I BOUGHT A (CAT N) FN2 TYPE R! Is It Better Than An EP3?

I BOUGHT A CAT N FN2 TYPE R! Is It Better Than An EP3?
Diary of a car trader - Episode 96
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[@CalvinsCarDiary]

WIN MY OLD METH INJECTED GOLF R HERE: www.planetofdreams.co.uk

[@lister817]

It's coming up error has the competition ended?

[@joshdeath2457]

Calvin please get it sorted, I won't be able to relax until I get one!

[@CalvinsCarDiary]

Josh De'Ath lol it’s ok you can relax. The website got overloaded with people and the payment company couldn’t deal with all the payments so I’ve had to upgrade my account and do a whole load of other stuff. I’m planning to relaunch it again in the next few days. I’ll let you’s know when it happens 👍

[@joshdeath2457]

@@CalvinsCarDiary my man, I know everyone says this but u really don't understand how much I feel like this is fate, I felt gutted standing in the rain at sharnbrook and the winner was announced, especially them unfortunately not there, but this time Calv I have so much faith it's gunna happen. But regardless of the outcome will always be a fan, enjoyed your content from day dot, massive respect for what you do! Hopefully get to chat with you properly when I collect the R! 🤯

[@robocop3961]

What shit click bait everybody knows the ep3 is better wtf

[@scottp4547]

Hmm. Normally up for the planet of dreams raffle, but don’t get this one, get the new owners to sell it themselves, £35,000 for a car that is special but gettin older and they won it 3 months ago with a engine like that just sat there, Think you shud do raffle for your own cars but doing it for other ppl I don’t like, owners just pure greedy, they won it off £25 a ticket I think they cud of sold it for £20 k and still been well happy And you shouldn’t win it in a raffle and then re raffle it that’s wrong in my eyes

[@ssilvaxxx22]

raffling ftw

[@theitems4242]

A few hours ago the available tickets was like 334, now at time of writing this its 346. You can see the available amount by putting quantity to 350 at checkout and it will say remaining amount left. The fact it changed like that makes me altogether put off, unless all those who had got tickets got refunds, or available amount has been altered.

[@scottp4547]

Aaron shudnt be doing it at all All for making money but he made his cut the first raffle, these new owners are perfectly capable of going on auto trader and putting a advert on for it,

[@ssilvaxxx22]

@@scottp4547 how do you know he is making money from it?

[@robocop3961]

Tell me about it they don’t give a flying fuck it’s all about the £££ and the shit click baiting content they put out. There not true petrol heads. I’m getting off this channel

[@danfn2r72]

I'm biased because I own an Fn2 and I love it but honestly after test driving an ep I'm so glad I bought my fn. Looks better, way nicer interior and so on. I like ep3's dont get me wrong and they are a fantastic car for what they are but i just prefer the fn :D

[@thatpersiandude7386]

fn2 is a better car than ep3 for sure... ive driven both. ep3 feels little more raw and nimble and thats about it, however fn2 has more feauters, its safer, much better interior, exterior still looks very modern, has stiffer chasie,better steering, shorter gears, and it feels more stable at higher speeds. its also little cheaper

[@hibbs79]

100% correct. Owned an EP3,. Own and adore a late fn2 with factory LSD.

[@80skid83]

Had both and both are great cars , but fn2 is on a different level tho

[@80skid83]

Fn2 are still looking nice and a decent one with low mileage are still going for top dollar

[@johncanavan4060]

Totally agree, went from EP to FN as well and still enjoying it

[@johncanavan4060]

@@hibbs79 is it standard on all models from 2010?

[@hornchurcheagle843]

I think you hit the nail on the head with regard to the comparison with the EP3. I own a FN2 M200 and have driven EP3s (I work at a Honda dealer) but when get asked which is better I say the same as you! It depends what you want in a car. Before I bought mine I was actually looking to buy an EP but saw mine for sale. Looking back at the time I was 36 years old and liked the idea of cruise control, xenon headlights, LSD, and auto wipers and headlights. Small things I know but it’s my daily. It does need more power and I do miss the torque of a charged car. Keep up the good work Calvin.

[@onamissionltd]

K20 not tuneable? hahahhahahahahahahahahahah

[@KiranPatel-fk1pg]

I think he means without forced induction

[@austincaley5007]

Fn2 has shorter gear ratios & slightly more torque.

[@k24nz25]

Austin Caley and it usually makes around 10hp more on dyno

[@emmadeeba2038]

It’s heavier and doesn’t have independent rear suspension

[@soto575]

@@emmadeeba2038 fn2 has more torque ?

[@TassieLorenzo]

These are the many other upgrades the FN2 also has: - Better flowing cylinder head than EP3 (the same RSP cylinder head as FD2 Type R) - Factory lightweight flywheel (same as FD2 Type R) - Much better steering geometry than EP3 - 60mm (2.3”) factory exhaust up from 55mm (2.1”) on EP3 - Alloy front control arms (steel on EP3) - Standard LSD on MY2009 versions (only on JDM version EP3) - Balance shafts in engine for less engine vibrations Not to mention all the convenience stuff like cruise control, auto headlights, auto wipers and so on.

[@TassieLorenzo]

@@soto575 Yeah, FN2 has the RSP intake manifold with long runners (almost like an Accord intake manifold) which increases mid-range torque... Albeit it's still a 2.0L Honda and still needs lots of revs to go anywhere in a hurry.

[@df9834]

Had both Calv. Personally preferred the fn2 . It felt much more planted on the road at higher speeds. And didn’t feel that much slower when driving it. All though it is. But fn2 really cool inside aswell.

[@cameronwhitham5158]

they are slower just fn2 comes with a 5.1 final drive to help it accelerate as quick as a ep3 but ep3 is quicker top end

[@terryjr9105]

This is my old car🤣🤣🤣

[@lukey3507]

Insurance full loss before you had it or after?

[@scottbailey276]

Just come across this video. This is my old car as well. Had it for 8 years 😃😃

[@lister817]

Fn2 is a top car funny enough I went from a 4.2v8 s4 to my fn2 and it was abit dull but when I modified it wow what a car. The crossover with a manifold and exhaust is very noticeable. Love it I'm converted to Honda.

[@cutdepiefails6596]

Fd2 oil pump will kill the dull already. That and a tune another car completely

[@AM-wt8qi]

My opinion as an Ep3 type r owner and never driving an FN2 is that it is same engine with a more refined body that makes it better as a daily driver but me personally prefer the rawness of an Ep3 especially one like mine that is modified to exaggerate the driving experience. Still great cars and no doubt can be modded to improve although looks wize Ep3 looks better in my opinion and then there is that issue of independent rear suspension which no doubt makes the Ep3 a better drivers car in the twisties . Its like Honda deliberately tried to tone down the car when they should have kept the ep3 chassis and ramped up the power like mapped cars are with an extra 50 hp or released a turbo or supercharged edition but their thinking was to keep it N/ A at the time as it is a unique selling point at the time even if it means less power. Only emissions forced Honda to go turbo

[@GirlsYouTube1991]

Had 2 ep3 and 1 fn2 both are amazing fn2 is underrated but both are different cars fn2 is more nice inside and more a daily

[@TAG247]

Cant get into Calvins vids, seems he rambles for the sake of it, to get the videos longer, for more engagement and to make more money off it.

[@marcusdarkwa2055]

These get some bad reviews I ran one and it was a genuine surprise how much I enjoyed it , just adding a intake makes it sound like a monster

[@Juniper458]

Love my ep3. Granted fn2's are better manufactured and have a lot more goodies to compensate for the weight. But I've just never really been a fan of the looks and the handling. Those are 2 things the ep3 has an edge on. I know which one I'd rather have lol

[@jeremynaude4218]

When I was buying my FN2 And asked the golden question of FN2 VS Ep3 the guy Who sold me the FN2 said it so simply but worked. He said to me "if you want a reliable daily car with all the creature comforts, A car that can go the track for a bit of fun on the weekends then go FN2. But if you want a track car thats road legal you get an EP3"

[@djbarnes51]

You're wrong on the tuning aspect bro as there are NA k20a2 with 400whp and over 1000whp with a turbo look up PFI,BOOSTED BOIZ.

[@gf845]

Got my latest FN2 Type R from here today…. Market strong for the earlier models right now, the FN2 is sure to follow, time to stock up.

[@jamstersmith4625]

You can turn the Vtec light on in the settings

[@MIK23458]

Talk about milking something for all it’s worth! A ‘raffled’ car is being ‘raffled’ again. 😂

[@ethandj123456789]

Well he gave it away. Then probably bought it back when they said they wanted to sell and paid less then 35k? Why wouldn't you 😂

[@dir06]

The best thing about that Civic type R? Is that Skoda Octavia Vrs in the background that you’d say you’ll do a video on

[@jackwalker5768]

Sack you're car wash guy is he is done out here 😂

[@gordonmccartney5648]

You look so uncomfortable in every car you drive

[@cutdepiefails6596]

Sc or turbo this, 2 din radio, lsd, brembo calipers, better (more comfy suspension) and this car will be bloody awesome for decades to come.

[@desicollector]

Love watching your videos mate. Your videos are so informative and very entertaining at the same time

[@theinvinciblev8709]

got a prem 06 ep3 its the best thing evaaaa

[@amirnaseer9860]

I reckon you could have ran a better draggy time if you stayed in second cus second lets you go till about 64mph. That way your in VTEC and dont lose time shifting into third. I haven't timed 60 yet but I'm pretty sure mine will do it sub 7 seconds

[@Nix_sound]

"I'm going to have to put some fuel in...cos I used up all the old fuel" LOL, ain't that the truth

[@ratbac1935]

Whats the handling like compared to an ep3? Thinking of buying one but have only had ep3's befor. Dont want to ve disappointed 😂

[@richardkellam5466]

Another quality video mate come across one of your videos and ended up subscribing and watching every video you made

[@alfiemcelhinney3649]

Bought one today...love it 👌🏽😊

[@manccarguy]

daniel mcelhinney Use Fuchs Titan Race Pro S 5w40

[@alfiemcelhinney3649]

Mancunian Gooner is it worth changing it now as it was serviced 1000 miles ago?

[@alfiemcelhinney3649]

Mancunian Gooner thank you👍🏼

[@manccarguy]

daniel mcelhinney Well it’s good even if you do it every 1000miles but I say do it every 3k-5k if you can afford it to keep it proper fresh. I try and do it every 6k due to funding but hopefully I will start doing every 3k. Mines done 152k they are very reliable redlined many times but I would say try not to go above 8k. Check oil level every 4 days or so always have. 1 litre top up in the boot ALWAYS. And join the FN2 group on Facebook and ask for advice on anything FN2 related there mate enjoy the car and stay safe mate.

[@lister817]

Get it mapped with a manifold makes it more brutal like the ep3 I have pop n bang on mine on a Na fn2 can turn off aswel

[@MrMorka39]

When people starting apologizing I switch video straight away.

[@wafty6435]

Arise, Sir Calvin!...... King of the wafflers! lol

[@JordzyBrev]

I own an fn2 absolutely love it, I think the ep3 gear box is better and it revs more then a fn2, as fn2 has a balance shaft, but imo fn2 steering ect js miles above the ep3 and much more comfortable to be in

[@andrewjohnson7960]

Whats the redline on a fn2 i own a mb6 only honda ive ever driven but the vtec feels so raw

[@lister817]

8700 my fn2 but it's got ecutec

[@barts3845]

Thanks for the reply Calvin, problem is i tried to buy tickets twice because i didn't go through. Can you stop one of the payments please mate.

[@alihus2087]

Waste of money don't bother 100 a ticket

[@dg115]

For what you can pay for one of these they are a bargain. Last of the naturally aspirated engine's. Get one in gt spec and your laughing. And if you drive it carefully you can get 40 mpg if needed.

[@amirnaseer9860]

I got one. 40mpg is a myth unless you drive 6 gear everywhere and stay on the motorway. Even there its pushing it. Normal driving I get 16-17 mpg but if I drive sensibly I can get 25 at most

[@dg115]

@@amirnaseer9860 I'd say you have a problem with yours then. 40 mpg is not a myth is just good driving. Even round town 30 mpg is possible. 16 17 mpg you must be ragging it all the time.

[@alexb1593]

I own an fn2, mapped with a decat, exhaust and intake so dunno if that makes a big difference. 40mpg is definitely not a myth and easily achievable on the motorway at 70ish, can even get 35mpg at 80. Normally get around 28-30 driving sensibly on different roads

[@AF-nf4yf]

Sooo how muchs ur commission from re-raffling the golf R?

[@barts3845]

Hi Calvin, i can't seem to complete buying any tickets, keeps saying payment error?

[@CalvinsCarDiary]

Richard Lansdown lol yea we basically shut down MasterCard 😂 Too much traffic in one hit. All orders are still going through, it just means the payment will get processed tomorrow instead. You’ll get a confirmation email once it’s gone through 👍

[@Apokalypze2077]

I'm going to getting an FN2 next year, I will come poke you first see if you got one or know of one thats spot on and standard (want to do my own mods)

[@danijel124]

Honda is on another level. Just compare this car with cars in the same price range. Its way better. Also skoda cars made in 2015 have plastics already sticking out and a lot of rust... Im never buying a different brand other than honda ;)

[@coastalrider1155]

How do I go about selling a car to your company I have a 2015 type r and an m3 e92

[@jackwalker5768]

Binca

[@coastalrider1155]

Cheers mate

[@FatherJack-b1u]

16.08 what you looking at Calv? Hope your missus isn't watching this! 🤣

[@k24nz25]

😏 Guys REMEMBER this : you can make the fn2 performance better than than ep3 with few basic mods BUT you Can’t make the ep3 safter, more modern , and have features. I went from a ep3 R to CW Fn2 R and have no regrets. Mine makes 251hp and im having way more fun than any fartbox gti owner lol

[@saudade2745]

In fairness, you can also make an ep3 just as quick with engine mods, and it is simply incorrect to state you couldn't make an ep3 safer or mechanically more modern.

[@bugz6234]

Any videos coming on that Subaru in the background Calvin?

[@CalvinsCarDiary]

Little C it sold straight away mate! So annoying cos I wanted to get out in that.

[@bugz6234]

Calvin's Car Diary I bet mate, I’m not a huge scooby fan but would of liked to hear your thoughts on it and what it’s like compared to other similar cars you’ve had

[@Joolz1982]

New car equals New engine! Might wanna have a word with Subaru, have they not been using the same engine since day dot. Although a great engine by all accounts may need an update.

[@bradley6758]

Those boot lids are a bloody nightmare to work on

[@evolution0909]

Is CatN ok to buy?

[@officialpetrolheadtv]

In my opinion the ep3 is the better car I’m quite bias as I own one but they look better drive better and I personably think less is more and the interior is nicer in the ep3 premier edition with red recaros and red carpet. But anyways I’m a big type r fan and have love for them all 🚗💨🇯🇵

[@Tomyates91]

I was going to buy a FN2 a few months ago, Ended up buying a Seat Leon 1.2 TSI thinking I was being a bit more practical with 30 quickly closing in! Now I want a FN2 even more! 😂😂

[@TBATTIECYCLING]

Thomas Yates driving one of these at the moment. Not really feeling it. Needs a turbo

[@Tomyates91]

@@TBATTIECYCLING Probably does mate but for me the powerful car I've driven was my 2005 Mini Cooper with 115bhp... So going to a FN2 with 200bhp would be awesome for me! Probably still would get bored after a while tho...

[@joem8213]

Doesn't matter what car you have, you'll always want more power lol

[@TBATTIECYCLING]

joe M 😂

[@mafzchowdhury2438]

My fav Type R! 💥👊🏼

[@Oward7891]

Do a vid on your car history

[@chaudary7862]

I thought you done a video on the FN2 agesssss ago if i remember correctly, might be wrong but i think i watched it years back haha.

[@barts3845]

Anyone know what's happened to the competition ?

[@FE55ELT]

Great buy calvin 👍🏼

[@saudade2745]

Past fans, ebay modders and stretched definitions of 'a better car' which favour trim and xbox dashboards, the fn2 has never been better than an ep3 in a drivers hands (yes, that old chestnut). The question hasn't needed to be asked since the fn2 was released. Great way of herding some fn2 owners though still desperately trying to justify a bad choice. Hi all x

[@mattknightvlogs1995]

Nice watch man what is it?

[@santana9537]

Type R is basically a baby bat mobile

[@edwardhelps6523]

Get out in the Scooby WRX 💪

[@TIM612826]

Nice mohawk dude 😂. What was the cat n for, u didn't say?

[@50Aslan]

Plz do a video on that Impreza!! 😍

[@jonathonstanley5811]

2 adverts planet of dreams advert then another advert b4 saw car bored now

[@jing713]

Three not free...

[@fatwalletboy2]

video 96 - doing anything to mark your 100th vid Calv?? Think you need to do something a bit out there for the 100.

[@CalvinsCarDiary]

fatwalletboy2 I’ve got quite a big plan for video 100. Just trying to sort some bits out between now and then. Hopefully it all goes to plan

[@crazehayes1]

Race Ricky?

[@cedric1138]

For the money the FN2 is the best hot hatch you can buy.

[@Petrolheadd-u2u]

No dought the EP3 are faster

[@keepitsteel1993]

Did your uncle win that car yet then brah?

[@honestreview1043]

I can't believe the golf R is getting raffled again!

[@scottp4547]

Yeh it’s wrong Wrong morals definitely Shud of told new owners no Not hard go on autotrader n put advert on

[@fatwalletboy2]

I dont even get now why the winner bpught a ticket....they said on camera yes its a great car but we will sell it......sounds like it was always their plan just to make money off it. A proper petrolhead would be driving around it in today not selling it so soon after winning it....lets hope the next owner is #ONIT

[@darrellcairns1007]

Sorry, is this vid suppose to be a car review ... or him waffling on...??

[@mafzchowdhury2438]

Not as good as EP3 but nicer then Ep3

[@b1h2u3p4]

Put an Tdi north turbo kit 700bhp

[@robhampton6216]

One tasty motor, jumbo size hot hatch woooo

[@brens9056]

Why is it always sunny were you are

[@stephenbates8370]

K20 not tunable news to me Calvin what are you talking about 🤔. Sorry mate I have to disagree.

[@Android-vk8yh]

Yes👍 fn2 is the more mature intelligent man space age Civic Type R. Very tuneable and gt good specs. EP3 in the older our day dinosaur still with a great engine generally a bit chavsy🤭

[@antoniostreetbikes5396]

We want to see the IMPREZA!!!

[@musshwins412]

FN2 owner = FN2 is better. EP3 owner = EP3 is better. Debate over.

[@jasonlycett2038]

Regardless of opinions on what's better ps ep3 better 😉 theres one factor that is a no brainer an ep3 is an appreciating asset and fast becoming a classic it will be worth more therefore get an ep3 whilst there still affordable

[@mrdayumfine109]

It's going to be a while still before EP3s start to go up massively in value. The problem with being that reliable, is that there's still thousands of them out there...

[@TassieLorenzo]

If you want the model that will appreciate surely you have to get the FD2 Type R? But with no cruise control and very stiff suspension, I'm not sure it's a terribly good everyday car.

[@kenrossaukrsa]

My friend has a non cat one exact same for sale in Aylesbury

[@stephenshaw4871]

How much he selling it for? Milage?

[@kenrossaukrsa]

Stephen Shaw 3500, will confirm mileage

[@stephenshaw4871]

@@kenrossaukrsa ok get back to me

[@nelc2399]

You should get FD2R instead

[@supermotomadness]

Swap the type r for my twingo gt……… please…..

[@steeldevil98]

How many times can someone say ep3 typr r lol

[@TBATTIECYCLING]

steeldevil98 go over to Jesse ep3 for even more

[@manccarguy]

steeldevil98 Chill out mate it’s a good car.

[@shanemitchelmore7196]

Blue Subaru next vid?

[@jacksmith-ok8tx]

Has that poor golf r been sitting there for 3 months?

[@fatwalletboy2]

i bet honda stuck a bespoke 2nd gear in just to record their hopeful times to 60,,,,,,,,,

[@manccarguy]

fatwalletboy2 What are you talking about mate when he says in the vid it goes up to 59MPH. Maybe if the new owner mods it to rev to 9K might be able to hit 60 in 2nd gear which may shave of about a second or so.

[@djt2691]

saying a k20 isnt very good to tune shows your just a dealer bro.

[@damiendonaghy1638]

Free fing fink translates three thing think lol

[@cameronwhitham5158]

did he really say " a k20 isn't that tuneable, "

[@alia8504]

N/A route 350 max after spending good money on it, turbo its probably the best ever 4 cylinder engine ever made and can see 1000 bhp with reasonable money

[@jackwalker5768]

Need a scooby video calv

[@mohammedazaan5222]

How do we all know the people tht win arent related to u or friends mmm

[@anthonyshackleton6178]

Tou look like you have aged 12 years between now and that clip you played 😂

[@joeyfretwell3403]

I dint like Hondas at all but the ep3 is well beter all yours has it 1 horsepower more and ways a lot more than the ep3 but all Hondas are tin cans all nose

[@alihus2087]

100 a ticket rip off

[@Nas4real]

Big let down this car, Ep3 was the proper type r. Also for the the price the Astra vxr or focus st are a lot better

[@manccarguy]

Nas4real Whone one handles better and is more reliable comfortably and is more fun??

[@Danial0152]

EP3 is tragic to live with everyday, great drivers car though FN2 is easy to live with as a daily and fun when needed

[@manccarguy]

Danzy1138 FN2 looks like a spaceship. The arches looks so bad and cheap made out of plastic. Torsion at the rear. Way too big. Handles like a fridge. 2bhp more. I sometimes commute to work 6 days a week. EP3 is the last real Type R. The rest have turbos or are an FN2. Some FN2s GTs are cheaper then a Standard EP3 (Non premier)

[@Danial0152]

@@manccarguy the best is FD2 Type R but they are not cheap

[@manccarguy]

Danzy1138 Yeah UK cars EP3. Overseas the FD3 may just be the last real Type R been NA. The EP3 has way more value for money whereas the FD2 Amd DC5 are well over priced imo.

[@nicwilson89]

I just can't get over the way it looks...it's like a fat beetle (insect) or something :/

[@ThePgunner]

I agree at some angles it doesn't look great. I have one and I think in person it looks a lot nicer than in this video. The black paint looks amazing when you polish it up

[@maisto8552]

Like people

[@mfd7289]

FN2 is better than ep3. Hands down.

[@80skid83]

Much better too, ep3 too dated now

[@alangordon2511]

Depends if you enjoy driving or want a nice interior

[@LucasModding]

It's only registered as 300bhp so how can most people not get insured onit 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@xVwraithVx]

cos it’s not just 300hp

[@LucasModding]

@@xVwraithVx yh I kno it's not 300bhp it's 560bhp but it's only registered as a standard golf r 300bhp

[@wiggyp1v255]

nowhere near as good as an EP3

[@wildchilde69]

Much better "overall" car than the EP3. Similar thrills, modern exterior design that has aged much better, an interior that is several generations ahead. EP3 is no doubt the choice for more raw experience and B-road blasts, but FN2 is still great under those circumstances as well and better just about everywhere else.

[@JA-wy1zv]

Problem is most ep3s you come across are ragged , still s few good examples of FN2s about not for long though. I've driven both and the FN2 is the nicer car .. better seats , technology,interior & comfort

[@elaxel1469]

@@wildchilde69 With the Ep3 I've had a driver-car connection that I've never felt with the Fn2 this control of the car that mazdafans call jinba ittai

[@wildchilde69]

​@@elaxel1469 I'm not surprised. As I said, EP3 has more of that 'old school' feel to it. The FN2 is more refined in comparison. A few light mods really woke mine up though and it's been a rewarding driving experience, especially when compared to much of its competition at the time.

[@JeremyLivingston-f8v]

No to new engine, thats the american way, american motors are trash for the most part