CAN A F2P E0S0 FEIXIAO AND ACHERON CLEAR THE NEWEST MEMORY OF CHAOS 12? | Honkai: Star Rail - MOC 12

[@compilersalad8480]

the "focus on the trotters" tip let me shave off enough cycles for full star clear thank you man! I found your channel today and appreciate the relatable e0s0 clears. Subbed :)

[@rainofstone7232]

This moc was crazy hard. I took 7 cycles to clear the first half with firefly and took 3 to clear the second half with acheron 😭

[@vilmere]

Same with my e1s1 firefly cuz no ruan mei

[@timspicer7904]

@@vilmere Ooof, that's rough friend. Any source of increased weakness break efficiency, like from Ruan Mei, makes a huge difference with Firefly. I ran sustainless E2S1 Firefly + E1S1 Fugue + E0S0 Ruan Mei + HMC for side 1 and it was a surprisingly easy 0-cycle.

[@ABC-yj6cy]

Took me 3 using acheron on 1st half and 1 using FF on 2nd half. Acheron is starting to struggle 😅

[@SamiverseYT]

if i didnt have acheron then i would've been very screwed this moc it feels like 😅

[@vanshmittal6120]

My feixiao took 5 and rappa 4

[@esttaxatty]

wow i never reliezed how good your feixiao is i think its almost better than mine

[@SamiverseYT]

im surprised myself her relics turned out as well as they did tbh

[@Pachirisu2024]

I actually really enjoyed this one my misha 2 cycled side 2 😅

[@SamiverseYT]

damn thats one cracked misha, fair enough!! salutes to your misha o7 o7

[@Pachirisu2024]

@@SamiverseYT thanks I got Really lucky on his relics but to be fair its all about the Supports I always use him with sparkle sunday and tingyung he can use his ult every turn with that team and cause of his kit he perma freezes the enemys so no Sustain needed there 😀

[@esttaxatty]

oh yeah adventurines shields are still broken it probably is bugged due to memo-sprite's there is a vid that explains it, the you tuber is RedFlaim just in case you want specifics

[@SamiverseYT]

ah well i hope they fix that in v3, plenty of apology jades would be appreciated as well :P (i saw the redflaim vid on my recommended since ive watched some of his stuff before, but didnt have time to actually watch it today sadly 😅)

[@sumsumplays]

@@SamiverseYTsame like its genuinely been a major inconvenience for me 😭

[@Leothemoose]

This MOC is made for AOE. I cleared the first side in 5/6 cycles using Firefly - Fugue - RuanMei - Gallagher. And second side managed to clear in 4 cycles using Acheron - Jiaoqiu - Pela - Aventurine Overall, focus on trotters. For the first side, use Fugue skill on Gallagher not FF and focus FF on the wolf robot and Gallagher + Fugue on the trotters. Then switch and focus FF on Svarog with Fugue and Gally on everything else. Second side, since my team was AOE overall, just go crazy and damage everything.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

For people with Feixiao. Get her Light cone if you can. I didnt read the lightcone but it turns out it will give Feixiao Ult 54%Def Ignore. That a HUGE buff to her damage.

[@MegaNut6238]

I have a guaranteed feixiao and enough pulls for weapon pity is she really worth it in 3.0+?

[@esttaxatty]

i feel like Big Herta will probbly be a very nice addition and would help a lot

[@SamiverseYT]

defo, a lot of ice weakness in second half and AOE heavy, almost certainly made around rappa+herta

[@squareframe6542]

Feel like? They INTENTIONALLY made it for Herta. And next MOC will have massive energy regen buff for Aglaea big fat 350 energy cost. Make the endgames cater to the featured character so the fomo players money start rolling🤑

[@SamiverseYT]

@@squareframe6542 yeahh its always kinda been like this, although for me it feels like they started catering to new chars even more after the release of firefly, and now its starting to get outrageous 💀

[@Kimchiman00]

@@esttaxatty Also extremely FTP friendly. You have a solid team right off the bat with RMC, small herta, lynx

[@esttaxatty]

@Kimchiman00 bruh you think LYNX can do anything in this moc she's irrelevant like every other healer besides Gallagher or Lingsha

[@16thzero29]

I was doing my first 36 stars clear with my E0S0 Blade with E0S1 Jade in second half and E0S1 Acheron in first. This took me so many tries though because i struggled to make both teams only need 5 cycles each and the stings just kept on hitting my Robin and Jade instead of Blade😭😭 The trotters were a blessing for real.

[@SamiverseYT]

yeahh the trotters are quite great for any character that does AOE, really sucks for any non AOE chars tho ahaha. and yeahhh i feel the pain of stings targetting the wrong chars, in so many runs they were just bullying my poor jiaoqiu :,) as a blade main however, respect for the blade clear o7 o7

[@esttaxatty]

Dude the hp inflation is honestly so bad... It's 100 percent going to be worse next moc as well 😭😭

[@SamiverseYT]

cries in f2p

[@YabuKeki]

Really hard moc even for my E2S1 acheron, good Video.

[@SamiverseYT]

yeahhh its been a bit rough this time around, thank you tho! :D

[@Raiceuu]

Even with my E2 S1 Acheron team on the second half (with Fu Xuan, Pela, and S1 Ruan Mei) I barely made it out. This is definitely a harder MoC for sure

[@SamiverseYT]

yeah it seems like almost everyone's been having some struggles this time around, just gotta hope this isnt a sign of things to come

[@joustingknight2088]

16:40 why zrent u getting new stacks when the mini stings spawn?

[@SamiverseYT]

the stacks jiaoqiu generates have a limit which refreshes whenever u use his ult again, that way u wont get too many stacks if enemies take a lot of actions / a lot spawn in (which was the case for the stings). i do wish it was uncapped, but it does make sense from a balance point :P

[@joustingknight2088]

@@SamiverseYT alr i see so ig jq isnt even that big of an upgrade for acheron

[@SamiverseYT]

@joustingknight2088 actually no, quite the opposite! jiaoqiu is a big upgrade for acheron and thats in place to prevent the combo being absolutely busted. jq is the best support for acheron's damage, team versatility and stack generation - i would recommend him more than i would e1 on acheron

[@joustingknight2088]

@@SamiverseYT oh ok then lol then i back to planning on pulling him lol, only have sw fugue and pela as my nihilities so i struggle to hit good dmg w acheron like i can barely clear w her e0s0 builds

[@tmth.nts16]

I think in patch 3.0 I will pull for Feixiaos LC because I always see her 0 cycling MoC and also this MoC and that’s mostly because her ult deals ridiculous damage with her LC while the builds of their Feixiao ain‘t even better than mine

[@SamiverseYT]

yeah thats fair enough, her S1 is very strong and even tho she's good without it, her LC takes her to another level

[@EddieBlake215]

Great showcase! Man, I wish I had JQ... 2nd half with Acheron, Sunday, Pela, and Gally doesn't really work that well... It's funny that I have 4 teams that can do 4-5 cycles in the first half, but I have absolutely no team that can do the 2nd half in 5-6 cycles... cries in 17 cycles left. Well, The Herta is around the corner, and I have a guarantee, bc Fugue dodged so I guess there's that.

[@SamiverseYT]

Thank you!! And yeah jq is great for acheron both in terms of buffing and unlocking more teams for her. Before I had him, I'd normally pair my acheron with either a silverwolf or a blackswan, but he's been an immense upgrade. The second half really is quite mean because if u dont have rappa then acheron is probs ur best option, but she's really good on the first half. Other than that theres not many optimal imaginary or ice characters to handle it 😅

[@EddieBlake215]

@@SamiverseYT Well, The Herta will drop in a few days, and she seems to smash that bug to pieces. Meanwhile, it's funny how the best-performing team I have for Svarog is Kafka, BS, RM, and Gallagher LMAO!, 4-5 cycles on that side consistently. Unfortunately, Acheron, Sunday, Pela, and Luocha for the 2nd half isn't doing as great, 6-7 cycles for the most part, but usually my Pela doesn't survive until the end. I'll probably have to level some relics, and maybe get her some more HP...

[@haziee3108]

start vertical investing on 1 or 2 of your favorite teams(strong teams ofc). stop pulling every new character at e0s0 and start focusing if you want to take endgame seriously for a long time

[@SamiverseYT]

that would be the smart thing to do for most players, except i 1) rather try out all new characters + archetypes and 2) want all my content to be e0s0 f2p friendly so its relatable to as many people as possible c:

[@noice9193]

I have a rappa and I still struggled because that first side took me soo long

[@SamiverseYT]

biggest problem with the first side was either dealing with or avoiding getting crowd controlled, needless to say it was a pain 😭

[@noice9193]

I’m using moze instead of march and moze will only follow up on people he marks/ hides in so if I don’t kill the trotter my moze is never leaving that enemy and he can only get robin’s action advance if he isn’t hiding in an enemy

[@writerducky2589]

Man, I'm struggling so hard with this too😢 My first attempt ended up at like 17 cycles. JY, Sunday, Robin, Luocha in first half, and Ratio, Aven, Jiao, RM in second. Tried Blade S1, Robin E1, Bronya E4S1, Luocha in first half and they used 6 cycles😅 Best run so far was 5 cycles in first half with Ratio, Jiao, Robin and either Luocha or Aven in first half, but second half, I think DHIL, Fugue, RM and whichever sustain wasn't in first half, suffered sooo bad it wasn't even fun😅 DHIL looks like my best option for the second half, but he's E0, his build is terrible and there's no Sparkle😭 Like, it's not the end of the world, just 80 jade and on a f2p account where I pull mostly characters I like, or at least don't pull ones I don't like, however meta they might be. It's not even the first time I've struggled, it just hit harder this time for some reason😅

[@SamiverseYT]

yeahhh this MOC is just really restrictive so its quite difficult, i wouldnt beat yourself up over not managing it to 36* (but if u do, hopefully it doesnt take 40 attempts). just gotta hope the next one goes better 😅

[@adelfalamata4014]

Do you plan on getting e1 robin or just save for upcoming characters?

[@SamiverseYT]

nope just saving for now, atm looking to get mydei, castorice, anaxa, phainon - i dont purposefully pull any eidolons / lightcones so i can make more relatable e0s0 showcases :P

[@zigitj9163]

Def Needed this....i don't have acheron, hopefully firefly carries second half

[@SamiverseYT]

firefly will always do a good job so u should be fine, whether u 36* will probs be determined by ur first half. best of luck either way! :D

[@esttaxatty]

they are juvinile stings just incase you didnt know still

[@SamiverseYT]

sounds about right, thanks xd

[@esttaxatty]

​@@SamiverseYTthe heck you mean "sounds about right" boy my knowledge of this game is sad I know basically everything bout this game...

[@esttaxatty]

​@@SamiverseYTalso bruh I don't even play Genshin anymore and I still knew Xiao's name and didn't lol, I somehow know more Genshin lore than you don't you dare doubt me when it comes to lore Sami sigh* sorry bout the rant. 😅

[@SamiverseYT]

@@esttaxatty okay tbf i knew xiao's name since i actually know all the yaksha lore, i just didn't realise your name was supposed to be a genshin reference so it didnt click xd either way, it made me feel very silly when u told me (and still does tbh as a big fan of xiao and the yakshas)

[@SamiverseYT]

@@esttaxatty LMAO dw im not doubting your knwledge, moreso just saying that it adds up :p

[@heroes8844]

Imsgine your healer dont heal the lowest ally but just heal randomly, thats what happening to aventurine, its just his shield too powerful to normally matter

[@SamiverseYT]

ahh that would make sense, but yeah we're lucky that he's such a good sustain that you don't really realise it, outside of maybe having to use your skill once/twice

[@SirMitsuruji5]

First half acheron 4 cycles. Second half FF team 8 cycles. 35 stars it is..

[@SamiverseYT]

i also thought i was gonna have to settle for 35 stars, but luckily i got this run when i was nearing my limit aha

[@Lukz243]

This MoC was very AoE heavy for sure. At least I had a good excuse to use Jade

[@SamiverseYT]

it felt more aoe than pure fiction at this point :P

[@justsomeoneontheinternet5764]

im a bit scared to try this moc, i dont know if i can 36 star this one 😭

[@SamiverseYT]

its TERRIFYING, i was very close to giving up myself 😅

[@saikeno_4228]

Can you do fexiao but without robin? I wanna pull for fexiao but don't have enough for robin sadly

[@Kimchiman00]

Not nearly as strong. A huge portion of dmg comes from Robin and thats not even including the advanced forward.

[@swegypunchymany4717]

@@Kimchiman00 yep sadly I think he'd benefit hundreds of times way more from getting robin than getting feixiao in that case, very sad that they decided to rerun both of them so fast and at the same time

[@SamiverseYT]

when i tested feixiao with other teammates back on her release, i found that ruan mei would clear on average about 1 cycle slower and jiaoqiu 2 cycles slower. however considering current HP inflation, I'd say expect RM to be 1-2 cycles slower and jiaoqiu 2-3 depending on investment. so if your feixiao is E0S0, then she'll still be good in apoc shadow without robin and still good in single target MOCs, however in ones like these where its not just one boss then she would probs struggle to clear without robin if she's E0S0 what i will say however, is that if ur a new player (which u might be if u dont have either robin or feixiao), then i would just recommend pulling for characters that u like and not worry about clearing end game with full stars. i always recommend pulling for characters u like so that u can enjoy the game more, and then pulling supports around ur fave DPS chars. if u wanna go for meta, then its probs best to get robin and rerun and then some v3 DPS chars whether that be aglaea, herta, mydei, etc. however, id always just go for the chars u like more (for example im skipping everyone for mydei since i like him best and idek how strong he will be, but when i get him ill pull whatever supports i need to make him good) hope this helps ^^

[@SirMitsuruji5]

I'll get hate from saying this but feixiao without her lc she's not that good. At least that's my experience with her. Took 8 cycles to clear the first half lmao.

[@idnevergivefelixarawegg]

Man I wanted to pull for Feixiao but the way they are making these endgames AoE... what a bad time to pick her up and for her rerun. I'm secure on one side because of Acheron but barely clutching with Break March on the other side. I do have Ratio+Moze follow-up but for some reason they do very little damage.

[@SamiverseYT]

tbf i think the gamemodes are becoming AOE since rappa was the most recent DPS and the next one is also gonna be herta, aka two erudition units that are very aoe focused. once we dont have back to back aoe dps then i think the feeling of the game being aoe will fade a bit. if u want my advice, i'd say that if u just wanna pull feixiao for meta reasons, then maybe its best to focus on new 3.0 characters. however, feixiao is still very strong no matter what and will likely stay that way (especially if u pick up some of her best supports/invest into her), so if u like her then u shouldnt feel bad for pulling her. i always recommend pulling for who u like most and then building around them :))

[@RandomThingHappens]

It was little hard, but I did it within 6 cycles

[@SamiverseYT]

fair play, ive never been able to clear that fast so u have my respect o7

[@mogamiaki211]

Why are you skipping The Herta?

[@SamiverseYT]

although i like herta, her 4* version is enough for me because there are characters i much rather pull in v3 like mydei, castorice, anaxa, phainon. if i still want 5* herta after getting all those chars, ill just get her on a rerun :P

[@bigfootisreal_]

I think hunt wont be relevant in 3.x by tge look of it and its kinda sad since most people inc me just recently built their Feixiao team. If people are still struggling then I'd suggest wait for 3.0 and get RMC and try again.

[@SamiverseYT]

thing is a lot of us thought this in the first bit of version 2, but then boothill, feixiao and apoc shadow all released. i feel like the state of the game is too volatile and as soon as a hunt char gets released, hunt will be all the talk again. it moreso just boils down to having to keep up with the newest archetypes like break, follow up, and soon summons

[@esttaxatty]

Hii Samiiii

[@SamiverseYT]

hiya!! :))

[@esttaxatty]

40 is crazyyy😭😭😭😭

[@SamiverseYT]

commitment o7

[@achilleaszigouris6926]

This one was not that bad for me. Firefly deleted Svarog and Qingque wiped the floor with the Swarm.

[@SamiverseYT]

i always respect anyone who can make qingque work :P o7

[@marupurusaivamsi4802]

My feixiao could have cleared in 4 cycles if not for that shitty hand taking her twice .

[@SamiverseYT]

the hand is the bane of my existence 😭i hate unavoidable CC in moc :,)