Can Artificial Intelligence DESTROY Fiverr Forever!?

[@SatoriGraphics]

As some have suggested, it would be a good idea to use a more sophisticated examples of artificial intelligence. So I will probably do round 2 in this exact format at some point in the future

[@aurisbunni]

DALL-E 2 would be a good choice for the task, since it relies on more descriptive prompts. I'm wondering how the result would compare to human-made logo design. Looking forward to that video.

[@DavidJFulde]

@@aurisbunni or Midjourney

[@nugger]

Can you even call that ai? More like a big library of assets being sorted

[@SCtester]

That wasn't AI though, it's just an automated system with what are effectively templates. I would be interested in seeing a comparison with a true AI, something more along the lines of Midjourney.

[@MyDistortedWorld]

Agreed!

[@jamesudotong]

Same here. I was actually expecting DALL-E. Now that would be a worthy opponent!

[@vrm_ravi]

Dalle are other platforms like that are trash. They are generating work by taking references from designer's work from all over the world. that too, without their permission. how you will know if someone download your logo design and take little bit reference from it. They will generate money, while you don't even know about it. There is nothing AI generated. This is Computer Database Generated. Just like shutterstock, google etc. are working.

[@SCtester]

@@vrm_ravi This is false. These models learn about the way things look from databases of images, yes, but what they create is novel and is in no way is akin to searching from a database. For example, it would have been be fed thousands of images tagged as minimalist logos, and from that it learns what as a minimalist logo should generally look like, allowing it to create new images that fit the parameters. Sound familiar? That's basically how humans work. Designers take very strong and direct inspiration from existing work all the time, to an equal if not sometimes greater extend than these AIs.

[@PhotoBomber]

@@vrm_ravi every artist generate their work by taking references from other artists, that too without their permission.

[@aurisbunni]

I don't mean to be conspiratorial, but I doubt that this "AI logo maker" even has AI on it and just piecing out stock iconography and text and mashing those into a bland, unpleasant sludge of wasted potential. They are just riding the AI craze and marketing this online generator as one with artificial intelligence, despite having little to none of it. I might be wrong on this, but I wouldn't be surprise if it is true. This is a great comparison video. It just shows how authenticity, creativity and understanding your intentions are needed when it comes to designing a logo, which AI still need to catch up on. Fiverr: 1, AI: 0.

[@skray664]

i literally can't stop watching your videos , it is so entertaining yet at the same time so educating , i really appreciate the effort you be putting into your videos , The visual feed i get from it is insane , and for that i thank you satori , keep up with this , you are one of a kind

[@SatoriGraphics]

awesome comments like this get a heart, cheers buddy

[@atheneus]

Am I the only one who doesn't like the designer logo? Don't get me wrong, it's really high quality and well thought out. But if feels like a logo for an energy drink or EV company. However, the font he used is just *chef's kiss*

[@edongski]

Same thought here. Probably some basic bike element to show its a bike rental business might be a good start. For a start-up business, the logo doesn't have to be very minimalist and conservative trying to be on par with apple or nike brands. The idea behind is good but it fall short for me to introduce the actual business idea.

[@ULTRAKB1997]

The way that Designer work,from the visuals to the way he present the logo,make me think how much i still need to improve 👏👏👏

[@paulonmallorca]

What a brilliant way to showcase your design. I really loved the fact that he went above and beyond . I don't know whether it was intentional, but the letter K had a very strong "road juntion" imagery. Top class video.

[@SatoriGraphics]

ty Paul

[@Iksy]

Wow... i mean...just...W O W. That designer made my day and inspirated me how to present my designs to clients. Love that design and everything, color and font choice, and i totally understood what he did before explaining. great.

[@surinfarmwest6645]

Tom, the AI was like the multiple guess, I mean choice, questions on the old exam sheet. The designer gave you everything, video questions so you can see the person, and ...... the sales pitch with the design. I wish the gentleman well as he has a great attitude to the whole concept of making the customer feel special. I think a lot of viewers would do well to take note of this designers game plan. Nice logo as well.

[@SatoriGraphics]

As often is the case, I agree with you lol

[@vickyb9918]

I’d love to see the logo you would design for Spokes. The fiverr designer definitely did much better than AI but I think the logo could still be better.

[@momonatu4998]

If I am not wrong, I think the designer did it in 2 days... 2 days!! I think it's good for such little time. I need more time to e creative, if I am completely honest.

[@vickyb9918]

@@momonatu4998 I’d still like to see satori graphics take on this logo. I think it would be great.

[@edongski]

@@momonatu4998 check this filipino graphic designer's design process. He is pretty amazing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpuToaKmd75npJo&ab_channel=dayswithmike

[@cecilialu7]

I always feel AI can make better designs than me, this video gives me much inspirations, thank you so much!

[@123arskas]

For a logo like that, Satori you need to open a brand now for sure. Don't let his logo go to waste now. Your idea of a rental bike is already good enough as a business.

[@SatoriGraphics]

I was thinking about this lol. It is a great design and I liked my business idea. I just don't have the time to expend into something like that right now though

[@123arskas]

@@SatoriGraphics Hope you start a Kickstarter for this by introducing something unique in the bikes one day. Best of luck.

[@SluikReclame]

@@SatoriGraphics i can try to help you out

[@Xtreemo]

I am pretty happy that such a video have surfaced in the fever of this A.I. thingy that showed up on the latest times. I am also a graphic designer and, though I do not work as a freelancer, I love doing logos (I made my own channel logo myself). And part of what design is, has truly been showcased in this video. An A.I. could never replicate the concept that a true human graphic designer is capable of creating, no matter how intelligent or well-coded it is. The human brain is extendable to be thoughtful of many possibilities, but a computer will always stick to his own code and commands - it's 0 or 1. For the human brain, it is 0 to almost infinite. Artificial Intelligence can never replicate what people are able to do. They can be fast, but almost never efficient. All they can do is a generic piece of art, with no soul, no concept, no defense and no creativity.

[@monicachuks1233]

On point. Humans are still the creators, so why belittle your brain or even compare it to what AI can offer

[@betterstayout0]

AI isn't (usually) that creative. But it is a lot faster and cheap. So, even if it isn't better in every way, it still can be considered for some works. Also, the "AI" from the video isn't really an AI like the ones you see everywhere now. DALL-E 2, Midjourney or Stable Difussion are capable of making some tremendous great job for a very low price. I mean, Stable Difussion is even free.

[@marshmalown]

It's a good thing that he added audio explanation to the project but without visualization of the specific ideas and methods, the client may not catch it. That's why I still prefer the usual presentations. Personally I don't like that specific modification of the letter "k", it really distracts me because it doesn't fit and follow the shapes of the other letters.

[@Dian_Borisov_SW]

Everybody *Oh no AI will take over the art industry* Graphic designers *laugh in complex logo design process*

[@inder11111]

I think the designer was really good and communicative, maybe you should link to him and send some love if someone might wanna hire him.

[@PrimonChowdhury]

Near 1 Million. Best of luck bro🤗💝

[@SatoriGraphics]

Thanks man

[@mandeepkrsharma]

That look's like one another icon of budweiser! LOL :P Well, Great Job!!

[@saraahmed-eo7ts]

My favorite part was when you wake up with no shirt, i highly recommend to make a full list when you walk around in your apartment naked 😅😂😂

[@mind-less]

AI: I can design hundreds of logos in seconds! Designer: But can you describe or voice them, inspire feelings, use them in mock-ups, support your outcomes and improve all through revisions? AI: Errr... All your base are belong to us!

[@graphic4solution]

right

[@relaxme2810]

Thank you, I've been looking for a long time

[@SatoriGraphics]

No problem

[@chinmayaosho]

The fiver guy nailed it👌🏻👌🏻

[@SatoriGraphics]

for sure ⭐

[@bbdi548]

Maybe its just me but the logo looks like two pedals, when one is on the top the other is at the bottom, and the “angles” are representing the gear in between the pedals

[@sunilchristian3430]

Thank you! Your content is always helpful. Teaches something in every video.

[@SatoriGraphics]

Happy to hear that!

[@BarKeegan]

A good designer will have control over, and justify every single choice: line direction, curves, shape contrasts, angles, line quality, economy of forms, all,aspects of typography… etc. By the time AI gives you that level of control/direction… you may as well just start using design software

[@sohaibdanish3982]

This video seems like a promotion of that FIverr Logo Designer.

[@SatoriGraphics]

Found him organically and was worth the money

[@mentallyhyp2012]

Personally I think the thing that would have made that really better is to take the right side of the k which has a swoop looking design and flip those and then use that as the logo that is on the left hand side for spokes that would have been the ultimate bow on the design

[@nelyrions1838]

The fiver designer out there, doing 500+ dollar work for a fraction of that.

[@graphic4solution]

right

[@judie9853]

I've using midjourney for couple of months making logo. The result is beyond what you see on the internet, with the right prompt it can creates clean corporate look logos within a minutes. These AIs are great tool if you want to save hundreds of dollars and time wasted by human job!😂

[@judie9853]

@@aazz7386 Absolutely!

[@obiobi782]

I read an article (i forgot somewhere) OpenAI CEO wants to implement Chat GPT to learn fibonacci/golden ratio for making a perfect logo design 🤣

[@Cannzana]

I LOVE your font Shinka 2022! Is it for commercial use after purchase?

[@SatoriGraphics]

Yes it is :) You have the ability to use it anywhere you want, just not to redistribute them

[@kartgal]

But comparing what we currently have isn’t going to work. The question is- is what we will have in 5 years going to affect the need for a platform like Fiverr?

[@NoahtheGameplayer]

I know this video is outdated, but letting you know that when you do chatgpt plus Microsoft AI generator, you can really make a good logo

[@coolclips4503]

How do you think designing for t-shirt printing

[@GOGOAKUMAN]

Nice logo from the designer, but the icon is not balanced with the font, which makes it chaotic.

[@SatoriGraphics]

respect your feedback, cheers

[@t850]

...interestingly designer chose lower stroke on letter "k" instead of upper one. Upper stroke would replicate/echo the silhouette of the icon and therefore reinforce the icon shape within the type...:)

[@yasserelhor8912]

great effort from you

[@Dippps]

Also the Spokes you can turn letter k so it touch e and o and tyeres literally bicycle shape

[@TysonFMolemela]

Who's the artist referenced at 9:06?? Someone please share the name, would love to check out their work.. Thank you

[@Wattoh]

I think you need to redo this challenge but using one of the more sophisticated ai platforms such as MidJourney and Dall-E. Because using some lame multiple choice logo generator isn’t the same as what we are competing with now as artists and designers…

[@SatoriGraphics]

Good point, and yes I will look into redoing this at some point.

[@doodoodoometal]

Logos created in MidJourney are horrible. Haven't used DALL-E

[@Wattoh]

@@doodoodoometal They are yeah, but with prompt tweaking they create some amazing unique pieces that as a designer you can just tidy up. It throws out some ideas and patterns and strokes and concepts that would take a designer days/weeks to come up with and create.

[@Wattoh]

@@SatoriGraphics I’d love to see that! I think the problem with these challenges is that it doesn’t show how quickly the ai can produce amazing results vs how long it takes a fiver designer to produce something similar, which costs a client money and takes time.

[@momonatu4998]

AIs are not doing well, ahahah. I haven't tried yet with MidJourney, but I can tell for sure Dall-E can't reproduce any kind of symbols, meaning letters etc. It's a complete disaster!

[@HomeAutoBuddy]

What was/are the artist name on fiverr! That was so inspiring for me to look at.

[@darkest_magnum]

The Ai is making it look like every client should have adequate knowledge about logo design before requesting their service. And that's not good.

[@graphic4solution]

@@xxxxdddddss ai vector meaningful logo is important to researchable matter

[@GORDONRECORD]

Wow i just love this review

[@SatoriGraphics]

Glad you liked it, cheers!

[@shobi2642]

your videos are always the value of my time thanks for you effort

[@SatoriGraphics]

Glad you like them!

[@sinahajipoor3656]

I like this presentation

[@SatoriGraphics]

hey thanks Sina

[@GORDONRECORD]

The guy did a great job there

[@SatoriGraphics]

He really did, I liked this logo a lot

[@darkest_magnum]

Stayed true to "minimalism"

[@VaibhavShewale]

that paid AI was such a rip off, a free AI would had done so much better. and that freelancer is so much talented is such awesome!

[@kingnasir]

A.I will never Ever take over graphic design no matter how good it gets and to just put it simply A.I doesn't understand any emotion like the dude mentioned in his video

[@CooperCraig]

Is there a link to that Fivver account? That guys was impressive for what I have seen on Fivver!

[@justine4338]

I have mp3 format s and i want to make it puncNice tutorialer plzz help buddy

[@UIeffe]

You should have used AI like dall-e or midjourney to create the logo.

[@Shinesart]

I don't think you'll get what you want cause Mid Journey and Dell E are more like painting AI. You will still have to adjust your self even if it got something close to what you want. And if you are a client that don't really know how to use Photoshop or don't really want to do it themselves even if it's just changing things then it would be better to commission it to the designer.

[@remusg29]

What keyboard do you have?

[@strengthbydesign]

Sorry didn’t like either of the logos and the keywords that the Fiverr designer kept using in his presentation was a little generic, emotion etc. used in every single logo presentation ever. Slanted forward logo for speed, movement has that ever been done before?

[@ch-taha786]

Love from Pakistan

[@SatoriGraphics]

Hey thanks! I hope you haven't been affected by the floods there..

[@ch-taha786]

@@SatoriGraphics yes sir i am not effected ☹️😟

[@hibiscusflower5911]

9:07 who is Saji Heavy?

[@benedictafiemo7989]

The designer should probably review his prices. 😁

[@NotRyan.]

That website looks like those other free ready made logo design website. They have everything ready just Changes the company name to your given name.

[@ALAMIN-yn4wb]

Thanks your fantastic idea

[@SatoriGraphics]

Thanks and welcome

[@abdelkarimlahlou2561]

it looks like the Scott logo

[@noahgeerdink5144]

I feel like this AI app is made by a software developer, not a designer. If a world-class Brand identity designer would design a process for an AI program I think it would be able to compete with real designers.

[@Amrith369]

I would give midjourney a try. Their AI takes your description and gives you basically that. Additionally you can upscale or request variations for a Specific iteration.

[@momonatu4998]

Usually AIs are not good with symbols. I doubt strongly.

[@mattsmith1126]

I have tried to make good logos in AI and they are generally not very good. They have trouble understanding the point

[@sthefaniahenao8251]

Ah dayum!! Official.

[@edongski]

Probably some basic bike element to show its a bike rental business might be a good start. For a start-up business, the logo doesn't have to be very minimalist and conservative trying to be on par with apple or nike brands. The idea behind is good but it fall short for me to introduce the actual business idea.

[@momonatu4998]

This is true. If I see it, I don't have a clue what business it is about. If you leave it that way you have to add at least "bike rental", because it's a start-up and nobody knows what s that.

[@cephasweror]

Designer for the win🏆🏆🏆 🙌 I know there are a lot of A.i. software that can do a better job (Doll-E) than the one you used but designer always have an edge because of han feeling 🤩

[@n3ff848]

Your first mistake is, to assume the fiverr designer isn't using AI created logos himself.

[@ajesterhuyse478]

Please share the fiverr designer's name !!!!!!

[@luttappithereddevil2741]

Love from kerala😄

[@TheOneAboveAll-001]

Use the human design logo and start that company!

[@wamiqsiddiqui2395]

I pretty much agree to you theories but this time in my opinion the designer didn't had a good explanation for what he had designed and wasn't really clear with choice he had made. I found the designer's logo quite generic and it didn't really conveyed any strong connection with the brand's message.

[@Masda.X]

Plot Twist: Fiver Designer used AI to make a logo as well.

[@bySterling]

Wow this guy went above and beyond indeed! And the AI logo was embarrassing

[@TysonFMolemela]

Well done to the designer, but i feel that he could've fleshed out more use cases for the logo..

[@mdnuralom711]

love the video

[@TrollProductionsMC]

Please use Midjourney AI for the logo's it's a legit AI not some logo maker, I have seen people testing logo's and it's just incredible, the quality and creativity.

[@ahmedsuleiman1130]

Great one as always. The best option always win, even albeit, AI will do its part too. Thanks for this solid video, Satori.

[@yarpenzigrin1893]

There was no AI in this.

[@folver91]

This designer just made some chances on the Zwift logo to make it look like an S intead of Z. Even the color of choice is the same

[@BLITZftw]

The designer is good at marketing 😂.

[@synriser6742]

Probably already in the comments below but this is not an AI generator. I tried to create your logo and ended up with a good looking design using a real AI engine. I think AI can be a great tool to generate ideas. Just try Stable Diffusion/Midjourney or Dall-E..Logo designers are not in danger but can use AI to there own benefit. Using the right tools to save time and make there workflow more efficient .

[@mugheesahmed588]

Machines cannot beat human power of thinking

[@nurakmal5130]

too simple logo now is quite generic, the logo from the fiverr seller is very similar to one of brand I know "Sicepat" from Indonesia.

[@rocktheeedge3769]

Font is good but logo is unsatisfied

[@casualtake1497]

Should have used Midjourney or Dall E

[@tp7495]

I'm pretty sure that AI was just a simple logo generating website with limited resources of icons but let's be honest the fiverr designer was bull***ing about the design. The typography is nice but the icon is generic without giving even a tiny hint about the fact that it was for a bike renting app.

[@noobatredstone3001]

The icon doesn’t need to explain everything.

[@bajiraosingham9495]

He's not bullshitting at all, it's a very clever idea actually. If you take that lightening looking shape, switch its fill with stroke, make several copies and rotate them all slightly... you'll get your spokes. It's one of the most basic principles of minimalistic logo design to make it simpler (Check out Sagi Haviv's videos and course). One more great example is Instagram logo. They manage to make the icon look like a Camera just by using 2 circles and is VERY minimal compared to previous Skeuomorphic design (Which was pretty good to begin with)

[@tp7495]

@@noobatredstone3001 No? Then how should I know if I'm opening my financing app or my bike renting app?

[@tp7495]

@@bajiraosingham9495 Yeah, and if I twist my chair's legs twice and I look from above they also look like spokes. The Instagram logo is the worst example you could compare to this. In the Instagram logo the camera is still obvious in the icon. The Instagram logo as it is now it develoed thru a pretty long time. At first it's icon was detailed polaroid camera till the company becoma as well known as the icon could be simpified. Start up company logos should be more self explanatory. Self explanatory doesn't mean it can't be minimalistic.

[@noobatredstone3001]

@@tp7495 maybe you know what “spokes” means, and/or are capable of recognizing a shape

[@ekremnerede]

Artificial intelligence has to go a long way. The artificial intelligence used seemed to me to slap customers rather than to produce a solution :)

[@sagamar4356]

I know the point of the video is different, but I feel like the fiverr design could also have been much better. Personally the logo leaning towards the type is visually upsetting to me and the corners of the bolt cutting the icon in two is also drawing too much of my attention. The visual balance also feels off. But for 2 days of work I suppose its fine

[@blenderblender792]

I would make the S in spokes part of the logo INstead of doing "S Spokes"

[@SatoriGraphics]

I personally don't agree with that. I've covered that technique in other videos

[@tonibenzino]

dalle-2 ,GPT3, that was not an AI company so its not a fair choice

[@whengrapespop5728]

Great presentation, but I have to be honest and say that the logo is not particularly memorable at all.

[@negbob]

Thank you for the video. Human 1, AI 0

[@digwillhachi]

i keep trying to get logo ideas out of midjouney. This (not)AI service was trash but the Fiverr guy was great.

[@ellenripley4837]

if you try an actual ai like midjourney you'll noticed that ai does a good job at generating ideas but not that great at creating a final product.

[@block8-espinosa874]

1st😎

[@SatoriGraphics]

🏅 kudos Block 8

[@yousignature1831]

😍😍

[@SatoriGraphics]

👍👍

[@Casualfulltime]

The kerning is a nightmare on the "paid" logo. Seriously - all look terrible and straight off Graphic River.

[@teabagNBG]

these ai are perfect to get ideas... find one and edit it and make it urs LOL

[@guyfawkes8384]

All that work designing a logo, making a presentation video, for $116? These people must be starving.

[@edongski]

Its just the way he wants to level up his playing field. Competition is hard nowadays with regards to getting clients.

[@guyfawkes8384]

@@edongski I get it. I realized once Fiver came around that graphic designing for the smaller guys was a dead industry, I just didn't realize how dead it was. That's why I worked to open a graphics shop, there's no other way of making good money as a designer.

[@rvft]

This video is entirely biased. The example "AI" logo generator has nothing to do with AI, it's just a basic knockoff of the Namecheap's FREE logo maker. Also the logo designer is just talking bunch of garbage. The design is cool, but unnecessary talk doesn't make it any better.

[@monaabdalrazak8169]

Like it 😀

[@SatoriGraphics]

cool thanks for letting me know :D

[@StreetSmartMillionaire]

All the video comments would have been great if that design was better than the AI but it was not even close and my guess is that he used ai to make it.

[@SatoriGraphics]

I liked it

[@jeffreyuthale6193]

Nice Human -1 AI - 0