Can a 'Shura' select an Imam according to Quran? | ep 78 | The Real Shia Beliefs

This episode is from Chapter 6 of The Real Shia Beliefs, an academic lecture series by Sayed Muhammad Baqer Qazwini that examines the core beliefs of Shia Muslims through Quranic verses, hadiths, and rational arguments.
View the complete Chapter 6 (Imamate) here: • Chapter 6: Imamate
Links to previous Chapters:
Chapter 1 (Prelude): • Chapter 01; Prelude
Chapter 2 (Understanding Allah): • Chapter 2: Understandi...
Chapter 3 (Justice of Allah): • Chapter 3: Justice of ...
Chapter 4 (Angels & Prophets): • Chapter 4: Angels & Pr...
Chapter 5 (Belief in Quran): • Chapter 5: Belief in Q...
Things you'll learn in this episode of The Real Shia Beliefs:
00:00 - Why Omar called the appointment of Abu Bakr a ‘Falta’?
04:10 - Was ‘Shura’ method used for second and third caliphs?
06:33 - Why verse 3:159 cannot be accepted as proof for Shura?
10:14 - Problems with Sunni interpretation of verse 42:38
11:45 - Limit of people's control over official matters
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[@angelamaanaki6769]

There always enough light for the one who wishes to see Imam Ali ( as)

[@DaTruth1017]

*Council, Consultation* Ash-Shūrā (Arabic: الشورى, al-shūrā,("Council, Consultation") is the 42nd chapter (sūrah) of the Qur'an (Q42) with 53 verses (āyāt). Its title derives from the question of "shūrā" (consultation) referred to in Verse 38. The term appears only once in the Quranic text (at Q42:38).

[@rabiasaeed2206]

Totally Agree with you Analytical of Quran Evidence about Khalifa. Consensus is for the Governance of Delegation of Authorities for execution of Duties and Task in Running the state as well as household. Educate to unite Umma on a Just Stance of Governance and combatting the Challenges faced Today👀👂🤞🌎📚

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[@angelamaanaki6769]

What of living light of imams ? Are they present on this earth or do you think they are not ? Who is the counsel that approves this status of living Imam ? What is really meant by living imam ? Who is the counselor of the imam ? To who does the imam seek counsel ? Blessed day dear Syed

[@angelamaanaki6769]

Do we know how living light works together as imamat ? Or do we have a narrow vision of imamat ?

[@angelamaanaki6769]

If we truly believe the imams will pray together then maybe we will see things differently … ?

[@tumuugatamaami4833]

I understand the points he’s making, but it’s not a “logical fallacy” though. I do appreciate and get what he’s trying to say however that was Improper usage of the term.

[@mohamadabdelrida2866]

What do you think of Abdullah Hashem Aba Asadiq

[@Thaqlain]

There will be many who will claim to be Imam Mahdi.

[@mohamadabdelrida2866]

@@Thaqlain and one of them will be the true Mahdi. What is your analysis on this case

[@Thaqlain]

When the true ones arrive, the world will know that he has arrived.

[@angelamaanaki6769]

Who chose Prophet Ibrahim ( pbuh ) to be an imam ?

[@Thaqlain]

Allah.

[@JaefarSABNW]

Democracy needs tempered and Islamic rule can't be what they call Political Islam or Popular Islam. How can those three be Rightly Guided Successors, if they knew they came to power in violation of Islamic principles and didn't perfectly exemplify Islamic tradition in their rule. It would eb one thing to have gaps and to be misled into decisions with faulty evidence, but to have problems understanding Islamic behavior at all might disqualify almost all..

[@angelamaanaki6769]

What of Prophet Isa ( pbuh ) he is also a living imam ?

[@Thaqlain]

There are no proofs that he was also given the status of the Imam. Hence the reason Imam Mahdi has higher status than Prophet Isa.

[@angelamaanaki6769]

@@Thaqlainmake Dua and ask Allah and He will answer you blessed day SubhanAllah Mashallah

[@danishhussain2741]

Prophet Esa already informed that there will be a prophet after me name Ahmed do follow him. So he already instructed its mentioned in bible. It is the responsibility of every profit to endorse previous prophets previous havenly books and also inform people for who is comming next as prophet. Prophet Esa instructed to obey Ahmed ( Mohammad)

[@angelamaanaki6769]

Maybe Allah wanted to increase the entire ummah in patience to increase their light ? What are we missing ?

[@JN-eq3gl]

The whole point. You are missing the whole point sir.

[@angelamaanaki6769]

@@JN-eq3gl You have all the answers you need

[@JN-eq3gl]

@@angelamaanaki6769 this religion can only be perfect when the ummah accepts the imams as their leaders. Not just anybody. So no light will increase while being patient with a false khalifa. But yeah light will increase for those who strive for the truth(Ahlulbayt) and pray for their reign.

[@angelamaanaki6769]

@@JN-eq3gl read and study and practice patience Have a blessed day A’Salam alaykum rahmatullah wa barakatu don’t hate something maybe it’s good for you 🌹

[@JN-eq3gl]

@@angelamaanaki6769 indeed. You should also accept the truth when you see it. Even if it hurts. Don't forget Allah is the one that selects His representatives(khalifa) on earth. Or will someone allow just anyone to represent him? Or does 'khalifa' mean representative of the Muslim ummah? No one hates anyone. I am more disappointed at the usurpers than hate. How can they go against the clear instructions of the Prophet(SAWA)... How could they break their covenant made on the event of Ghadir khum. What is this world if not a fleeing period... Was leadership that tempting for them... With that wasalam.

[@user-vd1kz5dg5c]

You are wrong Uthman bin Afan was chosen bay shura third Khalifa you are misgudin your shia people.

[@alawibhb]

Did you even watch the video? Shura doesn’t determine who should be in authority

[@alawibhb]

Surah Ash-Shura (42:38): وَالَّذِينَ اسْتَجَابُوا لِرَبِّهِمْ وَأَقَامُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَأَمْرُهُمْ شُورَىٰ بَيْنَهُمْ وَمِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ ينفِقُونَ Surah Al-Imran (3:159): فَبِمَا رَحْمَةٍ مِّنَ اللَّهِ لِنتَ لَهُمْ وَلَوْ كُنتَ فَظّا غَلِيظَ الْقَلْبِ لَانفَضُّوا مِنْ حَوْلِكَ فَاعْفُ عَنْهُمْ وَاسْتَغْفِرْ لَهُمْ وَشَاوِرْهُم في الْأَمْرِ فَإِذَا عَزَمْتَ فَتَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللّه إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُحِبُّ الْمُتَوَكِّلِين Shura means that the person chosen by Allah can consider others’ opinions to make them feel acknowledged, but ultimately, the person chosen by Allah has the final say and can act as they see fit

[@rouhoullahdiomande3970]

​@@alawibhbHe didn't watch the video. That's a fact.