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@StumpyNubs5 жыл бұрын
Healing. Pin comes out next week.
@alpaca67665 жыл бұрын
Gaurd or guard?
@cfrandom5 жыл бұрын
@@alpaca6766 Gourd.
@EPSTomcat113 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for making this video. For sanding and finishing, do close-fitting gloves make sense? If so do you have any recommendations?
@StumpyNubs3 жыл бұрын
@@EPSTomcat11 Some like gloved to reduce vibration from their sander. Nitrile gloves are also very useful for finishing, but wash the oil and powder off the outside so you don't get finger prints on the wood that show up after the finish is applied.
@A1BASE5 жыл бұрын
Gear producing complacency is a real thing. There's an axiom in the skydiving world called Booth's Law #2. Bill Booth is the inventor of pretty much every piece of skydiving safety equipment out there, and his axiom states "The safer skydiving gear becomes, the more chances skydivers will take, in order to keep the fatality rate constant." The same is true of shop safety gear I think.
@erichildebrand12905 жыл бұрын
Fatality rate appears to climb disproportionately faster than every improvement in gear safety affords in BASE though, huh? :/ Soooo new to woodworking but trying to apply the same safety mindset to woodworking as skydiving.
@A1BASE5 жыл бұрын
@@erichildebrand1290 BASE jumpers are weird. We already know that. They're the outliers on the graph of what's considered normal in appreciating risk. The best advice I can give someone coming from skydiving to woodworking is to pay it the same respect. Slow down. If you're rushing you're either producing something shit or you're working dangerously. That said, I've only 5 years playing with power tools myself.
@heyimamaker5 жыл бұрын
I got chewed out on a video where a guy was working on an anti-kickback skill saw. The main comment was that someone saw a guy get kickback and the saw went into his thigh. I asked if the person was using the tool properly and it seemed like it didn't matter if they were or were not. The point I was trying to make was understanding how a tool works and minimizing injury by having these safety measures in place vs relying on them to keep you safe are two totally different things. Having airbags and seatbelts doesn't mean you can drive like an idiot.
@mikestanmore2614 Жыл бұрын
There exists an internal register of stress/excitement. When the environment becomes safer, humans subconsciously adjust their behaviour to bring it back to match their 'internal setting'. The same problem affects driving, as cars became safer and easier to drive, people started doing more stupid shit behind the wheel.
@timelmore25 жыл бұрын
I use these gloves for whittling. They are great at keeping me from prematurely painting my work red.
@GaryGreenway5 жыл бұрын
I've had my glove get caught in a large hammerdrill. It took a few seconds to stop after I released the trigger. My hand was sore for a week. I was lucky. I also had a co-worker that lost a thumb when a glove got caught in a drill press. Another co-worker got his glove caught on a motorized sewer snake. (No one wants to touch those things!) His arm was sore for many days. He was lucky too. The lesson learned from these three incidents is that all could have been made safer by the use of tear-away nitrile or latex gloves. While they offer no cut or impact resistance, they do protect against fluids, dirt, and concrete dust. In the woodworking world, they protect against cleaners, solvents, and resins. They also serve as a reminder not to touch your eyes in a shop environment.
@seattledan Жыл бұрын
As always, great advice. I have a love/hate relationship with my table saw. I always say a short prayer before I use it. Today, I was using my table saw with my gloves on and noticed the velcro strap on my glove was loose and it was near the blade. I realized I could have easily been sucked in. Valuable lesson. Thanks for the tape suggestion!
@prettyprincess81873 жыл бұрын
I don't use power tools but I'm getting into woodworking and I'm trying to find the best safety gear. This was so useful.
@bobd51195 жыл бұрын
I believe the best gloves for protection from power tools are the ones that are as many inches thick as you can manage, made of air.
@gotchurebeacons-gaming90235 жыл бұрын
I’m becoming a fan, friend. Your advice is more than one-sided personal opinion...it’s thoughtful and thorough and 2 sided with a sound look at reality. Thank you. I hope your fingers are healing well...that was truly an alarming event...and a dose of wake-up for anyone with sloppy safety habits. I mean...if a safety conscious person like yourself can fall prey to an angle grinder...we all need to step up our game. I disc sanded the tip of my fingernail last weekend...I was wearing snug fitting gloves but still didn’t realize how close my fingers getting...and I felt a little safer with the gloves on. Luckily, the lesson was learned and the nail will grow back. That’s the best kind of lesson. So...no more gloves when power tools are involved...the tape idea is great!
@durrwooddude5 жыл бұрын
A simple rule to follow is no gloves with or near rotating parts.
@jeremygunkel5 жыл бұрын
Gloves and rotating equipment are a no for me.
@jeremyrock93055 жыл бұрын
jeremy gunkel absolutely unless you like your hands ripped off !
@jlw35cudvm5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Only use them to move things from my car to my garage.
@jaybloggs86995 жыл бұрын
@@OreoBambino agreed.. we (🇦🇺 mining industry) are ONLY allowed to use a heavy duty boilermakers/hot work type long gloves 🧤 with a 5/7" grinder. Any other rotating equipment it's a big NO.
@toysoldier465525 жыл бұрын
Well working metal with a grinder is a different type of beast. If you're working wood which a lot of folks do, (not me call me a chicken but I prefer a Dremel tool), you shouldn't wear gloves with woodworking on a grinder. Metal working, yes, otherwise your hands will look like minced meat before long due to the burns and other abrasions.
@jeremygunkel5 жыл бұрын
@@OreoBambino I agree. The nice thing about metal grinding is you don't have to deal with the changing grain of wood that can cause the blade to catch and ruin your day.
@markbe56034 жыл бұрын
For someone who just had emergency surgery after cutting through my pinkie knuckle and all the ligaments and tendons on my hand, this was a very good video. Yes- I was wearing gloves.
@DanielLopez-kt1xt5 жыл бұрын
What i was told when i was studying (car tecnician) was that all protection gear should be used UNTIL it creates a higher risk on it's own (never try to sharpen a drill bit using gloves in the grinding stone, a loosen string might get caught, or even the glove itself, as you said before, if you don't see your own hand, you will get closer). I've never had a major accident, and i hope it stays the same for a very long time, safety should never bee overlooked at.
@forecon115 жыл бұрын
Cut resistant gloves develop bad habits. Great safety tip. Thanks for showing your hand (we are sick puppies), glad to see your nubs are looking better. You can not imagine how many digit have been saved by your misfortune. Again, you serve us well. Keep healing.
@johncware665 жыл бұрын
Great service you are doing for your viewers with these safety videos.
@RAkers-tu1ey2 жыл бұрын
Another complete agreement. I have worked as a mechanic, welder, commercial cabinet maker, and general fabricator. Use gloves for hot stuff, jack hammers and hammer drills for padding, and to handle materials, but not while performing power cutting or drilling operations. Grinding and power sanding? Maybe, but very carefully. Great video!.
@mikedeman53515 жыл бұрын
These safety-related videos are really great. They are a real eye-opener.
@jaybloggs86995 жыл бұрын
Don't forget your 👁 and 👂🏼 protection either 🙌🏼
@klikkolee2 жыл бұрын
I heard the "no gloves with power tools 98% of the time" advice a while back, and definitely plan to implement it when I start doing projects. The advice wasn't framed in terms of pulling your hand into a saw though -- it was framed in terms of even a weak glove being strong enough to let the machine pull and twist your hand. A glove could turn a 1-finger amputation into a whole-hand shattering or even amputation. It highlights why gloves are a problem even for power tools which lack spinning blades. A lathe is the machine where I'd be the most afraid of this kind of incident -- having the machine try to wrap my hand and arm around the workpiece. This also makes me wonder how effective a very weak glove such as a nitrile glove would be for avoiding this pitfall.
@joetoner88485 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you 🙏. I’ve used gloves with my table saw outdoors in cold weather & wondered about just what you said. No more...if it’s that cold where I want to use gloves, I’m done for the day! Hoping for dedicated woodworking shop in my retirement years!
@Hiro2k2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making me aware of a dangerous mistake I was about to commit. I was thinking these cut resistant gloves could help in case of my finger getting too close, but now I won't even risk it. I'll stick to the nitrile gloves when I'm staining and deal with other chemicals but not for using the power tools.
@McFlysGarage5 жыл бұрын
When I was a meat cutter we had real chainmail gloves for our holding hand but when using the bone saw no gloves or the grinder
@McFlysGarage5 жыл бұрын
Brynjard Øvergård Had to wear chainmail when cutting up fish too. Whatever. Didn’t bother me
@McFlysGarage5 жыл бұрын
@@stevejesus6525 we used it for breaking down larger cuts of beef or pork. its been a while so I cant tell you what got turned into what but we had it and it was a machine you respected
@syirogane4 жыл бұрын
The last time I had a meat pie (about 25 years ago), I found chunks of chainmail.
@usedcarsokinawa3 жыл бұрын
Your great vids have convinced me to trust and use push sticks much more. Thank you
@Riidher5 жыл бұрын
Well said, James! I am a carpenter, have been my entire life. However, that being said I spent the last 25 years in the safety business. Specifically, construction safety. I'm a former safety compliance officer with Oregon OSHA. I have seen so many power tool accidents than I can't count them all and investigated many more. I have had my share of injuries too. A good pair of tight-fitting cut resistant gloves can reduce the injury but it can't stop it and if you go too far, you can have catastrophic results. Thank you for putting the word out. We all need to watch out for each other. It is a dangerous business we are in.
@stuartscott96465 жыл бұрын
With you 100% James.
@davidkay13864 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this video but I couldn't remember what the tape was called. Now I got the info. Thanks James.
@randomuser7785 жыл бұрын
Hope your recovery is going well. When does the pin come out? That grinder bite vid really, *really* opened my eyes. I still cringe thinking about it.
@StumpyNubs5 жыл бұрын
Comes out next week
@berksoaks43405 жыл бұрын
I hope your recovery goes well too my man! I've learned plenty of tips and tricks from you and will be referencing your content for years to come. I new ever since seeing that chainsaw grinder blade product a few years ago it should never have been manufactured. There needs to be new legislation written to ban the import and manufacturing of them...
@davidhawley11325 жыл бұрын
I have one of those disks. I just bought an electric chainsaw which I think should be safer at the same task.
@damienhartley32224 жыл бұрын
@@davidhawley1132 It Is a little safer but wear eye protection and keep it lubed up elts it can break the chain
@southernblueblood54025 жыл бұрын
After your experience with a angle grinder it's a wonder your not wearing a full suite of armor. Seriously glad your are doing better and am grateful for these safety videos. Merry Christmas
@sejoki15 жыл бұрын
I usually get really dry hands from all the dust in the shop, so pretty much the only time I use gloves is to get a better grip when moving around large sheets of plywood or particle board. A friend who works in a metal shop told me to him, the most dangerous machine is the drill press. It was a really heavy one that even two people couldn’t lift. I don’t even want to imagine what would happen if it catches your hand.
@413DaveRN5 жыл бұрын
I'm so fast I'll pull my hand away from the blade before I realize I cut my finger off! Thank you for all your safety tips over the years and I hope you're healing up!
@paulvandriel23445 жыл бұрын
And, another great one from James' stable. Hope your hand is healing well and all will be fine again.
@jamesbillington47914 жыл бұрын
Good info, well thought out - thanks for the info!
@abdulelkhatib26744 жыл бұрын
I agree with his argument about gloves. A good example is when once I was using a router upside down because I don't own a router table. I just tightened the collet by hand because it seemed like it held fine. And oh boy was I wrong. As soon as the bit hit a weird grain pattern or knot the dull bit threw the small piece of wood out of my hands and then ejected which cut the tip of my middle and ring finger very badly. It cut into a nerve in my finger. The whole top inner half of my finger skin was gone. Since then I have been terrified to use my router and have a 1/2 inch scar on my finger from the accident. Oh also I wasn't wearing glasses or any thing like that so if said bit hit me in the face I would have been screwed. I learned: don't use dull cutting edges on tools, always tighten the blade/ bit ALL THE WAY, don't use a router up side down free standing, and the people at my local ER are very nice.
@randomguy32815 жыл бұрын
My grandfather got his glove into a wood chipper and it pulled 3 fingers in half way. This happened when I was 13. Ever since then I have acutely understanded the risks of gloves that provide a risk of snagging. You recommend tape, I would recommend trying out latex gloves. If you don’t sweat enough to make them uncomfortable, they are good for helping prevent splinters, but weak enough to rip away it snagged.
@Yawles5 жыл бұрын
I like the safety series! Very well done. Thanks for giving safety a focus.
@sean32785 жыл бұрын
I work with my uncle doing floors and he requires all of his employees to wear cut resistant gloves while we are removing carpets not gonna lie it has saved me 2 times that I can remember where it would have been a very bad cut because I had a lapse in focus and took the box cutter straight to the hand
@smilemore19973 жыл бұрын
@ his point is still valid. He didn’t mention a rotating blade in his comment.
@damonsmith72975 жыл бұрын
I'm a ten fingered survivor of a glove to magnetic drill accident. It took two surgeries and I now have permanent tendons damaged. The tougher the glove the more damage it creates in my opinion. Very good video safety lesson.
@notj57125 жыл бұрын
Tape. I never would have thought of that. Kind of brilliant.
@VitalityMassage8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this.
@richardhart38475 жыл бұрын
yep. complacency is the most dangerous tool in the workshop. about the same time you injured your hand I tried to cut of my thumb on a table saw. got 3/4 of the way through before I decided it was a bad idea. it is now in a splint and will be until February. the saw had all the anti stupidity bits but I still managed to get my thumb too close to the blade. 20 plus years of making sawdust and never more than a slight cut. this was not my saw, mine has several of the safety features removed to make blind cuts etc. because of this I am exceptionally vigilant of the position of my hands and fingers. my accident was down to simple complacency. and a dose of stupidity.
@seasem2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video. Thank you. So informative. You just saved me from buying gloves for my rotary blade. Because you're right. I was already feeling safe, and with that rather safe, and that safety feeling would have me moving into complacency. More vigilance, care and focus is what I'll move towards now. Much appreciated.
@neiltonks5 жыл бұрын
When I went to college, my lecturer wouldn't allow us to use gloves on any machinery. It was ok to handle the material to and from the equipment. But we got it drilled into us that if he saw us or even heard that we had worn gloves on any of the machines, we would be kicked off. Even now when I'm working at home no gloves only well fitting tops and certainly no sleeves.
@Sebastopolmark5 жыл бұрын
VERY WELL said Mr Nubs! !! !!!
@LeoGwizdala5 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of the ‘gloves in the workshop ‘ debate I have heard.
@ImpGimp2 жыл бұрын
I wear gloves all the time in my shop, but I rarely even use power tools, and if so I take them off because I am really afraid of that chance...
@philipbyrnes75015 жыл бұрын
And so sorry to see your the damage you did to your hand mate. Would have offered my sympathies earlier but does nasty things to me thinking about it. So very sorry for you mate. I have nerve damage down my left arm and hand from a couple of neck operations in the last two years that didn’t go too well and have been living on pain killers to settle it ever since so I have an understanding of what you’re re going through with your hand. Again, I’m so sorry mate, nerve pain is a dreadful thing and I hope you get stronger and better soon and that the pain settles forever. Take care James and stop trying to live up to being “Stumpy Nubs”, we like ya just fine without stumps 😎👍🏻
@dmazurat90722 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video and you're right about accidents happening so fast. This I know having three memorable workplace accidents, falling off a ladder, steelcase falling on my shoulder and also getting my leg trapped under a small forklift battery that toppled. All these happened before I could react. I've researching work safety because I plan on working alot with saws this winter. Mitre saw, table saw and reciprocating saw. After some thought, for my situation since most of my tasks will be stationary I came with the idea of a "deadman's switch or pedal". Got this idea from the Toronto Transit streetcars which have them. Amazon has them for about $50. Again thank you for the realistic and educational video.
@SteveC385 жыл бұрын
Great points! My Grandfather was an electrician and never used rubber coated handled tools of any kind for the very reasons you described (false sense of security and complacency) I'm pretty sure he was as wise as he was old. The whole thing kinda brings to mind the whole "Johnny B Good" thing... don't drink don't smoke what do you do... no rings, no necklaces, no long sleeves, no long hair, no shoes, no shirt, no service... omg too many rules! My head is going to explode! Whatever, I'm glad to see you're wound is coming along and hope you kick your cold quickly. Cheers Brother 👍
@marcfavell5 жыл бұрын
Wearing gloves in the shop makes it way more dangerous, can catch and pull you to the blades, my grandfather taught me that when I was real young. cheers from Windsor Ontario 🇨🇦 I really enjoy your videos keep it up!!
@kb6dxn5 жыл бұрын
No gloves, rings, long sleeve shirts, jackets or long hair not tied back is the rule for working in wood shops or metal shops, auto shops have most of these common sense rules as well. I see safety like gambling, how much are you willing to lose based on the chances you are will to take.
@billgiles32615 жыл бұрын
James Bowen I wish I had hair to tie back.
@gregtaylor93315 жыл бұрын
I know you don't control the ads at the start of your video but I think you might appreciate that it just started with an ad for a band saw designed for pathology (IE a butcher's band saw) featuring an operator wearing surgical gloves!!!!
@TheBearGrylz5 жыл бұрын
Good topic man. Answered questions I didn’t realize I asked myself.
@DeDraconis5 жыл бұрын
I don't use power tools all that often, but a piece of advice I was given when I was younger was that "You can wear gloves using reciprocating blades, but not rotating blades." So using gloves for the jigsaw was okay since it goes back and fourth and "releases" whatever it might have grabbed, but the circular saw will just drag you hand in until it's mince. I tend to not wear gloves for either, but I still remember that. I don't know how true it is, I've never tested it or seen a video doing so.
@StumpyNubs5 жыл бұрын
It's similar to what I said- no gloves with most rotary tools. A jig saw isn't going to pull you in because of the short stroke. But a band saw will.
@DeDraconis5 жыл бұрын
@@StumpyNubs Oh really? Thanks for clarifying that. I didn't know it was because of stroke length. I would have thought a band saw is fine because it goes back up the same way it came.
@donfillenworth17214 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of your efforts and information that you share. Be safe. Thanks for sharing.
@Akerfeldtfan5 жыл бұрын
I hear and agree with your concerns about gloves getting caught in machinery. I think the one thing I'll note is that some of us are working in cold areas like garages that aren't well heated in the wintertime. A numb hand is probably more dangerous than a gloved one. That said, you could argue that both are dangerous and we should just get a better heating solution, but here I am, being poor.
@mauriceryton5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Always good to be fully aware of the danger of all the tools out there. My personal motto is keep your hands away from the tool cutting edges or behind the cutting edge of hand tools.
@mauriceryton4 жыл бұрын
I saw that video, l am not sure what your point is. My motto holds true along with a lot of common sense and respect for the tools being used. After five decades of using power tools and hands tools l have all my digits on both hands. To each their own.
@eddieruby28935 жыл бұрын
Gloves, loose clothing, long sleeves are all NO GO
@Sadowsky465 жыл бұрын
Plus long hair
@squarelevelplumb5 жыл бұрын
@@Sadowsky46 Long beards . have you seen the photo of the guy that had his beard yanked out by a grinding tool.?
@lanecobb24625 жыл бұрын
Square, Level, & Plumb I was on a job site this year where one of the carpenters had a beard damn near down to his bellybutton. He was cutting stuff on a table saw and I couldn’t wait to get done and get out of there. I once had to fish severed digits out of the sawdust pile and rush the guy to the ER. No way I wanna pick a dudes’ face outta there. Gave me the hebejeebies.
@danield9543 жыл бұрын
I also removed the strings from all my hoodies, sometimes it is a bit chilly in the shop.
@terrycraig22925 жыл бұрын
Sound sensible advice, thank you James.
@terrytopliss64235 жыл бұрын
I use gloves to handle sheet board around my shop but not when I'm machining. My personal mantra is if it feels to close to spinning cutters think of another set up. The words that sometime don't figure in modern day areas of danger is COMMON SENSE.
@danield9543 жыл бұрын
I learned in shop class when I was 13 that gloves are never worn using woodwoking machines. I use the "cut resistant" gloves for sharpening or changing blades especially for the planer and jointer.
@elberthardy9615 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I too have had way-too-close calls, even wearing gloves. I sure don't want to have my glove wrap itself around some spindle with my hand in it. The Shaper is the most dangerous machine I have ever run. Its raised panel cutting blades spin so fast they turn invisible and my hands are less than 3" away. If fear makes me loose my grip, brrrring... and there goes my hand. I'm so glad I am no longer using that Shaper. Gloves would never work in most situations, unless, as you said, I am handling treated lumber or RS Cedar. Good advice on this video. Thanks again.
@StumpyNubs5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't run a shaper without a power-feeder. Too dangerous!
@elberthardy9615 жыл бұрын
@@StumpyNubs Exactly!
@paulnelson6483 жыл бұрын
As a former boss used to say, "the only thing you can do with gloves on is piss your pants."
@blaksin Жыл бұрын
Thanks man; you’re right; i’m gonna go slow again; trying to go fast because time is so limited; dumb way to think
@barryfigel99575 жыл бұрын
Thank you I've been debating on globes and you just made up my mind so I Order them
@craigsudman45565 жыл бұрын
Complacency breeds contempt. "Don't worry if I'm about to get cut on my table saw...I'll just pull my stump away before I get cut"..."Oh." I always tell the folks that I'm training to use power tools, "This things got teeth and it's hungry, it will bite you and swallow what it chews off and ask for more." I've been a carpenter pretty much for the last forty some odd years and I can still count to 10 with both hands, not 9-1/2. Thumbs up video.
@jaronsvideobunker93914 жыл бұрын
Watching this video after my hand slipped into the drill on a drill press. I was wearing gloves (not cut resistant, not that it would have mattered). It instantly cut down to the bone. I pulled away quick and I'm just glad the glove didn't get caught in.
@jimbo26295 жыл бұрын
When you overload an internal combustion engine it’s likely to stop. When you slow or stall an electric motor it develops more power. Less back emf. I hope you are recovering well. It would take a lot to persuade me to use an angle grinder again. If I did I would only use the on off switch so that it immediately goes off when I let go. That’s something I’ve learnt recently from you. I wondered about Kevlar gloves. I had a problem again with my site saw having a wide clearance insert plate. I am going to replace it with zero clearance.
@OPAIK2 жыл бұрын
I suggested numerous times to my work that we should invest in saw stop and the price of the cartridge during a accident kept them away from the purchase. I recently was milling PVC on a delta Unisaw. I was cutting on a angle curfing the piece to create a 1/8” tongue on a 110 degree 1 1/4” piece. I was midway through the cut and the piece lifted into the angled blade grabbing the pvc and took my stabilizer hand back into the blade cutting my Pointer and middle finger. I got extremely lucky and only needed stitches. It missed my bone and the rest of my hand since I was doing such a minimal cut. Still I will most likely not have feeling in my finger tips disabling me permanently. My boss had to pay workman’s comp for $25k usd for my injury and decided NOW to buy a saw stop. Avoid this headache and just spend the 3-5k on the sawstop.
@MarriedManWoodworking5 жыл бұрын
Stumpy, thanks for the great video. I didn't see a link to the tape. If I missed it in the notes, I apologize. Thanks again.
@rodpotts26665 жыл бұрын
Married Man Woodworking it's the same stuff they put around your arm after drawing blood, you can find it at about ant farm and ranch store in the horse section( foot wrap).
@StumpyNubs5 жыл бұрын
Gaurd tape: amzn.to/34aDiu9
@donniebrown28965 жыл бұрын
Go to the first aid section of any pharmacy, self sticking athletic tape or in the medical field it's called co- band. 7-10$ per roll and not all of it is blue, comes in many colors.
@jd-lv6gi Жыл бұрын
I used to wear a cut resistant glove on my left hand only (guide hand) when using a table saw to help protect from splinters. Had a splinter catch my glove in the middle of a rip cut about 3 feet into a 5 ft board. Even though I was able to shut off the saw without incident, i considered myself extremely lucky. My hand was well away from the blade but, things could have gone horribly wrong. Since then, no gloves EVER when using power tools for me.
@philipbyrnes75015 жыл бұрын
Always excellent and exceptional advice James, thank you
@chipb75705 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. We do not allow gloves or loose clothing in our shop. Only exception is hand held carving.
@MikeBramm5 жыл бұрын
I never wear gloves or any loose clothing when using power tools. A glancing touch to an un-gloved hand will cause some damage, usually pretty minor. As shown in your video, a glove can be caught by the power tool and cause the hand to be pulled into the blade/cutter/bit, usually causing much more damage than an un-gloved hand.
@gregtaylor93315 жыл бұрын
I agree that gloves should not be used with most stationary and rotary power tools but as noted they do provide protection from splinters and sharp edges: (I will use them when moving rough wood for example) They are also useful in demolition tools/processes such as using a reciprocating saw and I find some of the anti vibration gloves make extended use of orbital and random orbital sanders more tolerable. I also find use for physician exam style "rubber" gloves (They aren't made from latex anymore) for finishes and polyurethane glue (no dark stains on the hands!!) BTW the tape you are using is called "Coban" or "vet wrap" and can usually be found in most pharmacies.
@petercowell20515 жыл бұрын
Like the video, thanks Stumpy Nubs. Glad to hear the hand is healing. I was amazed the other day when I cut some second hand timber on the table saw. I had done a metal detector check and marked where the old nails were. I missed the broken 5/16 bolt in the centre of the timber. Why was I amazed? Because the saw went through it as if it were butter.
@petercowell20512 жыл бұрын
@Bamboo Training No hesitation, noise or damage to blade. I guess it was mild steel.
@ManCrafting5 жыл бұрын
I used to use Kevlar gloves with my angle grinders with flap discs when polishing metal. I was always concerned about the pulling my hand in. Anecdotal, but I’d have 5-6 abrasions or cuts a week before the gloves and none in years after using them. I’d tear the gloves occasionally or get slight abrasions but my hands were good. I’m not arguing. It was always a concern and I may have actually been more attentive since I was worried. Who knows.
@seamus63875 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've always thought the cut resist ones are only good for the occasional nick, nothing more. As far as gloves when using machinery the only one I know who uses them "safely" are a few guys I know or have seen that have allergy problems and, even they don't wear them with some machines. So, gloves can keep you from needed a bandaid or maybe a few stitches from a knife but, in my opinion, that's about it.
@emm_arr5 жыл бұрын
Another good one. Thank you again. Hope your recovery is going well.
@richardchiswell65174 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice - many thanks
@erikgranqvist36805 жыл бұрын
Really thick welding gloves can give some protection against a quickie with an angle grinder. Not a real accident, but those small nicks and small burnmarks from debris -especially if you use the thing for metalworking. And an anglegrinder is kind of hurtfull to whack into the hand. It didnt bleed that much, since the wound was instantly burned. Got away with an infection and a scar from that one big scare. But the hand itself was fairly intact. My wife just taped the wound with some surgical tape since we didnt think it was any idea to go to the doctor to have them do the same thing (I live in Sweden, so the cost is not an issue - a doctors apointment cost somewhere between 10-20$ depending on where you live).
@rockytopwooddesigns12835 жыл бұрын
I agree totally, I also believe guards on table saws, joiners, etc. can cause complacency. Just because these things are on the machine doesn't mean you can't get hurt. Also some of the guards impede your vision.
@StumpyNubs5 жыл бұрын
No. Guards are not what I was talking about. Removing them is the opposite of what I was talking about.
@rockytopwooddesigns12835 жыл бұрын
@@StumpyNubs Oh I know and agree, I just mean some people think if they have the guards on they can't get hurt.
@christopherfeld63715 жыл бұрын
In my time as a Millwright, I was usually provided with leather gloves, but I did wind up with a few pairs of cut-resistant gloves on one job. Never tested my gloves against blades, but I did notice that the cut-resistant gloves seemed to be more durable than other gloves.
@christopherfeld63715 жыл бұрын
That said, I've rarely felt the need for gloves while woodworking. I like to be able to feel what I'm doing, I don't want the gloves to get caught in moving machinery, I don't want to risk soiling the wood with whatever may be on the glove, the workpieces for the most part aren't hard on the hands, and beyond busting knuckles on the edge of a board, I can't imagine what hand injuries in a wood shop would be mitigated by gloves.
@kevinwatt78715 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, so informative, I personally never ware gloves on power tools, I saw a foreign contractor loose most of his hand on a 4 foot pedestal grinder (yeah that’s a big grinder) because his glove got caught between the rest and the stone and dragged him in. Keep up the good work, and I hope your hand heals quickly, Happy Christmas, Kev in the UK.
@ypaulbrown5 жыл бұрын
James... your videos are great!!!! Thanks so much
@DragonGateDesign5 жыл бұрын
Great video and advice, people also get Injured without gloves
@RollinShultz5 жыл бұрын
You made a lot of good points here. Unfortunately there is no one size fits all form factor or procedure for shop safety and there is no idiot light to warn someone what they are about to do is unwise. Gloves used carelessly can be a detriment as also loose fitting garments. I prefer using gloves for metal working, wood working, and specialty gloves like paints, stains and thinners. I also prefer them for grinding, but in those cases I take precautions as though not wearing gloves. They have saved my hands many times from gashes and abrasions. I also try to wear an apron. There are many good shop aprons, but I don't use them. I use a chef's apron which is heavy and waterproof, so it can do double duty when I am pressure washing or grit blasting. All in all, there is NO substitute for common sense in and around the shop. Something many people do not think about is PROCEDURE. One must develop safe procedures and take steps to follow them. Do what works for you, but do it consistently.
@djpenton7795 жыл бұрын
When using power tools I take off gloves. I also take off my apron, any shirt with sleeves, etc.
@avacox3325 жыл бұрын
Maybe I’m wrong for doing so but I always leave my leather apron on when using my table saw. The thought process is to help protect my core and vital organs in the event of a kickback. I never lean over my saw when it is running but I can see how it could be a problem if I did and the apron was loose fitting
@djpenton7795 жыл бұрын
@@avacox332 I think you are probably ok doing that. Years ago I worked in a factory that produced camper and trailers; the sawyer who ran the table saw wore a fibreglass reinforced apron after being struck in the groin by a kickback. However my apron is a cloth one from Lee Valley. I am always worried about the straps - I have them tied up so the ends aren't flopping around, but I worry they will come loose if my attention is elsewhere. This is a greater concern with my jointer because the cutters are at waist level.
@Hawks9223 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your insight regarding safety gloves, definitely has settled a decision on buying gloves that I was going to get. Keep up the good v blogs
@jreyman5 жыл бұрын
My policy is no gloves, no rings (absolutely important for tungsten rings), no long sleeves or coats (during cold weather). Basically nothing is allowed near spinning blades, etc. Anyone using my equipment is held strictly to that policy. If you have a SawStop you also inhibit finger detection if you wear gloves.
@nightcatarts5 жыл бұрын
I agree with using those thin Kevlar cut resistant gloves only for hand tools, & have a pair myself for use with knives & smooth blades, but the ones I've got (which will stop a knife no problem) have not turned out to be any good against a chisel because they aren't rigid enough. I think perhaps something with a thin Kevlar weave & plates of metal or ABS would offer the most protection for hand tools overall, though I haven't seen any like this that are still thin enough not to put a disconnect between the hand & the tool/workpiece. I also keep a pair of thick leather gloves around for certain lathe tasks. I snipped off the fingertips & the thumb, keeping enough material left to cover my knuckles. That way, if my hand hits the lathe chuck it won't take such a massive beating, & the thickness & lack of fibres in the material means it can't realistically get caught & pulled in, & them being thick & unwieldy isn't a problem since my fingertips are still there to feel the tool. Though I'm sure the lathe will eventually find a way to snag one of them, so far it works well enough & has protected me from some pretty nasty injuries.
@Robyrob77713 жыл бұрын
I worked in a factory that mandated gloves be worn by everyone all the time. They found that the added cost from gloves was paid by reduced hand injuries. Almost everyone wore the tight fitting gloves. I am a fan of gloves!
@paristo5 жыл бұрын
Rules: #1 no gloves with power tools that are fixed in place, like table saws, band saws, sanding machines, press drills etc. Only for hand tools, like chainsaws, angle grinders, carpet cutters etc. #2 gloves goes with the tool, not with the place. Meaning, if you use specific equipment and you swap tool or you put that equipment away, you take gloves away as well. #3 gloves are used as time required, you change the type and reason. Like if you are drilling with impact drill a hole to wall, you don't likely need a glove. If you drill a masonry and need to move parts etc, you use covering gloves. But if you are screwing screws etc, you do not use gloves at all. There are a lot of different kinds gloves for all kind situations and purposes, and it is a own process to buy to the correct ones for each different application. You can't buy just one or two and believe that they are fine or best, as each gloves are like women shoes, you just need to have dozens of pairs for every event, situation, combination etc. And people like woodworkers, are lazy that they do not swap gloves, take them off, put them on as it is a annoying and time consuming thing to do. Like the accident you had to your left hand, wrong kind of gloves for the tool and purpose, wrong tool handling. 1. Accident happened because wrong holding off tool. 2. Protective equipment didn't protect in accident against a special blade because wrong kind gloves. There are a lot of situations where you are better without safety equipment. But even then there are situations where you need the correct ones. Safety equipment is like any tool, you need many, and you need to know when and how to use them. Woodworking is one of those professions/hobbies where people do not understand risks well enough. High risk because lots of sharp tools, power tools and unthinkable working poses by using those.
@Puppygirl-hj1tn5 жыл бұрын
These videos are hard to watch but they’re right. I wore gloves until today. Thanks my friend.
@StumpyNubs5 жыл бұрын
Only gore in this one was a hotdog :)
@thomasgreen85325 жыл бұрын
I agree, 💯. Decades ago I made surgical instruments, the tools were dangerous. They wanted me to use gloves but I found out that I got a lot better protection from tape list very little of the dexterity that I needed to do the job. I had a OSHA guy go postal on me, the wanted me to wear these thick gloves and put shrouds on the machine. It would have done that, I would have lost an arm. My hands actually touched the abrasive belts while loading and loading the machine but never while the belt was moving fast enough to cut me. The tape protected me. If I did cut the tape it was easily fixed. Loosing very little time in the process. Today if I need to protect my fingers then I use tape. I use gloves when I am loading or unloading lumber. I worked 35 years in construction and I still have all my fingers because I was always aware of the dangers. I used my head for something than a place to put my hat. The best tool in my shop resides between my ears.
@GabrielPettier4 жыл бұрын
I had exactly that question, because i'm thinking into doing some woodworking as a hobby, and of course an electricaly powered rotating blade seems like a useful tool to have, but considering the dangers, and knowing professional gets maimed, I wondered about possible ways to protect one's hands, and of course, you can find kevlar gloves, but my ideas about how that would stand to such a tool were pretty much wild guesses, so it's good to have a simple video like this, clarifying in no uncerain terms, that no, they won't stand a chance, and be actually detrimental because of the side effects. Being a programmer, who learned to touch type a long time ago, losing a finger would be quite a life changing event (isn't it for anybody, anyway?), so I'm really weighting down the risks of getting into this hobby (i really do like seeing a tangible result to my work, but i know i can sometime be careless and move too fast, so that doesn't sound like a good mix).
@steveholman59785 жыл бұрын
I have some good-fitting gloves I wear when handling lumber; not when I'm cutting or machining so much, but just getting it from the truck to the shop, for example. I do find them quite helpful when using my jointer, however. The skin on my hands is normally very dry, and at my age, I don't have the grip strength I once had. That results sometimes in my hands slipping while trying to joint a board. The gloves have tackiness to them that allows me a good grip and, gloves or not, I do not pass my hand over the spinning jointer knives.
@paule.96382 жыл бұрын
I miss the beer can on the bench. Good video.
@squareswing5 жыл бұрын
Fear is your best safety friend. Understanding the laws of physics too.
@mpart_woodlathe-stuff5 жыл бұрын
Great arguments! -Mike
@regibson235 жыл бұрын
5:10 True. We had the transmission off on a car to see if there was an issue when the flywheel was running. I was wearing gloves and I went to point at the edge of the spinning flywheel. A friend quickly told me to pull my hand back. I did and then felt really stupid.
@thebeardedcountryman5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos dude, glad your fingers are in the mend 👍🏼
@TrevorDennis1005 жыл бұрын
I don't think that Kevlar was around when I started as a toolmaker in 1967. I had a few mishaps back then, but got into a grove and spent the next 35 years pretty much accident free. Since getting back into engineering and woodworking at the local Menz Shed I find I am way more accident prone than I used to be, and I make more errors with my work than I ever used to be. I have a decent scar on my left forefinger from an angle grinder, so I now always wear gloves when using an angle grinder. My favourites are Ironclad Ranchworx and they last me about a year of heavy use. I can't always find them though, and paid about half as much for some soft leather work gloves which shocked the heck out of me by burning right through in about a minute of sparks from an angle grinder hitting them. Cutting with the side of an end mill produces needle like swarf that gets into your fingers and is a nightmare. Nitrile gloves don't last five minutes, but I now use close fitting rubber infused gloves that cost me NZ$2 a pair from SuperCheap Autos (they are made by Tooline). These are fantastic for the money. They keep you clean and free of swarf splinters. Getting back to serious safety, gloves are only useful for the area they cover. We had an almost severed hand present at the local ED recently from a router accident. (I don't know what sort of router). Gloves would not have helped in this case. I don't wear gloves for the table saw, router bench or jointer because I need to feel what I am doing. That is especially true when using a flush router bit where I don't want the full depth taken on the first cut. I mentioned the Menz Shed, which has very few members with real engineering or professional wood working experience. The point here is that IME no professionals simply do not realise what the potential dangers are. They don't know about kickback, or climb cutting or wood lathe catches etc. My own wife was a demon with the chainsaw until I showed her a KZbin video on its potential dangers. She admitted that she had no idea and has not used a chainsaw since. So do try and watch KZbin videos like this, and send links to people you suspect might be accident prone.