Calls between two accused on the day of Meyiwa murder

Legal teams continue to connect the calls in the Senzo Meyiwa murder trial. On Monday, data analyst, Gideon Gouws, revealed several calls between two of the accused on the day of the murder. eNCA's managing editor, John Bailey, weighs in on the case.
Watch the full interview here: www.enca.com/v...

[@elizabethmakaleng267]

Thanks, vodacom must come with the voice record and call record for Kelly calling Chicco and Tumelo calling the Meyiwa family.

[@Mlambo9432]

What about the one of Kelly and No. 5

[@ntokozomkhwanazi6118]

We need all of that to be presented to us...and when Tumelo called that man (I forgot his name)telling him that uSenzo has been accidentally killed by Longwe so that it can be proven that that call had never been made.

[@lindabenedictmdlalose8530]

What is this guy talking about? Is he follwing evidence or what?

[@NomavusoMakinyane]

Nope,he is a joke.

[@alexsiboho1268]

exactly this guy is not watching what we are watching real

[@jodasaint8198]

This guy is lost.

[@jodasaint8198]

He clearly doesn't watch this case.

[@siphonengu5436]

Nyaope imphethe

[@siphonengu5436]

If i may ask a stupid question. Why were they calling each if they were already together as per Zungu

[@lufunonemakonde3993]

Zungu saw them after they committed the murder.

[@lynettebarrenton]

EXACTLY

[@siphonengu5436]

@@lufunonemakonde3993 no he saw them before

[@siphonengu5436]

@@lufunonemakonde3993 Go back and listen to his testimony it was around September

[@nombuzoedithmahlangu3755]

​@@lufunonemakonde3993suthetha into engekhoyo ZUNGU UTHI ubabone before bephuma baphinda babuya suxoka please

[@Mangamahle8]

It is insane to hear an old man believing lies with so much confidence, it is really a shame

[@NomavusoMakinyane]

True,with so much confidence. Where is his common sense 🤔. Did he try to do his own investigation first?

[@zuzadeyi4105]

If you put 10 judges laphayana.. They'll tell you that the evidence presented is enough to convict these criminals.. Mncube short Senzo and Kelly must come forward.. It's so mind boggling that you'd defend criminals who confessed to killing Senzo.. In your clear state of mind.. Do you think so much evidence could be cooked.. Hell.. Tumelo and Zandi even pointed Ntanzi..

[@Mangamahle8]

I'm sure after today's proceedings he will change his mind because it's clear that the police used Ntanzis phone

[@oumamnisi9520]

Yooo shame this guy 😂😂the whole MD my gosh

[@carolinesimayile952]

and he believes all this shit as old as he is, yet even his children sees this nonsense

[@tebogoletsike355]

Other policy did their job well..accused number 3 was arrested for cliveland caseand the 205 are from that case...and accuse 5 was arrested in 2018 and the 205 are from that case,not the senzo's case,that is why advocate Mnisi said they cut and paste,that means they use other people's work,not for their case.

[@bongamendu3510]

Please interview John again. We want his opinion on todays proceedings

[@MduduziSithole]

This manager is useless fire him Enca

[@thubelihlesamkelo2266]

Which evidence is he talking about because the cellphone records says number 3 was nowhere near the scene

[@marieklaaste9699]

Its cooked dont tell lies. Go get CHICCO and kelly.

[@nkalakathabeybuza]

what about the DNA

[@JohnCebekhulu-hz2yp]

This guy hasn't been following the case

[@nkosanantombela3146]

This analyst is bonkers, Adv Mngomezulu proved yesterday in court that accused no 3 was not at Vosloorus on the 26 & 27 October 2014.

[@prudencemmola5690]

Wait for cross examination and stop talking nonsense

[@Lala97]

Absolute nonsense...he clearly doesn't follow this case since day one

[@zuzadeyi4105]

His right.. It's pretty clear.. The evidence presented is pointing firmly to them.. Well done Gininda and your team

[@peggymbata332]

I think. Whoever you are you dont know what you are talking about. Accused number 3 according to the cellphone analysis from 1704 t1on the 26th October 2014 he wás away with his cellphone from the venue of the incident till 0830 0n the 27 October 2014 , the reading shows that he was in Johannesburg the whole time.

[@zonkenzimande4566]

No evidence lies . u can talk a and analyse nonsense

[@itumelengramosedi5725]

We watch and listen to different analysis on social media. It's time for your mainstream media to become fair in your reporting and analysis. Tik Tok live analysis by both legal and data analysts gives more insight than what you're giving. My observations🤟🏽

[@juniormaila6712]

Is like this journalist guy he's bias he's crook he only reports what makes him feel better. There's no case here. As much as u claim to be like disgrace judge tells us who is the owner of the hat cs doesn't belong to the accused. Don't come here n think we are idiots idiots

[@skhululimanzini]

Why bringing this after 10 years if it was the evidence for state why now it was cooking we see where they come from and where they are going.There were no intruders in that house honestly speaking

[@hgfku-tn6hb]

This case has been complicated by the police from the beginning. When you find suspicious items in my yard, I'm the first one to be arrested

[@marieklaaste9699]

Yoh for this hungry kallit

[@lettyjanemahlangu1152]

What is he saying???, very suspicious. Are you following the same case as all of us? Oh my wordddd eNCA, I rest my case

[@Userde989]

Lies ,fuseki wena Editor

[@marieklaaste9699]

How can he broadcast that on national tv. Is he not ashame off himself. Aai makallit sell outs yooo

[@marieklaaste9699]

Why did you not safe money for your oldage now u ate blood money. You were in tavern with rata drinking your live stock away. Now rich ppl use ppl lik u and rata drunkards

[@lettiemobe2475]

THIS IS UNFAIR TRIAL PERIOD

[@tshedisotrevor6108]

Can this guy stick to being a a manager and leave court issues alone,the latter doesn’t even know what he is on about.

[@DerickSAMazibuko]

You are very good at misleading people. The evidence provided in court does not put the accused at the crime scene. In fact, you seem to be following a different Senzo Meyiwa trial

[@phumlanimbabane9528]

What evidence is guy talking about? Is he following the trial?

[@tmz534]

Why is the other docket ignored

[@Eazzy...G-hp9hs]

This man is talking nonsense mxm

[@RantshaThetane-px4xp]

One confession said the 5 accused where at the hostel before dey want to kill Senzo ....so how would dey call each while dey r together

[@MncedisiGebashe]

they were together bcos they were intruders now they are calling each other bcos they are contact killers izinkabi

[@modiredipelekekae6034]

What's the credibility of the vodacom witness

[@lawrencemosala7995]

no man u are lost

[@ndumisomajola8043]

This guy's lost , wat is he analyzing coz he dznt understand a thing.....the cell numbers depicted here nd linked to b in Voslorous on dat day DO NOT belong to th accused.... rather to other persons whom r not amongst th accused. Wat r u talkng abt ?

[@deviabdulkadir553]

If someone killed my baby dad I will act I will climb the highest mountain to bring the culprit to books. I never see anything like this Mr senzo case. Would judge ratha has no respect for the defence, he only has respect for bayloi. Something does not fit the puzzle in Mr meyiwa case. Remember I myself and sa, and other countries are watching our king goal keeper trial. This judge got no respect for a women in his court room he always rude to the female attorney. He wants to know if she visits the tavern? I never see any judge behave like this. Please do not vote ANC please. Our country is going down from 2014 this case is going on while the meyiwa family is suffering with somuch pain. I plead with judge malombo to have baloi and ratha removed from this case. So we will see the meyiwa family he justice.

[@thabangntintili1076]

You no nothing what you talking about just go back and follow it

[@marieklaaste9699]

You are stupid if u cant see the lies. Are u under chiccos spell

[@marieklaaste9699]

John bailey sound lik a tsotsi. He is one off those guys sell their souls for money. Pinki was also in scandal cooking

[@marieklaaste9699]

Yoh state say marko is the shooter. U talking nonsense wait for kelly and chicco than we talk. You broadcasters also baized

[@Bomoentertainment]

THIS GUY SAID NOTHING 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@oldmillinn6891]

Think he has been watching a different trial or just following instructions. SABC?

[@siphonengu5436]

I like it when the editor technology will paint a cear picture of what took place on the 26th. You spoke too soon editor before the whole story was unfolded. With due respect sir, technology has revealed that accused 3 was not in Vosloorus at the time of the shooting. What is your comment now, did he or did he not shoot Senzo . Maybe he is a sharp shooter who shot all the way from joburg and didn't even leave his DNA.

[@UnaMudau-n1x]

They're not guilty those accused

[@dannym7593]

Proove it, not conspiracy theories. These nkabis are guilty as charged and no any other explanation!

[@Shacks_za]

Maybe this analyst are watching something else 😔😔😔😔

[@mphoezekiel1044]

This guy is talking nonsense

[@deviabdulkadir553]

My question to the justice dept why they are making life so difficult? When Kelly and her family was in the house when Mr senzo was shot they know who killed Mr senzo so why play cat and mouse.

[@Kanu---004]

Who is this guy???

[@SonOfTheSoil834]

Everything with this thugs is cooked and is amazing how some people still blind to can even belive the story of the Kelly’s hit men 🤦‍♂️I wish they rot in jail with their master mind ..

[@gabzen5927]

Concluding before holistic examination including cross examination by defense is wrong man

[@leevisiwogedi8677]

This guy in studio is bz lying to us why their not bring the sms

[@dipuotsolo1207]

This guy has been paid to come and lie 😅😅. He come with confused speach. Is better to keep quet

[@Retiredcheater]

Bring Elton not this nonsense.

[@WandileSimelane-bb6mh]

You are analysing nonsense

[@phumudzosambula4916]

He is talking rubbish

[@chukuannah3835]

Mxm please manh stop to waste time we are no longer senzo case jerr 😢 we is Elton hart is the best

[@softangler3040]

This guy is talking rubbish

[@JabsMotlokoa]

Uthini manimkhuza

[@collinsmasuku177]

lol guys you are in denial, the evidence is there but because you interested in your theories, once the vodacom employee comes you will see but again you will forever be in denial

[@dannym7593]

Say it again, these people are defenders of nkabis, no wonder why there is too much crime in SA.

[@juniormaila6712]

U come here n tells about calls fr 2018 you must tell us about calls prior 26 October 2014, n u must show us the msge whr Kelly asked Ntuli where are you, u r disgrace u must be ashamed if yourself

[@NtombiXimba]

Which case is he talking about? 😂 aybo we are watching this case but we don't know what Which evidence is he talking about

[@SibusisoShandu]

2day you guys a silent because it proved the Accused are innocent lol 😅

[@ThobileKetye]

Mnxim,Poor analysis by this guy,his views are Nul and void.rather interview my child not him,she is following this can,and she can see those Gus are innocent,why the occupants and drinkers are not called???

[@ntsepetshiu5273]

❤❤❤,The accused are just liars ...😂..They said they dont no each other, booooom....The cell phone records show something.. 😅

[@nkalakathabeybuza]

Mxm what a shame listening to such while i know what i know, whose fooling who?

[@talia7634]

ITS A LIE

[@deluxselepe6914]

The state must proof that this people killed senzo not that they communicated, what the case about, im yet to understand how are ghis people linked to the death of senzo

[@zuzadeyi4105]

It's a clear case

[@cascarmalatji5394]

Power of technology.

[@EdminBarlow-mx4du]

You don't know what you talking about go to the people in the house lot of people following this case get your facts straight bro

[@mlambo_designs9717]

Well I'll be damned my mind is changed now...these guys are indeed gulity because they called each other. Now i would just like to ask all my family and friends not to get arrested for anything because we will all be guilty cause we call each other constantly..coz clearly thats all it takes.

[@prospersibanda8526]

People say they saw accussed 1 and 2

[@mawandemafanya9924]

Yet they say accused 3 is the one who pulled the trigger.

[@Thobile067]

No vodacom will comes in..its cooked

[@MduduziZwane-su3th]

So

[@Chapwatiwedu]

Usesless analyst

[@MduduziSithole]

Unfolding doti uyanya wena manager

[@tmz534]

Cooked

[@philisiwemkhwanazi-xw7vu]

Aveninamanga mamenemene , lies😢

[@NicksonMkhala]

I need my data ba ck

[@DeanBrown-e6u]

Analyze analysis analytics analytical techniques....

[@IsobelleLane-u7w]

Thank you sir for the truth.we are tired of the nonsense that people talk.

[@jabubuthelezi4822]

I see the analysts have changed ,is it because the previous ones believe that the accused are innocent ?

[@tebogoletsike355]

Let us think for ourselves,don't depend fully on this people,u watched the case as well...why the phone record did not point out the hostel?the record of Kelly calling accuse 5?Even not forgetting the confession that Kelly call them,why not mentioning that?Why are they not talking about Kelly Khumalo and Zungu?what about the 205 of Kelly?don't forget he talked to accuse 5 ,2 and 1 about the hit.

[@siphonengu5436]

I wonder why these reporters are called analysts coz to me an analyst weighs everything in a holistic way . Looks at everything as presented before against what it is now . A good journalist is like a detective that interogate every statement given. These just listen and worse still they present a partial statement. Imagine one says number 5 accused admits that the number is his but does not go further to also explain that but 3 other numbers are mot his. What kind of journalism is this . Where is the independent thinking capacity of these journalists?

[@khoimkhwanazimusic3504]

Again all along Baloyi was denying having 205 back then in 2014 boom, has 205​@@tebogoletsike355

[@rofhiwamaemu4758]

This guy is talking rubbish

[@siphonengu5436]

Where did the 205s for 2014 resurrect from cause the state was adamant were destroyed and cannot be regenarated. Answer me NCA. Don't you something is fishy here.

[@ZemkorConsulting-ho4dv]

This evidence was requested long time ago, for Accussed no 5 years of estrocities, which he is serving countless lifetime in jail. during that cause when the police were looking for him or busy with his countless trials., thats how they got this infor. So it's cannot have been distroyed cos it was already under the police achieves. Police does not disroy evidence. I don't now cause they bought scanners worth millions which assist by scanning physical evidence and save it, to curb stealing of dockets. It's useless now to steal a police docket. crookes continue buying copies theough.

[@katlegophetwe6710]

They obtained the 205's in 2015 when accused number 3 was arrested for the Alexandra murder case.

[@ThobelaTW]

I think the State is misleading as there were no such and what interesting all the alleged communications are after the occurrence of the crcrime.

[@mhlonishwabiyase5532]

Rubbish reporting

[@lettiemobe2475]

Let that vodacom man give us Tumelo Madlala voice recorder the day when Senzo was shot,he must check time soon atfter they shot Senzo

[@zuzadeyi4105]

Lettie.. The case is very clear.. They murdered Meyiwa laba

[@thamisehunoe5091]

Mara this analysts ba re tlwaela waitse, imagine if we only depended on them to follow up on the case like in the previous years

[@HannikieMakhanye]

We hate this guy he doesn't understand this case that how did the go in to the cells with phones for 8 months this guy doesn't follow the case

[@BrianDlamini-nt1xu]

Senzo was killed 2014 cell phone are for 2018,does that make sense?

[@GwynnethSigupa]

Sensor was killed in 2014, siyaphila ku 2018,2020 it’s cooking 🙏 2:37

[@morrisonnyamana2116]

Dislike. Thumb down

[@Sifisomabanga]

where did you get this guy>? hes talking BS

[@mulalor318]

John Please stay in your lane bror, you talking nonsense

[@jeremiahSibanda]

He is drunk he is talking rabish

[@EugeneMkhize]

He doesn't know what he's talking lo

[@petroguilherme5549]

Question is ....why only now bring Vodacom to the stand ....loads of hours been wasted here I think

[@dikeledihlabangane3854]

Askr they were dealing with the admissibility of the statements.

[@bonganincedani2359]

This man is no analyst

[@Gaone2024]

When were the said calls made?

[@nosiphosibsngela1994]

We need the content of the said communication. If it’s not there 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@MduduziSithole]

Evidence of 2018 to 2021 uyanya manager

[@luckyramosedi3576]

What are you talking about sir

[@NicksonMkhala]

I need my data ba ck