Can A Newbie Jogger Complete An ULTRA MARATHON?

[@AzurePrior]

Jen constantly trying new things and pushing herself has been incredibly inspiring for me, a few months ago I’d dismissed anything over 5k as out of my reach… but seeing both of your journeys allowed me to change my thinking to “you don’t know what your body is capable of until you try” which allowed me to then complete a 17km trail run a few days ago and live to tell the tale! Onwards and upwards! Thank you both!

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Awesome! Congrats on the 17KM trail run, and your new found attitude to try new things. 💪

[@RIGSTQ]

Great effort Jen, can't imagine having to run that sort of distance with Mark banging on in your ear the whole time 🤣

[@andrewmcalister3462]

I'd run 50k just to get away from that.😂

[@souldreamer9056]

@@andrewmcalister3462 You just made me spray tea all over my laptop. Hilarious comment.

[@amandaworden2]

It's great you had the emotional maturity to know when to back off and let Jen be at the end when she was suffering. Knowing when to back off can make an event difficult but enjoyable vs ignoring her feelings and pushing her and making the event a miserable memory.

[@friendlyplayer92]

Yep!

[@kimbrink8257]

Feet between Goggins and Baggins 🤣🤣🤣 That caught me off-guard. Great video and well done Jen!

[@paulstrange9674]

This channel has got me into running and I started off this year at a max of 700m and now I do a 10k and can go about my day to day life after it too. It's been a life changer and in the next couple of years I'm going to try for a marathon.All I got to say is Thanks Mark and Jen for giving me the push I needed to improve my self.

[@paulstrange9674]

Sorry I fergot Nixon !

[@mandie492]

I'm so impressed by Jen's ability to just jump in to new territory with enthusiasm. I hate starting new things because i don't like being bad at it, you're an inspiration

[@MarkLewisfitness]

I used to be the same-but now I relish it. The worse I am, the more I know I can enjoy improving.

[@Kelly_Ben]

It's hard to be good at something until you're bad at it first! What's better, a life filled with adventures you're not perfect at, or a life filled with sameness, limited in challenges and adventure? YOU are the only person expecting perfection of yourself. Besides, if you never give yourself the opportunity to do badly at something, you'll never have the chance to see the things you're great at! Life is short, don't waste it worrying about what others think of how you spend your time!

[@raid8769]

​@@Kelly_Beni really needed to read this beautiful comment, thank you. hope life is treating you well

[@jasonhodach5711]

Great job Jen. Regardless of time, you should feel quite proud of your accomishment.

[@troymorgan4955]

Full credit to Jen for progressing from 5k to 50k. Great determination and no complaining apparent- good vid.

[@aperson6505]

You've used that 'this is stupid, why would anyone do this' clip so many times and it still gets me 😂

[@aperson6505]

@@irfuel Whatever can we do without it?!

[@MrsCazwa]

Well done Jen, I've been following your running journey with interest as I'm training for my first marathon in October. 18 miles to do next, which having just watched you crush this has inspired me to stop worrying and just get it done 🎉

[@damotravelling]

Honestly, this channel is so inspiring to me. I'm new to running, after power walking 10km a day for the last 6 months and losing 31 kilos I decided to try running, now 2 months later I'm hitting just under 30 minutes for my 5km and I'm really enjoying it. Thanks to this channel I would love to work to running a 50k in the future. It's a long way off but I am more than happy to put in the work for it. Great advice, delivered with honesty, straight talking and wit. Proper down to earth. Learning loads, so thanks very much 👍

[@amalyuta]

Great job Jen! Appreciate you mentioning the kit and nutrition, would love an episode that gets into more detail on how you do the math. I always struggle with how to calculate how many carbs/electrolytes I should consume on longer endurance events. Also, love the comment on fixing small things right away, never really considered it, but will have to pay attention. I am doing my first Spartan Ultra in October and this game me some encouragement!

[@ocbyn]

I do enjoy the warts and all aspects of your videos. Particularly with Jen. It is important to show that it is not all 6 packs and smiles. Loved Jen’s “I don’t want to talk about it” comment and your ‘I know my wife moment’ 😜👍

[@richsullivan1950]

Loving these experiments Mark - good to see you have ultra 'preparation' in common. Well done Jen

[@DC-lu5qs]

Way to go Jen! You guys are both absolute inspirations, each in your own way. Absolutely love the breadth of perspective that adding her journey has brought to the channel. She is one heck of a sport to let you show her "after" feet like that :)

[@cincicycles]

The self deprecating inserts are HILARIOUS! Another great video Mark!

[@paruvo9968]

Way to go Jen! Thanks Mark for taking us along

[@scullgirl5069]

Loving Jen’s quiet grit and determination 💪👍

[@nanthilrodriguez]

This is the best couples ultra marathon video I've seen on youtube ALL DAY

[@hulkthedane7542]

Good thinking at around 3 kms to go - not to say it out loud, and thus not be the first to die at that distance 👍👍👍. Wonderful entertainment, as usual. Well run, both of you! Train hard, stay safe!

[@matthewmuente1363]

This is hilarious, as I do exactly the same thing. I'm entirely unprepared for my first 50mi run I have in November, other than a 22mi run back in May. In two weeks ive got a century-and-a-half bike ride...and I have never even done a group ride lol. Sometimes the best part is when you're so naive you have no idea how unprepared you are, and you just get out there and send it, and see what happens 😅

[@Br4tWur5t91]

or just prepare..., but you are right that sometimes it is a lot of fun to do things outside of your comfort zone. Good luck!

[@Ryansick11]

I felt compelled to comment after the toes like Goggins and Baggins comment, superb 😂

[@TheDuathlonShow]

"Life is short, try as much as possible, and don't waste your time on what you don't want to do" words to live by.

[@evelieningels9408]

I love seeing Jen's running journey as well as u realising that different people have different mindsets and goals and u don't try to push her the way u would push yourself

[@duktf4ke]

I started running in May, barely able to get 3k done and ~30kg overweight. Now I'll be doing a 21k trailrun next week and felt really down the last few days, really doubting my ability to do it. I managed to do a 21k street run in training and had a few good long runs, but something just got a hold of me and let me doubt myself. I've discovered your videos two days ago and been watching Jen push through mountain trails and this 50k. It's really inspiring to me and helps me a lot with my (mental) preparation. Thanks for these videos!

[@bingbongcentralhq]

You got this friend. Your experience is basically mine. Marathon this weekend. I hope your race went very well!! Be proud of actually doing it regardless!

[@duktf4ke]

@@bingbongcentralhq Thanks, mate. I did it and got through way better than I expected! And I'm already planning a 36k in a few months. Addictive experience, I want more.

[@clairhardywynn5620]

Absolutely super job Jenna - amazing massive congrats 🤩 Really excited to see what ur going to under take next …. Ultra running defo isn’t for the faint hearted it defo becomes more of a mental battle than a physical (for me at least!) Mark, brilliant running (no pun intended!) commentary as usual - a joy to watch 🙌🫶🙌

[@msfs19941]

You can do a lot with just will power. I ran the London Marathon in 2017 for charity and didn't train (don't follow my example) I could do a half without much issue, but the full almost ended me. It took 7 hours and I was in agony but I did it by constantly telling myself that the only way I was going to stop was if I collapsed. An ultra is a different beast entirely, but prep is key if you want an easier ride 😂

[@24hrsinadaynoexcuses20]

always love the videos! the humor is great makes me laugh your quick wise cracks have me busting up.

[@tylerharnish4631]

Way to go Jen! As someone who's just starting and struggles through the 5k, I cant imagine running 50, that said, a year ago I couldn't imagine running without something chasing me so who knows! You both amaze and inspire!!!

[@korganrocks3995]

Same! I just broke 25 minutes for a 5k today, and the second half of it was agony; I can't imagine 10k at the moment, let alone 50k! 😄

[@Br4tWur5t91]

@@korganrocks3995 lol if you can run 5k in 25min then 10k is easy for you. Just run slower 🙂. Good job anyway and have fun on your running journey!

[@korganrocks3995]

@@Br4tWur5t91 Tell that to my legs! 😄 I'm definitely going to take a break from timing my runs now that I got under that magical 25-minute mark, and instead focus on finding a speed I can keep up for 5k and beyond without feeling like dying. Thanks for the kind words! 🙂

[@Br4tWur5t91]

@@korganrocks3995 you are welcome! Just go once harder, twice easy per week and you will fly to the 10k mark 🤘

[@korganrocks3995]

@@irfuel I've been doing zone 2 training while walking, but I struggle to keep up a brisk walk without getting distracted and subconsciously falling back into my regular comfortable walking speed. That's why I started jogging ahead of schedule a few months ago, cuz there's no forgetting that you're jogging! 😄

[@AveEndGermany]

You two are the motivation that with a bit of training a lot can be reached. I never liked running, but going consistantly i'll doing my first 10k training runs in a few weeks with close to 130 kg. keep up the good work!

[@nickvandam1214]

Fantastic job Jen. Glad you were able to share this experience. Nothing wrong with setting big goals and trying new things. Looking forward to what is next as well!

[@kygoniba]

These are such a pleasure to watch. Plenty to learn while chuckling along. Thanks!

[@SunshineMena]

Jen’s journey has been incredibly inspiring for me. We’re very alike in the e se that we can do a lot, but for a long time just haven’t been bothered to because we were skinny or seen as “healthy” by others. I’ve always dreamed of being an athlete but never stuck to anything consistently and I’ve always loved running. About 5 years ago I ran a half marathon with absolutely no training and no activity at all in my regular day to day and ran it in 3h19min. Yesterday I ran a 12km, again, with no preparation or activity beforehand and did it in 2h01min. I know I’m heavier and obviously less fit than 5 years ago and I want to get better at that. This channel has truly inspired me to try and get consistent with training to just live a more active lifestyle. Thank you for sharing both your journeys with us. Lots of love from Mozambique!

[@st4331]

Congratulations. Great to watch and pick up some tips. I started running again at the end of last year with a view to being fit when I turned 60 (last month). I set myself some targets for a 5K and half-marathon, but my son has entered me for a 50K Ultra in October as a birthday present! At least we're running it together; hoping to break 6 hours as well.

[@salsalawyer]

Bravo for finishing, Jen! Nice to see you guys doing these challenges as couple. Great support Mark!

[@CalmingAnxiety]

I was so close to running my first Ultra this year Guys, 20 miles easy with 90% stamina left and then 2 weeks back, achilles tear - small but annoying and painful. So, Ski erg, Stationary bike and focus on benching more . Love your vids, keeping us all inspired. Well done Jen. Flippin amazing

[@MarkLewisfitness]

20 miles and still 90% stamina, you're made for ultras! 😃

[@NotaNazgul]

Advice: See if you want to take time and help to properly heal that. Also look into your posture and barefoot trail training and such. Believe me, a achilles rupture is no fun. You might be getting a warning shot right now. Good luck, happy sports!

[@grantweaver3698]

The goggins/baggins feet joke had me rolling 😂. Great video man!

[@approachableactive]

All joking aside fair play to her! Skipping the marathon and going straight for the 50k was bloody brave! Great job!

[@WickedBalls]

You are the perfect mix between motivating and really funny. Like goggins had a child with ricky gervais. Its motivating me to train past a marathon, but also keeps me motivated because I keep watching your videos, unlike those of goggins, who has the charisma of a brick.

[@eenee10]

I’m so inspired to push and challenge myself with longer runs. Thanks Mark and Jenn. And congrats to Jen for pushing to the finish line 🎉

[@Swimmer47]

I really enjoyed your video…entirely humorous and educational. Now a subscriber. Hoping to do a half marathon in Paris in a couple of months. After that a 25k in California in the Sierras. Thanks much.

[@jassaljs]

🤗Congratulations Jen! Great effort👏👍 I have learnt a new word ‘Ultra Jogger’! Thanks guys keep motivating us🤗

[@Nabbo892]

Well done Jen and Mark this is a brilliant video. You both smashed it, big inspiration 🙌

[@100thiswilldo]

You're very entertaining. I've found myself with more spare time than normal for the past few weeks so I've been watching your videos; some moments make me laugh out loud quite genuinely. I am quite literally stuck in middle ground - I have been exercising frequently since quitting smoking around 10 years ago but now realise that without change/sacrifice/goal, I will remain at where I am. It would be nice to excel at something.

[@JonnyKibble]

More Bilbo Baggins than David Goggins! Story of my life 😆 Love it Mark!

[@TheLegendaryLife_Official]

This was more exiting than Guardians 3 - watched it yesterday. This was better. - Great job, Jen. I knew you were going to finish.

[@emberchord]

Jen, you are our queen. Pop off! Congratulations!!

[@IainThacker]

Nail on head about the strength work paying dividends. Really well done to both of you - well, mostly Jen for completing her first ultra and also not pushing Mark under a passing car! This is genuinely inspiring, just over 4 weeks to my first ultra - 55km with 1300m climb - and this makes me feel a bit less worried about it!

[@MarkLewisfitness]

All the very best with it! 💪

[@davidisonyt]

I ran that race, didn't see you though, i had an early start time, it was a good event. I also did no training but still enjoyed myself. Well done to jen for finishing.

[@NotaNazgul]

By "no training", you do not mean no training, do you? Jen absolutely trained. She just was not in a shape to know this would be an easy achievement.

[@alexgirouard8100]

The cut aways made me audibly laugh each frigging time LOL great job you two!

[@BeyReaper]

13:45 A cool car drives by. Also great job by Jen. I don't really like running but that could be me not running with proper technique. My poison anyway is cycling.

[@redwheelbarrow9729]

Love it. Great vid. I’ll get around to paying for it on patreon at some point honest!

[@runstokesrun]

Great video, I love the breakdowns you give at certain points on runs like this!

[@djdoesrealestate]

You guys are awesome! I ran my first 50k 2 months ago and I’ve got 2 50 milers left before the seasons done. So cool that you ran this together. My wife loves her bike, but I don’t think I could ever get her to run an ultra with me!

[@heymrguitarman7637]

Hey I hope you're happy with yourself. Found this channel a week ago and I've just signed up for a Spartan Super in 2024, all because of you. I also went for age group (I'm 44). Oh and I forgot to mention I only started back with fitness 2 weeks ago after 3 years of being unkind to myself by getting very out of shape. Thanks 🙃😬

[@andrewzach1921]

Its amazing how watching a bunch of his videos makes you consider these insane things. I have bad knees and hips and I am thinking "I could do a Hyrox or a Spartan". at least I am pushing harder in the gym now than I ever was before.

[@garethneller8239]

He's got a lot to answer for😂 I started running last year, 3 half marathons before the year was out, 20 mile mountain run in April and finished my first marathon/ultra last month with a 50k trail... enjoy the journey💪

[@Kelly_Ben]

You've got this!! Have fun on the journey!

[@MichaelAlcock]

I'm training for the Peak District Ultra next year, and this channel is one of my main motivating factors. Although I doubt I'll look as dignified as the two of you

[@RisiCheshire]

I did a 50k last year for the first time. Great experience and keen to get back into it once I have a bit more free time again. I also went out a bit fast and didn't realise how hilly parts of the course were. In the end I was a bit slower than I would have liked but I really had to dig in and, realistically, there was no way I would have done it any faster. I did up to 42k training runs though, while it sounds like Jen really was winging it. Fair play and a good effort. I hope it doesn't deter her! Also, your description of a typical ultra runner matched me a little too closely!

[@TRI5T4N]

Been through that journey!! Good luck with the rest of your training. See on the start line in September 👍

[@AdventureXuk]

Thanks for sharing the journey. It's quite motivational for someone who is trying to increase their running distances!

[@Lwizzle90]

Jen and Mark, you two are absolute beasts!

[@Kelly_Ben]

Congratulations Jen! For every ultra runner, there are different reasons, motivations, methods. It might start off one way, and morph. The only consistent hard and fast thing is crossing that finish line. Fast or slow, competitive or leisurely, walking breaks or running only, that's just all personal preference. Cross that finish line, and you've earned the pride and confidence that accomplishing an awesome challenge brings. So many people go through life feeling unseen, not special or admirable, strong or truly capable, or part of something unique. I wish everyone could experience these things by tackling a 50k just once in their lives.

[@darrenlaithwaite7810]

Great video, great effort. I off road run with two good mates, one seventy, the other fifty two and I am nearly fifty eight. I am asthmatic and had problems since having COVID May last year but still enjoy the runs.keep up the great work.

[@jenniferrobinson9325]

Wow the scenery is spectacular. Congrats Jen!

[@SZMTHEKING]

An absolutely tremendous open. The intelligent comedy is just flowing. I love it!

[@WeakToElite]

Ahhh, thank you so much for this video - im 13 weeks out from first, have never done a marathon and stopped smoking 16 weeks ago - cant get enougb inspiration and food info - thank you ✌🏻🙏🏻🔥💪🏼

[@gb2983]

Parkrun to 50km in a year (without injury) is really impressive stuff. Cannot dismiss how the body adapts to running over years of doing it, or as you put it - the hard pounding 😅 few years time and with the right attitude Jen will be leaving you in the dust.

[@andycooper2427]

Congratulations Jen, brilliant effort, the secret is just keep moving, one step at a time.

[@MoriahBoyle-b6v]

Well done Jenna. Great work!. Awesome, amazing effort from Jen..

[@ianboylan91]

Congrats Jenna, that’s a great achievement. There’s plenty of great advice in here for folks doing any sort of endurance event.

[@faykellett9589]

Congrats Jen, you did a brilliant job! Love how you are constantly testing your limits 💪

[@BryanSalyersXD]

Yo what's up Mark, you and Jen are awesome 💖

[@Drzzlt]

@@Will-it1px wtf

[@NotaNazgul]

​@@Drzzlthe kind of has a point.

[@CuriousMudkip]

I think I need to swap my training. I run, I love running. Trail runs are my happy place. I have done up to half marathons. But I am slow! A 50km ultra is where I would love to be but my half marathon time is 3:45 so I can't make any cut offs at the moment 😭 one day though!💪

[@ClanDragonas]

I completed a 21k beast Spartan last year and am training for my first Spartan 50k Ultra coming up. Thanks for the inspiration!

[@diana1833]

Super impressive stuff! I've just completed my longest run today (started running 3 months ago 2x/week) of 6.5km. I'm slowly building to a 10k and maybe even a half marathon. Seeing Jen's determination and openness to challenges is very inspiring. Also, I have a question. I experience chafing on my inner thighs during running. How do you prevent it? Or what would you recommend I do? What "sports lubricant" do you use? (I heard you mention it in the video.)

[@kimaboe]

I believe there is a video on his channel about running tips that goes into more detail about lubrication. There are specialised ones, or some people just use vaseline. For some areas tape works. It might also be that you can adjust your clothing to remedy the issue. Loads of tips online. :)

[@frankshorter449]

Great video.Inspirational. Funny!

[@kingy1204]

Just stumbled across your channel. Great vids. Got my 2nd 50km next year so hoping to improve. Subscribed 😊

[@scottporter2513]

Really inspiring! Well done Jen! 👏

[@u140550]

As a runner who hasn’t had time to do my usual thing, it’s interesting to see her a newbie try to do something like this!!; although with your help/motivation I’m glad she did well after training for a year!! It’s inspiring 14:26

[@andrewzach1921]

Good for Jenna for finishing and good for you for not pushing her. That never goes the way you want.😀

[@paulwilliams4990]

Well done Jen great effort 👍

[@Intruuder1]

Fantastic job Jen, great content as always, I’m always interested in the impact of these events. No one ever shows the days following and how you get your body right again. I think that’s just as interesting especially to those who haven’t run or exercised to that extreme.

[@Kelly_Ben]

Most people I know, who have a decent level of fitness, are sore for a day or two, then are just a little tired, if that, for the rest of the week. We're often raring to go and feeling fine within a week, though we know our body might need a little more rest. I've only done 50ks, and if I do one every 6 weeks or so, with light training in between, I feel great, have fun, stay injury free, and my life isn't completely taken over by training/ tapering/ recovery.

[@thomasgrimm1664]

That Goggins and Baggins bit is genious!

[@stevenharris4677]

Great video. Well done and thanks.

[@hikerJohn]

My personal best doing a 10 mile (16.1K) trail run/walk is 2hrs 39min and Ive been walking it for years LOL . . . Only started adding the running this last year but I do keep getting better and I have 1400' of elevation gain/loss. Average HR yesterday (new PR) was 148 BPM at 68 years old. I would love to get that down to 2hrs flat but I'll have to lose 20 pounds because I cant burn that many calories in 2hrs if I dont. Because of the hills I cannot get a pace to stick too but I can try and get a heart rate range to stick to which for now is all I can think of. If I keep the HR below 165 I have a little more left at the end but yesterday run got me to 170 for a short spell.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

That's a lot of climb. 😳 Awesome stuff! 💪

[@markvincent5241]

Awesome, amazing effort from Jen.

[@HennieLacock]

I absolutely love it that you are still running with your Namibia hat - you still need to come back here one day.

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Reading this on a dog walk, wearing the hat! The thing is indestructible.

[@HennieLacock]

@MarkLewisfitness 😆 I'll send you a new one IF that one ever gives in 🤙🏻

[@miriamsalo7123]

Well done Jenna. Great work!

[@samthornton5157]

Awesome to watch and seriously impressive! Can I ask what pack you're using? I'm a similar build to you, and struggling to find one that I can run in wearing a vest and not rub between arms/ribcage. Thanks, Sam

[@thekizzaa]

1) well done Jen!! 2) Nice to see you donning your ultra marathon uniform again Mark 😂

[@SimonWilliamsTutor]

I found out the hard way of not getting things right before a run. Didn't take enough salt tablets on my first marathon recently. Cue a rather warm day and intermittent, painful cramp for the final 12 miles!!! Lesson learnt!

[@Ant-66]

Well done Jen, nice to get the first one in the bag. I think Mark you will crush the 100k this year, as you are getting some decent preps in with a 200k bike and 50k run.

[@ciprianjiurec6956]

Thank you Mark! Congrats Jen!

[@BraunNiklas]

I spat out my drink when you said her feet looked like a cross between goggins and baggins. Congrats Jen, well done!

[@stephena1639]

This video has just dropped at the right time for me (or not) my colleague has just had to pull out of the ultra X Wales 50k (up/down Cadair Idris total 1830 m elevation). So, having always wanted to do an ultra, I took his place (three weeks' notice). The furthest I have run this year is 10k! I must be mad, but let's see how my body and mind cope! I ran my first marathon 43 years ago without any training and have not run a marathon for 42 years since I hit the wall. Thanks for the tips, I have also got my precision hydration and nutrition ready, slow and steady is my plan.

[@TrickyMicky123456]

Would be interested to know how you get on. Good luck 😄

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Fuel, electrolytes and grin and bear it. And LUBE

[@stephena1639]

@@TrickyMicky123456 thanks i will post on here if i make it 🥵

[@stephena1639]

@@MarkLewisfitness yes ive got the lube 😅

[@stephena1639]

@@TrickyMicky123456 i just completed the Ultra X Wales 50km yesterday, physically it was very hard as we went up three mountains (1830m to total elevation) i would say it is more mental than physical as i never prepared and i completed my first one, i am 61. if anyone wants to do an ultra they will complete it, preferably do some training 😅

[@spen4christ]

Way to go Jen!! Great channel Mark!

[@conradburdekin722]

I would’ve been on the start line with you both mark, but post Leeds marathon injury scuppered my training. So I’ll be there 2024. Am thinking about the London to Brighton 100k next May though. Thanks, as always, for the inspiration and entertainment 👍👍

[@ahnilatedahnilated7703]

Yeah, I don't want to run 100 feet. I can ride a 100K without issue or even 100miles. But my body is to old and beat up to do running anymore. My Dr. would scream NO!!! at me if I even tried with how bad my knees are. Glad to see you made it Jen! Great work! Great job Mark on not getting yourself tossed in front of a car and knowing Jen's limits. :)

[@MarkLewisfitness]

Cycling is much easier on the body!

[@Kelly_Ben]

It's not about liking getting pounded... running is proven to strengthen the bones and ligaments of the knees. I have bad knees from a car accident as a child. When I don't run, they ache terribly. When I'm running regularly on the trails, even 50ks, I'm pain free, on top of all the fun and challenge trail running brings! It's only a pounding if you're doing it wrong or your knees are already beyond redemption.

[@plowestv]

Bravo Jen and you for putting this out there and for everything you do. I have my first ultra at end of Oct and so found this really helpful. Yes, stopping is the worst eater of time but what if, like me, you have absolutely no time expectation? What should I do, have a picnic? :-) I want to enjoy it as much as i can and have run 44 km a while ago.

[@plowestv]

Loved your closing comments bravo Jen and you and enjoy your holiday 🙂

[@mikaelohlson5120]

Jen, what a champ. Been a firefighter for 30 years and i would never been able to complete in this race 💪.

[@TheChrevil]

The hurdle I came up against was nutrition not eating enough and not consuming enough carbs when doing Ultra's. My current training has me on the trail "The Ceveland Way" part of "The Hardmoors" series of ultra's experimenting with nutrition. Atm training for the Salomon Serpent Trail 100 and I might do the Hardmoors 60.