Can Chiefs Be Honest About Their True Style of Play | George Mokoena Podcast Clip

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@moatilehanya5276
@moatilehanya5276 6 күн бұрын
I think many football institutions are missing out on you George. You're good at this thing. Your questioning is so on point always.
@naluminolinyandi6755
@naluminolinyandi6755 6 күн бұрын
This man is underrated! And I’m from Zambia literally just discovered the channel a couple of hours ago and his takes are awesome!
@moatilehanya5276
@moatilehanya5276 5 күн бұрын
So true man. You can see how he's so invested in this. Many analyst don't come close to matching him. He knows this thing.​@@naluminolinyandi6755
@bongzmyeza5302
@bongzmyeza5302 5 күн бұрын
I love the show ...thank you
@stanfordmbatha6585
@stanfordmbatha6585 6 күн бұрын
You raise a real question and believe it or not there actually is a South African football manual by SAFA. Coach Ted Dumitri was a major contributor. The manual is very thin on detail and is honestly just an overview or wish list of how we want SA players and teams to play. It should be updated and revised for the modern era. You're 💯 correct we haven't studied and put the science behind our football. Maybe a proposal should be submitted soon with all the changes at SAFA happening now and the energy at which Minister Gayton is working perhaps the opportunity to do this is now?
@NT_Wethu
@NT_Wethu 6 күн бұрын
Very interesting. I like your videos. Just recently came across it.
@Nzeenzi
@Nzeenzi 4 күн бұрын
Its funny 'we' criticize Shoe Shine And Piano yet that style has dominated SA football for years, made us the most feared team in African football and won us a ⭐. Yet Kaizer Chiefs forgot their style of play - non of them can explain how they got to the CAF finals with Al Ahley! I remember Hugo Boos refusing to play sundowns football and he lost/draw against thee most useless teams. But the moment he accepted SSAP and included Moshishi in his squad-Bafana Bafana won 🥉
@ThabangVincentMoji
@ThabangVincentMoji 6 күн бұрын
I am supporter of Orlando Pirates and grew up off -course watching Chiefs a lot obviously I'm from Soweto, K.Chiefs used to dominate almost everything on offer,cups and league more than any team in the defunct NPSL,NSL and later PSL, with quality players,abo Ace,Teenage, Wagga Likoebe,Marks Maponyane later Doctor Khumalo,Neil Tovey,Lucas Radebe and many great players, but now with the style and management they have since Bobby and Kaiser jr took over the reign,Chiefs is becoming more ordinary that they've struggling to lift just a single trophy in years, they've reshuffled from the beginning of the season and it looks as though it's getting worse at their camp,esp. for league title race, we will see if they'll manage to win Nedbank as this will be their last chance to redeem themselves in 2024, if Chiefs wins Nedbank that will be great achievement and celebrations after a long time since the club was formed,
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 6 күн бұрын
Chiefs management and supporters must accept the fate. Go fedile Se sa feleng se a tlhola
@tetimolefe1094
@tetimolefe1094 6 күн бұрын
I don't think Chiefs will compete for any silverware this season, even the coach said it. The management has failed this team for a long time now. It just needs structural change from getting competent football people in management, scouts and players.
@dipuoprandentertainmentmos2254
@dipuoprandentertainmentmos2254 3 күн бұрын
You’re such a thinker bro. Love how your brain works
@RichmanJili
@RichmanJili 6 күн бұрын
Kaizer Chiefs is a helicopter.✈️✈️ Drones football thats Kaizer Chiefs style
@thatofaith249
@thatofaith249 3 күн бұрын
😅😅😅Couldn't agree more
@ThabangSello-s1k
@ThabangSello-s1k 6 күн бұрын
I believe the Kaizer Chiefs football is about good or great defence with upper counter attacking football remember Ted Dimitri, I believe Chiefs is not interested in competing international as well🤷🏾‍♂️
@NT_Wethu
@NT_Wethu 6 күн бұрын
I was at the OP vs Al game and i found it interesting how al alhaly was playing low block. Very boring 😴 but it wins them leagues.
@buyanifakudze3489
@buyanifakudze3489 6 күн бұрын
The issue of style needs some consensus in order to work. South African football has everyone doing their own thing and there's a lack of patience to achieve what would work. The issue of style touches on geography, socio economic issues and culture... So you hurt yourself when you try to bypass that and copy other people. It plays into the hands of Europeans who then dominate the global game. Of course in football you adapt....which is what the winning coaches like Pitso Mosimane, Gavin Hunt, Clive Barker, Gordon Igesund, Ted Dumitru understand. Different matches have different demands so you will be cornered to adapt but your style must remain. Look at Brazil these days.... The European dilution is harming them. Lastly, Ted Dumitru wrote a book about the South African style.....SAFA needs to build on that research work....
@ericmgiba8890
@ericmgiba8890 6 күн бұрын
Jeff Butler was a firm fa😂n favourite. He was bold
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 6 күн бұрын
Chiefs is no longer a big team. Supporters and management must accept the fate. We have new boys in the block , Stellenbosch, Cape Town City, Magesi, Sekhukhune . Sundowns is old boy now it is up there with the new boys . Chiefs e wele. Fal po hatshe
@dipuoprandentertainmentmos2254
@dipuoprandentertainmentmos2254 3 күн бұрын
Jose managed to blend the SA football and European football. Study him.
@leselemosie7896
@leselemosie7896 6 күн бұрын
You seem to think 'Shoeshine & Piano' style play is static and not evolving. That's not true. Tactics changes and you adapt it.
@saneledlamini4210
@saneledlamini4210 6 күн бұрын
Om glad that they somoene who share my view bcs I don't think most people can define "shoe shine n piano" hence that why they can't recognize it bcs it still exist within Kabo Yello,it just it been infused...Kabo Yello
@ericmgiba8890
@ericmgiba8890 6 күн бұрын
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@ImranJoe-r2g
@ImranJoe-r2g 4 күн бұрын
Vumani ma chips ukuthi siphelile isikhathi done😂😂😂
@thamsanqagamede528
@thamsanqagamede528 6 күн бұрын
South African teams should go back to an old 442 & 352 footballing system with position #11 & #7 your Mkhelele type of players, we used to have very strong and fast wingers and strong #9 a Masinga, that were on demand in europe
@samuelnsibande6167
@samuelnsibande6167 6 күн бұрын
Even Mushin Etrugal was winning trophies with helicopter football, cross n score 😅
@buyanifakudze3489
@buyanifakudze3489 6 күн бұрын
Mushin and helicopter? I don't recall him playing like that.... He has Jabu Pule, Patrick Mbuthu, Thabo Mooki, Thabang Lebese, Bhele Nomvethe, Mohammed Nauseb amongst others. Those players couldn't play helicopter even if they tried. I think Paul Dolezar is more helicopter than Mushin
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 6 күн бұрын
Wow 😮😮 I thought that Mushin was great coach who made Chiefs play grass cutting football
@buyanifakudze3489
@buyanifakudze3489 6 күн бұрын
@@aarongunnz9513 I'm not a Chiefs fan but I remember good flowing football under Muhsin... Not helicopter football
@buyanifakudze3489
@buyanifakudze3489 6 күн бұрын
@@aarongunnz9513 I'm not a Chiefs fan but I remember good flowing football under Muhsin... Not helicopter football
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 6 күн бұрын
@@buyanifakudze3489 yeah, that's what I remember. They used to flow and I remember Mushin winning all the cups Except the league
@BethuelThabangMahlonoko
@BethuelThabangMahlonoko 6 күн бұрын
Coach Mngqithi said he will change style of play because it was discussed in a boardroom .He said they will play shoe shine in a betway maar Africa no no......In Africa they play ugly thats why the glamour boys never liked to participate in that space ,due to pressure of the fans they are willing to go and try again
@ivellkagisodeovelentejacka1383
@ivellkagisodeovelentejacka1383 5 күн бұрын
Chiefs lost their style of play or philosophy. Is not about form. Since from the era of Middendorp, Baxter and others. Chiefs played great football during Ted, Jeff Buttler, you can go back to Maui Tuwane
@SonOfGodRSA
@SonOfGodRSA 4 күн бұрын
This title is hilarious, poor chiefs lol
@Sihawukelwe
@Sihawukelwe 6 күн бұрын
Chiefs dominance is way over. Other teams have taken over now.
@aarongunnz9513
@aarongunnz9513 6 күн бұрын
It is now ordinary team but their supporters don't accept the fate. Now we have new boys like Stellenbosch, Cape Town City, Magesi
@mlungisindimande4152
@mlungisindimande4152 3 күн бұрын
We care about so called our SA football then results and you ask yourself if our so call football is so precious then why don't we have our boys shining all over Europe countries coz even the one we trusted didn't shine football has involved that it why we cannot bit city or go tou to tou with Europe teams like we used to during vodacom challenge
@dipuoprandentertainmentmos2254
@dipuoprandentertainmentmos2254 3 күн бұрын
The problem is that SA players will forever be outa place if they play anything else, true story.
@rayraystone_sa2439
@rayraystone_sa2439 6 күн бұрын
At kaizer Chiefs the is no style of play
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