Can Autotune Fix BAD SINGING?? 🎤🔥 BEFORE & AFTER

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[@ReidStefanMusic]

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[@J0hn-animatez]

Bro, this is just like what Taylor swift does to sound “good” 🤣😂🤣😂

[@skmanhwa1]

What is this , which app or website is this brother hmm???😅

[@bryangrunauer]

I really did not think that "i said ooooo" could be saved lol Impressive work

[@reno5159]

It’s not impeccable work. It’s being cheap and not paying a vocalist. Even on a budget there’s loads of ppl who’d happily work for free. Auto tune sucks all the life out of music…

[@reno5159]

It’s no different than a rapper using chat GPT to make a beat instead of paying an actual producer🤷‍♂️

[@wetrat159]

@@reno5159 hear me out you have that sound had a little more reverb and distortion you could have robot voice throw that on a mic you and jam some robot funk

[@reno5159]

@@wetrat159 might as well get a vocoder at that point aha. Auto tune does have a place I’d admit that but it’s wayyyy too overused. Actually sick of it nd I ain’t even a old head!! I’m 19 ffs. I have no idea how ppl listen to that shit!! Ear piercing

[@reno5159]

@@wetrat159 if your using it creatively then big ups but like I said u can always get a vocoder.. that gives you way more creative freedom to mash up sound plus its fun as fuck hahah. Spent way too much time screaming into a mic tryna make some weird pads or sum shit hahah. Dillinja famously used to use a microphone with an E6400 sampler to make some fucked up sounds too. Auto tunes aight if your skint cracking plugins nd doing mad effects chains but yeh I can have hours of fun pissing about on a micro korg

[@peterhall728]

There should be a Grammy for best Audio Engineer. The real stars of today's music industry.

[@TheNinetySecond]

There are two categories that directly cite the engineer(s), four that can and often are awarded to engineers (including a specific lifetime award) and two that are specifically awarded for best engineering.

[@andreassumerauer5028]

Well, there is a technical Grammy award that is presented to individuals or companies who have made an outstanding technical contribution to the music industry. The one for pitch correction software is sitting on Peter Neubecker's desk in Munich, Germany - Since 2012! However, the Grammy he got was not for Autotune. Peter Neubecker is the inventor and brain behind the pitch correction software Melodyne. Melodyne is still hardly known outside the industry. That's probably because its work doesn't leave any traces. (I may be exaggerating a bit). And while fact checking my comment I found that Andy Hildebrandt, the inventor of Autotune was awarded his own Grammy only a couple of weeks ago in February this year. Congregulations!

[@peterhall728]

well,well,well .Thanks for the updates chaps. Didn't know that.

[@DRez-Productions]

I love a cappella❤

[@princesssolace4337]

@@andreassumerauer5028 Thanks mate. I came from the times of Yamaha 02R + Alesis ADAT + Boss DR5 + Eventide Ultra Harmonizer + Digitech DSP + ADA mp1 + JCM800 and 2pc SM57 and a Beta as my home studio and needed to rent a professional Pro Tools suite to tidy things up , I have no clue on the BS of auto tune when I retired in 2013. Imagine ,having to start on a tape recorder and later a Tascam 4 track in 92 .... people like myself wud find the auto tune wud be beneficial in cutting costs of needing to re-record sumthin and waste time and resources in the studio. With all the tech software that is available today, it's purty frustrating to hear the rubbish of 2023 that is coming through the music industry. Thanks again for the info

[@terrygreen6088]

These days the audio engineers are the real artist's give em the credit they deserve

[@squidoodalee]

100%, the producers and engineers are the ones with real skill most of the time (there are exceptions).

[@bmthornell]

Yep it’s a shame

[@koalifix6501]

Actually, they give him credit, but just enough credit to not suffer by all the fame the artist posseses

[@sarthakjain1824]

Famous singers do not have to write their own lyrics and they do not have to know how to sing

[@funnylawre]

​@@squidoodalee it used to not be Now it's just facts

[@Ishisu-KitsuneChaos]

Makes you wonder how often we hear singers real voices.

[@ReidStefanMusic]

🤷🏼‍♂️

[@mingisfixon6452]

Its their real voices just pitch corrected. Its also always better to pitch correct a better take than a worse one so I doubt most singers r this bad. I will say tho, almost ALL studio recorded vocals nowadays are pitch corrected. For popular music, it straight up just sounds better since everything else is also usually perfectly on pitch, unlike in a live setting. But there are definitely artists who rlly crumble live and/or cannot ever sound similar to the studio vocals live, and those r the arists who I think benefit the most from pitch correction and other vocal editing effects.

[@thunderlighting2006]

Almost never cuz even artist that can actually sing they do 100s recordings of the same song and take the best words to make the perfect version of one song the youtuber "Sideways" has a great video if you want to know more

[@krysen1356]

Yeah but like, if you wanna show actually what autotune sound like dont add reverb

[@michaelsoftbinbows]

Basically never, live performances are even pitch corrected nowadays. Not that it's always a bad thing, it's just a fact of music. Mind you a lot of these people are still great singers, tpain cops so much crap for his usage of autotune but he's actually great

[@khyronkravshera7774]

That's why so few singers will sing Acapella in public.

[@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s]

They're all trash these days. Except opera stars. They're gods

[@kamariahahmad3082]

​@@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.si see no cap here 👍

[@_1DK_]

soulless modern music industry be like:

[@superdupersanik]

​@@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s fax

[@boredalot]

Talented music industry die with the 80s. Sure 90s was nice, with funky rhythm and everything else, but you could see the decay was starting.

[@olitheman2782]

Every TikTok musician been real quiet since this dropped

[@death0256]

Check out my music if you have time 🔥🔥 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXellGqtnb-Np6M&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

[@Iam_inevitabIe]

Bro this hood ass comment is funny as fuck😂

[@nawarahanaf2348]

Underrated af

[@ericolens3]

ooooooooh burn!

[@gurlshutup69695]

except for Bella Poarch and Madison Beer cuz theyre the ones who can actually sing

[@piranhaplantX]

This is why I respect artists who are honest about doing it on any level, doubly so if they officially give credit to their editors or do that themselves.

[@StolenPw]

so nobody

[@80snead]

​@@StolenPw no there are a whole shit load of peolle who didnt use auto tune...every artist before auto tune was invented...qnd thats why new music sucks, any no talent dipshit can get a grammy nowa days

[@lilliefan1305]

@@StolenPw facts

[@piranhaplantX]

@@StolenPw I'd say that most electronic artists I listen to don't really hide it. Granted vocals aren't their main selling point anyway, but still.

[@Dentson]

Look up sideways, he did a whole video about it

[@TheDUDE101GOOD]

You just exposed the industry 😂

[@veryupstandinguy]

How ? We all knew singers used autotune in their songs

[@privateuploads5397]

they've been exposed for so long lol

[@n8wolf575]

exposed ? everyone with a brain with more than 20 cells knows that.

[@leaivv]

No he did not

[@leaivv]

Also what‘s is the problem with Autotune ?

[@thewalliest3956]

You can always tell when a good singer is faking bad singing. Their first instinct is to hit the right notes so they have to continuously consciously think about a different tune and hit pitches on that.

[@MaresBarres]

Yeah, I wish he got a bad singer to do this because when the music in that particular key was stripped away, he didn’t sound that bad. But I guess it’s awkward asking a bad singer to sing for them because they’re so bad.

[@TeslabladePlaysMC]

It also really shows with how good of a voice he has and used as this example, a bad singer wouldn't have a trained singing voice and auto tune can't do anything to fix a bad singing voice, regardless.

[@chochuD72]

Huh

[@theedslanky1235]

the hardest thing you can ask an experienced musician to do is sound like a beginner

[@valconir1619]

Guys, bad singer not necessarily or not exactly a tune deaf person.

[@seapeajones]

I about hollered when "I said ooooooh" came on w/ no music. Your boy is magic.

[@ReidStefanMusic]

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[@Big-Papa-Smurf]

This is why I appreciate artists who credit their producers. Even if they don't want to be credited, they should anyway. Sound engineers should go into the business knowing there's a chance they will become famous as well.

[@LinkEX]

I previously thought that autotune couldn't actually fix bad singing, but this video seemingly proves the opposite. That's actually a huge opportunity for people that don't have the skills to be a performer, but are ready to put in the work to learn some sound engineering. If you're more about delivering ideas and lyrics, you can make it work that way.

[@adamwitham8229]

Or just appreciate artists that don't use autotune.

[@ReidStefanMusic]

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[@Tapeoftheforgotten]

When he said "Ooooooo" i felt that 🔥

[@surlo69]

this is why some artist never do live concerts

[@fabbo5556]

Like who

[@surlo69]

@@fabbo5556 i dont know one off my head but i know if they just use autotune theyre gonna sound terrible at live concerts.

[@fabbo5556]

@surlo these days they use live-autotune so they should be able to perform live even tho they're not that good singers

[@fruitygranulizer540]

@@surlo69 u know live autotune is a thing right?

[@PauLimbi]

👍 and 80% is prerecorded and lip-synced anyway. Even very good singers who don't need autotune don't sing live anymore. Or am I wrong?

[@Brolly-Unleashed]

And this is how you know the people at the top of the music industry are there because of what they are willing to do, not how good they sing or rap.

[@ectoplasma5]

Sad but true.

[@DoktrDub]

Rainbow Colored grills and controversy, pretty much yeah.

[@UniqueMappingSequence]

you should listen to pink floyd's have a cigar song. it talks about this topic and the whole album is literally about that, with the cover art being two businessmen shaking hands while one is on fire. the song is from 1975 btw and still is relatable

[@Brolly-Unleashed]

@UniqueMappingSequence I'll have to swing over and take a gander at pink Floyd thanks for the suggestion.

[@ReidStefanMusic]

Music is part of the entertainment industry. The entertainment industry cares about how entertaining you are, now how well “classically trained” you are.

[@FallsNight]

South Park with Randy Marsh being Lorde really did this perfect as well. "Lordes' music actually sounds good." "Thanks. But it sounds even better after I use Auto tune."

[@united5220]

Lorde Lorde Lorde, I am Lorde

[@TimeFadesMemoryLasts]

Lordylorde

[@mubafaw]

Jheez! Audio/Sound engineers, producers, are the real MVP's these days! Everyone behind the scenes really. Good work.

[@the_r4ts]

You have good timbre even if you intentionally sang the pitches badly. Which helps a lot bc autotune can't fix that ^^

[@troywright359]

Fixing pitch isn't the same as literally changing someones voice into singing. But i don't think the uploader acknowledges that

[@scifi_shop]

A.I can do all of this now. In fact you don't even need a singer. You can both generate bad singing and generate auto tuned versions of it.

[@JerryLikeTheMouse]

"Intonation" is the wrong word. That means pitch, or singing in tune. "Tone" or "placement" is how he positions his voice so the timber sounds good.

[@akpokemon]

@@JerryLikeTheMouse tru dat, teemo

[@aibi5532]

​@@scifi_shop any more info about that?

[@ravenna6543]

And that's not even the engineer trying. That's an engineer that's high asf with his homies making meme songs and just fuckin' around. That engineer would make you sound like a pro if he were being paid.

[@KasumiRINA]

That's... literally sound engineer's job? Like the entirety of their work is making professional sound. Pointing that out is like saying "oh that chef would make you a cake like a pro if he was paid". Like yeah, that's why it's his job. Duh. Lol.

[@TheSilversepiroth]

The harmony also helps to hide potential audio hiccups in the autotuning (barring catastrophic ones like a clear cut where it shouldn't be) so it sounds even more natural

[@piemaniac9410]

It definitely doesn't sound natural at all, though it does sound a lot better if you're going for a produced sound. There's noticeable reverb, and obviously a singer can't naturally harmonize with themselves, plus there's no timing difference between all the different vocal tracks as there would be if they recorded the line multiple times (even the best singers would be off +/- a few MS, even with a metronome).

[@Coblasteus]

"I SAID OOOOHHHHHHH AMM BLINDED BY THE LIGHTS" release the version without autotune, for memes

[@Rock-Bottem1982]

People don't actually understand how many "artists" are 100% autotuned.

[@LovelessMilo]

Ok but auto tune go hard AF if done right

[@SomeCowguy]

​@@LovelessMilo but a better voice always sounds more natural

[@AlfaJuegaYT]

So writing lyrics, comopisng melodies and doing all the tune process shown in the vídeo is not enough just because they don't have the perfect singing voice?

[@Geozuks]

Don't tell us, you're one of the 1% who actually understand, so smart

[@Ormathon]

Quite easy to notice if a "artist" is autotuned or not, during live concerts. Most of them cant remember all of their songs and suddenly badly mouth the song or they start singing something else or go "yeah!" etc to hype the crowd or whatever but the singer still "sings" in the music. Their real singing voice through the mic sounds completly different then the song since the song has been so heavily tweaked.

[@YegaSRT]

And people wonder why we have new pop stars on the radio every 15 min.

[@cleanlyjarl122]

😂😂😂😂 honestly though 😂😂😂

[@alejandrinos]

Who the hell listens to the radio in 2023?

[@YegaSRT]

@@alejandrinos ikr!

[@guilladogui8259]

its never been about the singing but the melodies anything can sound good in the right melody the ppl that write the songs get more credit

[@kingiument4627]

@@alejandrinos uh most people?

[@JVM42069]

honestly it all depends on how skilled the producer is

[@nils2660]

It's the mixing engineer and if the performance is ass autotune can make a huge difference but the idea and concept of the song is far more important

[@JVM42069]

@@nils2660 ya but I just mean how good the auto tune is depends on how skilled the producer is...if you'd ask me to autotune I'd prob just slap some reverb on xD

[@bmthornell]

@@JVM42069 producer makes the beats. Engineer mixes audio and adds fx

[@Peron1-MC]

@@nils2660 i mean i feel like the idea and concept of the songs rarely are very original. its either, party get drunk or singing about some girl or something. not very interesting. the singer is as much an instrument as the rest of the band and should not be more important.

[@89MazzaUK]

Both fascinated and disgusted at the same time

[@dineshtosh]

Reminds of that legendary guy who roasted judges on rejection by saying. ""That's why you use autotune and I don't.""

[@AidenLafleur]

OMG YEESSSSS

[@ErinShellyMason]

dude shouldve been a comedian cuz his ratios were way better than his singing

[@Val-w8i]

YEAH

[@TheSadsham]

that roast was for demi lovato, who was one of the judges. and she totally deserved it

[@WhyAllHandlesAreTaken]

Can anybody send me the link pls or the title?

[@m4j0r3x]

Bro exposing the entire western music industry Edit: aye i forgor bunch of kpop and jpop also copied them doing this shit lmao

[@joshjones6536]

For pop garbage and the like, I agree ☝️

[@rohanb2711]

That's why I listen to music made by musicians and not by producers and editors

[@ittybittybunnymilkies6577]

​@@rohanb2711 well you're missing out then

[@FireGriffon]

Nah, not just western, have you heard how much auto tune they use in east Asia?

[@trulsdirio]

If by the entire western music industry you mean the few artists that are in the pop charts you might be into something

[@ThePandaAgenda]

“Oooooh, I’m drowning out my terrible pitch”

[@_Potahto_]

lmao

[@jaxstewart1860]

How would they be able to make this video if he had perfect pitch?

[@ThePandaAgenda]

@@jaxstewart1860 just a friendly reminder that perfect pitch does not necessarily affect your ability to sing well. also, being able to hit notes wrong on purpose would make the cleaning later much easier. Do you really think melodyne does everything for you?

[@jayok7609]

Real talent is rare. Alot of the current people in the music industry are manufactured.

[@ReidStefanMusic]

Real talent is often boring, and a lot of current people in the music industry are entertaining

[@jayok7609]

@@ReidStefanMusic if you say so 🤷‍♂️

[@notsop1]

@@ReidStefanMusici hope you’re joking 😂

[@ReidStefanMusic]

it was a joke, but it's also partially true in entertainment

[@ThePinkHellion]

@@ReidStefanMusicyeah see you’re not wrong though. Fucking ai music is more entertaining at times

[@Senski_]

the raw vocal went hardddd

[@ReidStefanMusic]

Thanks maybe I’ll sing more covers 😅

[@brandonjohannes7919]

@@ReidStefanMusic Raw was definitely better. While the final definitely had more accurate notes, it was overprocessed.

[@woffe8094]

@@brandonjohannes7919 nah bruh u trippin

[@WilliamWizer]

my mother needs to hear about this. she will be able to sing without causing a flood.

[@Cindy99765]

Offer her paid singing lessons

[@WilliamWizer]

@@Cindy99765 been there. done that. still paying psychoanalist bills because the teacher got traumatized. that's how bad she sings.

[@puppude]

🍑🌊

[@RF-Ataraxia]

​@@WilliamWizerShould've offered Death Metal singing lessons instead

[@wesunknown8764]

Lol my mother also lol hahaha

[@GmonkeyJ777]

This was amazing! Thank you for sharing with us 🧡

[@Iceplays11]

Double it and give it to the next person

[@Heavenly_Asura]

​@@Iceplays11 😂😂

[@krisbrown4761]

This is not autotune. This is pitch correction. They are not the same thing. You have to be able to somewhat sing for autotune to sound decent. He juet corrected your voice where you were out of key and layered it with pitched vocal tracks.

[@revuutube]

Not bad, the harmonies and reverb in the end really are the secret sauce it seems

[@mikul3122]

I say get rid of harmonies, yes to some reverb. I feel like harmonies only sound good when it’s a whole different take.

[@verticalhamburger9517]

@@Dont_click_this_profile-v8j KK, I won't. Thanks for warning me.

[@RealFaodail]

@@mikul3122 exactly

[@EP591]

This is exactly how industry plants are made

[@solomonapodaca7979]

This is exactly how every piece of music is made, it’s the industry standard

[@UniqueMappingSequence]

lifeless music, copied lyrics and no meaningful message. just copy and paste lyrics with the same generic beats that every modern artists use.

[@sheldoncharlot]

an industry plant is a signed artist that pretends they’re independent

[@brayerkh]

@@solomonapodaca7979 Nah, not every piece of music. There’s PLENTY of rock and metal bands out there that are just as good live as they are in the studio.

[@brayerkh]

@@solomonapodaca7979 But in the mainstream industry, especially pop and rap, more often than not, you would be correct.

[@aidanemmy]

bro sang the most out of tune but tried so hard to enunciate correctly, that's why it sounds good

[@mogmason6920]

Yeah try this with someone like William Hung and see what happens!

[@pirilon78]

Well yeah did you just expect him to start barking and try to save it or some shit? "He didnt sing horrible enough" 🤓

[@flamedash2837]

​@@pirilon78 😂😂😂 exactly

[@BLAZEVENTURA904]

What's the point of even trying to sing if your diction is so bad that no one can understand you.

[@rbnzo25]

Yeah the point is literally anyone could enunciate correctly.

[@subaqueousReach]

Fun fact: No matter who you are or what music you listen to, all of your favorite artists use pitch correction and have since the 70s and 80s. This has saved the music industry thousands of hours of your favorite artist not being able to sing their song properly over and over again.

[@risingdead5721]

Not metal musicians, honey

[@subaqueousReach]

@risingdead5721 they sure do, sweetheart 😘

[@risingdead5721]

@@subaqueousReach so, how do you know that?

[@subaqueousReach]

@risingdead5721 Because it's common knowledge? I know it's fun and trendy to hate on autotune, but pitch correction is just another post-production effect that's used in the recording process in every genre of music. Singers don't always hit every note perfectly, and what might sound fine during the recording session may come through differently in the recording itself. Rather than haul everyone back into the studio to try again and again until its exactly how they want it (which costs a lot of money and time), they just bump the off notes to where they should be and call it a day. 90% of the time you hear pitch correction, it's a slight adjustment, and you don't even realize it's there. And if you constantly hear pitch correction effects in a song, it's usually on purpose, because they're using it as an effect in the same way a guitar uses distortion.

[@risingdead5721]

@@subaqueousReach But then how do metal songs sound creepingly close to the studio version, during live shows?😰

[@charliepea]

Sound engineers carried artists to the Top 1 charts. It's sad that they never got any credit even when all their hard work had millions of streams.

[@krimsonk-9478]

If they are paid well and get a ton of work within the industry i am willing to bet they dont actually miss the stress of being famous.

[@jeff2209]

Sound engineers get paid high consistent salaries whether they help produce a dud or a stud

[@ohno7153]

you know they get paid right

[@HarmonicaMustang]

​@@jeff2209 Wrong. A sound engineer must have a good personal touch in order to be successful. Every sound engineer is taught the same basic skills on getting a technically good result, but it's their style of mixing that will earn them a living. If you don't have an attractive style or god-level connections, you're out of business. It is incredibly cut-throat.

[@fate8007]

miley cyrus can't sing?

[@Lightning_Lance]

I think this made me realize it's not autotune that sounds bad to me, it's when the harmonics are too perfect that a song sounds bad to me.

[@hihey229]

​@@TheBANDit_67 There are a lot of reasons why AI may not replace musicians but that is not one of them. It's trivial, generating something in accordance to a specified tuning system

[@poodychulak]

Overproduction, essentially. Not every vocal track needs to be Pentatonix

[@Frodinir]

harmonics or harmonies?? two very different things but autotune can distort natural harmonics

[@Ben-rz9cf]

Yeah. Skillfully done autotune is not even noticeable to the layman. Its when you quantize peoples vocals so perfectly to a grid that no human could ever hit those notes that it sounds thin and artificial. Real perfect pitch has vibrato and blends between notes without just jumping to the next frequency.

[@JoE_Songs]

yep, it became a style in music now, since 10-15 years. so far as to singes who can actually sing, use it to sound conform and "modern". it's exhausting, it's everywhere.

[@VanWolf]

Alternate title: Speedrunning Billboards Top 40 techniques

[@terryriley6410]

Not really. Noone gets on the billboard just because they can use autotune.

[@KieraQ0323]

they have to be hot too

[@terryriley6410]

@@KieraQ0323 Noone gets on the billboard solely because they are hot and can use autotune.

[@pickle6183]

@@terryriley6410 bro thats like more than 50% of artists. a lot of famous "singers" are garbage at singing, but their lyrics and autotune carry them to fame

[@use_r4053]

shut up fc n

[@ryanj9460]

Bro your videos are Lifesavers I appreciate you helping the beginners

[@kylenigro5850]

Jonathan Davis said it best when he talked about sound engineers deserving awards over the artist that actually get them.

[@Enablefog]

Ya

[@hart.felt-]

John is an incredible vocalist, so it makes sense he’s also a self aware vocalist lol

[@_Ch1llz]

@@hart.felt- listening to Korn rn lol

[@whengrapespop5728]

Now that A.I. can do the job, talent’s gonna be rare to come by.

[@Enablefog]

Pfft 😂

[@RecraftedS]

Not you exposing the whole singing industry 💀

[@mescko]

Another reason why I love choral and a capella music. 1) Talent, 2) practice, 3) *can't hide*

[@ieatgarbage8771]

👱🏻‍♀️

[@alberto6169]

Honestly I don't give a shit as long as it sounds good lol

[@odw32]

If it's a recording, you can autotune it. There's no reason why a capella singing can't be post-processed.

[@jackjoon3516]

​@@odw32 fr this guy is an idiot.

[@leoneyamada5408]

You can pretty easily tell if a song has autotune or not.... By simply listening to there bare voice. If a singer sounds DRASTICALLY different in the song compared to every other time they speak its probably autotune... Also not all artists even use autotune. And why does it matter if they did or didnt... If a song is fire do you think i give a damn if it was written and edited by someone else? Because its the same for a movie.... The iron man movies are made of more then just rdj but the name rdj is what people go to movies for now. He is the face of marvel but everything he did was written, directed, and edited by a giant mega corporation of people..... And i guarantee you you cant name a single person that made iron man that isnt an actor or director.... Its not cuz you dont value there work it just doesnt matter

[@georgeprice4212]

Only thing is, Auto Tune WAS NOT intended to be a fallback for correcting vocals! It was actually just originally supposed to be a VOCAL EFFECT! Now, it’s all….this.

[@Danokh]

Nope, it's in the name, it was made to correct vocals

[@heisenfu]

​@@Danokh I encourage you to watch Sideways video on autotune and pitch correction :)

[@TrillahGorilla]

Well this is complete horse shit... The effect was a byproduct that came long after its use as a correction tool.

[@ultimatedrive8657]

We watched manual tune. Auto tune is for vocal assistance.

[@johnmartinez9220]

Lmao true, but if someone has a good idea but bad voice, don't let that stop you 😂

[@ryanpohl2709]

This is why I appreciate raw vocals so much. Too many ‘artists’ nowadays are just talentless hacks. All props to the sound engineers though, y’all are so good you can make any trash wannabe rapper with ‘lil’ in their name somehow sound competent.

[@WhatsInAName718]

To be fair, not being able to sing doesn't make you a talentless hack. I've played instruments for years and produce music, travel the world etc, but i can't sing, I'd love to be able to, but i can't, and relying on people for vocals can be a fruitless task, if you can sing your own lyrics and autotune them to sit your own beat and make a banger, thats still talent

[@joseph3720j]

no, i appreciate synthesizer cause it sounds more modern and do-able than the raw vocals.

[@DeathGav576]

if you like people who can hit some good raw vocals, check out brakence. specifically his punk2 album. man can hit a falsetto as good as Freddy Mercury and his production work is phenomenal

[@Nobody-pc7fq]

Exactly. This is why I love metal so much, you only find skill in good metal bands. Other than the drums, you can’t fake metal and make it sound good. Some deathcore drum beats are just too crazy to actually play, but that’s excusable.

[@ryanpohl2709]

@@WhatsInAName718 I understand that, I wasn’t specific enough. Learning an instrument takes plenty of talent, skill, and practice. I was only referring to people who go into the studio, say a few lines horribly off key, then rely on auto tune to fix their mess. I have plenty of respect to those who take the time and dedication to learn instruments and use them to enhance their music.

[@liamjethro1868]

Bro went from the typical person to a robotic version of dream💀

[@chicken5130]

Im worried listening to your raw vocals too much will make me lose my musical ear

[@rickylaws7766]

and that my friends is how YOUR favorite rapper/artist does their music.

[@khululyp]

Idk Nick Cave seems too old Skool for that

[@andreiabezerra9466]

Only stupid spend money with music

[@EnchWraits]

*Laughs *mumbles Shostakovich

[@PhysicallyAwake]

I mean I don’t rlly care, if the song I’d good I’m gonna listen to it 😭

[@Popsculpture]

I feel like there isn't much auto in that tune when your hand drawing levels 😂

[@Iceplays11]

Double it and give it to the next person

[@mbf6160]

So just imagine if you can half way sing you’ll sound amazing 😳

[@chiarosuburekeni9325]

You just basically described t pain’s career except he can seriously sing. That’s why his auto tune sounds better than everyone else’s

[@gian2kk]

That is literally the opposite you just said

[@Vikproductions]

Bro just humbled the entire industry 💀

[@erockbrox8484]

That means anyone can do it. My confidence just went up.

[@TNS17]

but then youre not actually good

[@ElquiHayashi]

If that's bad singing, mine's a crime LUL

[@Charlotte-vh6zr]

well mine was illegal 💀

[@gtwarden7292]

I'm out here commitin' crimes every time I shower XD

[@crunchynuts793]

🤣🤣👍🏻

[@thevero1042]

I was just gonna say that 😂

[@szymoncichon3515]

His voice still sounds very nice, its just the pitch that is incorrect

[@ponchopalito3953]

That slap me to reality! Now I can't trust those singer/artist I listen too on Spotify 😳🤯💯👍

[@coolbrotherf127]

The best way to tell if an artist uses a lot of autotune is to fine live performance of the song, assuming they don't lipsync, and compare it to the studio recording. The artist who don't use it should sound very close.

[@commiecomrade2644]

@@coolbrotherf127 terrible advice. Yes find a live recording. If it sounds exactly like the studio then they are likely using live pitch fixing. A studio performance and a live one will almost never sound the same nor should they. That is how you know some funny business is going on. A live performance should sound more raw and have more imperfections in the harmonies. Especially if the artist is dancing or just moving around a lot in general. My advice is to just not worry about it. Music is music. If you like it then you like it. There is no real music vs fake music. Thats just gatekeeping nonsense. Also lip-synching is not really done anymore outside of drag shows. There is no reason to do it because you can pitch fix live and in real time. Again if you want to know if someone is using pitch correction - and most artists use at least a little - you need to be able to tell what is unnaturally exact. The human voice is a biological sound and will have imperfections. Even opera singers will have these small imperfections. Its like comparing a line drawn with a straight edge vs freehand. You will see endless straight lines if someone used a straight edge and if not you will see imperfections. Even if the person is a master you will see the natural variation brought on by human imperfection. But its getting even harder to tell these days because the computers are designed to mimic even that. So just don't bother worrying about it. There is still skill and artistry involved even if a computer helped create something. It all depends on if you enjoy it or not. Its pointless to be hung up on if it is "real" or not.

[@hanaboskova]

That's why live music.

[@benjamin_tyler]

Love this, great work! Also, people seem to misinterpret regular pitch correction (used in MOST studio recordings) with autotune, similar concept but much different in practice. Autotune you can almost always hear, but pitch correction is already super close, maybe just a cent or two off, and most of the time sounds completely natural after a couple simple clicks.

[@ReidStefanMusic]

You’re right, but people love to brag about the purity of their music preferences to seem morally superior online

[@mechator]

This is so amazing, my girl will be stunned when I let her listen to her own voice 🎉❤ thank you

[@dylancarroll9709]

It's amazing when people can actually sing though takes a lot of hard work and dedication to develop a voice for singing I've been singing since I was 6 but I started practicing everyday whenever I was 18 it has really paid off.

[@Double_Jae]

This is a great guide on how to make K-pop songs thank you!

[@gaythompson551]

If you listen to a lot of music you can very easily tell. Its makes a song nearly unenjoyable for me when I hear the synthasizer voice most these artists put on themselves.

[@EH-vzzy]

I think without the backing vocals it sounds amazing, like hes a natural singer. The "backing vocals" make it sound very much like an autotune effect, singing into an electronic fan

[@17arando]

We are quickly approaching a world where the best singers, painters, and creatives in general are just the people who can tell a computer to do it for them

[@9manny99]

Live performances and works done in person will still have their draw.

[@17arando]

@@9manny99 True, but we're already used to lipsyncing

[@hypetrail]

wait what do you mean by (specifically) painters are one of those people, who tells a computer to do it for them? Are you referring to digital artists or «AI artists»?

[@17arando]

@@hypetrail You can tell the computer to make it look like a painting. If you're talking fine art for rich people that's probably safe, but anything less can be replaced

[@ChilledBacon]

honestly this opens up the music industry to people not gifted with a singing voice but still want to create music

[@AlexartCorp]

This represents the entire music business around the globe nowadays

[@AclibButLikeTheRealOne]

Stop being an elitist and enjoy music for what it is man

[@Chris-fh3db]

No not really... you're looking at a specific type of music in specific areas and generalizing.

[@agentorange4635]

Certainly not in the Philippines.

[@AlexartCorp]

@@agentorange4635 idk about the Philippines, I don’t know much about their music industry. But certainly in parts of asia (k-pop, J-pop) in Europe, and in the West (Americas - North and all Latin America )

[@AlexartCorp]

@@AclibButLikeTheRealOne there’s nothing elitist about what I’ve said. 🤨

[@Sunshinesiri777]

Thank you for helping me understanding what auto tune can do

[@HongFeiHo]

That's some pretty impressive 'touch up' ;) Great work!

[@tinman1065]

bro is so skilled he added an arpeggio when there is only one voice

[@daydream605]

Listening to this, makes me believe I'm actually not half bad at singing lol

[@moonfrog9878]

You’ll never know how good compared to some artists as you don’t know the level of auto tune and mixing gone into their music… so… yeah anyone can sing if you mix it well enough, few can sing good enough without it

[@daydream605]

@@moonfrog9878 I've been told by many people I have a good voice. But I usually just brush it off and tell myself they're being nice 😂. One day I'll try a karaoke machine and see if people still agree 😁

[@Verttigo1982]

What an amazing tool and I mean it! But I’m craving for non auto tuned music! 😅

[@alexbleks]

You can hear so clearly the voice has been tampered with (The robotic shift in tones)

[@devrajryatt]

It sounds good but it's still no substitute for genuinely good vocals. I much prefer autotune when it is used as a vocal effect like it usually is in genres like hyper pop rather than to correct poor vocal performances like it is here.

[@americangizmopied]

this is how i feel ab autotune. there are so many artists especially in genres like hyperpop like you mentioned that use distortion and autotune to create really unique and interesting sounds.

[@somebodyoncetoldme6557]

Talentless people in comment section calling out talentless people using autotune💀💀

[@Sv_gamez]

at least i ain't lying about my talents 🗿🗿

[@AsexTwin]

@@Sv_gamez whos lying

[@sebastianakins414]

it’s really something to see how The Weekend has made all his songs

[@oliveryt7168]

How to: US Pop industry...

[@SanjeevKumar15014]

His voice is still better than mine

[@calebsolimanmusic]

Won’t use that much tuning, but this is definitely helpful for fixing my vocals

[@angelbudakov778]

you have to do it until its perfect not to use autotune

[@INTHEVOID3]

aww thx fir bringing my confidence a lil bit higher ^^ ♪♥♪

[@JLaceRap]

Appreciate all the info. I just started using graph mode & let me tell you I wish I learned a while ago. It’s way better for tuning bad vocals

[@3111windyhollow]

That is why I like older music when the talent was on stage and not behind a computer.

[@corymcclain]

Exactly, older music feels better, computers are never gonna sound as "natural" as real talent

[@AsexTwin]

so you’re saying singing ability is the only talent you can have in the music industry?

[@mercurialpierrot7073]

​@Lüke If you can't sing well live...don't be a singer.

[@AsexTwin]

@@mercurialpierrot7073 music has nothing to do with singing

[@elucid07]

​@@AsexTwin are you deluded? there's a reason the voice is considered to be the first musical instrument.

[@austinhernandez2716]

Non musicians don't understand that there's MUCH more to music than just intonation(tuning). Even being perfectly in tune, you can still change the timbre(sound quality, color) in many different ways. You can also change how you start and release the note. So autotune isn't a catch all system to make singing perfect.

[@dangdudedan8756]

so you're just a liar

[@fostersstubbyasmr9557]

Great work but you can always tell when it sounds overly tuned. I think that’s why raw vocals love inspire so much love

[@Felix-lr5nj]

Very Impressiv. It`s interesting so see, whats possible today. The problem is, that its not important to learn to sing anymore in modern music.

[@jeffreyottinger3165]

Now I know how my shower works!!

[@_xxmidnight5351]

the funny thing is that once you got the hang of singing naturally, you can’t stop you just revert to the original notes and manually lower or raise them by a random amount by a hilarious margin to the point where sometimes you end up with monotone robot noises and I think that’s pretty cool because I’m also trying to understand how tone deaf shit works

[@JoE_Songs]

it became a style in music now, since 10-15 years. so far as to singes who can actually sing, use it to sound conform and "modern". it's exhausting, it's everywhere.

[@bioniclink2527]

The only thing that I say that people need to focus on when singing is the vowels. You can autotune the melody. You can't fix bad vowels.

[@kgratia4748]

Ye that

[@Bagofnowt]

There's only a certain amount of fixing autotune can achieve. Tom Scott has a slightly more detailed version of this concept on his Plus channel. Generally, most the people you'll hear on the radio are actually good singers. Autotune I would say is more of a tool to get perfectly clean sound than to prop up a bad singer (although that has happened, anyone remember the Black Eyed Peas?)

[@user-un8jx8yo7z]

You can't convince me that there arent a lot of artists like this.

[@vincentserna4791]

oh so its the layering that makes it sound "autotuney" cause it sounded natural before he started layering

[@sabastiansteve]

No it can't fix bad singing, sure it can fix the wrong notes being sung but singing is way more complex than just notes no matter how hard you try to fix it through autotune or manual tune it will just sound like bad in key vocals

[@ILnessx]

fax the feeling is not about keys

[@loompasketteefan1235]

true, "james the seventh" has a song where she doesnt use any tune processing on the voice and the out of key words make it sm better

[@arieltal222]

One reason i dislike auto tune is because it ruins singing like its sad when some singers can't even sing their own songs because they autotuned it so much

[@energeticstunts993]

​@@arieltal222many times it's a mean of stylistic production. I agree that lazily slapping autotune is not really that cool but I've seen extremely talented singers use Autotune in cool stylistic ways to add a bit more of SHAZAM to the whole song. It's worth being a but more open minded about

[@arieltal222]

@@energeticstunts993 what im saying is some singers can't sing their own songs properly because of it and thats just something I'm not really a fan of personally im not saying I don't enjoy songs with it, just personally I prefer raw vocals but I get what your saying and I do agree

[@jckummermusic]

Proof producing is more important than the actual artist

[@Paldasan]

Is it better? Yes. Is it still painful? For everyone that hasn't been conditioned to think autotuned is normal, yes.

[@Seawolf.Gaming]

I think it's worse honestly, hearing the auto-tune is terrible and is an immediate headache.

[@seagreenspiral]

Man, we just need Freddie Mercury back

[@ShitYourself7]

But he dead

[@industrynugget]

But he dead

[@JudeP888]

But he dead huh he said we need him back😊

[@asmit_plays]

that's why we need him back dumbos

[@bruce_sat4n66]

Let the man rest

[@guser436]

I can't describe how badly I wanna hear a full version without autotune

[@elektron2kim666]

It's a basic rule to be in tune as planned. In something being "live" it's stressing everyone with many more factors and it's costly to practise a lot.

[@billhunt659]

It's the emotion behind vocals that cannot be fabricated but all that could change with deep fake technology

[@justyourcoolgrandpa1384]

NOOOOO, I ACCIDENTALLY SCROLLED UP AND HAD TO WATCH AGAIN

[@makobailey8107]

Same

[@owlismyfavouritecolorflame2325]

Dude the video is 60 seconds what level of ADHD are you on?

[@Joshinken]

Just… fast forward?

[@ruentherath]

this just reminds me of that one America's got talent meme "that's why you use auto tune and I don't" lol

[@andrewgeorgelang]

That was awesome man. Thanks for sharing

[@Iceplays11]

Double it and give it to the next person

[@andreahl3494]

Except that's not "auto" correcting but manual correcting. With autotune you usually just choose between keys or choose chromatic and that causes some parts to sound wonky.

[@quantdev]

That's not autotune, that's manual tune or something lmao

[@Ed19601]

Exactly

[@johnmartinez9220]

😂 fr

[@theoneandonlyCameraMan]

Audio engineers are the real artists their name really should be put in the credits.....

[@floatingrabbit3556]

And people wonder why music lasts a week these days and its forgotten.

[@friedonions8955]

Honestly, music sucks now. That’s why 80s music is just better in general.

[@jamesjohnXII]

​@@friedonions8955 I hate people like you

[@jamesjohnXII]

​@Fried Onions yall only listen to music you don't like and old music, then say music is bad now without actually looking for the good stuff

[@friedonions8955]

@@jamesjohnXII Everything is auto tuned now. Nobody has skill anymore unlike back then.

[@jamesjohnXII]

@@friedonions8955 me when I lie: