Can we give some credits for the XC rider? He is damn fast everywhere on that little xc bike! It's insane!
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
Totally - especially as Isaac hadn't ridden there before, so all those runs were blind!
@Jimbob-eu4gd Жыл бұрын
Isaacs a beast
@alexramirez118 Жыл бұрын
Give the ebiker an XC bike
@uberfu Жыл бұрын
If mtb racing had handicaps like Golf ... Isaac would've owned that race. And honestly with a time diff of 1.17 he kinda makes the E-Bike look bad.
@alexramirez118 Жыл бұрын
@@uberfu fu%@ amen brotha!
@mattpike7268 Жыл бұрын
The new XC guy is FAST. this should be a ongoing series, matts the perfect representation of a normal biker with a lot of experience. The XC guy is the perfect representation of a highly fit rider. Absolutely perfect combo.
@milesdakin3540 Жыл бұрын
Love it! We need more of Matt on Camera 🤘 anyone who shouts ‘any snacks’ 10mins into any ride is a friend of mine 😂
@thesmf1210 Жыл бұрын
yummy
@imjustridingbikes Жыл бұрын
I couldn't resist!
@01MattDunn Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, Matt is relatable, has great bants and commentary, get him in-front of the camera instead of behind it @gmbn
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! We had such a good time filming this with Matt and Issac! More to come we're sure! 🤘
@andrewince8824 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see DH Pro on an XC and XC Pro on a DH. Big race straight down a decent trail. Would the DH rider be able to compensate for the weaker XC bike or would the XC rider find more pace on a more capable bike? Sod it, everyone go argue politely in the comments.
@KadenMonsonMTB Жыл бұрын
YES I WOULD LOVE THIS!!!
@BlackMarvin Жыл бұрын
@@KadenMonsonMTB Yeah that'S the kind of challenge I want to see. E-bikes are lame.
@tahaa.p.a9853 Жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly
@pyhtiorides Жыл бұрын
OR: XC pro vs DH pro on an enduro course?
@core-i7413 Жыл бұрын
Would be way more interesting than this, because it's actually a comparison that makes sense.
@veydajar Жыл бұрын
Would have been even more entertaining if you showed their HR and power data during this. :D
@JB-1138 Жыл бұрын
I agree. That would add a nice element to this type of video.
@SmartLittleFishy Жыл бұрын
I know I'm late to the part here, but this was the most exciting GMBN video I've seen. Bravo to the editor (Matt?) and thank you both for riding so hard.
@hwordog Жыл бұрын
Isaac is a weapon! Huge respect. ... and to be hitting the inside lines on a blind run of vicious valley at that pace on any bike let alone an XC bike is something else, the dude must be reading the trail so far ahead to see them coming its quite incredible. Hard to believe it was a blind run (though I believe it was). Pretty sure he'd crush it if he ever fancied a change and switched focus to Enduro (not that he should! just sayin)
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
He's a dark horse of many disciplines is Isaac! He's probably got furthest in XC but has ridden road, time trial, track, 4x, downhill and enduro over the years. Anything with 2 wheels, Isaac is probably fast on it.
@junka1975 Жыл бұрын
Isaac is definitely fast, just over a minute in it. That's impressive. I hope Matt got his snacks as well as Isaac, snacks all round and well deserved.
@zedeeyen30 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if a second lap would have changed things.
@akaraikiriakatsuki3157 Жыл бұрын
😂 make them do 10 laps.
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
A rematch would be sick! 👊
@wss327 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I’m loving my 2023 Levo SL. Rides nearly like an analog but it has the power to help me get up the hills with less fatigue which means more fun on the way down and more trips overall.
@fabianirsara9846 Жыл бұрын
@@akaraikiriakatsuki3157😂
@strawbunyan76719 ай бұрын
This would have been the deal breaker for matt. 2 more laps to simulate an actual XC race and there is no way he could have kept up....even on a motorcycle.
@michaelknight6000 Жыл бұрын
I'd kill to ride like Isaac. Beautiful effort.
@993cupswe Жыл бұрын
We want to see Matt train and do a EWS-E100 race :) and give him a Canyon Strive
@imjustridingbikes Жыл бұрын
This will be happening soon, I can't wait!
@alansmith2593 Жыл бұрын
They way Isac danced through corner to corner and floated the tech was another level. Yeeoo! Your camera dude fully has some skills too. How they manage to commentate when pinning it that fast was impressive
@musiqueetmontagne Жыл бұрын
Took some great lines too...
@thedude669 Жыл бұрын
That was much closer than I thought it would be!
@TerribleForm Жыл бұрын
That transition at 5:59 👌so clean
@B1KER Жыл бұрын
To me, it's crazy how close they were. I bet if there was another climb the XC guy might have had a chance since the eBiker was starting to complain about cramping.
@friendlypete10 Жыл бұрын
Hats off to the Xc guy as he was flying
@mountaincruiser817 Жыл бұрын
This should be called “how out of shape can you get to still outrun a super fit guy on a normal bike?”
@joeblack7469 Жыл бұрын
ie - are e-bikes cheating 😂
@yengsabio5315 Жыл бұрын
4:31 I did not expect that reaction to come! 😂😂😂 Lots of love, cheers, & mabuhay, from my end--the Philippines!
@Cyborgon Жыл бұрын
Oh a squirrel, dont want that between your spokes 😂😂😂 brilliant matt 🤣
@barryholt3526 Жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see a comparison of HR data. You just know that the ebiker's heart was working a lot harder.
@apatriotofhopedanjohn4781 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely Love….. FULL POWER EBIKES….. All Day…..EVERY DAY !!!!!!! Great video guys, way to go Matt
@josephhale8924 Жыл бұрын
So I graduated into being an E-mountain biker this year after mountain biking for 30 years and I'm pretty sure this xc race pro would have beat me by several minutes. Really impressive 👏👏👏
@danielray1558 Жыл бұрын
I got an ebike so I could keep up with my xc super fit friends- worked like a charm- now I can keep up with them when they want to push it. And sometimes I’ll stick around after and do another lap.
@downhill64 Жыл бұрын
I find it really hard to pass XC riders on my ebike, not because they go fast, it's because their giant egos get in the way that and the sun reflects off their lycra and shiny shaved legs
@113pm Жыл бұрын
i liked matt’s ripping style, good technique and flow. you see where he’s coming from when he shreds down. really enjoyed to see this run
@plokmko0 Жыл бұрын
Well done lads !!! Now we need an age vs beauty race ... Jones on his E-bike vs someone 1/2 his age on similar price bikes !!!
@julianw5692 Жыл бұрын
I think they should swap bikes and do the same course again.
@imjustridingbikes Жыл бұрын
No thankyou!
@Quedz9 Жыл бұрын
More Matt! Very natural on camera and very relatable.
@dr07828 Жыл бұрын
I like how he says, "people don't know how fast ebikers are" Like it was the rider. I mean, the XC guy made up over 40 seconds on the down hill. Says it all.
@richardsholl5977 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The Isaac won because he did it himself.
@cycologist7069 Жыл бұрын
Kind a non issue. I think when they say that they mean how fast eMTBs go. In Europe they only pedal assist up to 25kph before the motor cuts off. Any bikes that go faster than that with the motor still running fall into a whole new category. in actual eMTB races, everyone is on equal fitting as far as top speed and power under motor, so it still comes down to rider skill and fitness/strength. Also most racers come from a traditional mtb background.
@nvire5202 Жыл бұрын
I ride a Decathlon down country bike, the Rockrider XC100S, quite a nice bike for the price I paid and I have been quicker than some XC riders with their expensive 10000€ bikes, but never would I be riding as fast at the xc rider in the video, huge rounds of applause to him
@MTBstuart Жыл бұрын
please swap them over and do a rerun 🤣 both great riders and obviously it wouldn't really be a competition but it would be interesting to see the difference, how much faster would Isaac be and how much slower would Matt be? how many laps could Isaac do before Matt finished?
@MTBishop Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing that their cameras are able to jump off and on their chests throughout the ride like that. Some advanced technology!
@jordanr8312 Жыл бұрын
Awesome edit to keep it interesting! Fun vid! Thanks for the content.
@jto-mtb Жыл бұрын
Now, for true reference, same riders, but switch bikes. 😂
@Wi11duhbea5t Жыл бұрын
Yes please they have to do more on different style of tracks that would be so awesome
@boblazar1976 Жыл бұрын
That ebike belly..........🤣👍
@aliancemd8 ай бұрын
Plenty of road riders have a belly. Has nothing to do with what you ride but all to do with how you eat
@SamBessalah Жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting to enjoy this, this much.
@Luke_Ray16 Жыл бұрын
Matt is a legend, Isaac is like a water boatman on that Canyon! Epic race
@FirestormAA Жыл бұрын
Awesome race!!!!!!! Pls make more.... im glued to my cellphone watch the race while stop showering half way thur. Lol Really!
@Certago Жыл бұрын
Super impressive on both of them, very enjoyable!
@sieras1987 Жыл бұрын
Insane fitness and tempo! BIG BIG respect for both riders! Good race!
@tmstriveon Жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see same, but on the distance. Ebike managing battery & effort, XC managing effort
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
Good idea for a second instalment... We'll see if Matt's recovered yet! 😉
@WaechterDerNacht Жыл бұрын
The reason Isaac lost is clearly his helmet - not aero enough... ...would the crew from GCN say :-P
@pilotleader Жыл бұрын
This is the reason I don’t watch regular TV anymore! - This is real and all the drama I need! 👍👍👍👍
@XR7CHARD Жыл бұрын
Matty in front of the lens for a change!! Get in fella!
@erikbrynjolfson64787 ай бұрын
So much more respect for Isaac , what an animal . Did awesome racing a motorbike!!!!
@noelbodle8863 Жыл бұрын
I though this would be pretty close, but my full respect goes to the xc rider for having better skill and fitness on a proper mountain bike. Would have been interesting if they swapped bikes and redone the route, we all know the out come of that race 😂😂😂 Not a e-bike hater as they do have there place for less skilled and unfit folks. Also nice seeing a older generation out riding bikes which really what these bikes where designed for 👍
@redleaderone8429 Жыл бұрын
Kids are riding e-bikes fun for everyone
@boblatkey7160 Жыл бұрын
Many people riding E bikes are highly skilled and extremely fit. Your assumption there is full of shit. Regular mountain bikes are simply boring! And the people that like to brag about how fit they are on their mountain bikes are the arrogant snobs that you never want to invite to your party!
@Omar411269 Жыл бұрын
Ebikes are just fun for everyone. Even for fit folks you can just ride longer, harder, and be fresher at the end. No downsides
@mtbaxel9643 Жыл бұрын
It’s more of a fitness issue mate, the e-bike guy used to race when he was young…
@ArdGeal-h6c Жыл бұрын
"less skilled and unfit"...hmmmm that's probably the majority of the population then. Isaac is still at the top of his game, FWIW I have a KTM FS E-MTB as well as a Rockhopper 29er.... out of curiosity I've done some local downhill runs on the 23kg KTM with the motor "OFF" and blown my "conventional" times out of the water... for me fitness doesn't come into it either, the KTM is a blast uphill through technical routes and it's the fun that's important. I'll leave the fitness side, huffing and puffing to my roadie and doing 800-1000km a month on that and RGT on the turbo. Biggest problem real mountain bikers have is their fragile egos!!
@Charboneee Жыл бұрын
impressive that cross country managed to keep up with E bike. Well done, well done.
@theadhdbiker6493 Жыл бұрын
That was way closer than i thought it would be!Round of applause 👏 to the xc rider 💪👌
@JohnMFlores Жыл бұрын
Great editing at the end of the race!
@Emtbtoday Жыл бұрын
Thanks to the channel I went n splashed out on an embt I'm dying to get back on a bike motivation well increased
@andrewhurrell07 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys more of Matt please I was willing him on as I ride the same ebike as him great effort from both riders though 👍👍👍
@JogieGlenMait16 Жыл бұрын
That Garmin on the top tube is a great idea.
@scstinger5 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a race between a geared bike and single speed bike. I’ve noticed that single speed riders have some of the fastest times at the local XC races
@SazanD1 Жыл бұрын
For a "fattie" he does know how to shred tho.
@imjustridingbikes Жыл бұрын
hahahah thankyou!
@markdavis8430 Жыл бұрын
Great content as always Plus with subtitles are comedy Eating with a break pad pizza 😂
@Mistic00727 Жыл бұрын
Of all your tests, this one was the one that was most significant to be done one at a time!
@gmbn Жыл бұрын
It would have only taken longer to shoot then!
@exothermal.sprocket Жыл бұрын
Well your editing skills paid off, I think I sweated out a few calories watching.
@smoothisfast6644 Жыл бұрын
Glad MTB is for everyone. For myself, I prefer the grind and the workout of XC.
@andrewince8824 Жыл бұрын
I got shown up by a 73 year old on an E-MTB at FOD. Never smiled more in my life watching the old dude sail past me on the climbs, MTB seriously is for everyone and it rocks.
@chucknoob7041 Жыл бұрын
I’m on my second ebike season. I miss the grind just a little but can’t give up the speed the ebike allows.
@dopeyzombie Жыл бұрын
Isaac's body movement is phenomenal while Matt appears that he had a great workout. It's not a matter of e-bike being able to beat a x-country pro, it's about boys exercising and having fun on a trail.
@CraigFyfe Жыл бұрын
Love going all out on my normal bike but had a shot of an e bike and for lapping tracks over and over it is great
@ryoukokonpaku1575 Жыл бұрын
I had both for a while (borrowed one from my cousin). The ebike basically allowed me to ride trails at a decent pace even when I'm recovering from riding my non ebike without interferring with my recovery period. I also see that they can actually be quite tiring especially when you just run eco. They allow you to build good sweat still and I can always swap to turbo when I go back to the car when I'm tired.
@andyrogers747 Жыл бұрын
Nice energy Neil 🔥 👏
@TimMillernapavalleyfilmworks Жыл бұрын
Wait what 😂
@JGRC512 Жыл бұрын
What a wholesome and humbling experience! I wanna go next! 💪
@crankshoptv Жыл бұрын
Good video. I'd like to know the overall fastest times recorded bike vs ebike for the climb there.
@AAmtb10 Жыл бұрын
Great vid
@ektrolleyboy Жыл бұрын
Put the XC rider on the E-bike and let him repeat the course for a comparison.
@bobby.k Жыл бұрын
I wonder what would happened if they raced for hour and a half (around xc race distance time). Because each and every sector the xc racer got faster and faster and at the end, they would have been neck a neck
@golan4x Жыл бұрын
Congratulation to Isaac, you deserve everything.
@NearEDGE Жыл бұрын
Have the XC Rider do the same course on the e bike and see how much his time improves
@NicolasWilliamHughes Жыл бұрын
More of Mat please! Legend, inabitnow
@kldstl Жыл бұрын
Should've had a third participant. A fit rider on a lightweight ebike like the scott lumen or the new canyon neuron on.
@tomhesse01 Жыл бұрын
I have the new Canyon Neuron On CFR8... It's not exactly lightweight, 24,6 Kg and now with decent tires, probably 25,something kg.
@DodoTheDudu Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed it so much... 👍
@gordo_rides_bikes Жыл бұрын
Couldn't help noticing the close up of the side of Wax's head definitely makes him look a bit elfish. Very nice
@thesmf1210 Жыл бұрын
well never saw that one coming.....
@nevillepretorius8948 Жыл бұрын
Dont like E-Bike content and normally skip it but this was a cool video 👍👍
@detolerandisstultorum Жыл бұрын
Look at the guys. One with visible belly fat, the other one slim and fit. E bike is cheating. I really do not get the thinking behind these. Electric means he gets a motor to help. It is like 2 guys against one.
@Jesus-father Жыл бұрын
youre right. E bikes have a huge advantage compared to traditional bikes especially when they are competing against each other. This Race isn’t fair in any way. However i really like them and i have more fun on ebikes than my ordinary bike because i can focus way more on my downhill skills than climbing
@Edfc200 Жыл бұрын
That low handle bar set up looks brutal
@dennisbrucemasayon786 Жыл бұрын
Isaac was battling against an electric motorcycle basically🤣
@Trikk57 Жыл бұрын
The limitations of the e-bike is that it was restricted… 😅🎉 Derestrict it and its party time
@jasper_of_puppets Жыл бұрын
Seriously. That 25kmph/15.5mph restriction in the UK is lame. It's a 20mph limit for Class I bikes here in the USA, but I'm thinking about derestricting mine. I hate the feeling you get when you're pedaling at speed and you hit the limiter. It feels like you've just gone into a sand pit.
@mtbrik Жыл бұрын
But you’re not pedaling at speed are you?
@sweetjamhit Жыл бұрын
Ha, ha... in Australia eBikes are limited to 25kph... we have a standard MTB bike group of us called 'The 25.1 club'! Nudge it over the limiter and the smiles soon disappear : )
@paultamaschke9318 Жыл бұрын
😂 Motor bike vs Mountain bike! Can your next video be a car vs Road bike please.
@bigshotdigital Жыл бұрын
Grouse Vid... I ride an Earth T Rex 29" eBike....Best bike iv'e ever owned and being 73yo I've had a lot of bikes..Cheers From OZ
@darrenkershaw5272 Жыл бұрын
Can you save that as a strava route please 👍👍👍, great work guys
@dgw6448 Жыл бұрын
Who would have thought that a man on a motor-bike is faster than a man on a mountain bike
@alee_56371 Жыл бұрын
Should do both on the same ebike see much/little difference between them 😆
@Dirtypandasan Жыл бұрын
There's another channel for that though.
@blobbles78 Жыл бұрын
Should have given Isaac the ebike and seen how fast he would have gone on it
@nwmetalbug Жыл бұрын
That was awesome.
@Jamie60295 ай бұрын
What about an XC Marathon/ Endurance racer. Vs an e-bike? I used to race XC and 8 hour endurance races. I have beat 2 different brand reps on our local trails with my 2013 specialized epic fsr 29er that were riding their brands e-bikes
@michaelyounghusband5558 Жыл бұрын
So this proves it - e-bikes are faster on relatively smooth courses. Kudos to Isaac only 2 minutes over 14 on the first climb. Pretty hard to make up time on a fairly smooth descent.
@norcalchrismeister Жыл бұрын
I love passing emtb riders on my Epic Evo. They can pass me on the climbs but I won't be far behind and then I'll drop them on the flats and descents lol
@streddaz Жыл бұрын
All things being equal with the rider the Ebike would be a lot faster on the climb and the steeper the climb the further in front it would be. On the flats the XC bike would win due to be Ebike hitting the limiter. On the descents, if it’s steep, the Ebike would have it as it’s got better geometry for descending. If it’s the pedally descent you might have them on the XC bike.
@MarvinWestmaas Жыл бұрын
Should do this again, but with an unlocked ebike not limited to 25km/h
@jonzylka9474 Жыл бұрын
So… cheat riding vs real riding. No wonder one is actually fit and in shape.
@sa2lite2723 ай бұрын
@@jonzylka9474 He is fit because he is a pro rider, and proper diet has more impact on your body than training
@paranoidandroid77 Жыл бұрын
What is Isaac using as top tube mount?
@andrewince8824 Жыл бұрын
My best guess is some sort of double-sided sticky pad to hold his computer. Pretty smart, looks cleaner and it probably keeps the computer safer in a crash.
@andrewince8824 Жыл бұрын
@@Isaac-Mundy aha. I didn't know there was a mount for mounting to a top tube like that. For stem mounts I'd recommend a Stem Captain. It replaces the top cap and incorporates a mount.
@Emtbtoday Жыл бұрын
Never released how much of a downsweep they use in XC bars looks like my Carbon Newman bars when upside down come in the EBike lol 😂
@lacucaracha111111 Жыл бұрын
Now I want to see a DIY CYC E-bike race
@chucknoob7041 Жыл бұрын
Rode mine today. It’s fun as hell jumping and braking into corners uphill.
@willgallagher2348 Жыл бұрын
give the pro xc racer the e-bike 💀 bro would be supersonic
@jasper_of_puppets Жыл бұрын
Only if you derestrict the ebike. That 25kmph/15.5mph limit is a real drag
@petedog9581 Жыл бұрын
Nice to know an emtb can let a slob like me hang w a pro. Lol.
@bobothericefarmer1878 Жыл бұрын
Sick vid
@nobodyisbest Жыл бұрын
That E-Biker, Matt, feels quite smug about his "victory". More power to Bosch.
@missilemick Жыл бұрын
They should do the same course but swop bikes
@mickshred2886 Жыл бұрын
needed to be a more of a technical windy climb, there was some lengthy straight up runs by the look of it.