Can England Actually Win The Euros?

Adam McKola, Rory Jennings, Buvey and JCC discuss the fallout from England's penalty shootout victory against Switzerland and whether they believe that Gareth Southgate's side can go on to win the tournament.
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[@giorgikharchilava7258]

By far the worst take of the video was Rorey telling Buvey "Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's"

[@sa-cb1pi]

Ye like was Buvey watching the game saka was by far our best player and the only real attacking threat

[@mylom8397]

Adam is completely correct on everything. It's nauseating to see Rory just go 180° and immediately get swept up in the emotion of the tournament.

[@joemakepeace6652]

almost as if hes just a fan, a human being that loves watching his country play football, have a day off you geek

[@sambroadhurst9091]

Rory “Rizla paper” Jennings Love it mate never stop

[@ypointNull]

Was Belkinghams overhead kick Gareth finding a way????? You guys should've been out the last 2 games off performance. Just random individual moments saving england.

[@davehoward22]

No manager is on the pitch

[@hyywe240]

I thought everything that happened was because of the manager? Or is just the bad stuff?

[@BSell-b1q]

"should've" "if" "deserved" the three words in the England hate watchers vocabulary

[@hyywe240]

@@BSell-b1q Gareth scapegoat and the worst fans in the world

[@kemuse1]

It's not luck to reach 3 semi finals in 4 tournaments. Head -> wobble.

[@AMCS0707]

This was painful to watch

[@roueljeremy8074]

Wait until England play again 😂😂😂

[@hyywe240]

@@AMCS0707 why?

[@augustusplays7896]

@@hyywe240all of a sudden Garth southgate is the truth lool

[@Murph_82]

Is why I can't watch a single second of it!

[@hyywe240]

@augustusplays7896 all of a sudden? Where have you been!? Semi final, final, quarter final, semi final. I love the guy! But I'm pretty old so I remember the shambles england have been for 40 years

[@kazstrange3664]

Saka was unbelievable against Switzerland, Buvey has had a howler here

[@kalel503]

Hasn’t beaten one decent side in years all of a sudden Southgate is good 😂

[@BSell-b1q]

Couple of days ago you lot were acting like Switzerland were prime Brazil, now we've beaten them all of a sudden they don't count cos they're bad 😂 same again for the Netherlands yeah fella?

[@kalel503]

@@BSell-b1q who was acting like they were Brazil? Sounds fake. We get it you like negative football

[@raj8294]

Germany?

[@tomw3452]

@@kalel503 literally everyone in england is saying the football is boring but we're not allowed to celebrate getting to a semi final now? come on bro.

[@cjc132]

​@kalel503 I like negative football if it wins us the euros. We don't even deserve it as a fan base tho. Bag of entitled, self sabotaging melts like yourself

[@samp.5111]

9:30 what is buvey saying - saka was our only threat. he beat his man 4/5 times in the first 60 mins, and no one was in the box to receive his cutbacks

[@Antonio-hb8rd]

He needs to lift his head up and pick a man out, he cuts back because it's what they do at Arsenal. He's not thinking.

[@holgz]

Saka played very well for me

[@commonsensei9772]

England always gets the easy road. If you were on the other side of the bracket you wouldn’t have made it past the first round.

[@詹姆斯-k2k]

They weren’t on the other side because they finished top. So avoided it on merit. What exactly is the point you are seemingly struggling to make?

[@EisernRob]

@@詹姆斯-k2kwhat? There were heaps of teams on the other side that finished top, what are you on about? Now that England are in the semi are you trying to rewrite history and trying to suggest that they haven’t had the easiest run out of any other top nation?

[@Joker-yw9hl]

Cope and seeth

[@EisernRob]

@@Joker-yw9hl trust me, no-one is jealous of England’s perennial loser status.

[@arsensie0824]

The point is that england topped their group whereas france and belgium did not, if they had they'd be on englands side. Basically it's not exactly englands fault

[@henrykearns4041]

It is luck, Jude Bellingham’s skill has nothing to do with the manager

[@hyywe240]

@henrykearns4041 well done jude for making england over perform for 4 tournaments in a row. The way he decided to go 3 at the back and press high up the pitch and go attacking. That was incredible. Remember when Bellingham got a team of dier, maguire, young, alli, Henderson, lingard to a world cup semi!? Pure individual talent .

[@EisernRob]

@@hyywe240he’s talking about this tournament. It was draw luck in the tournament too. So you disagree if it weren’t for Jude’s individual brilliance England would have won in the first round?

[@charlesbaskerville1037]

@@hyywe240we beat Panama Sweden Tunisia and Colombia on penalties in 2018 then lost to croatia

[@deco7651]

@@charlesbaskerville1037 Don't bother you genuinely cannot reason with Southgate followers at all, just sit there and think about how warped your perception of the sport would have to be to believe what he is implying.

[@詹姆斯-k2k]

But Southgate kept him on when everyone was calling him for him to be subbed. The goal came from a pre planned throw in routine Southgate signed off on. Southgate is not perfect, but these people absolving him of ANY credit is absurd and denying reality. You’ve lost touch with reality, possibly for all time.

[@kalel503]

Southgate getting compliments for playing disgusting football lol

[@swordfish17]

"disgusting" football doesn't exist... there is no wrong way to play. I think Southgate is out of his depth but at least criticise him validly

[@ВладимирГригорьев-ь8ц]

@@swordfish17English team don’t play football, they only depends on luck and individual performance🤷🏼‍♂️

[@billybatts8283]

How spoiled you have to be to think you've earned the right to win beautifully or it's a failure.

[@davinnicode]

France is also boring to watch but Deschamps has a plan. Southgate however has nothing and purely relies on individual moments and luck. That’s why England haven’t won against the top teams in tournaments.

[@kalel503]

@@billybatts8283 they have struggled against Slovenia Switzerland and Slovakia? If they win like this against the Netherlands or France or Spain that’s a different conversation this team has no business being putrid for the past two calendar years against everybody

[@jambo1349]

Might be the worst ball knowledge I’ve ever seen tbh. Giving Southgate credit for scraping through against teams whose starting elevens are worse than an 11 made out of lads we left at home, is frankly embarrassing. You’ve all had a crusade against Southgate for years and now you’re switching up because you see the words semi final and can’t extrapolate cause and effect. Truth is we’ve had an incredibly lucky draw and the individual brilliance of a few players have carried us, it’s simple. We draw France in the quarters and we’re out just like Belgium. FFS we were 30 seconds and a crazy bicycle kick away from losing to bloody Slovenia.

[@Bclayton126]

That’s football for you mate, we have nothing if we don’t have hope. What’s point watching football if you can’t enjoy your country reaching a semi final

[@mega7070]

If the entire country was calling you shit, would you be able to perform your job well? These are human beings. I'm proud of them for making it through with all the fucking noise from miserable people like you all around them. You don't just automatically start winning games just because you have good squads, especially when you only get a few weeks out of the year to train with them, and that squad is constantly changing. The psychological issue for England is a big thing, we as a country are fucking awful to our team. Yet they still win. That is class. Have some awareness of the situation dude. Put yourself in their shoes. It's not as simple as you make out, and if it is, why the fuck aren't you a football manager yourself?

[@sloppygoo]

@@Bclayton126some people aren’t delusional so what you describe as hope is just annoying to put up with. Standards have to be higher

[@AddhyanY]

What about France then?

[@adambassuni6084]

@@AddhyanY france have had 10 more shot attempts per game than england but have been let down my historically bad finishing, please never compare the 2 as france have actually been controlling games and not conceding more shots against every game

[@stianw.danielsen2943]

He is barely getting resuits against much worse teams. Good luck against Netherland and Spain in the final

[@triaxe-mmb]

I think Spain is gonna lose to France...I don't want them to but Deschamps is a "win by playing bad" manager... for the most boring final England v France...2 teams that just played crap scrappy ball all the way to the big dance... The Dutch haven't been much better to look at either in their games...

[@davehoward22]

Switzerland beat the holders and were 5 minutes away from beating the hosts

[@BDAShadow1]

@@davehoward22 Why are you mentioning Italy as if that wasn't the worst 11 they've put out in history.

[@davehoward22]

@@BDAShadow1 End of the day,they cant win with haters..England lose a game,its "ha ha,england are shit" if they win,the opposition is shit,anything to grab hold of and discredit them.

[@BDAShadow1]

@@davehoward22 I agree people shouldn't hate on the team, I don't want to promote hate for anyone but I don't think Southgate is a good manager and I think any proper manager would have them winning these trophies. They have the best team on paper by a mile if you look at accolades throughout even the bench.

[@placed6187]

Summarise The Club's ball knowledge in one comment: 12:13 - "He's got one goal in this tournament" Buvey - "you're spot on"

[@BDAShadow1]

I cannot believe how big of a deal people are making about getting out of group stage with Denmark, Slovenia, and Serbia, and then beating 45th ranked Slovakia in extra time and 19th ranked Switzerland in penalties... It's only 5 games, none of which have been against a significantly good opponent and they literally have 1 win and 4 draws in regulation time. Before anyone complains, Switzerland are good in their own right of course, but they have never been anywhere close to even competing for the trophy.

[@4Bester]

England were not unlucky against France in Qatar. Southgate fucked it up when England were on top, the same way he did nothing to stop Italy taking control of the Euros final.

[@marcelohendrix6139]

southgate told kane to miss the penalty?

[@GGMatt]

A point I'd like to make. Whenever people hear the term 'manager' these days, the only thing anyone ever really talks about is the tactical side of their management - Why? Yes, the tactics and strategy employed for the team is absolutely important for shaping up games and dictating the general play on the pitch, but realistically the tactics side of it is probably what, 20-30% of the job? No one ever talks about the off field stuff. The training, the mental coaching, the team building, the process of instilling a work ethic into a group of players, the camaraderie, how to temper ego's, making players believe that no matter what the score or how long is left we are still in the game etc etc. Southgate absolutely excels at all of these things, and it is blatantly obvious too whenever you see him with the players and how much they all, to a man, adore him as their manager. So much of modern football is mental, and despite his tactical flaws, Gareth has mastered the art of making sure his team do everything else to get them over the line, and we do it time and time again. Need i remind anyone that Sir Alex, the greatest manager of all time along side Pep, wasn't actually that good of a tactician. He wasn't formulating new formations and tactics to win matches or playing complex patterns of play, he was just an absolute master of man management, and was able to win titles with some absolute shite players time and time again, all because he had perfected the art of getting the best out of everyone and building a TEAM ethos. Southgate is of that same ilk (no i am not saying he is Alex Ferguson lmao), and the whole "getting lucky" thing is no accident. He gets lucky because he does a hell of a lot of things right that we dont see, and it ends up all coming together in the moments we need it to. He isn't the best manager in the world, and he certainly is no tactician - but he's bloody good at being Gareth Southgate, and we will miss him when he's gone.

[@BaconTermiteReal]

stop being delusional...... Gareth is a terrible manager and England has played pretty badly. He has relied on one of the most talented group of players we have ever had + incredibly favourable draws + just pure luck These group players deserve a better manager !! I want a manager who can make us play like Spain or something and just go for it

[@hyywe240]

@GGMatt that's silly Matt. We should go back to our winning ways. Remember before southgate was hired. We had world class managers all the time and constantly won tournaments. It's just the world class players like tripper, lingard, maguire, Henderson. He's so lucky

[@jimjogger306]

Oh no, Delusional.

[@Juicecarton97]

Tactics and game management are the most important factor and way more than 20-30% of the job. Gareth still doesn't know his best 11 or an effective playing style and if we hadn't scored an insane over head kick seconds from time he'd have been massively exposed. Again against Switzerland it takes us conceding to do something in response. That, in game management from him is so poor, you can see almost every game we play at 60 mins that it's not working, the opposition manager has changed something by then and we wait until we concede or about 75 mins into the game to change things. We're all watching the same thing but he somehow doesn't. It's definitely not in his master plan to scrape wins or draws in the dying moments. The other player management aspects of the job are important obviously but how do the players on the bench and in the squad that are underused feel, when other players performing poorly are left in, so there's not too much change from Mr cautious. Can you honestly say you're enjoying watching us play or does winning no matter the dross shown override the feeling of it all.

[@willtallis5275]

@@hyywe240and yet England clearly need Henderson in the team still you clown tripper is in the team still what you on about

[@Bobbywoodhogan]

I can’t get over this, the love in for mediocrity is baffling None of the England teams before Southgate ever had such easy routes to finals

[@khhaos865]

Give it 5/10 years after he’s no longer England manager, nostalgia is going to be super kind to him

[@Bobbywoodhogan]

@@khhaos865 probably so Tbh I don’t give a Fk if he does luck it and gets a knighthood, I just wanna win but I certainly won’t be saying we won because of him cause if we win it it’ll be in spite of him

[@tiffa01]

There is no easy route anymore

[@Bobbywoodhogan]

@@tiffa01 lol when you’re getting nations like Slovakia and Switzerland over teams like France and Germany then that tells you everything

[@ВладимирГригорьев-ь8ц]

@@tiffa01English team can’t play against strong teams, only against teams like Luxembourg🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Mitnavn14]

Rory saying England beat Denmark convincingly in the last euros tournament 😂 England get a penalty from Sterling diving in extra time (with VAR, it ain’t a penal it’s). Kane goes to take it and misses and only scores because of the rebound! Convincing win 😂

[@wrfootball3847]

But most agreed that England were overall the better team, they were much fitter, Denamrk ran out of steam. Watch it again, England were way on top overall

[@eL--RaL]

Let me help you with that - Absolutely NO!!

[@TSOTL-0302]

What makes you 100% sure?

[@oufc90]

Can they? Yes Will they? No one knows

[@shubhamsingh-wq5th]

What makes you so sure?

[@Oof-lp2dr]

Scary that Buvey has a platform when he’s wanting Saka on the left. All this just to hide the quality that shows Foden ghosting.

[@sfb4144]

I mean when Saka is given his best role at England it's more likely he has a few decent games and eventually comes up with a goal after being poor most of the tournament... Agreed tho, you can't move saka from RW, he's nailed on his position there and deserves it

[@Mikazi]

Always with the weaker side of the brackets... Of course you have 3 semi finals, Euros 2020 always playing at home and with the easy side as per usual... Only facing the weaker Germany in decades...You're not facing anyone difficult until the semis every time, i wish my nation had your luck every tournament and didn't have to face many giants until the semis, of course you've gone further than Germany, Portugal, Belgium... They have to fave each other sooner in the tournament and eliminate each other, having games that seem like a final while you avoid them all, and there's still Spain and france on that side of the bracket, but of course you don't talk about that so you can seem better than what you really are... It's not convenient to talk abou that...You did not face any giant... at this point it's more than luck, the people with power want england to win a trophy by force at this point And still can't win it, impressive

[@judehards8607]

Gonna cry?

[@triaxe-mmb]

😂...the powers that be are rigging the system...😂😆😜😂🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ Keep crying... It's the same run of luck on the other side of things that had England run up against the best teams in knockout rounds in prior tournaments (WC and Euros) under other managers...you play the opposition you get and you find a way to play and win. I hate watching this team but they grind out results by playing bad...it is what it is...results are all that matters in the end...no one will remember how well you played if you don't win...Austria and Germany were the best teams I watched this tournament followed by Spain...2 of 3 are out and the third will probably fall to the defense first French...a very similar make up to England...great players put on a tight leash to limit the opposition scoring...defend first at all costs and if you can, score to win...if not beat them on PKs If either team wins it, no one will remember or care how they won it and how crap they truly were...

[@Mikazi]

@@judehards8607 no, my country has way more trophies than yours, you're still not gonna win it mate

[@Mikazi]

@@triaxe-mmb I respect your commentary, at least you bring up good points, at the end of the day there's always luck involved, but it's just crazy to me how england has always avoided the giants for tournaments straight, I have nothing against england I seriously don't, but with the luck that you have been getting you should have won something by now, at the end of the day I just want good football, and good luck for your team

[@judehards8607]

@@Mikazi only as good as ur last “mate”. And ur last is getting sent home in a way weaker tournament in the euros.

[@mrcoolstuff1001]

England was not better than Italy in the last Euros, nor were they better in the final. Get a grip. We’ll probably get lucky and win this tourno but let’s not get carried away with the arrogance …

[@sfb4144]

I don't think that John guy said anything respectable in the whole episode

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Incredible, they managed the herculean task of knocking out Switzerland 😂

[@tiffa01]

You know fk all about football

[@mingyeewong1590]

The football knowledge you have is quite bad. 😆

[@hib1364]

Before we played Switzerland, everyone was acting like they were going to beat us badly and saying how good they were. Now we have beaten them everyone is saying how unimpressive it was to beat them. England have been shite this tournament but there is also so much bias against them from people like you that's unwarranted especially after the quarte final game.

[@tiffa01]

@hib1364 armchair fans mate

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

@@hib1364 Idk who the hell was saying that, it’s Switzerland, not Spain

[@torpedocash7199]

If Sven met teams like Switzerland, Denmark, Slovenia and Ukraine in KO games instead of Brazil and Portugal, it would’ve been a different story. Hodgson could’ve taken this lot of players to the same stages.

[@daniel4002]

0:55 “that was convincing , played well in that game” won it AET 🤣

[@EstherBaddooOfficial]

I think in the semi finals they will lose

[@25557813]

honestly , English being put into this group and route in the knock-out stage, it is very difficult to not suspect the game is being rigged. Imagine the difference in the money being made with England wining the game and it being stopped at group stage. Everytime England seem to make it to the semi final , despite the abysmal performance in every game.

[@malc568]

I can conceivably see a world where England dont score another goal in open play and actually win this tournament on two penalty shootouts. We're now penalty specialists.

[@mega7070]

Taking Saka off the right after his best performance at this tournament is a very whacky thing to suggest 🤣

[@joeallen781]

Love the mental gymnastics going on here... giving flowers to someone who gets semi finals, never lifting trophies, but then let's look forward to a domestic season and some on this panel will be ripping managers apart for getting far into tournaments but never winning anything.

[@kingofthebridge8339]

The only credit I can give Southgate is that the defensive style and setup might actually help agaisnt better teams.

[@overwatch1825]

Where is the confidence coming from 😂 how are they sure they gonna beat the Dutch arguably got the best defender in the euro.. and Romania was better then every team England has played so far

[@613Scottie]

Holland are a better team than any team we've played. This is all uphill

[@davinnicode]

They may be better than Switzerland but not by much. England‘s quality they should beat them. The Dutch still look shaky and their offense line is hit and miss.

[@thecaptaindeadpool5098]

⁠@@davinnicodedifference is we are growing in the tournament. Yes it looked shaky sometimes against Turkey, but we can play better. The Swiss are also not playing to win the euros, we have the mentality to win it.

[@davinnicode]

@@thecaptaindeadpool5098 sure. I‘m all for the Dutch winning it all but I don‘t rate Koeman as a manager at all

[@unclebensrice4702]

Buvey criticizing Saka before Foden is absolutely wild, Foden has been anonymous. Edit: now he's said drop Mainoo who's been flawless what a clown

[@aye3678]

Settling for Southgate is settling for trash. He is going to get exposed on Wednesday.

[@_Nywoe]

Rory - I agree with you about England being unlucky against France in Qatar. Really thought that they were the better side.

[@OUSEYY]

Saying trippier needs to keep playing is an absolutely shocking take. We only look good when he came off

[@JFH3392]

Anyone with eyes can see this England squad is terrible, boring and a disgrace considering the talent on the field and bench. The only reason they are in the current position is luck: luck with your terrible pool, luck with your dogshit refs and VARS ruining every other game, luck with your side of the draw, luck with last minute goals. Get real and stop the nonsense about other teams. "We made it further than Portugal, Germany, Italy" - Wanna bet how you did against them if you were on their side? "The Dutch ended 3rd in their pool" - Oh, you mean the pool with France? Ending just 1 point below England, who had the easiest pool by a countrymile? "Kane is the best player in this tournament" - Mbappé wants a word. Boys, keep the same scapegoat dillusional energy when you lose. If it's no problem for you now, don't blame this terrible mess when you lose.

[@anouck3156]

England fans are so opportunistic. If you get Germany in the quarters you go home, and then the next day everyone calls for Southgate to be fired. But you get Slovakia, who you can only beat thanks to a once in a lifetime wondergoal from Bellingham, than you beat Switzerland on pens and now Southgate is a tactical mastermind? Give me a break.

[@mega7070]

I disagree that the last performance was the worst. They've definitely been improving. Last game they looked their best so far. Definitely not great by any means, but better than the last 4 games. I think we step it up again as we have been doing.

[@BohemianRaichu]

If you think a manager can be lucky 4 tournaments in a row, then you need to reassess your assumptions about that manager.

[@PolygonAlley]

The worst part of England winning the Euros, Southgate getting a Knighthood.

[@4Bester]

I am pretty sure that Southgate will leave after this tournament. Graham Potter will come in and we will actually see this amazing group of players play good football and get to semi finals

[@luistricio4160]

only thing is though is that... yes we are in another semi final but we nver have a top 10 team and have lost every time we have bar 1 or 2.

[@abid4597]

It's not a coincidence that Southgate has made semifinals and a final in an era where many international teams either (majority) lack quality players or arent playing well (these teams have at least won before)

[@smgworld1242]

England are in the semi final ffs. Regardless of what people think of Southgate, he needs to be backed by the fans now.

[@ВладимирГригорьев-ь8ц]

Why? Because he have the best squad in English history?

[@kakashikan2764]

If France can win the Euro, then England can & deserve just as much to win the euro. But if there is any justice, Spain should win as they are the only team playing half decent football.

[@BiggestChungus21]

Oh brother I just know France will drag Spain to mud with them. They are gonna make sure every time they play someone, that team is gonna have the worst performance ever. France are kinda destined to win this with zero open play goals. And have a 0-0 bore draw with England in the finals, I can almost smell the stank from the stink off to end all stink off

[@adambassuni6084]

its legit brain rot how much england fans do 180s, how does a 1 in 1000 bicycle from jude suddenly mean southgates plan works? 999 other times england lose to slovakia and southgate is the worst english manager of the last 40 years 😂

[@gojiplusone]

Harry Kane's average position was behind Mainoo and Rice. That trophy-less coward once again ran away from his responsibility.

[@dominicbrennan2536]

Buvey can’t drop his Arsenal agenda. He was our best player vs Switzerland

[@Bd-lf7qp]

The English arrogance here...(minus Adam)

[@christianochoa1279]

Southgate is a terrible manager and has been bailed out by a moment of brilliance from Bellingham and then Saka. You can have a terrible manager and still win. Portugal did it with Fernando Santos in 2016.

[@Magickyaaron1987]

It's really fucking boring to watch until the pens and give or take 1 shot. With the talent we've got in the side surely we should expect better. It shouldn't be painful to watch. I end up on my phone most of the time or running errands during Southgate games, and fuck watching friendlies entirely

[@jamiebriggs.11]

‘De La Fuente is still a young manager’ geezers 63 😂😂😂

[@jackjohnson156]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Coulsonri]

Kane 2 goals the state of this! Imagine arguing a point and getting it wrong

[@TeaNoSugar87]

I agree with Adam about the story being written. We're heading for Cool Britania 2.0 Just watched Louis Hamilton win his first race in 3 years at Silverstone and do a victory lap with the Union Jack hanging out of his car, Blairite Labour in power again. The aesthetics are lining up

[@redmed10]

Its like a premier league team getting to fa cup final playing lower league teams and being lucky and barely getting a shot on other teams. There wouldn't be any joy in that. Playing well may not matter in a tournament but being absolute rubbish does.

[@mikesingh6099]

I guarantee you Spurs fans would not care if they got an FA regardless of the road to get there trophy. Right now England is the Spurs of international football. I think most England fans think a trophy is a trophy, and there’s plenty of joy in that in my opinion.

[@BDAShadow1]

Imagine what Rory would say about Arsenal fans praising top 4 finishes for the past 20 years. Even that's significantly harder than getting out of a group and winning (IN EXTRA TIME) 2 games against significantly lower ranked opponents...

[@MrSinclairn]

FAF,England are going to do a repeat of Greece from the 2004 Euros and pretend afterwards,they are world-beaters ! 😂😂

[@eightcents213]

France are playing just like us if not worse. But we don't see everyone on Deschamp. 🤷‍♂

[@p.eriickk]

*England fans* Complain about the way they play -> win a couple of games against shit teams-> Complain about the way they played and manager is shit

[@lfc4ever87]

Seen most of you guys criticizing Pochettino because he didn't win anything. Why Is Southgate getting " he finds a way" when England has won nothing with a very talented bunch of players and the performance has not been the best in any of the tournaments.

[@andrewnisbet2325]

To be fair. For a team like England have and to be scraping through against that Swiss team on pens is a bit embarrassing. More embarrassing to think it means anything other than being average in a poor tournament.

[@Back4RoundTwo]

The team is getting us to these parts of the tournaments, Southgate is just along for the ride…

[@mefninja]

Noneasy games in international cup competition but england had gotten insanely lucky under southgate with the draws weve had.

[@bigceazer]

how delusional is rory....harry kane the best footballer at the tournament ?? what is he smoking lol. rory please name one BIG game (final) kane has turned up in? please name 1 big match he has shown up, go ahead i'll wait. this is why England fans have a reputation for being delusional and overrating their players. Adam is the only rational one talking sensibly on that table, not getting carried away and talking a load of nonsense and not getting gassed and don't even get me started with the guy in the middle wearing the cap.

[@timmy5876]

sure it’s impressive with the stages we’ve got to in recent tournaments but u have to factor in who we’ve beat, we beat germany a couple years ago but other than that i don’t think we’ve beaten a single top 10 team in the world

[@stuartswanton1676]

Yes England are in the semis, but they've only won once in 90 minutes, drew 2 in the group stage and needed ET and pens to beat the others on the "easier" side of the draw. The Dutch have looked good in my opinion, and if they play well then I think England could be in trouble.

[@nickmag6142]

Gareth is the 4 year old who bought all the best guns in cod

[@lagofala]

England fans: We have been unlucky for years. Also England fans: Southgate is just lucky. Get rid of him. Maybe don't get rid of your lucky charm. LOL

[@davidham5230]

Before the tournament started, no one predicted England to stink the whole thing out, with the quality in the squad, the level of opposition, the route to the final being on the easier side of draw, If England win the Euros questions should be asked about match fixing, and I'd say the same about France...the same way things looked suspicious when Greece won it years ago. As a football fan Spain deserve to win the tournament for playing wonderful attacking football, and the Dutch have been exciting too, that would be the final I'd like to see from a football perspective, they'd make a good spectacle of it, if England make the final basically puking over the finish line in each match, it's been painful and boring to watch. As much as I want England to win something, I would hate for us to do it like this, it's the one kid nobody likes but it's his ball, u either play to his nonsense rules or he storms off and takes the ball home.. It's desperately clinging on for your life when you're capable of coming out swinging, it doesn't make sense to win the tournament this way,nobody has enjoyed the football Southgate is the Rishi Sunak of football

[@luispelleranonadal2419]

Yes you’ve gone further than other teams. But the path to the semifinals has not been the same. You can’t compare Germany’s tournament with England’s. In the end this is why in Tournament football “The Best” team does not always win. Everybody seems to agree that Spain has been the best team in the entire tournament. Imagine they lose to France on pens, does that take away everything they did. Does that make them worse than either Holland or England who’ll reach the final? Very nuanced and easy arguments boys, but works to get the spirits up.

[@inhok5190]

idk what game buvey was watching but Saka was miles clear the best player on that pitch….

[@anthonee5134]

I could coach England to a semi final, Southgate's tactics are horrible, he's "allowing" saka Bellingham you're talking about world.class players having individual moments to scrape by

[@chrisgapp1521]

When United win games like this would buvey and rory say they are lucky? Course they fucking would

[@zakdutoit5980]

These lads are lost. They don't know how to review this performance because they've derided GSG from the start and now they're realizing that they could win it. Rory is unbearable. All of a sudden claiming, all over social media, that fans should just be happy with the results, despite terrible perf. The flip flopping is quite brilliant. I suppose, contrarily, I imagine evaluating England in this tournement would be challenging, but then have some foresight before going two footed into the manager and team so early.

[@shoesmcgee9341]

very lucky to that you will avoid Germany, Portugal, Spain, France even Belgium until the final France dropping points in the group has made the run a lot smoother for England...even if France did top their group you wouldnt have played them until the semi's

[@HM-mw7cg]

lol at buvey saying it’s not luck. It’s luck because none of England’s goals have been worked moves. No patterns of play, nothing. Just lucky rebounds and balls falling to the right man or a moment of individual brilliance out of nothing

[@nickmag6142]

So when we go up against a proper side that can match up to our players and southgate haven’t got a clue what will they say?

[@ejoviu4911]

This is why I LOOOOOOOATHE ENGLAND. Please Netherlands, dont let these lads luck their way to the finals.

[@anthonyharty1732]

NO CHANCE!!!!! They’ve struggled against bottom of the barrel teams so far. The Netherlands are the first REAL! team they are playing, they’ve had the easiest draw so far with no real challenges. They probably won’t get past the Netherlands. 😡

[@wrfootball3847]

But if they beat Netherlands will everyone say "actually their not a top team" It seems most are a top team until we beat them. In 2021 we beat Croatia (previous WC 2018 finalists) and Germany. Both top teams, look at Germany history. It was a huge pressure game for England given the rivalry. But once we won, "nah Germany doesn't count". "Nor does Croatia" Are teams only top teams until we beat them? I bet if we got to final and beat Spain or France. Same thing. "Yeah but you beat a France team who didn't score from open play, a sluggish French team". It will be something belive me!

[@anthonyharty1732]

@@wrfootball3847England did not win a trophy AGAIN!!!!! 😂🤣😂

[@wrfootball3847]

@anthonyharty1732 no they didn't. Thanks for telling me lol

[@newtonheath8938]

Holland has better manager and players than England's but if Bellingham bagged for Real it was down to Ancelotti, for England it was down to Bellingham facts

[@eesafredericks2122]

Better players??????? That's just simply not true lol

[@IamHazz]

Buvey questioning whether it’s luck and then proceeds to say it’s lucky as fuck

[@t.o9146]

Why are you guys acting like the draw didn't help england get to this point. And even then they are struggling. If you were on the other side of the draw you would have lost at the round of 16. Like in every other competition the draw has helped you

[@henrykearns4041]

We will lose to the Netherlands

[@BurnNotice3210]

Nah England 5 Netherlands 0 That would be such an England to do

[@mefninja]

If this is how we win the euros. Im happy zero complaints. If this is how we lose the euros Im furious. Simple as.

[@詹姆斯-k2k]

Elite pieces of skill are not luck. People need to stop this. If maradonas famous goal is scored in the 95th minute is that now luck?

[@wrfootball3847]

I dont think getting to average of semi finals over 4 tournaments is luck. Maybe once or twice but not four times!

[@LAJZful]

Im not gonna complain as we're going through, but we are lucky with our drawers. We will probably be found out in the final against Spain or France.

[@bigbowss9817]

No they cant. England have shown in multiple tournament that they are incapable of beating first class opposition in knockout stages of tournament under Southgate. Netherlands are 1st class european nation and they are finding form, so England's journey is over and they will not be missed 👋

[@scottfitzgerald3421]

If we have actual wingers then Kane plays but if we continue with the two 10s, then we need tony to play on the last man . If we play by the same rules Southgate has. Playing the 10s, and bringing wingers on in the last of the game , that’s when Kane comes on

[@RivalStudiosSnO]

Saka was Englands best player - the only one willing to take the Swiss on 1v1. Scored a belter from nothing and slotted his pen. Buvey wanting him gone has got to be one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard of on this channel (and there’s a lot of horrible takes on this channel)

[@ThillyThauthageth]

I mean yes obviously...look at Greece. This is why football is the best sport in the world. Anything can happen.

[@Antonio-hb8rd]

If we didn't beat these teams a conversation would have to be had.

[@scottfitzgerald3421]

It is lucky , it’s not like we’ve been peppering the goal , and keepers and last ditch defending that’s been keeping us out.

[@lankywang9543]

Kane has 2 goals not 1. Whilst he's been rather out of form all tournament dropping him is pretty mad. Toney and Watkins have barely done anything for England in their whole career, kane is ten times the player either of them are and despite his form he can still change a game in an instance. Heard people talking as if this is the end of lanes England career and that he's a downhill trajectory. Madness. The dudes just come of the back of a brilliant season being one of the highest scorers in Europe. watch him score in one of the next games and people be parroting the old 'form is temporary, class is permanent' everywhere

[@YTA5690]

Thank you!!! its nice to see someone with a sense of reality, Toney and Watkins only have 4-5 caps and everyone jumps on this bandwagon about dropping Kane. its so annoying.

[@Juicecarton97]

It's not that he's shit and should retire but we loose a man with his lack of speed and pressing. Same with ronaldo for portugal. The reason he scored so many for bayern is lower quality opposition and the was bayern play with pacey wingers. Kane gets to cut back, play the false nine and press very little. Gareth refuses to stretch the game through wingers so swapping kane out would maybe work better in this current set up. Toney has very few caps but has shown instant impact whenever he has played so it's unfair to exclude him from starting because he hasn't been chosen enough. The same was happening with mainoo until Gareth realised the error of his ways.

[@willtallis5275]

How the fuck can they get minutes and caps when he doesnt ever drop players who aren’t performing

[@paulturner9542]

Rory is one of the most toxic and narcissistic people talking football on KZbin. He can berate an issue for weeks on end, then flip the next day and gaslight everyone like nothing has happened.

[@HM-mw7cg]

Adam says we’ve seen England in the past lose games they should have won. Tbh we haven’t. As long as most of us have been alive, 25/40 yrs, England have been shit. They lost games coz they deserved to, regardless of how the players look on paper