Can China's Comac break up the Airbus-Boeing duopoly?

China is on a mission to break up the Airbus-Boeing duopoly and it hopes the domestically made Comac C919 will be its first big break into foreign markets.
Made by the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (Comac), the passenger aircraft has been touted as the “dream of a nation” by Chinese President Xi Jinping.
If successful, the C919 would offer airlines an alternative to the Airbus A320 and Boeing 737 families.
However, there are still several hurdles Comac would need to clear before it could take on the French and American aerospace giants’ dominance.
Today, the bulk of the C919 orders, which can be outfitted with up to 192 seats, are from domestic carriers and Chinese companies that lease aircraft to airlines.
GallopAir, a new Brunei-based airline, is the first carrier outside of China to order the C919. They have ordered 15 C919s and 15 ARJ21s, Comac’s small jet aircraft.
The airline will launch at the end of 2024 with the ARJ21, according to its CEO Cham Chi.
“As a customer and operator of China’s Comac products, we can get financial support from China’s import-export bank, and also central banks,” Cham told CNBC in an interview.
According to Cham, Comac said it would consider creating aircraft maintenance, repair and overhaul support for its aircraft in Brunei.
“For the first and second aircraft, we’ll still need to fly to Shanghai for MRO,” he said. “After three to five aircrafts have been delivered, then we can start MRO in Brunei.”
The future production rate, especially for the C919, remains in question for Comac.
“It’s a big question, having only delivered four aircraft over the last several years,” Adam Cowburn, managing director of Alton Aviation Consultancy told CNBC.
“Industry analysts will look at production rate to understand at what rate they are going to start to meaningfully chip away at the market share of Boeing and Airbus. Our models predict that was still quite some time out,” Cowburn said.
Brendan Sobie, an independent analyst from Sobie Aviation said that Comac’s aspiration is to have international sales, though it will take time.
“Airlines want that third option after Airbus and Boeing, particularly given Boeing’s issues recently,” he told CNBC.
Boeing has been hit with a multitude of safety issues, particularly involving their Boeing 737 Max.
“It’s still early to say whether [Comac] is a serious competitor in the long run,” Brendan added.
Watch the video above to learn more about Comac’s origins, and whether it has what it takes to disrupt Airbus and Boeing.
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[@CNBCi]

Would you ride in a C919?

[@antoniobabb1938]

No but still better than Boeing I guess.

[@skinnybricks]

I mean, it's probably fine.

[@sadihy]

Not until it's certified by EASA and/or the FAA.

[@lindafukuyu5767]

Yes, I will !

[@alileevil]

Over a Boeing? Definitely!

[@zhubotang927]

I don’t think EU or US would certify C919. This is not a reflection of C919 quality or safety or anything. It is just protectionism.

[@TRONTC]

Bhahah by that argument they shouldn't certify a Embraer or a B or A . They will certify it. It's more or less a western + Chinese combo aircraft. Though on account of Geopolitical issues it'll take a little longer and be more in-depth. Looking forward to more competition in the market and flying on a. C919 soon.

[@Unclesam404]

Well think of it this way. China buy tons of of airbus. So China will get EU certification. US certification is not needed given the geopolitical situation. And after all, China can’t produce enough for themselves why export ? China will buy 0 Boeing airplanes from now on.

[@davidz7858]

C919 could be survived with domestic market and Asia, Africa and South America market. Its main goat is to prove its liabilities and save.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

​@@Unclesam404china demand requirements is ironically so high that they'll bite their tongue and continue buying Boeing. Of course comac and Airbus they never stopped buying from but their demand is so large that even these 3 combined aren't enough to satisfy demand so Embraer will probably still in also. Of course, most of the components for all 4 makers come from those handful of European and American companies

[@Unclesam404]

@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br hehe has China ever bought/deliver any Boeing aircraft since the Trump trade war ? Can you please do some research ?

[@sn350channel]

At this point, any new airplane manufacture is better than Boeing.

[@trentkenzler8478]

Unless it's made in China. Tofu buildings, tin can navy.

[@shawncheng404]

Stupid idea

[@ogasdiaz]

@@gravelDave after MCAS fiasco and the ripped off window it's not about beliefs anymore.

[@johnwinter7597]

That’s such a lame statement

[@user-jt5cn9qh1z]

Why ? ​@@shawncheng404

[@jjbully]

later they will say China has overcapacity in plane 😂

[@widodoakrom3938]

Lol true

[@souria1671]

🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍 Quand c’était eux qui produisaient pendant bien longtemps, il n’y avait aucun problème 😌

[@samiah21]

😂

[@eyeonchina2023]

Not likely since it uses western parts. 😂

[@yiquny]

​@@eyeonchina2023logic? Be aware Boeing uses Chinese components

[@chrisk5437]

Comac doesn’t need to break up the duopoly, Boeing will do it for them…

[@xuchen4012]

monopoly is worse ...

[@lancewood1410]

yep, japanese calls it harakiri LOL.

[@Wilson24678]

What kind of person would complain about having another player to break the duopoly market?

[@user-jo9xh9yg7o]

美国 台湾

[@darthvadeth6290]

jealous and hateful people, lol

[@nuevision8]

The same people that go to court to keep the Green Party off of elections ballots in many states...

[@ervinabdullah881]

Boing and Airbus fan will surely against any Chinese and Russia made airplane.

[@ahmedzakikhan7639]

Same reason Tik Tok got banned.

[@craiglee3253]

It won't be hard for China to beat boeing quality.

[@Louis1059]

CCP quality is the same as Boeing lol

[@user-tt6il2up4o]

@@Louis1059higher than boeing

[@ericyeo1454]

If china is low quality, boeing is usable quality. Even boeing workers say they wont board if its an boeing plane. LMAO

[@zacksmith5963]

​@@Louis1059 and u have proof of today😂

[@jeremyknight1927]

@@user-tt6il2up4o how's it higher if their designs are stolen from Boeing?

[@xx133]

Boeing CEO just said Comac planes are equivalent to their offering. So why not choose Comac, when Boeing’s planes are dismantling in midair.

[@TomNook.]

Because it takes a lot of time to make them

[@BS-vm5bt]

Why not airbus that have non of the issues boeing got.

[@martinishot]

With 737 MAX doors maybe not bolted on. With C919 wings, engines, fuselage sections, landing gear, tail, passenger seats, overhead bins, jump seats, coffee maker(you read that right) maybe not bolted on.

[@martinishot]

I'm sure he said equivalent to their offerings 30 even 40 years ago. The technology is so old and they will be paying so much more for fuel.

[@MSDGroup-ez6zk]

@@martinishot look at China EV, does it take 30-40 years to develop it?

[@pratronald]

Certification from the FAA is meaningless... It didnt save those people from dying on those boeng aircrafts, did it????

[@darrellgorsuch5599]

no, it did not - because the FAA had outsourced the the certification process to boeing itself, in effect

[@kamalabrahman6925]

FAA has bad reputation and no longer a independent body for airplane certification...

[@steveablet4041]

@@kamalabrahman6925 the accidents are unfortunate, but will make aviation safer. too bad people buy into media hysteria.

[@kamalabrahman6925]

@steveablet4041 Accidents can be prevented if you have taken the out hazards This is by taking the preventive measures and recovery measures.... But if you omit all these safety procedures, then you are planning for failure..

[@steveablet4041]

@@kamalabrahman6925 Not entirely true. Even following every procedure can still result in accidents. Some are predictable and some are not. There are some accidents in aviation that no person on the planet could have thought of. You have an unrealistic expectation that things made by humans are perfect.

[@backemf89]

For now chinas ambition is not overseas but being self-reliance and independent from Western monopoly

[@matiasavellanal5244]

except it isn't cause most of the parts are western made

[@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge]

Then why make it with so many Western components? Even Bombardier played a role in its design

[@siddharthgoyal4008]

@@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge because it makes sense to start initially with known and working parts. Even in Solar industry initially China leveraged German suppliers, eventually it added more value chain and now China has absolute domination over Solar industry across all verticals.

[@backemf89]

@@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge what's wrong with that? you live in an open free market globalized world. Even being and Airbus gets their critical mineral and material supplied from China.

[@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge]

@@siddharthgoyal4008 but China has had an aviation industry since the 1950s and to this day most of their jets have western components or are based on a Russian design.

[@davidchen3503]

If China replace half of its domestic market with ARJ21, C919, C929, that would be big blow to Airbus and Boeing.

[@luffirton]

The big question is will Chinese airlines trust them enough to buy them and will Chinese passengers want to fly with them, like right now people are saying if it’s a Boeing I’m not going. Reputation in this industry is everything

[@davidchen3503]

@@luffirton China Eastern Airline is flying four C919, daily.

[@MulaFresh-bi3mq]

​@@luffirton You slow

[@calvinkong6849]

Airbus should be more disastrous

[@antonsjoberg]

@@davidchen3503 4 is nothing

[@ashvinkumarbhoyar3037]

the same FAA who certified 737 max will certify comac ? 🤣🤣🤣

[@lancewood1410]

Why would Comac need faa certification if they don't intend to fly to americaaaaaa :)

[@robertlee6338]

If COMAC takes 50% of Chinese domestic market it is 25% of sales from Boeing and Airbus

[@MSDGroup-ez6zk]

Plus its massive 160 countries of its China silk road member markets.

[@regorflora7915]

Airbus: it no different from what airbus and boeing already have. Comac: yes, but it will be cheaper.

[@hakanevin8545]

I wouldn't bet on that. Comac is using the same parts as Boeing and Airbus which have the advantage of economy of scale. Comac will need a long time to reduce their costs down to Boeing and Airbus level, maybe they will never make it. Their target is not being cheap, but making China less dependent.

[@pjacobsen1000]

The list price is almost identical. No airlines pay the list price, but it is never made public what the real price is.

[@regorflora7915]

@@hakanevin8545are the chinese capable of reverse engineering those spare part?

[@hakanevin8545]

@@regorflora7915 Sure they are. Chinese mobile phones are more high tech than the best selling aircraft A320 designed in 1980s. Bu do they need reverse engineering? Those parts are already available to Chinese companies.

[@marcmcreynolds2827]

@@hakanevin8545 Speaking of "A320" and "1980s", a big drawback to the C919 is that it matches up against a 1980s A320 rather than a current one. It's not competitive with current offerings, other than perhaps on price. Payload is significantly less and fuel burned is higher.

[@huanghermann5207]

It is a long way to go for COMAC. Luckily, China has a big market for it to grow up.

[@Akash-uq8wg]

1000+ orders, you bet they will catch up

[@jogana6909]

After the introduction of China cars in Australia, the prices of both EV and ICE vehicle have dropped, and consumers are the beneficiaries of competition (including those who have not bought China cars).

[@Akash-uq8wg]

@@jogana6909 yup those ridiculous profits tesla made, so it could afford stock by backs are over. Now its harder to inflate their stock.

[@nerrailwaygorakhpur7173]

​@@jogana6909what you want to say? Can you believe they will Catchup or not?

[@jogana6909]

@@nerrailwaygorakhpur7173 What I want to say is that competition is better than monopoly.

[@shronklescrimblo69]

Comac needs to make it's move and assure it's quality now while Boeing is struggling

[@cabasadefogo9533]

How can you underestimate the Chinese at anything these days 1) They were forbidden on the International Space Station, in less than 10yrs they have a superior station in place. 2) Their cars were laughed at 10yrs ago, now Elon Musk wants heavy protection in the west against Chinese EVs. 3) They were sanctioned and it was thought they can at best make 14nm chips. Well, 7nm last year and 5nm this year. With Lithography machines coming. 4) Their navy was laughed at 15yrs ago. Now the type 55 destroyer of PLAN is being copied by the US navy. Simply compared to image to the proposed DDGX to the already in service type 55. 5) We were gonna have the first railgun. Opps, it is canceled now. While the Chinese have field tested theirs on a ship 2yrs ago! Now developing railgun launching system for out of space. I can go on, but I don't have enough zoloft and xanax for that.

[@JigilJigil]

1 - They've a space station that is totally based on 50 years old Russia\Soveit technologies, with no innovation, the technology that belongs to museum as Russia was not able to advanced it further after the soviet fall, funny is that, the Chinese couldn't even make the docking system and ask Russians to transfered the tech as well. 2 - Their EVs are nothing but low quality fire hazard cars, and based on stolen tech from Tesla (read the recent WSJ article about quality of BYD and other Chinese EVs.)

[@cabasadefogo9533]

@@JigilJigil sour grapes 🍇 much?

[@trentkenzler8478]

@@cabasadefogo9533 Tengping, wumao!! Don't believe the lies of your CCP masters!!

[@lol-wd5cw]

@@JigilJigiltell me you know nothing about china without telling me you know nothing about china

[@JigilJigil]

@@lol-wd5cw OK wumao.

[@jeremypearson6852]

Comac doesn’t need to sell internationally, they have enough business in China and maybe Russia.

[@golu4706]

Considering MAX 737 saga, I think C-1919 has fair chance

[@abdiganiaden]

You’re joking, majority of Comac parts are sourced from the west Only parts China makes is wings, fuselage, and radar cover Everything else is USA made

[@christodang]

Some of the parts of the current C919 are made by Airbus and Boeing suppliers soooo. Mind you China wants to have most of the parts made within China in the near future

[@phoreal22]

America is going to stifle competition by pressuring FAA to not provide "airworthiness"

[@peterkotara]

Comac will likely struggle to get a foothold in the western market as airlines are risk averse and Comac does not have an established parts and support network, the companies QC procedures are opaque, Chinas aviation industry has an appalling reputation for poor reliability and the C919 is overweight so unlikely to get close to the fuel efficiency of the western product. They will improve and will do well in China and some developing nations (a huge and growing market), but I don't see them cracking the western market any time soon (even accounting for the fact that there is a 7 year waiting list for some Airbus aircraft).

[@leihtory7423]

@@peterkotara USA EU buys Brazil's New Embraer E195. Why wont they buy Chinese. Same components made by Western Countries? Geopolitics?

[@temper44]

It's 60% made in China. That's still impressive though, its very hard to make a modern airliner.

[@abdiganiaden]

They only make wings and fuselage, everything else is from USA and some from French, how is that 60%?

[@damianodonnell5844]

@@abdiganiaden they said 3/5 of the plane parts were made in china , 3/5 is equal to 60%

[@zacksmith5963]

​@@abdiganiaden they made me than that

[@The_Stef]

@@damianodonnell5844 I think you misunderstood the video. the video mentioned that 3/5th of all components come form the USA and 1/3 from Europe. This leaves only 10% of components coming from China or other countries. Plus the assembly of course.

[@WellSalt-Studio]

@@abdiganiaden No commercial airliner manufactures all the components of its own aircraft. Even if it has the ability to manufacture its own aircraft, it will choose to cooperate with multiple manufacturers due to cost factors. China has intercontinental large transport aircraft entirely manufactured by itself. In 2030, the localization rate of C919 will exceed 70%, which will be higher than the current value of Boeing. The C929 is a long-range wide-body jet airliner independently developed in accordance with internationally accepted airworthiness standards and with independent intellectual property rights. It is equipped with the self-developed Yangtze River 2000 engine, with a basic seating capacity of 280 and a range of 12,000 kilometers. Orders have exceeded 500.

[@ryanlittleton5615]

All three aircraft in the thumbnail are Airbus A320 aircraft. Don't go to MSM for aviation news...

[@diamesarr1500]

😂😂😂

[@felixonetwothree2245]

Loool

[@tailsorange2872]

Says a person who can't see the difference between the models.

[@Artemie-np3qu]

Are you blind

[@ryanlittleton5615]

@@tailsorange2872 It has since been changed I swear LOL. However the blueprint aircraft pictured is still an A320. And the top left is an A320neo.

[@arminius6506]

Comac isn't in a hurry, they're looking up in the time frame of 2-4 decades to establish themselves in the international market. They'd easily get 2000+ orders from China and then smooth operations of those thousands of aircrafts can easily get them certification from anywhere. Comac don't need to beat Boeing or Airbus, establishing itself as a third biggest commercial aircraft maker would be a mega success for them and China.

[@aslampervez2294]

They will beat them on the price

[@nsebast]

If the safety records are established, pretty sure the whole world is going to buy from China again. Boeing and Airbus will majority only be purchased domestically.

[@jiaqishen2810]

The hosts couldn't even call the name of 737max, instead calling it 737 family lmao.

[@Adrian_Nel]

@jiaqishen2810 Nothing wrong with that. Absolutely nothing. One might also speak, for one easy example, of a 'family of engines'as in, Ford's Eco Boost family of engines have some known weak points.

[@9999AWC]

Because the entire 737 lineup is still relevant today, especially the NG and even the 200 from the 70s.

[@toucancheney9091]

Boeing is gonna break itself.

[@user-wp8de6cc9s]

Not now, as long as our president Xi continues using 747-8i as his flying palace.

[@toucancheney9091]

@@user-wp8de6cc9s Indeed CPC is now Boeing's last strew

[@jessecruzu]

@4:50 AIRBUS - A BOEING - B and COMAC - C 😂

[@ogasdiaz]

They are a were of their position and are working hard to become number 1. The same thing happened with byd

[@godzillamothra5983]

Airbus is making planes, Boeing is making flying coffin, how can they be a duopoly

[@tommypaget2294]

Airbus is copy cat, they also copy Boeing is Boeing is the true leader. Lat year 2 Airbus A320 crashed in Rusham due to poor pitot-static design. Airbus is truly a European trash.

[@kamalabrahman6925]

Wow, you have made your point correctly. I agree 1000 %%

[@david50665]

so it is a monopoly now....that's why planes r so expensive

[@agoodchow]

Both Made in China commercial aircraft and commercial cruise ship need the time to grow and improve. Will certainly improve down the road.

[@AbdulHamid-pm8dm]

Comec will fly in different countries in Asia, Russia, Africa and Middle eastern countries...

[@fyc55]

I would prefer COMAC to Boeing, definitely!

[@steveablet4041]

You would prefer something that is unknown versus known? Accidents are unfortunate but make aviation safer.

[@fyc55]

@@steveablet4041 You want to be Boeing's victim to make aviation safer? FAA certification is a joke!

[@steveablet4041]

@@fyc55 You take the same risk flying on ANY aircraft. Since you wrote your comment a day ago 10s of thousands of Boeing aircraft have taken off and landed safely. The recent incidents are unfortunate however those problems have been corrected. No Boeing aircraft are grounded at the moment by any international regulator. You are buying into the media hysteria.

[@user-kd3pq3jt9v]

⁠@@steveablet4041you mean known danger and unknown danger? I would pick the unknown one.

[@dread69420]

More competition is great, especially in a market that has basically kept a duopoly going on for decades.

[@STREETFOODJOURNEY5]

that's exactly elon musk reaction a decade ago about BYD, now he bit his own tounge as BYD stole tesla's crown.

[@widodoakrom3938]

True

[@Adebuea]

A lot of components on American planes are not from the United States so why y’all being hypocrites

[@pbworld7858]

As long as doors don't fly off in mid-air.

[@charliezwl]

US aviation certification is as useful as credit rating. Crash 737 & 2008 financial crisis.

[@steveablet4041]

the accidents are unfortunate but will make aviation safer. you're giving the media a high credit rating and buying into hysteria.

[@zayn2476]

comac will naturally replace boeing, and eventually airbus by having crazy competitive prices. China doesn't play to compete, it dominates

[@jetli740]

name 1 company that choose compete over dominates. every company want to dominates their market

[@dannnnn809]

Of course, this will benefit Developing countries such as those in Southeast Asia. Never underestimate China

[@jeremyknight1927]

Never underestimate their ability to steal any proprietary data/designs.

[@RoseRose-gk6ku]

I'm with you. Just someone who is jealous & panic here.

[@nerrailwaygorakhpur7173]

​@@jeremyknight1927I only want to advice you to write some thing different man this arguments were don't work now ok? Go and try something different

[@WellSalt-Studio]

@@jeremyknight1927 When you have the ability to build a space station independently, it's not too late to brag. Dog barks at the train.

[@coldham77]

@@WellSalt-Studio China stole those designs to.

[@AloysiusTSY]

Thumbnails shows All 3 aircrafts are A320s. Then I checked, it’s from CNBC. Ahh. Right.

[@Artemie-np3qu]

Are you blind

[@AloysiusTSY]

@@Artemie-np3qu Mr Windows 1.0 was slow to the game. They changed it before you came replying here.

[@muhammadhassansiddiqui6828]

We just need to understand that price which Comac can offer will be lower than both Airbus and Boeing. So if this place become successful in international market, both Airbus and Boeing will have buyer only in Europe and USA only because rest of the world do not have problem with Chinese products.

[@merrick6484]

Comac will started with cargo plane first to build up reputation and experience.

[@tkyap2524]

Reliability and pricing will decide.

[@90enemies]

The funny thing is Comac doesnt even need to compete with Boeing or Airbus in International Market. Their Domestic market alone is THAT big. One of the perks of having 1.4 Billion people.

[@MibomTali-cg9eo]

Not all Chinese airlines will take compact even if goverment enforce them

[@valuedcustomer94384]

I don't really think Boeing earned the right to comment on the C919... They should focus on their own problems.

[@DukeLM]

The more competition or choices the better

[@happymelon7129]

Actually Comac is working with Airbus to compete Boeing.

[@pjacobsen1000]

The sister aircraft, the ARJ21 saw its first delivery in 2015 and now, almost 10 years later, annual production looks to be around 24-36 craft/year. I have never built a civilian aircraft myself, but it is probably not an easy thing to do.

[@tren133]

ARJ's market is more limited though, and as China's first domestic airliner, not surprising that production rates have not been that high. On the other hand, its safety record after 9 years seems to be okay, and that's the one thing you need to get right in this sector. The day COMAC does get into a groove, and especially if/when local supply lines are all set up within China itself, then watch out because at that point they can and will crank production. Planes are the hardest things to be build, but China has achieved similar results now with trains, cars, and ships, and eventually they'll get there with planes as well.

[@capdink]

For sure in the next 2 decades they are gonna be great. They will actually make them better after a few decades.

[@obsun001]

Most budget airlines from South East Asia are still rely on Airbus & Boeing fleet. For Comac flight become viable is to lease the aircraft to regional operators to minimize the cost & maintenance issues. By the time matures, confidenence will grow & order will increase eventually.

[@fdjw88]

I have no idea how the 737Max passed the inspection from the department of transportation.

[@elotello]

Money talks.

[@HewbhurtGabon]

You have to trust american aviation authority. They are the world standard. 😂😂😂

[@mostbestjia627]

Let me tell you why: Boeing moved their headquarter from Seattle to Chicago and finally to DC

[@milibibi2152]

Corruption

[@jojoeverycat7726]

Boing and Airbus responses are not any different from Nokia when it faced the critical question on digital camera!

[@Neel71]

Remember Elon's derisive laughter after hearing about BYD being competitive!

[@StevenPhD4]

The more competition is always beneficial for the consumer

[@rickw5988]

Boeing will be just fine. They’ll learn from this and will continue to put out great product. I’m just as sure as that as I am of Comac growing over time.

[@kamalabrahman6925]

Boeeing will take few years to recover from public scare from their plane....

[@TamPham-rv9qn]

​@kamalabrahman6925 I agree, the fall of Boeing's quality for sure will be lesson and learn not only for Boeing but for Airbus and other as well.

[@sam06pr]

I'm surprised that Embraer hasn't pounced on this golden opportunity.

[@alexandermathar7780]

Yes,they are perfectly capable of building B737 or Airbus sized aircraft !

[@da480]

Comac doesn’t have to exceed Airbus or Boeing sales to have an impact on the market. Over a 1000 already ordered planes is already this very impact.

[@marufbepary100]

I think for the first few years (closer to a decade probably), it will be only operated by Chinese airlines. This will slowly show other airlines that Comac is a viable alternative to Airbus and Boeing. This is probably worse for Boeing than Airbus since Comac could capitalise on the current controversies with Boeing.

[@pedrorequio5515]

The West is not playing fair exactly. There is an area where China is impossible behind, Engine Technology, and the US is restricting access to modern engines. Copying these engines is easy, making the Materials that make them work is extraordinarily hard. Russia has better engine tech than China, but Russia will need scale because part availability is crucial for Airlines.

[@waltertomashefsky2682]

I’m expecting Comac to make RyanAir a deal they can’t refuse and soon RyanAir’s fleet will be 100% Comac and the camel’s nose will be completely in the tent.

[@vinurp]

COMAC will defiantly brake the duopoly of Airbus & Boeing and acquire a decent space in airline industry very soon 😊

[@AustinKelly94]

I really appreciate the cockpit graphic at 3:35. Very creative!

[@the.colonel2287]

EU & USA certification is creating a room for monopoly however the locals can use it as long as it can be received to whatever country’s air space it can host

[@user-tx6wy7pc1u]

No, it will just become Airbus-whatever that chinese name is Duopoly. I get chills, when i get my boarding card and it says Boeing and I am normal.

[@bioberliner]

boering is under insanely quality problem... folks take care

[@Qiushishuo]

The foreign certificates are more depending on politics. It is sad.

[@somcode5831]

This plane will become security threat to americans

[@widodoakrom3938]

Lol true

[@obinnaezealah2465]

Or they'll say "safety concerns".

[@carloschin4363]

​@@widodoakrom3938 usando a velha receita dos políticos do US ,com termos subestimando a potencialidade do concorrente e esquecendo o desenvolvimento interno do próprio país, perante a precariedade da infraestrutura da nação para o bem estar do povo com sintomas reais de declínio de dominância mundial... " American first" 😂 Veja as autoridades ,cabeções americanas e europeias visitando a China..por qual motivo??

[@ranjithpowell6791]

Better quality than Boeing

[@sungs3917]

I have experienced flying with comac, very smooth and even faster to reach destination

[@zaidbaig2943]

Attleast they are not falling apart like Beoings lol.

[@dervue7781]

As if the FAA certificate has any worth. Look at Boeing, it is like that, and there you have it.

[@AscendanceForprogress]

The more competion is involved the more consumers are assured with quality. Well done comac.

[@chairmanimao7982]

Boeing first engineer was a Chinese national named Wong Tsu

[@soowo5942]

The Chinese market is more than enough for c 919!

[@stevidente]

Still needs to beat Embraer first

[@9999AWC]

6:36 The majority of airliners built use components from companies around the globe. The 787 is still American despite having components from Canada, France, Japan, the Uk, etc. The F-35 is still American despite being built and developed by a consortium of countries. the MC-21 is still Russian despite using parts and components from China, the EU, and the US (well, it did, before sanctions from the war changed that).

[@linggonilusmasturanda8102]

Wll become "Triopoly" in aircraft company?

[@widodoakrom3938]

Most likely yes

[@lagrangewei]

this is actually not the first large jetliner China build. the SAMF Y10 flew in 1980, could carry 124 to 178 passenger, made 130 flight before it was retire in favor of buying Boeing. the reality is companies can't produce plane fast enough to meet orders, so it is very logical for airlines to just buy which ever plane would be available quickest than to wait for years for their planes. so the real question is how many planes can COMAC build a year, if the numbers are not comparible, people won't buy it, but if it is equal to Airbus and Boeing, than the duopoly will automatically be broken by the reality of production.

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

Didn't US and EU authorities ceritfy all those 737s? I wonder what tells about those authorities.

[@lambeefbiryani08]

Chinna is crazy in Aerospace Industry.. They made their own space shuttle, space station, fighter jet, commercial airplane..

[@mrklv1593]

Comac=Airbus>>Boeing

[@schalitz1]

I'm curious what airline in Germany was interested in the C919?

[@blazingstar9638]

Hopefully none lol

[@georgelan9985]

The A320neo is better than the C919, and the C919 does not have an EASA certificate at this time. So, the C919 is mainly sold in the Chinese domestic market.

[@tushshubro]

The difference between a Boeing/Airbus having Chinese sourcing versus Comac having non-Chinese elements is the former opt for Chinese due to price and other considerations while the latter opts for them as it’s the only available source

[@user-wp8de6cc9s]

It's funny that the three Competitors are using the same engine(A320neo uses leap-1A while B737max uses leap-1B and C-919 uses leap-1C).

[@TogioLee-qt2ky]

A = Airbus B = Boeing C = Comac D= What a coincidence😮

[@jamesmiller4114]

D = Douglas, E = Embraer

[@AdmiralIbra]

Yes you can see that 90% of this aicraft this not chinese but this just the beginning

[@zacksmith5963]

Nope .

[@JigilJigil]

beginning! China has spent 3 decades and over $100 billion to make its own domestic airliner and failed...

[@zacksmith5963]

@@JigilJigil and still they made it Didn't u run away from byd claim lol

[@zacksmith5963]

@@JigilJigil source ? Proof.

[@JigilJigil]

@@zacksmith5963 No they couldn't, eventually the West made them one, as it was stated in the video 70-80% of the parts come from US and Europe. BYD,! there are numerous reports/articles about the quality of BYD vehicles , WSJ had a priece about BYD EVs quality issues a fews days ago.

[@wkn3445]

The competitors (after taking apart this plane) will find out a way to sue this COMAC company for intellectual property infringement or unfair competition due to Chinese government subsidy or whatever reasons

[@jasonyau326]

The Longer the Boeing production issues saga drags on, the more the likelihood airlines will consider COMAC for their narrow body airliner needs

[@Wha2les]

Well Boeing is certainly doing their part to give the Chinese firm an opening! At this rate, the Chinese plane would be safer than Boeing!

[@choikof9725]

The airbus and boeing guys are trying to make us believe it will take china ages te be Ready which is ofcourse funny and they giving al lot of reasons which they think will stand in the way, they clearly haven't learned that when china want something at a certain time I will het whatever it takes.

[@choikof9725]

@@Rihno377 just wait and see. ;)

[@tiagogomes3807]

Not anytime soon. But on 15-20 years, maybe.

[@dragoneye706]

Well the question is how many parts and then I mean all the little parts as well come for the US and Europe for it to function. For it to be a fully home grown Chinese plane.

[@seanhsieh4149]

If it is not Boeing, I am not going 😊

[@Tpavra]

Cool, more room for us normal people to travel 😎

[@seanhsieh4149]

@Tpavra lol, but the availability of airbus is limited , and it is hard to book a ticket 🎟 now.

[@birdsnature6421]

same, I would rather be taking an aircraft without a door than taking airbus or comic

[@seanhsieh4149]

@@birdsnature6421 without landing gear as well 😎how exciting!

[@revolutionarydefeatism]

Anything would be safer than Boeing!

[@davidchen3503]

News just comes in, Air China orders 100 C919.

[@ensh888888]

Certainly hope they do !

[@CliffordCruiser]

The narrator of this video doesn't seem qualified. She doesn't know much about the aviation industry and she seems wildly biased.

[@tiago.matias]

Doesn’t even know how to say A320

[@eduardodaquiljr9637]

Will it improve the atmosphere by not contributing carbon footprint?

[@ericgeorge7874]

What wasn't mentioned is the earlier collaboration with Russia's UAC. They could have used UAC's own developed PD-14 engines but I think they mutually stopped the collaboration because of the anticipated sanction issue. So now UAC is continuing their Irkut MC-21 (200/300/310) domestically to be ready in 2025/6. Russia's older planes will need the MC-21 for replacement (TU-134, TU-154, TU-204 and YAK-42).

[@jayceh]

Remember that Chinese airlines in general are amongst the safest in the world, and China Southern has more flights and also a higher safety ranking than Delta and United according to JACDEC The Chinese FAA takes safety very seriously - they were the first FAA in the world to ground thr 787-MAX whereas the US FAA succumbed to political pressure from Boeing until well after the second crash

[@THEOUTLAWS209]

Probably safer than Boeing right now

[@user-em5wy8zx7o]

Since the majority of its main parts are from boeing suppliers, it is quite difficult to call comac 100% made in china. Thus, it is quite difficult to underestimate their products.

[@blazingstar9638]

They’re being made terribly now, it doesn’t even matter

[@user-tt6il2up4o]

@@blazingstar9638your talking about Boeing I guess as they are the worlds worst air raft manufacture.

[@nerrailwaygorakhpur7173]

Who's said that it is 100% made in China or from China? This is just started Airbus and Boeing is century old Companies first note down the time. Despite these problems and situations what they are achieving is a 1% only out of 100 wait and watch

[@jazzman7167]

​@@blazingstar9638I would get on a c919 over a 737 max any day of the week.

[@JJN631]

Doesn't matter

[@f_pie]

Jez, the US is not happy with giving up drone production to China, now we’re gonna let them have plane production too just because grandpa US aerospace firms can’t compete, how embarrassing… 😳

[@whiskeykilo2h429]

This is because the globalists want it that way.

[@Ttui89.]

Still, Chinese 🇨🇳 Xi Jinpig uses Boeing. -Emirates 🇦🇪, the world's leading airline uses 133 boeing 777s with orders for 205 777s and 35 787s. -Ryanair 🇮🇪, one of the leading european low cost airlines uses 547 boeing 737s, with no major incidents with orders for another 224. -Southwest 🇺🇸, uses 817 boeing 737's with orders for 495 more. No comac, in fact comac *isn't even certified* to fly in many regions and even Embraer, a Brazilian 🇧🇷 manufacturer has had more orders and deliveries for their jets. Lol

[@johnsoncao3114]

Yes, it’s not a secret. Same like Chinese mobile phones industry, there is no Chinese brands at first, technology needs time. There is no need to shame. Start is better than nothing 😂

[@Ttui89.]

@@johnsoncao3114 you can't compare mobile phones to airplanes

[@OiOiSillyBoi]

Comac isn’t going to break into the market anytime soon; it’s not even certified nor does it have the credibility of a long history. For the record, Airbus is the biggest manufacturer in the world. More airbus aircraft fly worldwide than Boeing aircraft. United Airlines has heavily adopted airbus since Boeing’s mishaps.

[@johnsoncao3114]

​@@Ttui89. Yes, sure they are not the same level in complexity. What I mean, you can achieve.

[@widodoakrom3938]

Source: trust me bro

[@kiribetio123]

These planes are far safer than Boeing made planes.