Camila thinks Vedal is Entertaining without Neurosama

[@rolandkarimdesucatan5118]

Neuro is joker and Vedal is batman, they both complete each other

[@Drewer]

yes, you never see vedal and batman in one room.

[@jameswalker6326]

​@@DrewerVedal as a Batman that's checked out no wonder he's depressed af

[@Another_Hibiki]

Joker doesn't really complete Batman, this is a point that is shown to be wrong multiple times. To Batman, Joker is just another villain who needs to be brought to justice constantly, no different than the Scarecrow or Penguin. Overall, Joker is the one that needs Batman and that is only because of his obsession. A lot of things about the Joker are misssinterpreted, as an example, the point of 'The Killing Joke' was to prove that Joker's point of "It only takes one bad day" is wrong through Gordon and Bruce himself (there are even hints that Joker has always been a bad person in the backstory he had in that same story).

[@quique3676]

Is true, i doubt Neuro would be as popular if Vedal wasnt there

[@popeyethe29th]

I tried watching a neuro solo stream, it's boring as fuck. But he is always fun, whether he streams with neuro or with other creators.

[@RipleySawzen]

This is true. Neither of them are funny on their own. Vedal is a natural striaghtman, and this plays perfectly into all the unhinged stuff Neuro says

[@TheYedad]

True but I would watch him without the ai

[@maxlardinois8605]

@@RipleySawzen evil can be funny alone i wacth some espacially when she reveiw art or something like this maybe like 5 month ago both of tem was boring but know i see some solo who was really cool

[@jomujomu7513]

Nearly every stream with Vedal present has had higher CCV then just Neuro alone. It's been like that since the first dev stream. He arguably contributed more to his channel's growth being himself on stream, than his devwork towards Neuro lmao. But, I do agree with Vedal that he needed to make Neuro for people to even care about him in the firstplace.

[@andrewgreeb916]

The straight man is a staple of comedy, even schooby doo used it. Vedal is a great straight man.

[@valleyard8674]

"Roast me" "Nah, not worth it" And he freaking kills it, a lot of times where he just made the situation better on the fly, no context, just pure "sure... But..."

[@InsanePigeon]

Yes, what a good way to put it into words. Surrounded by all the over the top personalities of vtubers, vedal's dry, simple, humour is so funny. Like he's a wildcard and they just get dumbfounded at his existence sometimes.

[@AzhreiVep]

And Vtubing needs that more than most. They're _very_ short on both straight and men in this community. :P

[@Kawaiikahili]

​@@AzhreiVepI see what you did there. Dont disagree tho.

[@TotallyNotAtom]

Came for neuro Came to vedal Stayed for vedal

[@tsbrothinkstoomuch]

tf you say?

[@quackncheese]

Wait hold up

[@raviedavieu]

Huh?

[@Zxnnxd]

pause

[@ZeroXSEED]

What the dog doin?

[@sqbuilder1328]

Vedal is my oshi

[@garchompplush1975]

The true Kami-oshi

[@thewall4069]

Vedal is my GOAT

[@muratozsoy7116]

vedal is the best girl

[@rusydilfaiz3650]

its like yagoo is best gurl in hololive rather than the talents and in his channel vedal is best gurl rather than neuro and evil.

[@Takoandi]

he is very cute, for a femboy

[@tigrexkiller1548]

Honestly, Vedal isnt just entertaining but I think he's also just straight up a likeable guy. There is a reason so many Vtubers want to colab with Neuro and then end up being friends with Vedal afterwards.

[@getthedunkon9347]

Vedal's words... feel... real. Like a harsh kind of real. Like I've seen this guy taunt, banter, exaggerate or ignore things but that feels straight up real, like he genuinely believes it. And that's kind of sad, no?

[@Blusmj]

Imposter syndrome’s a bitch

[@Waisowol]

The most active members of his community tell that to him in his discord server every day. I think it makes sense he believes it. Plus we haven't really seen him being entertaining on his own, he is always with someone else to bounce off being the straight man of the bit. So objetively we can't say if he is entertaining or not by camilas definition of the word.

[@rlira8072]

Yes, it's very sad for his self esteem, Sans from Undertale

[@iseeyou1805]

Impostor syndrome is a bitch

[@TurtleMountain]

he comes off as a bit monotone and emotionless, but i'd say that he still has personality and his interactions with other streamers are funny and entertaining even when not with neuro. I dont think he would've gotten this big without neuro, but if he ditched her now I think he would probably still be successful.

[@kregdesu9530]

Neuro and Vedal act as foils to eachother and it's perfect.

[@CreateTeen]

if vedal wasnt entertaining, staz would be out of the job. he'd be sitting bored

[@Gabriel-nw6fc]

You said the V-word, prepare to be clipped

[@garlicbread8268]

Vedal and Neuro complete eachother, theyre both fun on their own but their banter is top tier content.

[@robertwallen1582]

Veedal is amazing himself because everyone else he interacts with is crazier than him in his strait man personality! He plays off everyone in a comedy way even if he is not trying which works perfectly with Neuro who is crazy almost all the time! They both need each other to succeed! This is why a corporation will never be able to make there own and be successful and no one has tried in 3yrs

[@pikira2246]

There are people who made AI vtubers, it’s just that there’s no Vedal figure for any of them. Not only that, none of them are as creative or advanced like Neuro. As much as he denies it, the reason he’s popular is BECAUSE he’s Vedal, not because he is an AI creator.

[@NajaToxicus]

So he is amazing because he has a straight man personality but it only matters in collabs, if Vedal would've started as a solo streamer, he would be at 2 viewers and noone to collab with right now

[@robertwallen1582]

@@NajaToxicus you are correct that's why I said they absolutely need each other, he knows that, Majority of male vtubers and streamers can't gain an audience with a cute avatar and voice they have to provide something more and unique to get attention

[@NajaToxicus]

@@robertwallen1582 yeah, it's just kinda annoying to see so many people go "uuh, Vedal is actually very funny, I would've watched him even without neuro" Bitch, every second 1 viewer streamer on twitch is as funny as Vedal, doesn't helps them

[@georgeghleung]

Basically, Vedal and Neuro is basically the relationship of a ventriloquist and the "dummy"

[@baxter22071990]

True, but dont most ventriloquists go a bit unhinged? 😂

[@InsanePigeon]

Aw cmon, he's not a dummy, he can code pretty well

[@Rikoyasha15]

Yeah, that's pretty much what I think too. Individual there, meh, but when they are with someone, they're pretty entertaining

[@MissusAnon]

I watch Neuro because of Neuro AND Vedal, even if 'Neuro' is the star of the show it would not be the same without Vedal, I really like him I think he's real and chill, I like seeing his work and progress with coding, and he's got that British dry sense of humor and I'm always down for any dry sense of humor. I do like when he collabs but that's kind of true with collabs in general making things more entertaining.

[@ImmortalLorient]

I'm basically in the same boat. If you take away Neuro or Vedal from the equation, I'm out. I find neither of them is all that entertaining on their own without someone else to interact with.

[@WheatDos]

​@@ImmortalLorientwhat about Evil?

[@planetary-rendez-vous]

Neuro alone is kinda boring. Neuro + another streamer is cool. Neuro + Vedal is peak. Neuro doesn't laugh in the same way when she realizes or not the things she says.

[@ImmortalLorient]

@@WheatDos Same thing. Evil tends to just kinda rant about nothing when left on her own, same as Neuro. They're just different flavors of ice cream and Vedal is the apple pie to that ice cream. None of them are bad on their own, but they're nowhere near as good as they are together.

[@Delfofthebla]

I love that she asked "am I wrong chat?" so everyone said no, but then both of them completely inverted the response in their heads.

[@pixelqiwi]

the whole feeling worse from receiving compliments thing hit a bit too close to home

[@thelazygamer1370]

I’m a fan of neuro but I enjoy Vedal n friends a lot more. I def am watching more clips of just Vedal than neuro

[@Tempest1013]

Vedal is my fav family vlogger

[@Timmothy_plays]

I absolutely adore their friendship! They're so cute together~~

[@zeonel6452]

Camila: You're my little pogchamp Vedal: Ok...

[@renmcmanus]

Vedal is the perfect manifestation of the straight man character. With the refreshing twist of enjoying the chaos he is deadpan reacting to.

[@rafaelfigfigueiredo2988]

Imma be real, i get bored after a while in solo streams. Even when there's impromptu collabs, feels like something is missing. And it's the damn tutel

[@are3287]

I dont watch any neuro solo streams, dev streams are where its at

[@jackavalmasovnon]

Watch the dev streams and watch clips of solo streams on yt

[@rafaelfigfigueiredo2988]

@jackavalmasovnon yeah?

[@jackavalmasovnon]

@@rafaelfigfigueiredo2988 just saying thats like the optimal watching method

[@ddmaster08]

As sad as this is... Its kinda true.but not in The way We May think. Vedal can be entertaining, yeah, but He really shines when he's talking to other People. That's one of The reasons dev streams are some of his best content. I don't think He would have the energy to stream by himself honestly.

[@jmkqfnvyl87]

A “straight man” (in the comedic sense) needs their buffoon.

[@KnightAngelGN]

Is not sad at all, vedal is a great co-host that matches the energy of the others around. Neuro helps keep that energy while he responds and engages.

[@ddmaster08]

@KnightAngelGN He is. What i meant by sad is that, its Hard to admit that you're not as entertaining alone.

[@ryangosling9275]

He is literally the only watchable male vtuber

[@D.Mom0]

This ^

[@Prof.Fun_]

I'll add to that. The only watchable male VTuber without making you feel gay or watching a thristrap (in one way or another).

[@qwertydavid8070]

I love vedal and neuro because they are unironically some of the most wholesome vtubers in the platform. Almost every other vtuber has some sexual element to them. I swear I honestly can't watch some of them. Neuro and Vedal are genuinely hilarious without relying on random shock sex humour.

[@cobaltprime9467]

Vedal’s deadpan delivery of everything is what’s great about him. And it makes moments when he shows more emotion more impactful. Like the genuine concern that Filian was gonna unalive herself from trying to boil a lava lamp. The most emotion I’ve ever seen from him. The frantic telling her to stop. Fili shouldn’t be left alone. For her own sake.

[@SyncraticLucefer]

Honestly vedal might be like the coolest guy online atm

[@GM.Nobody]

No you.

[@rwbyknightshade7290]

Does anyone else get the sibling vibe between these two? Cause thats how i see it, and its adorable!!

[@Kvikling]

I don't know if he would be entertaining completely solo, but I've yet to see a collab with him that failed to amuse me.

[@Archedgar]

1:19 I like how vedal seems genuinely offended when camila says he's entertaining but doesn't lose a step when she calls him a btch.

[@arktv213]

Feelings of inadequacy regarding being funny, fear of showing emotional vulnerability/openness Infront of other people, fear of judgement and critics from others. I could add aversion to accept compliments in order to avoid growing an unhealthy ego that could blind you from the true level of competence but I don't think Vedal is that deep.

[@sabotabo7476]

seriously tho i remember when vedal backdoored himself into the vtuber community and everyone was like "damn this guy's funny as fuck"

[@danjal87nl]

Vedal doesn't have a soft and kind exterior. He has a hard shell, but is soft on the inside. 😂

[@furorteutonicus9045]

Vedal and Neuro are the ultimate comedy duo. And Vedal is just naturally funny with his stoic attitude and comments. Also he is just real and being himself so he is relatable as hell.

[@azutsukimiya]

*spits water* NEURO-ARC?!

[@Mutualititve]

I think the ccv number don't lie, dev stream is just way more entertaining.

[@a.trance6997]

Always sweet to see Vedal perched above someone that's neither neuro or evil. It's not even the simple "i'll be above you" it's the one where Vedal's really attached to the model, lol.

[@nooneyouknow239]

Honestly, I've been watching more Vedal clips than Neuro now. He's very entertaining.

[@rhydondaddy]

cam falling for the tutel rizz

[@deste7453]

A bunch of people (me included) think Vedal's pretty cool and I think he should take that, at least.

[@jocosesonata]

1:37 Camila's compliments? Ew cringe. Chat's bullying? Based and real. He deals with insults and antagonism just fine, but give him compliments and he goes full defense mode. Typical Tsundere. Harsh and rough on the outside, hiding a softer vulnerable side. Next time, if Camila really wants to make him squirm, just bombard him with compliments. Or just any next streamer that meets him, shower him with compliments. Camila jokes that his ego doesn't need to get bigger, but from what I've seen he fucking hates it.

[@nobodywatchesnooby]

that's hella cute fr

[@JasonBoos2005]

Vedal is the goat

[@BoredToDeath11]

Vedal is fr a homie, no ai needed, but I never would've found him without it. Came for the osu ai Stayed for the tutel.

[@Sybato]

He is 100% unable to take compliments, he gets so flustered when chat is nice.

[@chaosfire321]

It's a fact from analytics that solo Neuro streams are the least popular, with her most popular content involving collabs with Vedal or other Vtubers. Man's really gotta have some confidence in himself.

[@gujyidfound]

Vedal is best AI girl streamer

[@darkshaman98]

Honestly I'd watch a solo vedal stream he's a really chill dude

[@reezwave]

We all don't want to admit it, but someone who we teased the most is usually the one who we love the most. And look who's the one that gets teased the most in this neuroverse vtuber community that vedal built subconsciously? Yes, that's right. It's vedal himself.

[@peralynth]

Vedal987 my beloved

[@GriteKidsTV]

personally i watch for vedal not neuro

[@sirteddyIII]

100% the best content is the stuff with vedal, the stream isn’t the same without the bickering between him and neuro/evil.

[@dibmuad]

Honestly I find solo streams from anyone kinda dull; but I love seeing funny people interact! Vedal and Camila are both great co-hosts; Camila is always so giggly, and Vedal's got that "straight-man who's low-key down for a little chaos"😄 And easily some of my favorite vtuber content anywhere is seeing these two hangout!

[@Slayn]

Pink haired gremlin compliments British man but he too tsundere

[@D.Mom0]

Agree, he's entertaining

[@FacundinoCalero]

Vedal is very charismatic by himself. I really stay more for the turtle than for Neuro-sama

[@mjesticfalco]

For what it’s worth, the dev streams are the only neuro streams that I reliably turn up to every week, generally without fail

[@DangerDurians]

I think Vedal is an incredible “straight-man” He works great with others for them to bounce off of

[@NymAestrell]

The nuero extended family is what keeps the engine going

[@ZeroXSEED]

I'll confess, I don't care about Neuro beyond scientific curiosity, and never humanize her as a VTuber. I only came to the Swarm because of vedal, and if he stop being the forefront I will stop watching.

[@rebether8049]

I started to watch vedal's channel because of Neuro, but right now, i mostly watching Dev streams, so Neuro and Vedal would be both there. They are the best Duo ever. Neuro hyped cuz "AI Streamer that plays the games? DAMN, I WANT TO SEE IT", but in the end, most of the people would leave this channel, but cuz Vedal was there - people stayed, cuz this sad, selfish, drunk(or British in one word) tutel is just too good.

[@TheTransientOne1]

Neuro and Vedal are like a manzai couple, with Neuro the boke and Vedal the straight man...tutel. That's why what they do works.

[@StanislavHronek]

Vedal is exactly like me when someone tells me I am smart. If you dont believe it yourself no matter what other people tell you they will not change your opinion

[@tnt551]

there are tutle only clip compilations out there, so by law tutle is entertaining

[@Kawaiikahili]

Very wholesome clip. I approve.

[@nicksyoutubechannel2632]

Vidal is just like Nuevo they both require other people to truly make them entrancing and without vedal Nuevo wouldn’t be half as big

[@someGuy-kl7cb]

its kind of suprising vedal is basically in denial of his own talent and achievements besides just coding neuro. brother, i find dev streams more interesting then neuros solo streams, and thats for a very obvious reason. would vedal be nearly as popular without neuro kickstarting his popularity? probably not, but LOTS of creators get a big break from events like that. hell, vedal raids small streamers specifically because of stuff like that happening.

[@NymAestrell]

This turtle turned an osu bot into a streamer and now pretty much has a harem, like how did he pull this off😂

[@Curseofculture]

He is entertaining though

[@Tubewatcherdude]

Vedal as far as I understand Neuro is a tool you created in order to stick out as a streamer. Every single stream with her in it is actually all you dude

[@Nahan_Boker94]

neuro and vedal is coexisting entities. Without one of them, it would be boring quick. Thats why their father daughter AI dynamic is league of their own.

[@meinesuri5703]

If i ever catch a stream it will be to watch Vedal. For me Neuro is a good adittion than the actual entertainment

[@poptya]

Neuro is hilarious, but if I had to pick between Neuro and Vedal to watch, Id watch Vedal

[@Weeb_Goblin]

My favorite vedal987 streams are dev streams and collabs. Dev streams usually introduce new upgrades, then collabs let Neuro and Evil exploit the upgrades on unsuspecting (they're probably suspecting) victims.

[@halflight8811]

honestly Vedal alone is pretty entertaining ya.

[@-weaponized6493]

I watch the plot for the turtle.

[@agentbluegaming7709]

I think vedal thinks the same way I do. Which is why I haven't ever really streamed or recorded myself much. (aside from when I was younger, but let's not talk about that rn.) I'm a lot funnier when there's someone else to bounce off of. I can say what I want to an actual person and get a genuine response, versus talking to myself in front of a camera where people try to act like trolls or have delayed reactions, etc. It's harder to do it on your own cause you have to somehow make inorganic nonsense people say and make it enjoyable to watch. I think that's why collabs are more entertaining for me and other people, it's real people just vibing around and occasionally acknowledging they are being watched by others.

[@sycariummoonshine7134]

Vedal going envy route with this one. (Rez S3 nickname applies...)

[@ImmortalLorient]

Vedal is funny when he has someone else to bounce off of. He's the perfect monotone straight man to someone else's crazy. Not just Neuro, but generally collabs. But I feel like if he had to do all his streams with just him talking to chat, he wouldn't be anywhere near as entertaining.

[@michikatsu8505]

How she convinced vedal to sit on her head? I don't have context.

[@Stereo3DProductions]

Neuro was one of the more interesting AI streams out there. The only one that kept people hooked for more than a month... but I hereby surmise that if Vedal had not hopped on to his own stream, like most AI streams neuro would have sadly fallen off. He is his own channel now. Neuro is practically his DIY sidekick. The streams where there is no one else than neuro on are more interesting because we get weekly insight into what it takes to run them. It's really proven a great formula and I hope he keeps it up!

[@regalvas]

Vedal, kind and soft. No, she was trolling while drunk as fuck

[@loopiloop]

Vedal is my Oshi. He's a great foil to the antics of the usual vtuber personalities.

[@rkade1486]

Vedal is incredibly entertaining.

[@BasedCookieLover]

I like vedal because he’ll say mean things and bully people such as Camila but get absolutely owned by his own daughter the next moment. I also like the occasional Alex and Vedal argument.

[@AiOinc1]

Well if Camila says it it must be wrong

[@_JPkun]

Both Neuro and Vedal (and Evil) are entertaining by themselves, but they are much better together than alone. Neuro and Evil get upgrades ,maintenance and fresh ideas, and Vedal gets infinite content generation to work with.

[@clowny3605]

Tbh I like vedal more then neuro, thats because I don't watch vtubers anymore. Except vedal xd

[@RyuKaguya]

Oh shit...he has imposter syndrome.

[@Daniel-nf1gq]

It's interaction that matters. Neither Vedal nor Neuro are that entertaining to watch alone (maybe Neuro is more entertaining after all) but together their synergy is way higher than just two of them combined.

[@BurBurGerHamCotCotCybercotleta]

I think Vedal is right, because he, much like many other underground streamers, has a great personality, but instead of receiving a couple thousands of loyal viewers per stream doing his own thing, he made an outrage, a breakthrough with the AI streamer idea, harboring the fame that comes with it. In the end he did indeed need Neuro for this quick popularity raise to then be able to just be himself in front of a much bigger audience

[@are3287]

Vedal continues to live in denial

[@cripwalker665]

i used to type “neurosama” back in the osu days but now I type “vedal” 😅 crazy how times change

[@FlagrareUnbound]

She is banned from complimenting him. Unfortunately vedal was born that way.

[@_newpoint_7554]

He think he not entertain but he the most hilarious streamer i know

[@samueldebele1443]

I literally only watch vtubers when vedal Collab

[@Revolution.100.]

Boke and Tsukkomi

[@EragoEntertainment]

The best streams are Dev Streams, because Vedal with his AI daughters is much more entertaining than Neuro alone.

[@Kiklty203]

Neuro is not a very good streamer alone, she isnt bad at it, but she is by no means impressive, she functions better as a complement for other streamers, Specially for vedal, if neuro wasn't as unhinged and crazy as she is and vedal wasnt as "serious" they wouldn't be as funny as they are

[@lucasbroome1048]

Camila's model looks like it came from Pucca

[@noahpilarski]

Vedal just like me frfr

[@Asra757.]

I think 70% of the 10k-11k viewers mainly watch for vedal

[@Lackesis]

Both Neuro and Evil's solo streams recently hit 6~7K CCV.

[@Okay715]

Honestly, I don’t think anyone would watch solo streams if the other didn’t appear every once in a while. Like neuro wouldn’t be as popular solo and vedal wouldn’t get popular streamer wise. I think he could create a game since he’s a programmer. But neuro and vedal need eachother to be entertaining

[@andrewgreeb916]

Neuro is a bit crazy, vedal is an absolute straight man, they bounce well off each other.

[@loafbreadizwholesomeuwu1555]

I prefer both Neuro and Vedal because of their Banters 😅😂