"Why not use a glaive?"

[@Welverin]

Because I'm not Hynra.

[@Retarded_Ape]

Then become arnyh

[@majora919]

That guy is not very good lol

[@JDB2005]

@@majora919hynra is objectively one of the best players in pvp, exclusively uses off meta, has great aim, and arguably one of the best movement based players in the game, I’m not saying he is better than wallah or buincey, but he definitely deserves respect when we are in a discussion regarding off meta especially glaives or bows

[@majora919]

@@JDB2005 going by stats he is objectively slightly above average at best, that gimmicky stuff does not work on good players, as well as his MM being quite different because of his location

[@JDB2005]

@ stats don’t really mean anything, I have a friend who is over a 3.5 in trials and used to be top 50 in rumble but I can go head to head with him in private matches, stats are more so just a measure of how much time are you willing to dedicate, not a sign of how good you actually are, otherwise, gjake would be the best player in the game, but he is objectively worse than most other pvp streamers

[@fleefie]

Man I love how goatmycakes cheers for his teammates when he sees a good play. I remember him throwing a good opportunity for a cool clip when he saw that a mate could do better a few vids back. Cheers from a glaive lover!

[@miscompile]

glaives are a really fun off-meta weapon, though i do wonder why i get more people whispering and emoting when i use enigma over elsie's + conditional...lol

[@fleefie]

People hate off-meta in general. D2 players are a hive mind for the most part, and so they look down on off-meta stuff thus raging more when being beat by it. Let it be known that they believed for years that Antaeus were fine and not fundamentally the best exotic in the game till conditional came out.

[@voidtide9618]

Some people will legit rage over getting out skilled by a glaive user over getting farmed by fusions smh

[@NaviGooseOfTheSmol]

I'd imagine they don't like the humiliation.

[@Pekeponzer]

Exactly bc it's off-meta. Off-meat means it's "not the best", so in their eyes garbage, so it infuriates when they die with meta to "garbage".

[@tylerviloria4699]

I was using a bow/glaive on pure stasis hunter earlier just to mess around, and I had a BUNCH of people bagging/shooting my body (all people using meta things)

[@shawlawrenceYT]

I used to love breaking ankles with astrocyte blink voidlock and Enigma’s. Quickplay is too sweaty for fun loadouts right now though.

[@justenbeashel]

THIS! Quickplay is almost more sweaty than comp or trials... the joy of pulling out random blue and green guns from collections just to have fun with is gone 😭☠️

[@mrinferno1571]

what a time to be alive

[@pirate_duck4985]

It's WILD! Haven't bothered with PVP outside of playing Trials a little bit with a friend. Jumped into IB for the Stasis Sidearm, jaaaaaaaysus!!!! Went from let's have a mess around to what have I gotten myself into!?

[@groovydolph]

I would do the same with that nezaracs glaive with stasis hunter cold dodge with the mask of bakris. Fun times. Tried it the other day and everyone and their moms was not having it. Too much passive play in huge hands holding groups laning with pulses

[@Sneeks416]

I *still* use this. It’s painful with how slow the pulse meta is, but I try my best to make it at least somewhat decent

[@thatguyfrominvincible]

16:51 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I am indeed looking cammy

[@LennyLeLenny]

typical crucible teammate

[@bradpoynter1776]

Rake angle chill clip is busted, it has so many pairing options, i’ve been using bxr with snapshot, its so quick and players panic when slowed its crazy

[@Mahmoud-ben-Choucroute]

That bitter sweet with bait&switch + envious arsenal 😢

[@MayorOfFlavor]

Man I don’t even play this game anymore but I still love your content. Appreciate the thoughtfulness you put in, thanks for doing it.

[@Scharrelese]

I always knew you could just give cammy a stick and he'd somehow make it work in crucible

[@joshmostposh]

It's kinda funny hoiw I've rarely put time into using the Glaive on its own, as I've been absolutely addicted to pairing it with a Bow. When you run that combo the glaive is ALWAYS the cleaup tool, so I don't need to worry about anything beyond high handling and one very consistent shot. When you use the Glaive to initiate you've got a whole lot more issues to think of, as you need to both rely on the shield more often and you need something to make that cleaup as fast as possible. I definitely should spend some more time just practicing Glaives on their own. They are a super fun weapon, I've just been too focused on them as a very specific style of cleanup weapon.

[@kristophershephard7359]

The only glaive and raid that elude me... Glaives are fantastic for an active playstyle. They blend with gun play and abilities perfectly.

[@GryphinHusky]

I found a lot of fun in using a glaive when I was cosplaying Nezarec during FotL. It's easy to catch people unaware and shank em a couple times on console.

[@TheMcK777]

I never thought about Desperate Measures on a glaive. I've always gone with my Swashbuckler Lubrae's, but I might give this a try for fun.

[@derekbaker4763]

Ngl. I went and played halo infinite for a few days and man it was sooooooo nice to just shit on kids with aim. I didnt have to worey about 40 smokes, clones, not being punsihed bcuz my teammate died to a titan melee and instantly kills me bcuz im frozen. Playing halo again made me realize just how shitty pvp is in destiny. Its sucks bcuz the shooting mechanics is amazing in destiny. But the constant ability spam, green ammo only users, super chaining, and awful campers makes the game come up short.

[@DIZZY312XLTH]

16:52 the guy falling off as you look at him is perfect 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@adamjenne1022]

Just had a blast playing like this thanks! Also experienced a bug when using invis hunter/rat king/ glaive where the enemy team couldn’t see/shoot me and I couldn’t shoot them nor capture a flag. However, I COULD glaive melee the enemy…..

[@KhârnTheAngry]

16:20 "you're gonna get deleted by 4 people on the same lane" *slug shotgun sounds intensifies*

[@Gunnar120]

Now use Ergo Sum with a wave frame and the Ticuu's perk. You don't spawn with ammo and you also don't get it from the wall, but if you get a brick from a kill, you can team wipe with it.

[@JonAlcatraz]

I’ll definitely try out glaives now, really informative video 🔥

[@TeamTechSkaters]

Cammy, I love watching your gameplay. So fluid like water. Really enjoying.

[@ryanqube9132]

Glaive + ACD feedback was something else

[@ForeverLaxx]

Rat King is still slept on, even after its visual recoil update. Thing slaps.

[@morbitorium9731]

been using the chill-clip glaive Rake Angle all season in comp and it’s so fun 😂

[@fplgregfrost]

That delete at the end! 😮

[@tipiak]

I'm looking for this godroll for weeks and weeks, endless onslaught runs and tonics... Cammy dismantled it without blinking

[@TheSwayzeTrain]

This was a great watch, you were popping off with that Glaive and the rat

[@blackstreak02]

spicy glaive gameplay. Cammy the savior of meta

[@JoshuaDonnieBuller]

Glaives with Wings of sacred dawn is my favorite way to play the game.

[@stomp9603]

Glaives are much better at handling specifically precision based weapons, for example sniper rifles, scout rifles, handcannons, hell even pulse rifles and slug shotguns. Stuff that doesn't need headshots heavily counter glaives- fusions and pellet shotguns, as well as SMGs and sidearms. So generally speaking they have a small place in the meta, but are really situational unless you can place yourself in the perfect spots every single fight.

[@kenrocker7427]

I only play glaive when it’s just time to do something not so serious in pvp. That being said, iron banner is a perfect place to play party mode glaive. I really prefer swash on glaive for this reason - just for highlights or montages. Swash X 5 makes it fun to 1-hit with the projectile, and you rarely lose a duel with the melee once it’s rolling. I like to pair it with a medium range weapon like an auto rifle or pulse depending on the map. Sometimes I go all in on short range and use smg or sidearm. Khostov is an amazing pairing because it’s a little too strong.

[@BlastbeaterPT]

Truly the perfect environment to test glaives 😂😂

[@rhn4710]

Defo a fun loadout in low skill brackets. I still run bow glaive which I think is more consistent and there is a huge advantage with the stasis glaive, you just need to learn how to instaswap from bow to glaive, which is not really easy. I can't but appreciate the effort to find niche builds that are just fun and threat the game as a sandbox rather than a minmaxing wank

[@herrprofdralbert6844]

"JuSt uSe ExPlOsIvE pErSoNaLiTy"

[@regal-27]

ooo those are some clean glaive shots, very nice

[@OsamonGaming]

glaives are just flat out fun

[@damianz1469]

Use omnioculus and enigma, unironically became a invisible terrorist and it’s hilarious

[@TheDeath0fDucks]

Me and my mate run glaives in Iron Banner, we both run blink on prismatic, then we just bum rush people and stab them to death. It doesn't even work that well but people soon start switching their loadouts/playstyle just to counter us lmao

[@severex9851]

I'd really like to see all the I win buttons cleaned up before the devs move on. Shiver strike, electro slide, lance ect. Just a small Nerf something that doesn't make pushing a button give you the win.

[@nerdherder9340]

I feel like glaives are balanced for a sandbox that doesnt exist. I dont know why id use them for a swap build over a nade launcher, dont know why id joust with them over a slug or fusion, and they aren’t useful against the meta primary weapons at range

[@joshuabower219]

I use a glave in combination with sweet business, and it works really well (when I can hit something)

[@voidtide9618]

I used a glaive this week in ib and it was the most fun I had all season

[@celestialsolar4155]

Not cammy making me want to continue suffering(i can go off sometimes)with the murder stick No but fr I gotta try the mechaneer and lucky pants setups I really love glaives

[@Retarded_Ape]

18:41 did he move midair by swinging with a glaive or am i seeing things

[@MinoogWasTaken]

So nobody’s gonna talk about him dismantling that godroll Bitter/Sweet?

[@Nvyingme]

gotta give antaeus on prism a try with this actually might be the king jousting loadout since you can still thrust after the shield block and make a diamond lance after a chill clip 2 tap

[@sleepykermitthehermit6109]

Unless they shoot the Antaeus shield cause that eats your class ability so no thruster afterwards.

[@celsonjunior9376]

closing time should go back to not working if youre at 0 ammo, as its closed, right?

[@thessaloniousbadonkious]

Cammy, you playing on console now, or just on a controller kick?

[@arjunbaweja7755]

DUDE THIS MY BUILD BUT WITH CHAOS RESHAPED FOR DISRUPTION BREAK I AM SO CLOSE TO SEEING SOMEONE ELSE USE IT

[@biggducc9070]

Would your old titan glaive build still work. The one with peacekeepers.

[@Jusard]

I've been using survivor epitaph with Edge of con hunter glaive! So off meta an just really fun!!!

[@Ozz465]

No wonder ive seen a few more glaives last night .

[@ChessKing151]

Glaive content good

[@I-am-Ranb0]

What’s the state of PVP now? I’ve not played in about 18 months

[@tvia]

It's there.

[@xenoonex6028]

Mostly You'll either see people taking advantage of Special weapons and ping, or you'll see pulses and scouts in the back of the map hiding from the specials and ping

[@Samsonfs]

Might be the worst it's ever been outside of right after TFS launched.

[@thatsprettygood9613]

Pussies sitting in spawn & holding angles with pulse rifles. Matches be taking forever now if it isn't a mercy

[@Fatlumpthe1st]

Not as good as pre-FS but it's not that bad. The meta has shifted to favouring long range primaries because special weapons run rampant (again) and there are a few annoying class/ability outliers as always... so basically it's still D2 PvP. As always, it has it's pros and cons. Primary weapon balance is really good though with the exception of 340 and two burst pulses being a bit too strong. And we got I think 4 new maps and a couple returning ones over the last 18 months if I remember right.

[@soulx-pb5lk]

I still keed to do this. I need to be part of a dedicated clan. I have done every raid but this one. That 4th encounter with two rooms has killed so many runs for me.

[@Silencers]

Ran a few games with bakris and rake angle. Good times

[@Vitamac]

Hmm, did you calculate glaive block + 8x frost armor?

[@SharkBGames]

Bro!!! your teammates on the last match 💀💀💀

[@retroelectrical]

Glaives SUCK in pvp now for the primary reason that melees are totally broken. It is sooo annoying to be beating the shite out of someone with a glaive only for them to just punch you once with an uncharged melee and kill you instantly.

[@sirfeint6302]

That one guy with Divinity (Me)

[@TyWarn-r7j]

Saw someone running the disruption break bow and rat king on invis with trick sleaves.. he went 43-0

[@JasonNye-h3s]

16:50 😂😂😂

[@awesomnator23]

what about the ghost of the deep glaive with disruption break?

[@Adam-tu1qx]

Im a glaive main but i just cant get behind the rapids. Aggressive glaives guaranteed 1 shot + 1 melee is just so much more reliable.

[@Nuclxrs]

Guard brother Guard!!!!! 😢

[@MowJoeJoJo]

Dismantling Envious Arsenal/ Bait n Switch because you weren’t paying attention… it’s killing me. 😢

[@xthecre8or735]

I think 5 resil is minimum to not get 5c1b by 340 pulse

[@JQDeathFromAbove96]

Hunters in PvP are PANZIES!!!!!!

[@lonbordin]

Why not Rat King on Titan?

[@thepurpdoesthework]

Hoooollldd on I though u needed 50 resil to survive the adaptive pulse 2 bust? Its only 40?!? really? I need to know. Cuz if so thats HUGE for my stats.

[@sovl2178]

Why are people being rewarded for maining special weapons? They can pick up special ammo on the ground or just get their free ammo crate

[@sovl2178]

The special ammo transmat system was the fairest and best one

[@Reptilian8553]

i got 1800 kills on my trials glave i have so much fun whit it

[@decado67]

Did he just delete a god roll bitter/sweet o.0

[@pray4myko411]

the biggest enemy to glaives are shotguns, and to be honest, i feel like bungie should seriously and heavly nerf shotguns for one reason... they are the META weapon class since d1. its soooooo fucking boring. at least for a season or something.

[@DirePromiseHighCal]

Because they suck

[@meatball5598]

20 seconds ago, oops

[@ttambm8639]

I might be in the minority but I’m glad glaives aren’t meta in crucible. I think there should be things that are PVE specific. I hope they never become meta.

[@HighFiveGhostenjoyer428]

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