Camshaft info. Why I think more lift is better.

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Eric Weingartner

Eric Weingartner

2 жыл бұрын

I don't go over everything but I do give you some info about two camshafts that I had analyzed.

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@FreakOlds
@FreakOlds 2 жыл бұрын
All of your videos are great. Thank you for sharing all of this information. I’m never too old to learn, as a matter of fact, I’m always eager to learn more. Keep them coming. You’ve got some of the best content here on KZbin. Thanks again for sharing 😉👍
@randyjohnson1809
@randyjohnson1809 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing all the information with us I have learned alot from watching your channel I love all the detail you go into! I am a drag racer also and I am always trying to improve my engine performance you have helped me to understand how it all works to make a engine run better. thanks again!
@mickcnd2657
@mickcnd2657 2 жыл бұрын
Great information. Camshafts are a mystical and mythical thing to most people. What you have laid out here demonstrates the need for knowledgeable professional people to help in any project big or small. Awesome. Keep up the good work.
@65mustang393
@65mustang393 2 жыл бұрын
For the folks that might think this video is rudimentary in nature, remember who the target audience is. People who are interested in hot rodding (and perhaps spending a few dollars) but who also have a lot of competing interests in their family budget… Videos like this keep the interest up and keep the money flowing into the hobby and help all of us who provide some type of engine improvement service. Keep up the good work Eric.
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 2 жыл бұрын
That is the purpose of cam tech lines. Give a good recommendation for our HONEST input. 👍
@supercharged6771
@supercharged6771 2 жыл бұрын
Great introduction, I feel if people roled up their sleeves got to know how the numbers work make a few phone calls it would really help know what they are getting and know who's blowing smoke, great video
@rodneymeade9147
@rodneymeade9147 2 жыл бұрын
Eric I feel that was your best video I've seen, I get the numbers. Thanks for sharing.
@Dr_Xyzt
@Dr_Xyzt 2 жыл бұрын
I looked at cams differently once I made a cardioid equation for cams. You mentioned things that directly reflect what I got out of the situation. A main takeaway I got was the shape of the power curve. That made it easier to plan simpler builds that don't even rev higher than stock, but still run great. Life don't have to be so complicated.
@stuartbuckley8720
@stuartbuckley8720 2 жыл бұрын
Cool, I have been thinking along the same lines but you have cleared things up further. Cant wait for the next video.
@dennisschmitter7310
@dennisschmitter7310 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative!! Thanks for this! Really makes me rethink alot of my future builds.
@richardhood3865
@richardhood3865 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your simplification of complicated topics. I've learned more about cams in general than I have in yrs of guessing what there talking about
@boogerfarmer
@boogerfarmer 2 жыл бұрын
David vizard has a method to select the proper camshaft instead of guessing, if anyone is interested.
@michaelparadisis4076
@michaelparadisis4076 Жыл бұрын
What’s David’s method ?
@sniperpronerfmods9811
@sniperpronerfmods9811 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelparadisis4076 128
@shanehall7833
@shanehall7833 Жыл бұрын
I’m interested, where do I find info
@sniperpronerfmods9811
@sniperpronerfmods9811 Жыл бұрын
@@shanehall7833 go to David vizard KZbin channel
@danielmauter1737
@danielmauter1737 Жыл бұрын
Eric!!!.. Excellent as ALWAYS!!. LOVED IT!!!... No such thing as too much for me!!.. I suck it up like sponge!!.. 55 years doing this!!. Always learning something new!!.
@WeingartnerRacing
@WeingartnerRacing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@MBodyCoupe
@MBodyCoupe 2 жыл бұрын
Good review of the key concepts, told in a way that those who may not be so "eye-balls deep" in this stuff will readily understand. I will tell you this, nothing frustrates me more than calling a cam company wanting to have a technical conversation (along the lines Eric explained here) and instead it feeling like I just ran into a brick wall: no desire to talk tech, no ability to do so, and instead it appears to be primairly a SALES pitch they want to do!!! Thanks Eric, good stuff...go deep on the techie stuff next!!!
@theupscriber65
@theupscriber65 Жыл бұрын
Good video. I used to be a camshaft engineer for an OEM. We used an Adcole brand cam inspection machine but CMMs were coming onto the scene and able to do just about everything the specialized machine could do.
@bdugle1
@bdugle1 2 жыл бұрын
I started studying cams after picking one for my motorcycle back in 2005. I wanted a good street engine and picked a cam advertised to meet my needs, I thought. The engine was a 4-cam Harley (Sportster) that I bored from 883 to 1250, courtesy of a 3-9/16” bore. The cam had 256° intake duration at 0.050” and 0.493” lift at the valve. With the heads I switched to, it made power at 6000, about 84 hp at the wheel, and flat torque curve between 4-5000 rpm. This was about double the original 883 power, but nothing like what others got from modified Sportsters. Your point about lift is what I missed on that cam selection. A few years later, and after studying for a while, I went a totally different way on cams for my 103 Twin Cam, a Woods 222. With a 103° intake centerline, this has an intake closing of 34°, way shorter than that Sportster cam. I don’t remember the exact numbers for the “493” cam, but it was probably around 99° intake CL, or 47° IC ABDC. Typically an under square engine, smaller bore than stroke, is going to need more duration than one with more area, relatively, on top of the piston. The Twin Cam is bigger, 3.875x4.375 compared to 3.563x3.813, but the heads flow more and the lift is 0.575”, a lot more. Both are small bore engines. The Twin Cam gets to 100 lb-ft of torque at the wheel at about 2500 rpm and stays there to 4500 or so, with a max of 104. The horsepower peak is around 5700. Overall it’s very strong for street riding for a 900 lb bike. Not a competition machine by any means! So, you ask, what has that got to do with V8s? Based on my limited experience and some study, the significant numbers for cam selection are valve lift, intake closing (IC), and overlap. In this video, Eric mentioned 100° intake centerline on a cam with 240° intake duration, about 104° LSA, and almost 0.650” lift. Intake closing can be easily computed from duration and centerline as 240 divided by 2 plus centerline minus 180, or 240/2=120, 120+100=220, 220-180=40, which means IC is at 40° ABDC. If the new cam is installed 4° advanced as well, it’s intake centerline will be at 104, so 248/2=124, 124+104=228, and 228-180=48 for intake closing, substantially more. With another 0.100” or so of lift, this cam is going to make a lot more top end than the Engine Masters cam, which had a different purpose (and limitations). Overlap is the other significant variable. It is also fairly simple to compute given duration at 0.050 for both intake and exhaust lobes and LSA. Intake opening BTDC is (for the old cam) 240/2=120, 120-100=20 and exhaust closing is 246/2=123, 123-108=15 ATDC, or 35° of overlap at 0.050” tappet lift. Note the LSA comes in as intake centerline is advanced from LSA (a lower number), exhaust centerline moves the other way (bigger number). The new cam, with a bit more LSA and longer duration computes as 248/2=124, 124-104=20 BTDC and 253/2=126.5, 126.5-112=14.5 ATDC, or nearly identical overlap to the earlier cam. Eric has real world experience picking cams for himself and customers, and it sounds like he is way better than average at speccing them, despite his claims. The heart of any engine is based on heads, cam and intake (mostly effective runner length) performance. Watchers could do themselves a favor listening to him! Eric, you have a great channel here, thanks!
@luckyPiston
@luckyPiston 2 жыл бұрын
So if you've got your intake and exhaust set up to work with a certain amount of overlap you don't want to mess with that when your making a cam change or if you do you would want to be aware of how much and if you're shifting it forward or backwards.
@bdugle1
@bdugle1 2 жыл бұрын
@@luckyPiston Most people quote intake duration and LSA to describe a cam. Brian Tooley said once that the valve events need to be what they need to be, or some words to that effect. Looking at his cams, I find that the overlap is often symmetrical, at least for LS engines. If you’re trying to get power out of the overlap event, that makes sense to me. The amount of overlap needed is generally a function of displacement vs cylinder head effectiveness, with bigger engines needing more. The more aggressive the cam (or the higher the rpm range), the more overlap as well. My motorcycle engines, being relatively small bore/long stroke, needed LOTS of overlap while the LS with its great breathing needs less. Overlap is bad for idle quality and somewhat for emissions, but makes a big difference in mid-range torque. That’s why Holdener’s cam comparisons sometimes show more torque through the entire rpm range he tests. Factory cams typically have none, thus the poor torque curve comparison. Eric seems to have figured the ideal amount of overlap for his engine and specced a cam that changed only the other end of each valve event. Sorry for the windy reply…
@luckyPiston
@luckyPiston 2 жыл бұрын
@@bdugle1 No worries, Some good points there, interesting how a stroker likes more OL, my first thought is piston dwell time with the stroker is longer so why more OL and not less ? So what are your thoughts on dual pattern cams. I think they hurt power down low yet they are the predominant choice. Even when specing an engine that has plenty of exhaust flow people are still running dual pattern (in a street engine this makes no sense) my thought is with so many new heads on the market with improved exhaust you would think you would see more single pattern profiles. No one ever talks about how hot exhaust gas flows waaay better than what is in the cooler intake tract ? Density is enough of a factor that we have to correct for weather on our flow bench to get repeatability yet its never mentioned with gas exiting an engine.
@bdugle1
@bdugle1 2 жыл бұрын
@@luckyPiston I picked a cam for my 6.0 with strong street manners in mind, but I don’t claim to be an expert in selecting one for any combination. I have picked up a lot of general rules since starting to study cams in the last 15 or 20 years, however. I know a under-square engine is going to need more duration and more overlap, but picking precise numbers for a particular application for someone else is something I would not attempt. As far as dual pattern cams-I think most applications seem to like them but single pattern cams can work well, too. The Comp 459 and 469 cams have the same intake lobe but the rec port cam (469) has more exhaust duration. The 459 is reported to have a better idle while the 469 has a slight edge at the top when compared in the same engine (from watching Holdener videos, basically). The SS2 cam has much shorter exhaust duration, near single pattern, and shows a strong torque curve all across the dyno graph. That supports your feeling that a single pattern cam has a place, even though it doesn’t make the top end of the bigger cams. If you’re running a 5.3 or 6.0 it could be a really good choice. I’d say especially if turbocharged. I guess my rules would be get an expert’s recommendation on overlap, look for the highest lift you can get given the heads and valve train, and pick an intake closing point based on usage, displacement, and breathing limitations. Big BBCs need lots of duration while SBCs need moderate duration in the 355-383 size range. LSs need even less due to better stock heads. My Twin Cam bike cams intake close is at 34° which gives me a really strong low end. My LS cam has an intake valve closing of 42° which will run the power peak on a 6.0 out to low-to-mid 6000s. You undoubtedly have your own preferences for your engine. I know a lot more now than when running a 301 and a 327 in a C Gas dragster back in the 60s. There’s still lots to learn though!
@FatBoy7.3Powerstroke
@FatBoy7.3Powerstroke 2 ай бұрын
I think I’m from outer space but I do like reading and learning from these videos
@MM-vl8ic
@MM-vl8ic Жыл бұрын
Good Job..... You just confirmed what I was doing 2.5 plus decades ago.....
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 2 жыл бұрын
🔔😎😁 I was hoping for more explanation of why 600 lift works better for a head flow that tops out at 500 lift. More area under the curve. Thanks for your time and thoroughness.👍👍😎😎
@Rome3aaro
@Rome3aaro Жыл бұрын
I like the way u explain that more left concept.. I really get it
@foghornleghorn8536
@foghornleghorn8536 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you.
@drewstevens2244
@drewstevens2244 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much for your videos. I made a comment on your other video before finding this one. What i now know in comparison to what i still have to learn about my 4.0 straight 6 for my jeep has told me a lot of how much i dont know. I want to build it to be a 4.6L with a small turbo to get to an easy 325 to 350 hp which is relatively considering very high end builds have kicked out 300hp naturally aspirated. I want my motor to of course have more power but also have good longevity.
@mikes9939
@mikes9939 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, we enjoy hearing your opinion about these things. Do as many videos as you wish for any subject that you wish to cover. We will tough it through them with a smile on our faces. Getting good knowledge and information is not easy to get so we like to hear all we can. Besides we also feel that you may know a thing more than we do. I know a lot but I don't know everything so I listen to everyone and separate the good from the bad. This is how you learn.
@vehdynam
@vehdynam Жыл бұрын
Great informtion ; helps to make sense of the camshaft debate.
@williamhenk1030
@williamhenk1030 Жыл бұрын
Best cam video I’ve ever seen. We think alike. Don’t know how I missed this one I am a subscriber? Either way I am convinced you have a good head on your shoulders. Love profile is a major factor!
@kellyjones334
@kellyjones334 Жыл бұрын
Great video. It was well worth the time watching it.
@WeingartnerRacing
@WeingartnerRacing Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Redneckairflow
@Redneckairflow 2 жыл бұрын
For visual people like me I think comparing the 2 lobes of lift vs duration would be easier to understand in a graph format. But this explained so much that I never truly understood in it's full context. It makes alot more sense now
@ezmny1387
@ezmny1387 Жыл бұрын
i love this video because im constantly saying "you cant afford any more". every time someone says they dont "need" more lift this is exactly why
@mikemaness6804
@mikemaness6804 2 жыл бұрын
excellent video. I didn't know I could run more lift if my lsa was higher.
@frozenstang3868
@frozenstang3868 2 жыл бұрын
I used a bronze gear on my Cleveland and it wore out pretty quick. i have a sintered iron gear i think and i check it periodically and its fine after 10 yrs on a comp roller hydraulic.
@kdeupser
@kdeupser 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content!
@andysmith3843
@andysmith3843 Жыл бұрын
Cheers for shearing your knowledge im about to set to clean up my Harley heads at this stage casting imperfections ive not done much in this kind of thing before but i cant stop watching your vids if you have any knowledge on twin cam heads witch im sure you just use you years of experience so just another set of heads anyway any information wouldn't go to wast i appreciate the time and effort you go through to make these vids for guys like myself to watch and learn from in many ways.
@spudthompson1414
@spudthompson1414 Жыл бұрын
You are making me wish I was younger to be able to play with the new equipment they have out there I am kidding I did pretty good with my cam choices and motor building. ☺️
@Matt44magnum44
@Matt44magnum44 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on opening and closing of the intake and exhaust! I’ve been reading that IVC is typical in range of 50-60* for better cylinder filling (of course you have to compensate your compression ratio for it too since it closes later) and typical exhaust valve closing is 5-10* for good exhaust scavenging (of course lots of cams are higher than that due to lsa) would be such a cool video
@RabeHighPerformance
@RabeHighPerformance 7 ай бұрын
According to David Vizard for sbc used 128 formula 128-C.I.D/8/Intake valve x.91. this formula is sbc V8 with 10.0:1-10.5:1 to find the optimal lsa for sbc v8
@williamstel9330
@williamstel9330 Жыл бұрын
I've learned a lot wow what a class.
@jimmy_olds
@jimmy_olds Жыл бұрын
I’m an Olds guy, I had a custom grind done for my current 455 build and kept an Olds friendly low lift spec. The heads were opened up to accept the “big” big block Olds valves along with some basic cleanup in the bowls and runners. I kept the lift low because the heads just don’t flow much above .500 so it seemed like needless stress (and expense) on the valvetrain. But I’m sure the quality of builds your doing far, far exceed the dinosaurs I’m messing around with. Great video, certainly quality food for thought.
@ronniecox109
@ronniecox109 7 ай бұрын
W-30 cam is a goood street cam
@user-zu2ed6ye5w
@user-zu2ed6ye5w 28 күн бұрын
Learned a lot this time !
@curvs4me
@curvs4me Жыл бұрын
This is great info. Banks killing a Duramax represents the concept visually with the cam duration and lift overlayed with the flow curves. Interestingly enough, stock Duramax LMM lift exceeds head flow resulting in a flow curve that has the top cut off. Instead of a moment at X CFM it's holding X CFM for so many degrees of rotation. Much more air with the same duration. Especially when holding cylinder head max flow for a time. The flow curve almost looks like a square wave.
@justanobserver530
@justanobserver530 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial on cams! I have always relied on cam companies recommendations and they never really gave the best advice. I have to admit however, Bullet gave me a cam that made incredibly more power per same engine builds. The problem was it was not streetable.....for a street build.
@groomlake51
@groomlake51 Жыл бұрын
AWSOME content🦾😎 I was playing around with a piston velocity calculator a few weeks ago. Thinking about 500” Blown Fuel Hemi’s . Looking at a 4.5” stroke 7.017” Rod @8,200. I was looking at velocity’s as crank angle increased and I noticed maximum velocity was @ 74 degrees ADTC. I wrongly assumed it should of been in and out if 90🥸. Because cylinder pressure only starts to translate to rotational force on the crank around 15-20 degrees ATDC and the piston really starts to slow down so early around 80* ATDC. I started thinking about the ideal Ex valve opening event. As far as crank angle when it starts to move off the seat… for the crazy characteristics of Nitro🙏🏻. It’s like really really early. No wonder we move 5 gallons of fuel a second and make 10’ header flames. So I would love your take on a valve moving off the seat video. I really love information and knowledge. Most of the smartest guys in racing I know are very humble. The smarter one gets the less he thinks he knows because the finish line keeps getting farther away the faster we go. It’s the epitome of the saying “ you don’t know what you don’t know”🤦‍♂️
@icanfix1
@icanfix1 Жыл бұрын
I bet a lot of gearheads felt this video to be too shot! I really enjoyed it and gained a little knowledge as well.
@jimkillen1065
@jimkillen1065 2 жыл бұрын
Many years ago and that was when I was like in my early 20s I had built a engine it was just a mix of parts that I came up with , heads of a g gas car , used billet steel roller isky cam . The engine ran ok and I called I think his name was T Willy and he told me I need about 20 deg less duration and could use more lift . One thing I did was try using different lash setting to change the way the engine ran . Of course there are limits .Thanks for the videos
@DSRE535
@DSRE535 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear the valve events, you won't lose everyone in here
@oldcarguy6863
@oldcarguy6863 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thanks
@mikew6135
@mikew6135 Жыл бұрын
Nice points made here. Never looked at it as having more lift in the prime power making range. Good stuff. I've got a Hellcat and the cams usually make minimal gains and I think it is because of what you have said. They need more lift and less duration and be ground on a tighter angle. They are all wide and that usually results in weak low and midrange torque and even less top end if the motor likes the tighter grind such as a 108lsa or maybe conservative 110.
@WeingartnerRacing
@WeingartnerRacing Жыл бұрын
Hemi engines are a bit different because the valves can hit each other if the overlap is too much. Also hemi heads need different cam timing events because of how the exhaust can pull out intake charge easier.
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who gets it. Lift, lift, lift... Lift is EVERYTHING!
@cconrancconran3991
@cconrancconran3991 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation
@WeingartnerRacing
@WeingartnerRacing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@ocam988able
@ocam988able 7 ай бұрын
Great information
@mikedonzero2692
@mikedonzero2692 Жыл бұрын
Well done Eric.
@WeingartnerRacing
@WeingartnerRacing Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jcnpresser
@jcnpresser 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative 👍
@vwdarrin
@vwdarrin 2 жыл бұрын
great video
@3800TURBO
@3800TURBO 2 жыл бұрын
Those comp bushed shaft rockers for LS are great. Seen a few guys now up near .700 on them.
@curvs4me
@curvs4me 2 жыл бұрын
Eric, you can say that higher lift gives you a flat top lobe. Meaning the head gets to peak flow faster and stays there literally flat across the lobe until lift goes below peak flow lift. In a flow graph which you should draw, makes it soooo much easier to explain, the flow duration graph will climb to peak and stay flat at peak flow for X duration. In the time flow is flat the lobe is lifting and coming over the nose and dropping until lift is below peak. Bam, flat top graph.
@ronbo422
@ronbo422 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying your vids, Eric. At 55 years of age I never tire of learning new things, especially about engines. I used to know a lot of "car math", able to quote formulas and such. I knew there was an art to cylinder heads and camshaft selection and often wondered how the guys at Comp would come up with their recommendations. It seems that they should've been asking more about low-to-mid lift flow numbers, instead of the box question..."What do the heads flow?". I knew the two were attached, but you just explained how. Keep 'em coming. BTW, I'm very interested in your next vid. I'm definitely curious about why the carb times were much faster than the EFI times. My hunch says it's related to CFM, specifically more is what that engine was begging for. 😛
@mikedonzero2692
@mikedonzero2692 Жыл бұрын
Maximum piston speed is usually around 75 to 77 degrees sfter tdc & this also will be in the midlife range of the flow curve.
@superkillr
@superkillr 2 жыл бұрын
The "you don't need more than .600 lift" is a direct quote of another cam video I watched to see what was being said. I can't imagine it's coincidence.
@65mustang393
@65mustang393 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@hermanmunster5831
@hermanmunster5831 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting Great video 👍👍🙏🙏
@jerrellkull5347
@jerrellkull5347 2 жыл бұрын
Run a Monel gear on the distributor, and never worry about it. And on a further note, i would watch a 4hr video from you on camshafts.
@thomaslockley945
@thomaslockley945 Жыл бұрын
Great video I learned alot is the second video out an also think u should do a rocker ratio video...I'm gonna watch this video a few times but great information
@WeingartnerRacing
@WeingartnerRacing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@brendentosto5640
@brendentosto5640 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do an in depth video on the valve events and what they effect. I’ve got a general idea but would like to learn more
@user-id9ft8qv4x
@user-id9ft8qv4x 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for video!
@smilsmff
@smilsmff 4 ай бұрын
yes using a Dynamic compression calcultor before you purchace off the shelf comp cams. Mine sounds great but is a pooch , the intake is 68 ABDC. and my compression is 10.2 mech. dynamically around 7.99
@devanbraley1846
@devanbraley1846 Жыл бұрын
E. I'm a new suber here, man I'm looking to upgrade my cam , what would be a effective choice as far as 411 gears , Maxx series promaxx heads which are sbc 183 /64 chamber btw I love the cylinder heads the company make best 1300 Ive spent tho the upgraded 411 posi was the most effective upgrade so far , and what do you know about Lunati cams? Or comp which would do good for my engine ?
@JC-gw3yo
@JC-gw3yo Жыл бұрын
True on the turd cams. I remember drinking the GM kool aid with their factory hot rod cams for small blocks. Their cams were all about lots of duration and moderate lift. Was supposed to be for road racing. The engine just felt spongy. Changed out to an aftermarket cam. and the Z-28 came to life. The cam made all the difference...
@shootermcgavin2819
@shootermcgavin2819 Жыл бұрын
Especially with closed chamber heads. Need a lot of lift to unshroud the valves.
@marthamryglod291
@marthamryglod291 2 жыл бұрын
The most lift and the correct overlap for the application is what I read in Vizard's books. He says duration is determined by the correct spec of LSA, LCA and something else I can't remember. But, once you have the correct numbers, duration is already locked in.
@davidbilliter5619
@davidbilliter5619 Жыл бұрын
My favorite vid from you so far. We just say it different.......I say " less duration if you have good head flow " , you say more lift.....end product is the same.... shorter durations for the lift. I've had great luck with aggressive lift to duration ratios .
@CK-mf6du
@CK-mf6du 8 ай бұрын
I'm with ya. Would you agree it's only as good as your head flows? After a certain lift with low performance heads won't it become parasitic?
@seancollins9745
@seancollins9745 2 жыл бұрын
I try to get the most amount duration at 100 200 300 400 lift given mechanical limitations etc. Lobe selection is absolutely critical. It's also very application specific. A good road course camshaft is not always a good dragstrip camshaft.
@MichaelBrown-um8qc
@MichaelBrown-um8qc 2 жыл бұрын
Your camero cam grind builds cylinder pressure also because no scavenger lift in it. I feel like a kid again brother 🥂🏁
@jaredshoemaker9196
@jaredshoemaker9196 2 жыл бұрын
Do you do camshaft recommendations? I am going to build sbc bracket racing engine. 406ci, 10.5:1 compression, AFR 210 Competition ported heads, supposedly flow 322cfm @.650 lift, super victor intake, solid lift roller camshaft. What cam specs would you recommend?
@jeffmcphail5586
@jeffmcphail5586 2 жыл бұрын
Please keep talking.. or do as many videos as you wish.. very informative..👍
@craigmatthews5887
@craigmatthews5887 2 жыл бұрын
Is the lobe area calculated on Adv or @0.05? the intake lobe on the new cam is a lot softer than teh ex of the old cam.
@DiscoGreen
@DiscoGreen Жыл бұрын
I am running 7.13 with a home built 406 with 220 Flotek CNC heads and a 292 schneider cam that everyone said was too small and would be a dog... 238/242@.050 at 108 with 622 lift and 11_1 people all think I have a solid cam from the sound. (Howards race HR lifters). I have spun it to 6800 and it still is pulling HARD and some day I'll set the 6al to 7k and see if I can get a better ET.
@68nitrostang
@68nitrostang 2 жыл бұрын
Eric , I watched your video here . Can you cover “ time spent “ up the lobe and down the lobe “ and where the lifter spends most of the time vs motor piston cfm demand
@MichaelBrown-um8qc
@MichaelBrown-um8qc 2 жыл бұрын
I always felt & saw , better tourque in "Lift" saves time filling jugs❣️
@rustysausage69
@rustysausage69 2 жыл бұрын
Any way I think about it, I'll pretty much always circle back to agreeing with your first statement. The only response I have to it is I don't think people should be buying induction system parts on their combos for the SOLE PURPOSE of making up for and taking up the slack of other induction parts, because that's a recipe for not being satisfied with it's performance in the future.
@GTRliffe
@GTRliffe Жыл бұрын
You said it-most guys shy from lift is valve train stress (especially street)
@billythebake
@billythebake 2 жыл бұрын
Back when everybody was running ported 906 & 452 heads, a lot of pundits in the big block Mopar arena would always say that you don't need lift with a big inch mopar, because the intake ports "nose over" and quit gaining flow (or even lose flow) at a very modest lift level. But, the guys who ran super stock class drag engines commonly ran cams over .700" lift... *THEY* sure as hell weren't going to try to be competitive with a low lift cam
@thenewBH
@thenewBH 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, you can port, weld, and epoxy SS heads...
@b.c4066
@b.c4066 2 жыл бұрын
But they also didn't/don't care if it wiped out the springs/lifters, and valves. Winning was priority, not any meaningful reliability. Safe to say the majority of Eric's audience is street, some strip use or sportsman racing on a limited budget, so making max power is not the only criteria for valvetrain setup, they also need it to last a season or two of racing, or 15-25k on the street with only lash adjustment and normal maintenance.
@billythebake
@billythebake 2 жыл бұрын
@@thenewBH I don't remember if you could back in the 1970s and 1980s. I mean, now you can, but I'm not sure you could back in the day. The only guy I knew who ran superstock was in the 1990s, and we didn't talk about his cylinder heads much. I was under the impression that they were supposed to be limited in what was allowed..
@panthermadness4232
@panthermadness4232 4 ай бұрын
With using a stronger spring for more lift, does this not take more power from the crank/cam to compress in general?
@crazyDIYguy
@crazyDIYguy 3 ай бұрын
So if you have stock cams on a DOHC head, can you degree both your intake and your exhaust cams away from each other with more lobe separation for low end torque? In general?
@mcbridemotorsports5788
@mcbridemotorsports5788 2 жыл бұрын
I always and I mean ALWAYS! Go with what Cam Shaft/Spec my Porter Recommends with their heads after explaining to them my goals.
@TheJohndeere466
@TheJohndeere466 Жыл бұрын
We just dynoed our diesel pulling tractor engine. It put out right at 1200 hp and 2200 ft lbs torque but we only pulled it down to 2800 rpm and the torque was still climbing so it had more to go. I know you dont usually work on diesels but do you think more rocker ratio would make more power. They are only 1.6 ratio now.
@johnmartinii77
@johnmartinii77 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a new cam for a boss 351 build. I had to choose between two good cams. I went with the one with a few less degrees @ .050 but had about .040 more lift overall. Lsa was 2 degrees wider but I'm told that should help with the huge boss ports. After this video, I feel I've probably made a good choice.
@musclebone7875
@musclebone7875 2 жыл бұрын
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@-Atrocious
@-Atrocious 2 жыл бұрын
What lsa did you end up with just curious?
@johnmartinii77
@johnmartinii77 2 жыл бұрын
@@-Atrocious I went with a 110° lsa and 4 degrees advance. I built a Windsor years back and used a 106 and it loved it but the Cleveland is such a different animal.
@utahcountypicazospage5412
@utahcountypicazospage5412 Жыл бұрын
I have a question with boost. lift isn’t as important since air is being pushed in instead of sucked in like NA so NA lift would be more crucial?
@randykubick
@randykubick 7 ай бұрын
So what u r saying is if i want more hp and i can only chose bigger diameter valves or greater valve lift figure out how to open my valves further with either a bigger cam or greater rocker arm ratios?
@rogerowens5669
@rogerowens5669 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely salesmen are salesman I want what works in the real world I'm a numbers kind of guy I know we've all heard this but knowledge is power
@josephlemieux5981
@josephlemieux5981 2 ай бұрын
On cams, if someone says they have a 488 lift with 290 duration are they referring to the intake or exhaust numbers, or is there an aggregate number?
@anthonysayle7409
@anthonysayle7409 Жыл бұрын
Thinking about isky flattap hydraulic .510/.505 in a 383 with sportsman heads
@nikitaturboboy
@nikitaturboboy 2 жыл бұрын
I have always seen for how much valve lift is based around the valve diameter and The valve seat angle the steeper the seat angle like 45-50° you would have more left almost half of the Valve diameter. If you’re running 25 to 30° you would run less lift.
@davidvonanderseck8649
@davidvonanderseck8649 Жыл бұрын
Question. I built a 468 for my Camaro. AFR enforcer heads victor jr and comp big mother thumper on e85 It in a 74 Camaro I wanted a daily street car Do you think the big mother thumper is a good choice.
@salvatorehayes2753
@salvatorehayes2753 3 ай бұрын
Does Anyone Know If A .315" Lobe On A 252 Advertized Duration (200 @ .50") Is A Harsh For The Valvetrain? Its In A 1.65 Rocker. This Is A GM 3800 V6 (231CuIn). Im Specing A Camshaft And Im Constrained To Very Short Durations To Keep My Overlap In Check For My Desired LSA. Its A Daily Driver Turbo Car. Originally I Speced The Intake Lobe .344 With 252 Duration (202 @0.50") But I Figured That Was Far Too Agressive On The Valvetrain For A Daily Driver.
@ronnieyoung7510
@ronnieyoung7510 Жыл бұрын
What makes more power a slow close and camor fast closing canon that valve
@braddenning1617
@braddenning1617 2 жыл бұрын
So you can spec out a cam on the 60 over hot street 292 inline chewy six I'm building?
@dufusemerge4780
@dufusemerge4780 Жыл бұрын
How about Apr. 33% of the valvesize or test it in the flow bench to see where it ends to increase the flow? A smooth even custom profile with right amount of duration/ramps/lift in combination is probably the best way to go if you have no limitations. A cam is just one of many important parts in an engine.
@johnwilliams8855
@johnwilliams8855 8 ай бұрын
Amen brother, went to a hotrod hangout a while back , sounded like a herd of turds. Just shook my head and left.
@ShawnDickens
@ShawnDickens 2 жыл бұрын
You also add velocity to the opening of the valve
@AB-80X
@AB-80X 2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much implied don't you think?
@KingJT80
@KingJT80 2 жыл бұрын
what about melonized gears? heard they can used on about anything yeah i know i dont know jack i just read th descriptions lol manufacture says head works on this cubic inch up to 6000 RPM I buy a cam that works to 6000 rpm for that cubic inch cause i only know about that much other than matching the gears and compression per the combo
@glennraydorzok4053
@glennraydorzok4053 2 жыл бұрын
.. limits be damned, more lift is (I agree) more power. peace GRD
@hotrodray6802
@hotrodray6802 2 жыл бұрын
🔔😎 Damn fine job👍😁 Talk as long as you want. Ill be here. 👍😎😁😎
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 2 жыл бұрын
WOW. Thanks
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