sizzler 500 race man i wanna be a nerdy kid again of corse we were the first to have the model of the stp turbin car my buddy sent his to granatelli and mario andetti autographed the box for him
@mikeflippin5568
@mikeflippin5568 5 жыл бұрын
@8:05 Coop was prophetic with his words. He nailed it.
@geodog6854
@geodog6854 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone who loved racing in the US hated USAC. Their mismanagement turned the Indy 500 from a national event to just another race.
@bryanst.martin7134
@bryanst.martin7134 5 жыл бұрын
I had a step father who drove the Turbine McLaren. Said it ran great but sucked up all the debris on the track, and roasted radiators of close following cars. His normal tracks were SCCA and NASCAR. Drove a '67 Shelby GT 350 at Daytona.
@robertjpatterson57
@robertjpatterson57 5 жыл бұрын
Actually The U.S Auto club backed off of the ban. In 1968 there were 3 turbine powered cars entered by Andy Granatelli and STP. Two of them qualified on the front row. Of the 3 two broke and one crashed. They were built by Lotus and were faster than the piston-engine cars. USAC reduced the air intake on the turbines but they were still fast with one of them leading late in the race when it broke. After the 68 race the rules were changed again to further reduce the air intake. The engine was basically killed by the rules
@dzelpwr
@dzelpwr 5 жыл бұрын
@Flame Resistant Troll And the cars racing there now are basically piston engined upside down aircraft with their wings, sooooo....
@DionBaker
@DionBaker Жыл бұрын
I want some STP coveralls! Wish I still had my Hot Wheels turbine Indy car...
@gresvig2507
@gresvig2507 5 жыл бұрын
Sad thing is that there was a real chance there to improve the breed, or at least create a turbine formula that could provide exciting and fast racing that teams could actually afford and give good competition, unlike the hideously expensive drivetrains that would come. I'd love to see a race series now with, say, a sealed and approved 1-200K reliable helicopter turbine that everyone could run and use their budgets on chassi/tire/etc tech and transportinstead of worrying about ten million dollar engines.
@johnorabone6112
@johnorabone6112 5 жыл бұрын
WAS AN INCREDIBLE CAR. WOULD HAVE DOMINATED IF THEY WEREN'T OUTLAWED. GRANATELLI WAS A GREAT RACE CAR BUILDER. I REMEMBER THE INDY RACE. THE CARS WERE AS SMOOTH AS SILK
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 5 жыл бұрын
Only time "Mister 500" won the race was with a car designed by someone else. A Dan Gurney Coyote with an Indy Ford engine.
@anthonyxuereb792
@anthonyxuereb792 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing the turbine car amongst the ICE cars and the ease with which it devoured them was akin to a MiG-15 joining a gaggle of P51 Mustangs and Thunderbolts. I say MiG because the competitors saw him more of a foe than a friend.
@trade0714
@trade0714 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, the good ol' days when Indy racing was still exciting.
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 5 жыл бұрын
Growing up I loved the Indy 500...now it's just another crappy spec car race series.
@RADThird1
@RADThird1 5 жыл бұрын
The 60's were the glory years at Indy. So much innovation. Builders tried all sorts of things. Made it interesting to watch. Same with NASCAR, when the factories came up with the Super Bird and the Ford 427 "cammer" . Yeah it's pretty unwatchable these days.
@stevefowler2112
@stevefowler2112 5 жыл бұрын
@@RADThird1Yeah, that is the word...unwatchable.
@mikebunner3498
@mikebunner3498 Жыл бұрын
I remember this car and STP. It was something new and different. This might NOT sit well with some people..... Some people must have their way or they will have a fit, like a toddler. Childish....!!!!! A beautiful car...!!!!!
@tonyengland9744
@tonyengland9744 4 жыл бұрын
Automatic, all wheel drive,air break,off set driver compartment,turbine. Wow could have been awesome for future racing.
@SpaNT650
@SpaNT650 6 ай бұрын
Can we bring back the STP pajamas?
@catjudo1
@catjudo1 5 жыл бұрын
Gordon Cooper was spot on.
@ninthundertow
@ninthundertow 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying it was wrong or bad. If anything I'm very impressed with the innovation with this car. Yet I am glad racing has stuck with regular engines. Nothing beats the sound of say a v10 f1 car flying by.
@mercoid
@mercoid 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I obtain such STP pajamas as these men so proudly wear? ….I need to know!
@patreilly6826
@patreilly6826 4 жыл бұрын
To get the rest of the story Read "They call me Mister 500" by Andy Granatelli. The turbine car came back with a new design for three other turbine cars.
@dhart8451
@dhart8451 6 жыл бұрын
Saw him race the turbine at the Milwaukee Mile, had the same outcome. Leading near the end of the race and the car quit on him. I'm sure if there were 2 turbine cars running at the same time or they switched drivers. Joe Leonard was the other driver.
@shamus4427
@shamus4427 5 жыл бұрын
USAC killed USAC with this kind of politics.....
@happyfox711
@happyfox711 5 жыл бұрын
..think I heard Ford calling those guys - "careful, you might have an accident..."
@ddfoye
@ddfoye 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this.
@mqbitsko25
@mqbitsko25 6 жыл бұрын
I like the old school GoPro
@kl_trailhawk3320
@kl_trailhawk3320 5 жыл бұрын
Stopwatch, not camera.
@budmiller3823
@budmiller3823 5 жыл бұрын
Love those STP onesies
@TheChitownpete
@TheChitownpete 5 жыл бұрын
They should've let it compete. If it needs restrictors to be fair than so be it. In a few years everyone would havethem and it wouldn't matter.
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 5 жыл бұрын
It was later revealed that reason for the bearing failure--the transmission input-shaft bearing--was due to the design of the mating between the engine and the transmission didn't incorporate a bellhousing, which anyone whom built cars woth manual transmissions for use in performance or severe-duty arenas could tell you would've maintained a proper alignment of the transmission input-shaft... which if not done would profoundly effect (shorten) the life of all components involved. Also, I believe that like when a 1st-gen Chrysler Hemi was built and tested for proposal of use in IndyCar racing, the turbine-powered racer was quashed due to vested interest. I've seen it in IndyCar, Formula-1 and in NASCAR: Anything that gives a clear, fault-free advantage that also advances the sport technologically gets fought against, then disallowed--one way or another!😡
@williamvolkmann8658
@williamvolkmann8658 5 жыл бұрын
there was not much testing in those days
@johngalt7313
@johngalt7313 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. My father entered an upgraded electric Zagato Elcar in the local SCCA competition in 1976 and was doing well, but he stopped to back up off a cone. Those in charge changed the rules to exclude electrics before the next meet.
@rickpriest1961
@rickpriest1961 5 жыл бұрын
In the early 2000's, there was a retired machinist who hung out at Moose #500. Racers congregate. He was concerned about cooling that bearing. Requested to put an oil lubricating port to it. He was denied. He was not a BS'er. He knew his stuff.
@williamvolkmann8658
@williamvolkmann8658 5 жыл бұрын
iv'e also seen the flex plate on autos crack around the crank on oem equipt in pass cars (500mi)
@martinfilardi2614
@martinfilardi2614 4 жыл бұрын
Andy Granatelli was a genius at marketing. Love the 67. Camaro pace car. Where can I get those STP PJs for my wife and I?
@MartinHarvey
@MartinHarvey 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't it more correctly a turbine car?
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 5 жыл бұрын
It's a gas turbine, or more accurately, a turbo-shaft engine. This is what powers modern helicopters. I recall Granatelli used a stationary propulsion unit for his car. Very reliable but not ideal for automotive use. Did not respond to throttle input well.
@vinodude1
@vinodude1 5 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@gasfiltered
@gasfiltered 4 жыл бұрын
I'm that time, the terms were more or less interchangeable. We still use the term "turboprop" to describe a turbine-engined propellor-driven air craft; turbojet and turbofan being the proper terms for what most people simply call a jet engine. Turbo chargers used on piston engines are 2/3 of a turbine engine, containing a compressor and a turbine, the only difference being the manner in which the fuel is combusted.
@toastnjam7384
@toastnjam7384 3 жыл бұрын
The high school I went to in the 1960's had a big car culture which was divided into two camps, Ford and Chevy. One thing they agreed on was their dislike of a turbine car and the thought of a turbine car at the Indy 500 was sacrilege. If it wasn't piston powered it was worthless. I myself like the idea of a turbine car.
@scottspy
@scottspy 4 жыл бұрын
Fancy duds for the STP pitcrew!
@daleolson3506
@daleolson3506 6 жыл бұрын
They have weird stp pajamas
@M.R.A.11811
@M.R.A.11811 5 жыл бұрын
Dale olson indeed
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 жыл бұрын
It was not a Turbo Engine it was a Turbine engine.. They did not sand bag enough .. They said the Turbine qualified using it standard fuel not Nitro .. That Standard fuel would be Kerosene.. or Jet fuel which is a high grade of Kerosene
@duncandmcgrath6290
@duncandmcgrath6290 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Skidmore I work on aircraft for a living and I’ll bet you do too. I constantly get asked if jet fuel will make my -- go faster .... then I just point at a kerosene lantern
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 жыл бұрын
@@duncandmcgrath6290 No I just know different fuels .. Tractor pulls for one thing.. I just watched a 1965 Indy video they used Nitro Methanol in qualify8ing but not in the race.. Indy 500 has allowed 200 gallons of Methanol for many years but now days they use Ethanol ..
@ThePostal67
@ThePostal67 5 жыл бұрын
Trying to educate losers? HAHA. You know and I know that there are many sources of fuel. Even Electric if they ever get the batteries so last much longer. Having a Prius, (can't afford a Tesla) I know how fast off the line it is, most cars stare have my taillights wondering what the hell just happened.
@ThePostal67
@ThePostal67 5 жыл бұрын
Trying to educate losers? HAHA. You know and I know that there are many sources of fuel. Even Electric if they ever get the batteries so last much longer. Having a Prius, (can't afford a Tesla) I know how fast off the line it is, most cars stare have my taillights wondering what the hell just happened.
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThePostal67 with race cars they could change the battery pack in the middle of the race.. If that's what they really desired to do .. EJ Potter made a very fast drag car 4 wheel drive in late '60's early '70's He ran it very fast at the drag strip but he had to lay down cables and used a 1,700 Cubic inch Allison V-12 engine WWII Surplus Military Generator ..
@rickszabo4312
@rickszabo4312 4 жыл бұрын
I think that turbine engine ended up installed in a 1980 vette which was street driven.
@PeterMayer
@PeterMayer 5 жыл бұрын
Is the announcer calling it the turbo car?
@LadyAnuB
@LadyAnuB 5 жыл бұрын
What becomes the Indy 500 if this ban had not happened? How well can this car design be adapted to ground effects or does a different design emerge? Does this engine remain an Indy-only thing or can it be an effective one on speedways and superspeedways? Is this engine one that can run on road courses? Thanks to USAC, none of these questions could have been asked nor answered.
@wilburshaw9330
@wilburshaw9330 2 жыл бұрын
This car is now owned by the Smithsonian. Pretty important piece of History!
@rogerdelillo2394
@rogerdelillo2394 4 ай бұрын
Hey Indy bring baclk experimental cars
@johnjones5354
@johnjones5354 5 жыл бұрын
This would lead one to believe that the turbine cars were outlawed immediately. That is not true. Three turbine powered cars competed in the 1968 Indianapolis 500, finishing in positions 12 (Joe Leonard) 13 (Art Pollard) and 19 (Graham Hill). A fourth turbine car was entered in the race, but driver Mike Spence was fatally injured in a practice accident, shortly after setting the fastest lap of the month. After 1968, USAC once again limited the intake area of the turbine engines, rendering them to slow to compete.
4 жыл бұрын
*too slow, not to slow
@richardbullwood5941
@richardbullwood5941 Жыл бұрын
In addition to killing this idea because of its Innovation and threat to piston type engines, they also had no problem killing piston engines that were simply too good, such as the Offenhauser turbo. The track has been encouraging Innovation for about half of its existence, and discouraging it the other half
@vinewood8295
@vinewood8295 6 жыл бұрын
People always talk about things they would change if they could go back in time, myself I would make sure this car won that race then I would go to 1987 & make sure Mario's car didn't fail him.
@MrsOliva
@MrsOliva 2 жыл бұрын
Я увидела этот болид на странице журнала Playboy.
@spikey2740
@spikey2740 5 жыл бұрын
That was when USAC got another name - USUC.
@williamjordan5554
@williamjordan5554 5 жыл бұрын
That team would win Indy 2 years later.
@thomasmcalear8673
@thomasmcalear8673 2 жыл бұрын
THE ENTIRE CREW LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE ALL WEARING STP PAJAMAS !!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@adamUDavies
@adamUDavies 4 жыл бұрын
Wait and see what happens now that Roger Penske is owner of Indianapolis speedway 🤔🙄
@milburnhornback6921
@milburnhornback6921 5 жыл бұрын
So how long until we see both diesels and turbines running in the brickyard again?
@turdferguson74
@turdferguson74 5 жыл бұрын
Is the pit crew wearing pajamas?
@williamvolkmann8658
@williamvolkmann8658 5 жыл бұрын
yes its a sleeper race
@SAOProductions1955
@SAOProductions1955 3 жыл бұрын
The real story that year was getting the entire pit-crew to agree to wear those pajama's plastered with the STP stickers.
@jennifersman7990
@jennifersman7990 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, back then at Indianapolis you spelled God with the letters STP and Andy Granatelli was like Casey Stengel so his crews would gladly do anything for him
@GianfrancoFronzi
@GianfrancoFronzi 5 жыл бұрын
The bearing that failed looked like it was not the type you would use in a high heat and high pressure as in the turbine. The bearing must be a thrust type and receive a lot of cool oil to do its job, I think they are doing that nowadays ?
@callron1
@callron1 5 жыл бұрын
The bearing failure was in the transmission, not the turbine engine.
@GianfrancoFronzi
@GianfrancoFronzi 5 жыл бұрын
@@callron1 The intense heat and pressure caused the bearing which had no place being in a turbo.
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 5 жыл бұрын
It was not the first 4 wheel drive car FWD entered 3 or 4 years and was winning until they had a small mechanical issue too
@jimarcher5255
@jimarcher5255 4 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Ruby from Wichita Falls Tx was a driver of one of Granatelli’s 4 fWD cars at Indie. Fast, innovative,but broke down in races
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimarcher5255 Seems I heard the Whooshmobile would have won Indy but some $7.00 part broke near the end of the race . just bad luck ..
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 3 жыл бұрын
Narrator is wrong...not a turbo , a TURBINE !
@fw1421
@fw1421 4 жыл бұрын
Drives me nuts when journalists get things wrong. It’s Turbine,not Turbo!
@briannotafan3368
@briannotafan3368 4 жыл бұрын
makes me realize how old i am
@r.b.holmes2779
@r.b.holmes2779 3 жыл бұрын
Is this in Novi Mi. ?
@callron1
@callron1 3 жыл бұрын
No, this isn't a Novi powered racer. This is the 1967 STP Turbine engine powered car. It is in the Smithsonian Museum, Washington, DC
@billville111
@billville111 5 жыл бұрын
Turbines ruined unlimited hydroplane racing, and I'm glad Indy is still a piston engine event
@joecummings9662
@joecummings9662 5 жыл бұрын
What is it called a turbo car I thought it was a turbin
@Orbit_Corona
@Orbit_Corona 6 жыл бұрын
That is one of the coolest cars ever made. I wish they didn't ban it though.
@bretz9276
@bretz9276 3 жыл бұрын
Stp turbo?
@mqbitsko25
@mqbitsko25 4 жыл бұрын
Banned diesels too. Now all the cars are identical. Boring. I've long since lost interest.
@josephhurdman5588
@josephhurdman5588 4 жыл бұрын
They used to run diesels at Indy - when?
@fw1421
@fw1421 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder where this car is today? I was at the IMS museum in 2014 and it wasn’t there,must be in private hands.🤔🤔🤔
@callron1
@callron1 5 жыл бұрын
It was donated to the Smithonion Museum and they either display it or loan it out to other museums.
@johnxdjx5079
@johnxdjx5079 4 жыл бұрын
Cool
@damiandelapp5490
@damiandelapp5490 4 жыл бұрын
4WD? Well there you go!
@williamjordan5554
@williamjordan5554 5 жыл бұрын
Nice pajamas at 3:13
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