Can EVIL be OVERCOME?! SD2 Monthly Tournament on Haroshaje- Steel Division 2

[@CosmicLegion]

17:20 Atkpwr: COMMANDO 20PTS?!?! Eugene: "Yes you are right will be adjusted to 15pts next patch"

[@cheezycrackers8677]

The whole infantry tab is stupidly underpriced

[@atkpwrgaming]

Yeah I am praying the patch comes soon before the game dies to this crap

[@tony-te7gd]

GG, I think I did get lucky for sure, although my armour overall had higher vet and his shermans were mainly of the 90mm armour variant while mine are of the 100mm.

[@jaapaasa]

Well played, dismantling SSB is always tough.

[@colonelkoenig42birhakeim42]

i don't think you were lucky, m10 has better optics that shermans and pen each time them

[@atkpwrgaming]

Congrats beating SSB!

[@colonelkoenig42birhakeim42]

fun game to see ! the armor fights were so well commented i laughed a lot !

[@atkpwrgaming]

I do my best haha thanks for watching

[@malteschaper3782]

What a smackfest! It didn't show the beauty of SD2 but it was entertaining for sure. My biggest gripe with the circle of doom off-map is that it looks very cartoonishly stupid.

[@atkpwrgaming]

Yeah it looks ridiculous when its done

[@grimguy7905]

the pnzer 4 has a much better turret rotation speed, I'm fairly sure that's why they cost more. M10's are also open top, while the pnzer 4 is not.

[@zinox9262]

still m10s are better for their purpose somehow

[@TheWarlord9883]

M10's were hand cranked and Pz 4 had electrical turret traverse. Just that little bit of historical accuracy that I like.

[@dominuslogik484]

@@zinox9262 pretty sure its a bit of a thing where players use them differently. using PZ IV like regular tanks while players use the M10 as a tank hunter and avoid making pushes with them.

[@zinox9262]

@@dominuslogik484 my problem is that you can use m10's for any job really (even infantry support eith it's 50cal and some variants even with indirect fire) while costing 10 points less than the pz4 which is just a mediocre medium tank at best. Also, idk if i'm biased but it feels like the m10 bounces stuff way more often in random engagements than the pz4, even though the statcard implies that they have the same armor. But that's just me 🤷‍♂️

[@dominuslogik484]

@@zinox9262 random chance will always feel weird for people, me personally I never get lucky enough to have an M10 bounce shots that should realistically penetrate it. also being open topped means the M10 can pretty easily get wrecked by HE damage from mortars, infantry support guns and artillery.

[@oros5335]

24:08 there goes the Bofor! :)

[@atkpwrgaming]

Ouch!

[@evilbobthebob]

The way that the offmap ends up creating a circle of densely populated hits along the edge of the circle suggests that the SD2 random sampling of the area is not actually correct and hits that would land "outside" the circle are pushed back to the edge, instead of evenly sampling within the circle.

[@atkpwrgaming]

Agreed it does feel that way

[@aka_Sempai]

Offmap must suppress the units for a prepared attack. Dont completely destroy the 1 km circle. But Eugene wants to sell DLC

[@atkpwrgaming]

Agreed on that one

[@vseznamus8862]

16:30 pioneers dedicated cqc unit of blindee uses HORRIBLY to a line infantry unit of 1st SS casually having commando trait because why not

[@atkpwrgaming]

Yeah they are not on the same level

[@shanemiller667]

nice cast-thankyou

[@atkpwrgaming]

Thank you too!

[@vseznamus8862]

Tank busters should be a lil upgraded with double mg 42s or and an fg42. And definitely a flamethrower, then it will be good enough for 1 English SS

[@atkpwrgaming]

The last thing this div needs is a buff haha

[@redgaarden8101]

Think the m10 should be compared to the TD variant stug. Still a lot better, but at least they cost the same.

[@atkpwrgaming]

I suppose. As you said, still a lot better

[@jimbigmuscles120]

Hearing AtkPwr lose his shit at several points was genuinely hilarious. Become a recent follower through Vulcan, really enjoy your casts.

[@atkpwrgaming]

Thanks a bunch, I try to keep it entertaining!

[@PKHenry]

nice cast are you posting the standings?

[@atkpwrgaming]

Working on it with the website

[@PKHenry]

What's the website? @@atkpwrgaming

[@EstellammaSS]

I still stand by my point that units are way too accurate at long range :p Why make efficient shot a thing when it’s historically accurate but objectively worse.

[@atkpwrgaming]

I do understand there has to be some chance of landing long hits, otherwise why make them fire at that range at all

[@BastiPROTON]

14:30 Main difference seems to be speed

[@atkpwrgaming]

Lot of points and availability for just speed

[@midclash592]

This game just show all of us how broken SSB guy literally lose 1k forces more and still capable fighting in the city, and u need remember that in this 1k squads with lmg, piat and commando trait with 11 men which cost only 20 points. If it was Fsjager i have feeling that without commando they cost 30 points bc ThEy eLiTe tROoPs and other bullshit.

[@atkpwrgaming]

I really hope the new DLC comes soon

[@emmi04]

a win for the whole sd community! Screw SSB

[@atkpwrgaming]

Hahaha

[@gordalla2957]

Eighty eight lines about forty four divisions.

[@atkpwrgaming]

Thanks!

[@dominuslogik484]

another situation where I wish both divisions could lose lol. also, yeah 20 points for commando and a heavy AT weapon at 11 men strong is BS. you have to Pay a 5 point premium just to take a second DP machinegun for the Sov divisions. 25% price hike for a second mediocre machinegun and a squad that gets pinned almost instantly. also the Eesti Mustaad Mantlid are a 15 man squad with 11 rifles and 4 smgs for 20 points with the disheartened trait, how in gods name are they the same price as a commando squad with AT and a Machinegun (even if the bren is not very good at least they have a machinegun)

[@atkpwrgaming]

You and your 7th esti haha

[@OK-GV888OD]

😎😎😎

[@vincentklein4455]

Someday you may just get a replay of me actually playing well. Tonno played a hell of a match, I didn’t do too hot, I will somewhat defend my Sherman use though, there is no other way to deal with M10s in the town and light armor is very difficult to deal with with 1st SSB

[@vincentklein4455]

Also to add RNG was really not in my favor this match

[@colonelkoenig42birhakeim42]

rm cmdo 45 in A ;) piat is the way to deal with light armor, and the p-38-61 fighter too !

[@vincentklein4455]

@@colonelkoenig42birhakeim42 fair enough but seeing as tonno kept his distance I doubt piats would have helped, like I said he played near perfection

[@colonelkoenig42birhakeim42]

@@vincentklein4455 sure he really well played but i think that piat in A with SSB is mandatory and would have helped

[@atkpwrgaming]

Sorry man send me good one! :)

[@Kubbbbek]

RM Shermans are slower than regular ones

[@atkpwrgaming]

Is it that big of a difference?

[@Kubbbbek]

@@atkpwrgamingyou tell me, there is a 10km/h difference between them - you are always speed is vital factor (of course regarding transports)

[@atkpwrgaming]

@@Kubbbbek I’d say for Sherman’s which are already a good speed for a tank I don’t think it’s worth that much availability specifically. Points whatever but you get so much on a card

[@kismaaja226]

USA vs USA division

[@atkpwrgaming]

Well technically a british vs. french, all using american equipment haha

[@cheezycrackers8677]

What a throw though not surprising as this guy is pretty easy to beat in QP. Not only does this guy pick have the shamelessness to pick SSB but actually manages to lose with it which is quite the feat. Frankly all he would have to do to immediately win would be an inf dump opener in the south with Staghounds + commando tank busters and a blob of commando infantry and pick up three flags. The town could be won just by moving the invisible hyper movement speed infantry from building to building into PIAT range to deal with the armor or by calling in the delete offmap. This guy is trying to armor trade with Blindee when all he has to do is just keep buying infantry and dumping on flags, it really is that simple. SSB's infantry is basically invisible to Blindee and can't be rooted out once it's burrowed into heavy cover. He should have just gotten Awesemo to sub in for him this match.

[@atkpwrgaming]

Lets not have awesome play more SSb, nobody wants that haha