Can I Beat Ayrton Senna's Iconic 1988 Monaco GP Pole Lap?

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Tom97

Tom97

Күн бұрын

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@hrithikjho4075
@hrithikjho4075 13 күн бұрын
a shifter is indeed expensive for 1 video but a shifter with manual clutch would be fun and interesting to watch.
@845_Mk6
@845_Mk6 13 күн бұрын
Like what I feel like it’s a lap time thing idk why you wouldn’t have a shifter with the type of set up
@TonyStone3000
@TonyStone3000 12 күн бұрын
​@@845_Mk6 There's an entire world being missed by not having a shifter. Vintage F1 immediately comes to mind, not to mention road cars. Do you only drive formula cars when you sim race?
@845_Mk6
@845_Mk6 11 күн бұрын
@ I do mainly drive open wheel on asseto but I’ve got plenty of mods to dabble into other disciplines I use a thrustmaster wheel and the th8a shifter for the last 6 years it’s been amazing they’ve lasted almost daily use for 6 years
@Manny_Drives
@Manny_Drives 10 күн бұрын
I actually did this with an H-Pattern and Clutch :D
@demonicsquid7217
@demonicsquid7217 7 күн бұрын
Even cars with sequential shifters of this era needed decent heel and toe to get even remotely competitive. Unless you only have one leg, doing it with paddles is not even in the same ball-park of skill.
@Tom0316_
@Tom0316_ 13 күн бұрын
I think maybe with Senna's throttle technique you could have gone even faster, as that prevents the rpm to not lower much and prevents some of that turbo lag
@Otmanos
@Otmanos 13 күн бұрын
true but its still not real life so its harder to implicate it to the game
@MMM-wg2vm
@MMM-wg2vm 13 күн бұрын
Nah, most likely not. The real life conditions and microscopic changing reactions of the car cannot be fully replicated in game. Even if it could, this style is super specific to senna and he could only really make it work with his particular setup preferences and also because he had been using that style since his early karting days, so he knew how to make it work for him. It’s better to drive the way you know rather than completely and radically overhaul it to use an extreme technique.
@paddymurphy2883
@paddymurphy2883 13 күн бұрын
The technique helps with turbo lag but is mainly used to keep the rear of the car loaded through the middle of corners. Ben Collins (ex-stig) talks about it in one of his videos about how it was used all the way back in his f3 days while racing brundle
@jl2k232
@jl2k232 12 күн бұрын
Also pretty difficult to do without a h pattern cos you can’t blip in neutral or with clutch down to rev match. Also have to cycle through all gears individually which keeps revs low.
@thegamingott3236
@thegamingott3236 12 күн бұрын
@@Tom0316_ RPM and turbo lag was probably a reason Senna blipped the throttle, but he did it without a turbo, and what he’s likely doing is finding the cars limits.
@Joel-Formula
@Joel-Formula 13 күн бұрын
here are some - 2000 spa - 2008 brazil - 2008 monza - 1986 adelaide - 2004 monza (juan pablo montoyas time) - 2005 turkey - 2008 singapore
@Tom97
@Tom97 18 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@srubio10
@srubio10 13 күн бұрын
First Lewis Hamilton Pole Lap for Mercedes: China 2013
@ODazai
@ODazai 10 күн бұрын
It's crazy to think how senna did it with a limited time and real risks
@AkaczF1
@AkaczF1 13 күн бұрын
So We here Monaco 1988 Pole Lap LONG AWAITED❤️ If we talk about More Retro Poles -Italy 2008 - 1:37.555 (S.Vettel🇩🇪 , STR3) -Britain 1950 - 1:50.8 (G.Farina🇮🇹 , 158) -Germany 1976 (Last Pole in Nordschleife) - 7:06.5 (J.Hunt🇬🇧 , M23) -Belgium 1995 (Last V12 Pole) - 1:54.392 (G.Berger🇦🇹 , 412 T2)
@antonio8501
@antonio8501 13 күн бұрын
Fernando Alonso’s first pole lap with Ferrari
@liviu543
@liviu543 13 күн бұрын
IIRC using paddle shifters with a manual gearbox car incurs a penalty since the game adds some delay
@sigmablock
@sigmablock 13 күн бұрын
Tom, you should've tried rFactor 2 just for the Senna lap. rFactor 2 has Monaco laser scanned and a paid MP4/4 Mod.
@Anon24052
@Anon24052 13 күн бұрын
The Monaco laser scan is for the current layout which is a fair bit faster than how it was in ‘88. Good for any pole laps from 2016 onwards though
@From33to77
@From33to77 11 күн бұрын
​@@Anon24052 yes you're are right. The piscine chicanes where modified as well as Rascasse corner. Both were much slower in the 80s and 90s
@iankaranja7765
@iankaranja7765 13 күн бұрын
Incredible lap as always. I think a couple of wall taps are quite fine. One thing to note though is that the auto-blip assist definitely has a time penalty. I reckon there is a lot of time to be found esp under braking with manual clutch.
@danielricciardi8121
@danielricciardi8121 13 күн бұрын
É muito gratificante ver que a galera admira o nosso Senna, orgulho de ser brasileiro, parabéns pelo conteúdo, obrigado! 🇧🇷
@DomHosRacing
@DomHosRacing 12 күн бұрын
I attempted this same challenge earlier this year with fully unassisted manual! I beat Prost but could not beat Senna at all!
@nightraid1159
@nightraid1159 13 күн бұрын
Schumacher first pole in Ferrari red
@Tom97
@Tom97 18 сағат бұрын
I like this.
@Alan-cg8gx
@Alan-cg8gx 9 күн бұрын
The official F1 game should have old F1 cars from a random season in it may be as a unlock when you win the championship.
@schnurrfpv4594
@schnurrfpv4594 13 күн бұрын
The senna series is awesome
@vamositalia4600
@vamositalia4600 13 күн бұрын
It's fine Tom, on this track and with that car even if you brushed the wall a couple of times it's not a big deal... that last lap was amazing, well done!. I suggest Malaysia 2017, in order to beat Lewis you have to do a sub 90 seconds lap; I would like to see if you can do it.
@baronblitzred6110
@baronblitzred6110 13 күн бұрын
I've been hoping and waiting for this one!!! Thanks for even attempting it... I know it was a big ask, but thank you 👍👍💯 Cheers
@svenzerx8490
@svenzerx8490 13 күн бұрын
I wonder if you'll start diving a bit into the endurance world, maybe start off with Kobayashi's Lemans quali record
@willyum6397
@willyum6397 13 күн бұрын
rosberg's pole lap at silverstone 1985 would be sick
@omarsonmarz
@omarsonmarz 13 күн бұрын
0:30, are you getting these lap times from the F1 official website or somewhere else?
@srthebox4946
@srthebox4946 13 күн бұрын
Seems like the official f1 website
@omarsonmarz
@omarsonmarz 13 күн бұрын
@ Woah I had no idea F1 had an archive of race results since 1950 😳
@liamdaniels2
@liamdaniels2 12 күн бұрын
Do Felipe Massa first pole for Williams in Austria 2014
@AlexTheBird1
@AlexTheBird1 13 күн бұрын
I don’t know if it would be possible with the weather but I would love to see the Monza 2008 pole lap.
@FernandoAlonsoIsTheGoat14
@FernandoAlonsoIsTheGoat14 13 күн бұрын
You could try to replicate schumacher's last pole lap in a Ferrari❤
@AlexTheG71
@AlexTheG71 10 күн бұрын
Any of the 2010 Renault laps of Robert Kubica could be a really good shout. His lap to get P2 on the grid at Monaco was special, perhaps one for the future?
@tawongamusic
@tawongamusic 13 күн бұрын
Cool video and really cool to hear the iconic engine sound from the Mclaren MP4-4
@ricardoribeiro8535
@ricardoribeiro8535 4 күн бұрын
I think the main difference here is that those cars could not cut any of the chicane after the tunnel... the curb was massive...
@NekoMancer-h9g
@NekoMancer-h9g 13 күн бұрын
i mean even max touched the wall a few times in his Monaco pole. i personally wouldn't hold it over you tom. great video.
@User20398
@User20398 13 күн бұрын
Suggestion for Can you beat the pole lap: Niki Laudas 1975 German GP Pole Lap
@grasshoper4904
@grasshoper4904 13 күн бұрын
try to beat the very first pole lap in f1 ever of nino Farina in silverstone in 1950
@gmoraesalvarez
@gmoraesalvarez 10 күн бұрын
With a shifter, to me at least, I lose almost a second to the paddles. The timing of the clutch-throttle press, braking with the right foot, one hand at the wheel most of the lap. Those things matter a lot.
@anteplibela
@anteplibela 13 күн бұрын
hell yeah another classic pole lap video
@YuhErox
@YuhErox 13 күн бұрын
Massa Interlagos '08? 🙏
@xmudyy1178
@xmudyy1178 12 күн бұрын
Love the camera movement
@ArtyI
@ArtyI 13 күн бұрын
Have you ever done the first F1 pole position lap? Could be fun to go back to where it all began
@daviandreaguiar
@daviandreaguiar 13 күн бұрын
Senna's proud of you tom you can do it
@brendanmccallion2350
@brendanmccallion2350 13 күн бұрын
That thumbnail is 🔥
@giulianomartinusso8053
@giulianomartinusso8053 13 күн бұрын
Ah that’s the lap i was waiting for 🎉
@845_Mk6
@845_Mk6 13 күн бұрын
U can call this a iconic tom97 video
@handsolo1209
@handsolo1209 13 күн бұрын
You hate those F2 cars, so I am not going to suggest any Jim Clark or Jackie Stewart pole laps. How about the 1997 European GP? Can you make it 4 cars with the exact same lap time?
@jeffreypostma6832
@jeffreypostma6832 8 күн бұрын
You can say a lot of bad things about F1 today, but one thing that is much better than this is the field spread. In this example there is a gap of almost 1,5 seconds between the first and second car. in 2024 the slowest qualifyer was only around 1,5 seconds of the first. I know a lot has changed between then and now, like simulators, budget cap etc. But the overall level of F1 is much higher. The slowest driver to qualify was a whopping 6,5 seconds off pole.
@Manny_Drives
@Manny_Drives 10 күн бұрын
I actually did this with an H-Pattern and Clutch :D
@Freddepadd
@Freddepadd 11 күн бұрын
i think your neck fx settings are messing with the angle it looks like your car is driving, it's delaying the veiw and feels disconnected from the car. Nice video, just a thing to change for future hotlapping vidoes to help with not banging the walls as much (;
@f3p
@f3p 13 күн бұрын
This was the most entertaining retro episode lol
@mileslat
@mileslat 13 күн бұрын
Please do nordschlife with the 70s F1 cars. Just see how fast those guys were back then
@hamdanali2036
@hamdanali2036 3 күн бұрын
no way bros using shift paddles instead of H-pattern 💀 that just takes all the skill out of
@MrMaccoy1973
@MrMaccoy1973 11 күн бұрын
Well done !!!
@Scratch-Schram
@Scratch-Schram 13 күн бұрын
YEEEEES, I really love this one. Finaly the one I want.
@Tacoplane91
@Tacoplane91 12 күн бұрын
Tbh for this to be close to irl as possible ( I know it’s dumb to by a H-pattern for 1 vid is dumb) but you’d have to have that, because it makes it quite harder to drive, along with heel and toeing would make this 100x more harder especially if you’d have to learn it
@m.m.6615
@m.m.6615 13 күн бұрын
One of the nicest cars
@Namaxa-iw7hf
@Namaxa-iw7hf 13 күн бұрын
Senna movie make me cry 😢 I very recommmend it
@ZanKostomaj
@ZanKostomaj 10 күн бұрын
Do a full f1 1991 season
@vGalaahh
@vGalaahh 13 күн бұрын
Can you try and beat kimi Raikkonen 2008 Magny Cours pole lap?
@grahontc
@grahontc 13 күн бұрын
Can you do some pole laps from 2010/11? Thanks!
@harishSathiya18
@harishSathiya18 12 күн бұрын
Can you try Nico’s 2013 Monaco 🇲🇨 pole lap
@szofer4580
@szofer4580 13 күн бұрын
Does anyone know maybe how to make the ai in ac use a custom car setup? I tried naming the setup for the car ai_default and it didnt work
@itzshummy101
@itzshummy101 12 күн бұрын
Max Verstappen touched walls when he put it on pole in 2023, who's to say that you can't?
@alexmarina_4
@alexmarina_4 12 күн бұрын
2008 Britain please
@brian7becker
@brian7becker 7 күн бұрын
The mp4/4 have a manual gearbox ... I can see that you dont have a shifter so... try with a H pattern shifter and use the 3 pedals next time, son.
@dudomagyula9261
@dudomagyula9261 13 күн бұрын
do a lewis hamilton farewell pole lap!🥰
@KerryAllen-tp2by
@KerryAllen-tp2by 13 күн бұрын
Are you sure if you can beat Ayrton Senna lap in monaco 🇲🇨 1988
@cenkcevik2050
@cenkcevik2050 13 күн бұрын
Ah yes the Off Season Content❤️
@dudomagyula9261
@dudomagyula9261 13 күн бұрын
Lewis Hamilton first pole with mercedes
@Wilmerx206
@Wilmerx206 13 күн бұрын
Niki Lauda sub 7 minutes at the nordschlife
@FCV-fh3iu
@FCV-fh3iu 12 күн бұрын
where is the H-shifter, that's not really fair is it?
@Rraixx1
@Rraixx1 11 күн бұрын
for me still didnt beat, if senna had the same conditions had 2/3h of practice u would never came close. no hate senna goat
@bukharijabarazman2700
@bukharijabarazman2700 12 күн бұрын
The track is quite inaccurate, compared to real-life back in the day….
@OwenWazza
@OwenWazza 13 күн бұрын
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