Can China win the AI arms race?

[@DrWaku]

Just after I recorded this video, the US put additional restrictions in place on capital investment. They're trying to block all tech investment into China from the US. I'm sure there's more to come as the two countries vie for position here. Sorry I'm a day late publishing this one, it was tough to record on time.

[@DrWaku]

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[@benarcher372]

Right now, no time to regulate. Every company wants to harvest the huge profits from being first. Thank you for the interesting video.

[@DrWaku]

Yep, this is the US perspective and I'm sure it's shared across many other country/companies. There is so much money to be made, people can't think about much else.

[@GeneralDominick]

Another amazing video!!! You do a great job of giving only protein and not fluff, you do a great job of having the viewers attention for the entire video ! Keep up the good work

[@DrWaku]

Thank you very much!!

[@jverart2106]

Hello, Doc! Thank you so much for this video!!! I was genuinely curious about China's development on AI and you definitely delivered! There must be a lot of interesting stuff in those papers they are releasing. Also, I wonder how the data issued from their mass surveillance has an impact on AI models. This is definitely an arms race. Which reminds me, the space race is also back with the recent news about Russia's rocket crashing on the moon or something? I wonder how AI arms race will be reflected on this. See you on the next video! :)

[@DrWaku]

This video idea was in part thanks to your comment on the previous geopolitics video. Appreciate the feedback! Feel free to keep dropping cool news or ideas especially if it's AI related :) I'm trying to stick on theme for most of my videos until I have a larger audience. I'm not sure there's enough about Russia to make a separate video on it but I will add it to my backlog... And as always, thanks for watching and commenting! It's greatly appreciated.

[@jverart2106]

@@DrWaku this is so awesome! :) as part of your audience, I can tell we are all always looking forward to your insights. As for topics, I'll definitely be dropping ideas. For example, works being done on interpreting animals and plants' language and communication. I saw a couple of videos about it recently. By the way, I don't remember if you have digged into alpha fold and everything related to the medical field. There is A LOT of things that are about to change in medicine very very soon and I am sure you can illustrate these topics very well! :)

[@vernongrant3596]

I walked out of the supermarket the other day without paying for a packet of vegetarian sausages, they were under an unused bag in my shopping trolley. I returned to pay for them and the woman who served me said "at least you're honest." I said, "no it's more about paranoia, there are surveillance cameras everywhere". When I got home my phone pinged, and I thought in the near future that would be a message telling me I hadn't paid for an item.

[@DrWaku]

Enforced honesty is one of the dreams of the surveillance state. The other is that everybody believes they have nothing to hide... Which might be true until you end up on a list for doing something innocuous and they can pull decades of history and scrutinize it for something you've done wrong. Thanks for the story though. This is the type of realization that not everybody goes through, trying to figure out what the future will look like. Let us know what you come up with :)

[@robertjames9777]

Imagine an intellect that can out think and respond in m/secs ,while constantly improving its abilities. Hate to say it but we r screwed.

[@illogicmath]

Very informative video as always. I wonder if the Chinese government also exerts that strict and suffocating social control that it exerts on its population, over the ruling clique

[@DrWaku]

Thanks! I've heard that the CCP is very strict with members of its own party so that people are afraid to say no to power now. It's part of the problem with the country trying to deal with complicated issues, they don't have enough people anymore. Like the Chinese balloon that floated over the US just days before some important person from the US was going to visit China. Skeleton crew, left hand not talking to the right hand.

[@bobmorane4926]

Last i remember is that when the covid lockdowns became too suffocating, the ppl in China made their voices heard in China with lots of protests and the government did a 180 turn and opened up completely. Is that a dictatorship or is it listening to its ppl and ruling accordingly ? On the other hand, did the governments listen to ppl in the west complaining abt the vaccines being shoved down their throats even as concerning issues started to surface ? Not really ... Ccp isn't more authoritarian than your avg gov in the West. The reason the Ccp can carry out this surveillance is because the population mass understands its use and benefits. When you know this can be used to prevent the next bombing of a subway or the next attack of the kindergarten and they can compare with all the gun shootings going on in Murica, i guess it becomes a no brainer for 1.4 billions ppl to accept the upsides of mass surveillance. Are they aware of the downsides ? Probably but like everything in life they are mature enuff to weigh the upsides vs the downsides and its an internal matter to the chinese ppl and the Ccp. But if the Chinese ppl decide someday that surveillance is something they don't like, don't worry, they'll find a way to vent their frustrations and make the changes happen. Like they did with the Covid lockdowns...

[@Sci-Que]

Great video. My personal favorite that you posted. What countries are the villains in the world? What countries are the heroes? I won't attempt to answer that because it is far above my pay grade. Where do I want to see AI be the most powerful? Here in the US. It is where I live.

[@asamirid]

iam pleased to say, i became a hard fan and addicted to ur videos and this channel, thank you dr., thumb up for all the hard effort ✅✅..

[@DrWaku]

Thank you for your kind words! I'm glad to have someone returning all the time, it's always great to see! Until the next one...

[@SmilingCakeSlice-jv8ku]

Yes, I Can say hello to you all and AI is for all of us in world

[@mxc2272]

yo dude are you a chatbot?? I am concerned....

[@DrWaku]

Haha nope. Check out some of the videos in my disability playlist to see why I look kind of 2D

[@davout5775]

The US is the top investor in AI beating all other nations in the world combined! The US is also by far the largest producer of AI tools again beating the rest of the world combined. The US is pretty much the go to place if you want AI hardware from Nvidia, AMD and to a lesser extend Intel. Among those you have Google, Qualcomm and Apple to a smaller extend. As well as other smaller players. There is little to no competition in the AI hardware. In the West it is realistically 100% the US. There are so smaller players in China but the vast majority of the Chinese hardware comes from America. I remember in 2018 Nvidia made AI available to everybody with the announcement of their RTX GPUs with first gen Tensor cores. Now we are into the 3rd gen Tensor and Nvidia dominates the market. The US is the go-to place for the top 1% and top 0.1% AI talent in the world as well and all that is due to the pure number dominance. America has the largest companies developing NN and they are also the richest companies. A company like Microsoft has more money in the bank than a lot of nations' GDP figures. Of course the US has the first mover advantage. They were the earliest to start developing and they are currently dominating. America also has the advantage of being mostly an English speaking nation and most of the info on the internet is in English as well as most of the highest quality data. America is also home to the world's highest data capacity with having ovr 2,700 data centers compared to China's 440+ as well as more than 50% of all hyperscale data centers in the world. Basically everything that the US needs is right there - software, hardware, data, funding, talent, top R&D institutions, top universities everything! It would be really hard to compete with the US in AI but of course nothing is impossible!

[@DrWaku]

True. There's a reason I didn't directly compare monetary investment in dollar amounts though, which is that a dollar doesn't get you as far in the US because everything from labor cost to data access is more expensive. It's a difficult situation to analyze fully. I spoke in a previous video about how the US has been losing top talent at their universities for a while now because of stricter border regulations. They have stayed at the forefront of investment for sure. But there aren't as many advantages as there have been historically. It'll be interesting to see how the situation evolves.

[@davout5775]

​@@DrWaku Labor costs are not all that problematic when we talk about such advanced industries. I'm sure Baidu has no problem paying their engineers as much as they are paid in the US. Another thing that is not looked when people talk about cost differences is the fact that higher costs more often than not means higher quality. Food prices in Europe are higher but the quality and standards are unmatched anywhere in the world period! The same stands true here. America has more data than the rest of the world combined, higher funding than the rest of the world combined, more top AI research institutions than the rest of the world combined, more top AI engineers than the rest of the world combined and thus they produce more AI tools than the rest of the world combined. And if we strictly compare labor costs the AI engineers are paid the highest compared to any other nations in the world. They not only produce the most AI tools but also the highest quality AI tools on which I think we don't even need a statistic to prove that.

[@Sci-Que]

I am not as confident as you are in what you say. China is a rich country and their scientists and engineers are absolute experts in reverse engineering technological advancements. I hope you are right though.

[@davout5775]

@@Sci-Que The thing is that the US tech industry is hungry for AI. Catching to a nation that has such a high demand + extraordinary lead in AI, ML and especially the hardware that powers everything up is really hard to beat. Eventually things might change but that might happen when the market is saturated enough and thus the rapid advancement is stopped. For the near future tho the US lead would continue to exist

[@Sci-Que]

One thing I feel certain of is this. whoever develops the first self improving superintelligence will never have to worry about the competition again. I hope the US gets it first. @@davout5775

[@toneybrooksmedia2235]

Yours is my go-to channel for all things AI. The videos are excellent! One very small detail I noticed in this video: hand gestures. I think all this waving around is distracting. Keep up the good work! Just spitballing, but I think the intel agencies, ours, China's and the EU, already have AGI. Likely Mossad too.

[@DrWaku]

Hmm, other people tell me they like the hand gestures, but I often feel like I'm doing it a bit too much in the beginning. If you have a specific section in mind please do let me know. It's possible that there's a contained AGI out there already. But one that has some impact on and influence on the world would probably become visible through the types of decisions and changes being made. Yuval Noah Harari believes he would be able to spot AGI this way, kind of like future historians in the Foundation novels.

[@tellitasitis]

Can China win the AI arms race? is an interesting Question. Is their a limit to how intelligent AI can ever be. Is the race just where you are on the track at a given time towards its endpoint. You win the race one day and lose it the next if your AI is overtaken on the AI race track.

[@DrWaku]

"Is their a limit to how intelligent AI can ever be." Not that we know of. If there is a limit, it's likely to be very high.

[@tellitasitis]

@@DrWaku Thank you for taking the time to respond to me Sir. My Guess was when it can find out all that is knowable and solve all problems that can be solved. Perhaps their is more to the definition of intelligence then memory, perception and problem solving.

[@williamal91]

Hi Doc

[@DrWaku]

Hi Alan :)