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[@CalvinsCarDiary]

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[@wdbsurfer]

Listen, Sytner Tring is the definition of customer service excellence.

[@DownShiftThrottle]

So what is the reason why you won’t be buying it…..I couldn’t figure from the vid…??

[@chaitanyasamardhi8495]

Thats how these guys create titles so we click on it. This is way they choose to earn their money misguiding people and wasting their time.

[@emanuelmagda5855]

What a fucking waste of time so true😢

[@Lockyoriginal1]

I would rather borrow £50,000 for 5 years at £1,000 a month and then own the car - admittedly second hand ! Option 2 most can afford a decent deposit so £10k deposit & borrow £40k = £839 month and you would own after 5 years - far better than £800 a month for 4 years (£38,400) and hand back. Great review as usual- fantastic looking car👍👍😁

[@baronvonhoughton]

You know there's 60 months in 5 years yeah?

[@Jamie7ee]

@@baronvonhoughton you know about interest charges right? £50k over 60months comes in at just over £1k month

[@Lockyoriginal1]

@@baronvonhoughton 👍

[@Lockyoriginal1]

@@baronvonhoughton No l didn’t thanks for that 🤔👍, got 19 👍 and only 2 dumb ass replies 😂😂

[@markgt894]

Fantastic looking car 😂😂😂 said nobody apart from BMW and their fanboys on the new M2

[@Jamie7ee]

Imagine paying £799 pm, for 4 years and then just handing it back and walking away 😮 pcp ain't for me. But each to their own.

[@jackbernard484]

I did PCP in 2018 on a M140i i only had 2.5k. by 2022 i now own it.

[@Jamie7ee]

@@jackbernard484 £2.5k put down or £2.5k balloon payment? Not bad either way 👍🏻. Difference in value though to the m2 that's mega bucks

[@JoeSnD]

More than my mortgage payment 😂 fuck that

[@iwonaczapla2406]

I would rather buy hybrid 3 series estate 2023 and get loan and pay it all off in few years. M cars are way too expensive where you spend fortune on petrol, tax and insurance.

[@Anton-bj8gj]

Mine costs me £650 pm. I've always paid around £400pm in Co Car Tax, before getting this, so the way I'm looking at it is £400 I've never had in my payslip, plus £250 of my own money. Looking at it another way - a bloke I work with smokes 20 cigarettes a day. My estimate is that it costs him £500pm to keep up his habit. I know which I'd rather spend money on. The M2 is an immense car.

[@nathanstupple3848]

This BMW is about the best I have owned plenty of useable power Manual gearbox it is great. Push M2 button makes great sound. 20 around town if having fun 30 on the motorway. It is the new meeting the old A rapid e46 m3 . Great we just need better roads to use it on . Enjoy.

[@nathanaelbennett8286]

Not enough people appreciate the reality of modern cars. We like the 90s bmws but they are not usable for todays consumers, the technology and the game has changed enough that no one is buying them. Be thankful that you can get a nearly 500hp rwd manual for the price this is at.

[@Bluescooby1]

Think of it this way as I did. It's £184:38 a week to borrow this car from BMW that is £26:34 a day every day for 5 years. That, in my humble opinion, is nuts even for an M2.

[@matthewnicholas6365]

My E46 M3 was sold in 2003 for £46k £46k in 2003 is the equivalent of £81k today. £81k sits somewhere between a current wel spec'd G87 and G8x without options. Having owned the E46, an F83 and had a G87 for a weekend, it's epic. Totally practical, looks bonkers, goes like stink. It's a far more accomplished car than you think it will be.

[@rtanoskills1120]

Its an expensive way to say to everyone else " Look at me, look how rich I am, look how im trapped in a PCP deal" But hey, you get to drive a new car. 🤣🤣🤣 If having a new car means that much to ya...£800 a month🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@amacke4736]

​@@rtanoskills1120 it is also possible that some people just like to have the new M2 for other reasons other then your stated ones

[@brentpowell7889]

@@rtanoskills1120that’s your point of view, because you probably can’t afford it, most new cars are bought this. If Uber into performance cars and luv driving you are buying an experience you can enjoy everyday, track days , toad trips abroad. You are a long time dead 🤔

[@richardtrow2751]

I do like the new M2 👍🏻 couldn't justify £800 a month for one but nice to Dream

[@zacboi94]

I’m sorry, but I’ve just out an order in for a new M2 coming in September. As someone who sells cars yourself, you know full well the monthly cost and the car can be had for a much lower cost. Having had the G82 M4, and now getting the M2 after having one on loan for a week. I can honestly say the M2 is a more enjoyable and fun little car! Can not wait to get it

[@darkbassi5911]

Is that a downgrade from an M4 G82 to an M2.

[@fishkeeperuk4198]

I met you at petrolheadism with my son (the lad that said he saw you in our home village) top guy spending a few mins having a proper chat with him rather than like most, trying to get away fast as possible after a quick grumble at their followers. You were probably my son’s highlight of the day. Be cool if you wanted to do a video on our car the new m2 track pack etc and the center exhausts etc etc, happy to meet a track for the day.

[@M440iUK]

No matter what way you cut it the M2 is a stunning drivers car. The M3 and M3 touring is just too much money and power for the road, BMW should just bite the bullet and make a M2 touring, I want to see that!

[@Leehuss5582]

Calvin your right about BMs you first see it either hate or love it but it does grow on you..the 2series i was not a fan but am now The M2 looks like a BatMobile..wicked

[@Neil2022]

I compromised and bought an m235i GC. 30 k for a 6 month old. 300bhp, 4 doors. Pretty comfy. Enough power for UK roads.

[@Neil2022]

Owned an m4 com but too much power through 2 wheels. Lost stupid money in 9 months of ownership.

[@nathanl1461]

Seriously underrated car! Sold mine for a G26 M440i as needed more room.

[@nathanl1461]

@@Neil2022absolutely love it. Noticeably faster being the B58, but also remarkably better in fuel, and I’m no daisy driver. It’s a different level being a 4, but that’s nothing against the 2 either which is amply plush for the price point.

[@pauljohnson9326]

So better part of 40k then decide if you want to give the car back .....no no no . Too much money , ppl are insane and like to waste money imo.

[@Cripinub1]

It’s the people who think it’s cheap that BM are targeting, easy to fool gang

[@neilmcguinness4422]

Some people have a lot of money Paul, and financing an M2 is no problem for them. Let them spend their money as they choose. 55K can buy you a very low mileage 24 reg anyway.

[@pauljohnson9326]

@neilmcguinness4422 I get that but my opinion is its madness , especially when you lose so much value right away. Each and to there own of course just my opinion.

[@matthewnicholas6365]

You're gonna lose a ton on a new car either way. If you finance it you could feasibly lose less than if you buy it outright and then sell it in 4 years. For me though, it's better to buy one in a couple of years with low miles, full factory warranty and get a decent low interest loan with a chunk up front. 1 year old G87s right now are mid to high 50s By next year you'll probably be able to get a nearly new barely used one for something starting with a 4. And then you could own it for a few years and not lose a great deal.

[@rtanoskills1120]

Let em have their new cars. Let em have those monthly payments. Too much money Just to have a new car. Im the 3rd owner of my car and its now got 181k on the clock. Had it since 67k. Ill never finance a car.

[@TRD1949uk]

Best thing I found from a G80 vs my F87 m2 DCT comp was that the DCT is perfect for pushing it on track but jerky day to day and fast on road. The ZF is better for day to day fast road driving. But lacks a bit on track I tried reaching out when I owned a G42 M240i to try and get you to do a driver of video and let you try out the latest gen M Lite but never got a reply 😢

[@eatdahl]

£800 a month is just too much.

[@lewiscannon8213]

It's 70k you Donut 😅😅😅

[@Nicholasvid]

That's cheap, mate 😂

[@eatdahl]

@@Nicholasvid £800 a month which double a mortgage payment is cheap? This is why you will probably stay broke all your life

[@Nicholasvid]

@eatdahl depends on your income 🤔

[@TheoFennel]

Actually £800 is a good price for a brand new price over 2/3 years PCP. Someone you think cars should be given away for free.

[@mahalwala]

I paid 640 a month with nothing up front...3 yr deal...ordered and csnt wait heard its brilliant to drive

[@iSynto]

Is that for a new or used G87?

[@neilmcguinness4422]

It is beyond exciting. You will fall in love with it.

[@philiphawkins4684]

2019 M2 comp was like £44k new this M2 is £70k?

[@bc1sjw]

The OG M2 was £45k brand new, the comp.was £60k. But yes your overall point - the price increase of the new M2 is insane. But then the M240i has also jumped from £33k - £45k. Audi and VW have done the same with the S3, RS3 and GTI and R respectively. All these cars have gone up in price £10-£20k on previous models. Your the guts of £40k for a new GTI and £50k now for a Golf R which is absolutely mind blowing

[@chrisarmstrong6997]

What's wrong with a og M2 I drive a manual one 2017 it's a very special car I don't like the new shape car

[@1066gaz]

Bmw need to make a proper dashboard, looks like oversized mobile phones has been stuck on it. New VW golf the same. Trying to look like an ev dashboard and trying to condition you to ev's.

[@jboi9309]

Lol.. Unfortunately.. it's the in thing now amongst car manufacturers as technology speeds ahead..

[@hmaster3313]

Pre-facelift G20 interior was just right

[@drjk7565]

As I always said, blame Tesla/Elon Musk for pushing this trend into becoming the norm.

[@christianxc98]

⁠@@drjk7565why blame him when each brand and manufacturer makes their own decisions if they decided to put a digital screen dash and chose to copy someone else’s idea blame the manufacturer/brand for doing that don’t hate the player hate the game

[@The-Audi-driver]

The paddle shifters, they should of had red for up shift blue for down shift, and Calvin ring BMW up and tell them your giving the car away on planet of dreams

[@rsjamie9423]

I love my M2. Great daily and cheap IMHO for what it is 👍

[@dedan2]

U rich

[@broken12367]

PCP isn’t buying the car. So the car costs £39,151 over 4 years to basically rent it.

[@marcust123]

Wow thats shocking

[@rayvon354]

So effectively when the car is worth sub £30k in 4 years which it will be you will probably of saved around £5k just to ‘own the car’ speak to anyone with money, no one buys cars for cash it’s stupid 👍

[@rayvon354]

@@Luckyjo21 well done on fully wasting money then 👍

[@Insetta]

​@rayvon354 these guys believe people with supercars pay in full 😂

[@rayvon354]

@@Insetta these people believe there really good paying cash for a 15-20k car that will be worth about 5k in about 4 years 😂

[@bigmatt2896]

that big screen is fucking awful, just gimme a set of dials, if i wanted a widescreen tv in my car i would put an engine behind my 60" samsung.........

[@butchmeister80]

I think these look sick, in red they look epic.

[@dazayit]

You still need to run it. Then the tax after the first year. Easily 1500 quid a month on what is basically as rental.

[@dazza1980]

Let’s be fair Calvin could have any car he wanted just shows how humble the guy is

[@SanctumRubis]

How tall are you by the way ? I'm thinking of getting an M2 but I'm tall. Did you feel comfortable driving it ? How was the head room ?

[@mikematthews2k181]

Amazing review Calvin !! £800 deposit is amazing 🎉. I assume the bigger the deposit the lower the monthly payments? I really hope Sytner let you review more cars. You give a good, honest review and break down the costs . Some people including me are abit apprehensive walking into a dealership! Asking about finance and plans. Your video gives us a ball park figure to work with !! M8 competition next Calvin? Or a BMW I7 sport . With the TV. Stop you buying a Rolls Royce instead 😂😂

[@jonnyboy4340]

They can’t give them away at Tring. And when you want to actually want to buy a BMW there they just ignore emails etc. Still Uncle Tony sorted me out where others couldn’t be arse.

[@moonbaby6134]

Rather have the M240i x drive. Better daily and save £15k.

[@marksmithard7801]

I’ve just bought one. Not driven an M2 but the M240i x drive is amazing

[@moonbaby6134]

@@marksmithard7801 friend at work has the new M2. I let him drive mine and he was not disappointed. To me it’s about useable power and the four wheel drive is like a little added bonus.

[@jeffufcfanaticrosenberg]

100mph GOV , BICIYCLE TIRES , and inferior SUSPENSION to the M2

[@lesfernandez888]

You were literally waxing lyrical about this particular car from start to finish, with barely enough time to take a deep breath between your sentences. You should apply to be a BMW salesman 😅😂

[@OsirisPL]

Yeah it was cringe. Obvioulsy very mindful about his "relationship" with the dealer.

[@leejones6080]

I’ve just bought a new i4, and have to say I’m really impressed with it. Calv, get your hands on one and do a video 👍🏻

[@bexigesky2599]

You can own what you can buy cash. An M car is not a fundamental need. Erich Fromm can help you in making the right choice if you try to read some of his books. It is challenging but worth the try

[@danielbeecher4482]

Previous shape was spot on ...new 1 needs a few styling mods to get me to like it like the previous. Great car underneath tho.

[@richboy900]

I'm not a fan of the new styled BMWs (M2 included), but the G87 I feel is very spec dependent. Black suits it, hides the lines. A bright colour doesn't

[@Ad0akes]

Euro cars from July 2024 will have speed limiters fitted as standard by EU regulations. England wouldn't have gotten them, but Sunak wants them. Hopefully, it's not the GPS limiters but can also be buzzer or restricted throttle.

[@haider7866]

I’m sure tuners will be able to remap them out

[@bc1sjw]

Just a myth and scare tactic. Certainly not happening in Scotland anyway.

[@robiulahmed]

My biggest issue with the M2 is the size of the fuel tank. 200 miles on a full tank is woeful.

[@DannySmith-ez2yb]

They must be finding it hard to shift these new M2’s they have had to draft calv in to try and sell this one ! Great vid calv as always! The work and effort you put in is incredible ! Stay blessed 💪🏼💙🙏🏼

[@gregsterere]

The gearbox in these new M’s is what puts me off, the DCT is just a superior gearbox for sporty driving, take downshifting 2/3 gears for a corner, the ZF just feels dead 💀

[@Jeremy-vp3yr]

If they make an xdrive version, i would definitely buy

[@jeffufcfanaticrosenberg]

no

[@Heisenhag]

£800 a month is about £500 more than most of us can afford

[@randybroderick5127]

Should trade in my 2020 M2 Comp (20k miles) for the new 2024 (2025 NA) M2 Thoughts??

[@butchmeister80]

Yes

[@AndyWood71]

Definitely not

[@deepfiix]

I think Calv should go for an M8 Competition, anyone else agree?

[@OzSaudarna]

Yeah after his car history m2 is deffo too small for Calv 😅

[@ollzzz9285]

Howcome the front and rear have different tyre sizes?

[@AI-Records24]

BMW stagger most their set ups more grip for the rear wheels which the power comes through

[@bc1sjw]

Rear arches, and thus rear tyres are wider. Common for RWD bias.

[@BluntWorx]

So basically Calvin clickbaited us in with a thumbnail to suggest a negative review. And says only good things about it. Hmmm

[@bc1sjw]

Having watched the video fully I have to question those figures: £800 deposit, £800 a month for a £66k car? This seems off when if you look on Autotrader, the average PCP on a £66k car comes in at around £1,075 per month with a £1k deposit. The cheapest 2023 M2 on Autotrader as of today is valued at £52k. The adverts PCP example is £1k down then £760x48 payments. So based on this I think the figures quoted in this video are off by quite a bit. £800 down and £1100 per month sounds more realistic.

[@bc1sjw]

Actually wonder if he meant to say £8k down instead of £800 down, then £800 a month, as that would make a lot more sense.

[@jackfalls1722]

I do like it but i could swear it’s now bigger than an e46 M3 lol

[@jbmectronic4314]

It is 300kg heavier though

[@Alltorquengo]

Looks like the old m2 and e36 put together. The box look on the m2 doesn’t look good

[@kyblckwd246]

Love the look of the 240i but hate the m2 still

[@Jithin48]

Can you please tell us about its reliability.. is it full of plastic under the hood..

[@stevenmorrison8413]

What a beautiful looking car

[@peterwood2633]

Done pcp once abd never again! Savings plus a loan. If i cant afford the car that way theb i leave it be. Shame the 3% rate days seem behind us?! I owe nothing on my og m2 and it feels great, mods and all!

[@Locka009]

bmw driver dont hold the door by the glass finger marks lol

[@robertmoss9468]

Calvin, stop messing about as you know you really want an Alpina because just like you they are Special 👍🏻🤣

[@Japplesnap]

G80 grill is still ugly AF. They said it would grow on me. It hasn't. On the other hand, I loved the look of the G87 from day one.

[@AR-rs2dy]

I won't be buying one either but that's because I can't justify spending double what I pay for my mortgage. Sadly, I still have more sense than money.

[@byronhall5145]

Are those seats super comfortable or super something else lol . I'd never buy a new car especially pcp!

[@EastWood2004]

The appearance is subjective and I think this grows on me. I want to buy one of these.

[@Griizmo]

I still prefer the g42 base model or m240i the M2 bumpers not it.. At least the black colour hides it well

[@Donnald-ky7dn]

Best shape 2 series in my opinion , and the new m240i , , ,

[@dedan2]

Too much dimensions

[@No-vj5or]

your taste is absolutely shite

[@DontPanicDear]

I like the bit where they cut out the WTF why won’t the bonnet open 😂

[@justinbunting3027]

Just have the 1st M2 or M2 comp .You can get a nice 1 for 35k with low miles and save yourself 35k 👍

[@MrSlpierce]

But then you gotta worry about warranties, and how hard it's been ragged, but you're right it's a way better financial solution, as long as it doesn't blow up :)

[@Jamesgarethmorgan]

After all that waiting to hear the reason you 'won't be buying the new G87' - you say in the last few seconds - 'it's simply not the car for me'. Huh? That's it? I waited 23 minutes for that?

[@No-vj5or]

thanks . read this at 40 seconds in

[@DasArab]

If if your gonna splash that much dosh on a bemmer id buy Alpina. People will think your a bit more sophisticated and not a total knob.

[@tarmac1697]

Have to be mad to buy a new M2, they can be bought less than a year old for less than 50k. Look hard enough probably find one for 45k or a bit over

[@jboi9309]

Calvin.. excellent running commentary!! 👏👏

[@anthonydallura6235]

Have owned 2 m cars in the past but my new RS3 is next level

[@amartherealest]

Sick car 🔥 but bit too costly for me 😂

[@oootaffooo501]

That car is absolutely gorgeous 💯💪👍

[@JAG2024-j4j]

Nice car sounds alot better than my BMW i5 🤣but that's a different type of BMW I suppose.

[@mbingham10]

These wont be a mass produced car because BMW have to offset the sale with an electric car sale and they cant give ES’s away at the moment it will be a future classic

[@rayvon354]

DCT is untouchable for me, I don’t want a smooth millisecond quicker gearbox on my M car. I want a raw car where you feel everything

[@PeakMotionOfficial]

No diddy

[@karolmaciejewski340]

Liked it from the beginning and I like it even more now. Great car, great value for money.

[@MrDJLeeE]

Nice sales pitch 😂

[@Missed_Apex_GT]

lol yeah free promo 😉

[@JeremyGraves-u3r]

Hi fella what a beautiful motor good old German build nice one keep up the good content Calvin cheers jerry g 👍

[@everythingtechnew7400]

I hate those screens with a passion. Almost impossible to fix & in 8 years or so will become yet another obsolete electronic item. Impossible to replace as it’s made specifically for the vehicle down to the dimensions & every critical part you need to make the car functional hinges on it working. Also it looks like an accountant designed it screams aftermarket down to the way it’s connected to the dashboard. There’s a functional reason why instrument clusters have been designed & integrated offering protection from sun & windscreen mirroring for the driver. I’d be interested to see if the lcd screen mirrors onto the windscreen at night time.

[@huddstudent2009]

Hate it when reviewers take nearly 15 minute mark in the vid to review the drive. But overall good review.

[@FCUKULEZ]

I stupidly got a second hand x5 m50d 14k miles for £1300 a month for 4 years 😂😂 i dont have to give it back tho but the 240i was in the show room cheaper new than the x5 i got, if it wasnt for me having a bad back getting in and out. I love my x5 i dont love the £1300 a month 😂😂

[@batboy.]

Saw this bloke the other day in his daily, Golf R.

[@Matthew-jn7ss]

Still not a massive fan of the grill on the g80’s personally

[@marcust123]

One of these or a nice bmw 1m? I know what im choosing

[@PeakMotionOfficial]

Ikr this car all day

[@marcust123]

@@PeakMotionOfficial 🤦‍♂️

[@909happydude]

That price tag is someones idea of a sick joke....

[@andrewkilby226]

Looks like a m2 what id try to draw at school 😂

[@JamesWilliam_1]

£800 a month is a bargain! We spend more than £800 a month having our cars washed 😂😂

[@TM240x]

If I was closer I’d let you review my M240i Xdrive . If in the area , will pop in 👊🏽

[@paulpalmer8235]

So BMW aren’t selling any then - it’s just too boxy at the front for me- the new M3’s had the crap grille at the front which has grown on me but the new M2 just looks weird and odd albeit it looks so much better inside than the older M2!

[@991carreras3]

So many complaining the car is to much but for others it's not alot. If you can't afford why watch the video and complain it's to much watch Honda &Toyota videos.

[@tx41979]

PCP still got balloon payment after 4 or 5 yrs

[@dice1902]

£800 a month gets you a RS5 20 plate under 30k miles

[@kashsingh8364]

rather buy a 19 plate mercedes gt 4 dr , twice the car and value for money

[@darkzmith3732]

I was gonna make a video like this but it woulda been to short , all I woulda said is I don’t have enough money 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@BMW-tr3nf]

You are looking at real art in a shape of a car it's called a BMW.💪👌

[@ivanmccain9911]

Who does not have the money should not consider the car out of their league. I own the Toronto Red and car is great.

[@rtanoskills1120]

£800 a month and still wont own the car after 2 years. BMW you can keep it. Ill stick with my 2006 Audi A4. Thats £0 a month and after 2 years it will still be mine. New cars are sooooo over priced. Rich people...stop buying new cars, force them to sell them cheaper. This M2 is worth about £45k-50k. Audi are trying to sell RS3's with 60-70k miles on the clock and they asking 40 grand!!! BMW, Audi, give ya heads a wobble.

[@butchmeister80]

Yeah but a4 is crap new m2 isn’t lol

[@beckygair2272]

When a new car has more than 90 miles on the clock it’s classed as second hand

[@DjNikGnashers]

It's wildy inaccurate to say they went from the 1M to the M2 which is basically the same car. It's completely different, different engine, gearbox, track, wheelbase, steering rack, etc, etc, lol. Own an OG M2, and it's a much better car than the 1M, but of course fanboys will always say the 1M is better simply because of it's rarity and how much they are worth now. The OG M2 is a better handling, faster, and better looking car.

[@infinite562]

I have a 2025 BMW M240I Xdrive, it's awesome.

[@johngabucci]

The M3 Touring is stunning..

[@c4a5m3]

There is a difference between liking something and something growing on you. The old M5 was hideous. It never grew on me. The current M3/M4 Grills are ugly, and it wasn't necessary. It ruined the look of the car. I've become accustomed to it, but it's still not attractive, hence folks buying kits to change the front of the car. The M2 grill isn't as bad to me as the M3/M4, but still not attractive. BMW makes cars that are polarizing, and they do it intentionally it seems. It would be better if they made good looking cars versus polarizing, but I think we are stuck with this for a while. The new M5 isn't great either, but less offensive than others.

[@SkillsForKills89]

2017 OG M2 or 2022 i30N DCT?