Copper Crisis: Prices Go Up or the Lights Go Out

[@rebeccastallard5366]

Great interview!!

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

Look at all the copper telephone lines getting recycled because of cell phones.

[@sazajac77z]

Whew! This guy is ONE HELL of a salesman! Where do I sign?

[@rebeccastallard5366]

Freeport McMoran investing time! I worked at the CLP Concentrate Leach Plant where we turned concentrate into Copper Sulfate by using Autoclaves. Cheaper and no smelting.

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

Are there any definitive online resources you could point to concerning Freeport McMoran, the CLP Concentrate Leach Plant, and the Copper Sulfate Autoclave process? I mean, I can Google, but I'd very much appreciate any link-titles you could copy-paste here. Sometimes it takes that specific famliarity with the topic to get a search to turn up the right sources. Thanks for sharing and in advance!!

[@rebeccastallard5366]

I worked at the one in Moreci. The one in Baghdad Arizona makes Moly Trioxide .

[@deandragland5542]

With the growing scrap pool, they estimate that scrap supply will increase from around one third of global copper today to around 40% by 2035 and reach around a half of total copper consumption by 2050. That is a long way off in satisfying consumption. The pool of ‘old scrap’ is principally determined by the average lifetime of an end-use product. The average life of copper in-use is around 20 years.

[@mikemackenzie9064]

Thanks

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

More and more water lines are switching from copper to pex. That is a HUGE amount of recycled copper.

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

Canadian mines produced 510,782 tonnes of copper in concentrate in 2022, a 0.3% increase from a decade low of 509,350 tonnes in 2021. Canadian production decreased 17.7% overall between 2013 and 2022, from 620,989 tonnes to 510,782 tonnes.

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

LED lights use very little power. I see a day when wiring for lights will be reduced from 12 & 14 guage, down to something like 18 or 20 or possibly going to an aluminum alloy.

[@deandragland5542]

No optimal process for the removal of lead in copper or more specifically brass recycling has been found yet.

[@markburuma511]

It would be great if someone could do a quantitative analysis of how much copper will be needed to support ai globally also for all the nuclear reactors

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

And fibre optics is replacing communications copper lines and computer/electronics wiring. There will be no shortage of copper, I can assure you. Any price jumps are unnecessary and unwarranted and corrupt money grabs.

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

You can't use fiber optic to run wires from power plants to powers datacenters as well as a multitude of charging stations/houses for EV's as well as the batteries themselves used in EV's which seems to be the drive behind this need for expanded productions of copper. Considering this, is there any other industry you are aware of that would utilize copper? Or are there none making copper just an antiquated resource? My personal bias is that EV's need to die. They even mention that EV legislation itself was preemptively early without enough resources to feed demand, extremely far from it, relegating EV's to a boutique market with various technological cataracts from making it viable, which has at least the USA looking abroad for rare earth metals in other countries (like this case). ICE engines are so much more reliable in all use cases and infrastructure integrations than EV's could ever be. There may be a small part for them like with properly intregrated acceleration-engines from a cold stop that is more efficient than ICE's making them useful portion of ICE-applications, but to run the whole of the American fleet, let alone worldwide fleet, would be folly and will require extreme, yet unseen advances that haven't come after a whole century of evolution let alone during the advent of EV's as a potential contender. The juice isn't worth the squeeze (for even the miniscule percentile of people that drive them, all of them essentially sacrificial investors barely moving the mark of a worldwide market of rare earth metals that attends to only the richest of economies and for only a short span of time leaving us right where we started if we were to ever force said legislation upon an economy which would be suicide of not just that industry but of all industries therein as transportation is the life blood of everything since the Industrial Revolution, and we don't want the implication of that scenario to play out...EVER, unless you're ready to be a nation of Amish technology serfs under whoever holds the largest gun caches, namely government military and private citizens, and guess who gets the advantage in that civil war: the one who holds enough fuel and private farm food sources, ie the military. It whiffs of that right now with a number of conspiracies seemingly pointing that way with private bilionaire farms and an gigantic influx of low-education laborers ready to consume the slave chow of the private insect farms. And that may just be a one-generation use of those laborers, leading to a series of cancer related deaths caused by chronic chitin-ingestion (bug shells cause digestive foaming and cancers, look it up). But that's just generallized speculation with a heavy dash of pessimism and insanity thrown in there. "It'll all work out in the end". Not so sure about that with population numbers faked across teh board implying staggering corruption and draining of wealth using proxy phantom population, almost certainly in China being 50% overstated and then most likely many more with foreign aide out to Ukraine and then Sounth AMerica and Africa still with subsidized glyphosated crops that create semi-castrated golem slaves with a one-life no-children "seedless GMO" human labor group. EV's are evil. Just sayin'.

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

@ fibre optics in communications is replacing existing copper lines. Recycled copper. Reduces the burden of new mining ventures. RECYCLED copper, as technology advances and options replace old tech needs, will fill and so called gaps. There are also other metals that can be used in different applications.

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

@ do you realize your hydro lines are aluminum?

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

@ EV Li-ion batteries contain cathode (NMC or LFP), anode (Graphite or Silicon), separator (PVDF polymer) and Electrolyte. Cathode and anode are coated on Al and Cu current collectors respectively. So, in the case of NMC batteries, main metals present are lithium, manganese, cobalt, nickel, graphite, Aluminum and copper.

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

@ just so you know, im not going to read that incredibly long off on tangents conspiracy rant. There is no copper shortage.

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

There is lots of copper.

[@rebeccastallard5366]

Hard to get Smelter permits.

[@DinorwicSongwriter]

As long as copper roofing and copper pots and brass props are being made, there is no shortage of copper

[@PhysicalCoppercollector]

Im sitting on 100kg to 200kg of copper.

[@user-ue4he3li8b]

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[@wantonfuey1]

pumping cu endlessly isn't helpful to your members

[@aliasaila8818]

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[@leosalgado-qd2co]

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