Can I defeat MYSELF??

Today we will try and stop the monster we built ourselves! Can the Soviet Union hold on against a Bitt3rSteel Germany?
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[@Bitt3rSteel]

I forgot to link the guide!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6vVYZasraeGntE

[@blaserbane9284]

what guide

[@belucat1991]

@@blaserbane9284 did you watch the video?

[@blaserbane9284]

@@belucat1991 which one

[@omgekeerdenacho2526]

bittersteel real quick question what is the downside of maintenance companies?

[@wizardofloth]

Kinda outdated though and your insistente on not showing division templates is annoying. Anyone can click the focuses in the right order...

[@8-bitstream379]

Bittersteel has indeed descended into insanity

[@OnionIlan]

Beyond insanity even

[@mathiasofnorway7142]

"He's going even further beyond!"

[@superfranky8054]

*ascended. Its not that bad, ask ISP

[@SYMBI05IS]

Normal Person: "I'll try to solve my Problem" Bittersteel: "I'll create my own Disaster Saves so i can Suffer even more"

[@puppetguy8726]

That ship sailed long ago...

[@Chorutowo]

25:30 Turkey declared on you, joined the allies, and called France in. I saw popup, saw you dident react, and knew "Whelp this is gonna be fun"

[@letsplaypetrus4802]

Same, I had to replay the video, because he clicked it so fast I wasn't sure I read right. Turkey War Declaration at 24:56 and Turkey calling in the Allies at 25:08

[@Unsei15]

Ah yes, Turkey. Breaking the game in stupid ways since Battle for the Bosporus for 2 years straight.

[@melfice999]

Huh. I missed that as well. I thought it was the Italian Civil war bug again in action.

[@Chorutowo]

@@Unsei15 Turkey has been breaking everything is stupid ways since the dawn its existance

[@Chorutowo]

@@melfice999 Yeah, I was just paying attention and saw the popups

[@Ominous_Walrus]

Next thing we know, bitt3rsteel is gonna invent time travel to do it for real.

[@Errornamenotfound-re4yp]

No he’s actually going to clone himself the play against himself 😂

[@kimchi2780]

He did it for the Rock

[@gaysexlover6997]

I might just be stupid or something but will time travel make him able to play with himself

[@gaysexlover6997]

How will*

[@Kryssalids]

Wouldn't that be.. a _paradox?_

[@SYMBI05IS]

Bittersteel: "They have been spending alot of their strength trying to hopelessly attac-" *Bittersteel's Unit Get's Encircled* Bittersteel: *"SHIT"*

[@jaredjosephsongheng372]

I was just about to put that lol

[@jaredjosephsongheng372]

He said "Are you sh*tting Me*

[@user-wx1iv1fw3d]

就像是當時的自大的蘇聯將領們

[@carineaerts3735]

@@user-wx1iv1fw3dyou mean Stalin bcz most generals did not survive Stalins purge

[@medivhtheguardian9297]

Bitt3rSteel: places 12 tanks in the province and then pushes with all of them The same Bitt3rSteel: Why don't I have supply? Also Bitt3rSteel: Why can't I push?

[@AmraithNR]

Also Bitt3rSteel: Why can't I push?

[@medivhtheguardian9297]

@@AmraithNR ty

[@jacksaunders8923]

Yall have to give Fuel Drums a try, normally you can push onneeeee more tile than you think you can, doesn't help with lack of supply but certainly does help if you have stored supply but no stored fuel

[@shadowkyun]

@@jacksaunders8923 where do you get fuel drums?

[@jacksaunders8923]

@@shadowkyun They're under special modules, Normally they're outlcassed by other modules (easy maint, sloped armor, etc) late game but mid game they're great!

[@rainmakerroar4014]

Bitt3rSteel when the world is burning but Europe is his: "I see this as an absolute win"

[@Spoudey]

same as stalin

[@kababyenoh]

Bittr: "Gaming."

[@jasonsteigerwald3444]

Bitt3rsteel: I will switch from Mass Assault (which provides up to 20% supply consumption reduction) to superior firepower Also Bitt3rsteel: Why do I have no supply?

[@jaredjosephsongheng372]

20:05 BitterSteel: They have been spending a lot of their strength trying to hopelessly attack Enemy: *Manages to push and encircle his tanks* Also BitterSteel: Are you Sh*tting me

[@robe6858]

Bittersteel: i have limited supply. Also Bittersteel: puts 10 tanks to 1 province

[@noutwf]

Disaster save but it's Bitt3r's mental health 7:20 AHHH THE RELIABILITY AHHH

[@fish7598]

Awesome concept! If you want another challenge, doing the same except you play as Germany until Churchill takes over at which point you switch to the UK could be a really interesting one to go for, with some extra roleplay elements thrown in! I don't think I've ever actually seen a democratic D-day before either in one of your guides, it'd be super interesting to watch!

[@killerzovv]

Your idea seems quite interesting 🤔

[@rance2799]

I think it'd be better if he plays italy for that one so he can more easily take Gibraltar, the Suez and save italian east africa.

[@OtterSpace975]

Watch as Bittersteel cosplays Stalin. With memorable lines such as "I probably don't need to user the Dejanipur line" and "Fallback, oh no my units are getting encircled" just as Stalin probably said.

[@marcusappelberg369]

Stalin was so convinced that Hitler wouldn't attack so he refused to belive his own intelligence aparatus. Then he got depressed for a few days and retreated to his Dacha. No one else wanted to lead the Soviet Union at this time when the Politburo came to bring him back to lead the Nation. How he could think that way is strange given that everything he did in the 30s was to prepare for the war. Even the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was an improvisation as Stalin desperately tried to get Britain amd France to ally with him against Germany.

[@rafaello7079]

@@marcusappelberg369 my dude stalin knew germany was going to attack, he just thinked that will be after defeating britain, also stalin wasnt depressed, as molotov says in his remembers, and yeah he didnt wanted to believe intelligence thats true but you never knew if someone was lying

[@marcusappelberg369]

@@rafaello7079 Yeah, cause he believed Hitler didn't want a two front war. And I guess he had his reasons to not trust his intelligence since the purges had taken place recently and he didn't know who to trust.

[@tonyravioli1982]

@@rafaello7079 The difference is its someone like Stalin being made a fool. He was definitely "Depressed" because an ego maniac like him being made to look like an idiot is basically a death sentence in his own image.

[@papiew1]

Absolutely loved this!! Hope to see more of this style of content! It's unique and super interesting!

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Yay! Thank you!

[@TheManWhoSpins]

based will

[@xXxAngryBird101xXx]

I love how this almost turned into Ragnarock: Soviet Union Edition.

[@whitezombie10]

Yeah Japan just needed to declare war

[@kababyenoh]

I love this. I once did something similar in Three Kingdoms, where I simultaneously built up BOTH northern and southern China, then played against the AI as the more agrarian south.

[@derAlphabet]

So in your descent into madness the next step will be artillery only?

[@Occam601]

That is the most cursed idea ever, I love it

[@EarlSoC]

This man is so good at HoI he's playing in the multiverse.

[@hitomisalazar4073]

Well, I knew it was going rough when "No air" was mentioned. It's probably the one uniting factor I've seen in like 90% of Disaster Games out there. Someone just went like: "Well I'm not going to make more airplanes than my enemy, so I just won't make ANY"... and they get punished for it. A lot.

[@GOGPlays]

This is my favorite HOI4 channel. He is not tiring and boring by too much of sarcasm like sorrow or tommy do. He doesn't rush, play too calculating like m3an( I respect his style of videos though). He just plays and narrates like it should be.

[@Roketsune]

ISP wussed out and mellowed out. I used to like him but he sucks now.

[@IwhowasdatXD960]

Yeah I’m really glad he’s the channel I went to when I needed help learning the game

[@BlackoutGootraxian]

@@Roketsune I can kind of agree. He just does the same type of jokes over and over.

[@rutabega8348]

Tommy is just funny

[@GOGPlays]

@@rutabega8348 His reactions are too much and annoying sometimes.

[@failedbirthcontrol8995]

someone needs to do a mod where you play a country and at the end you can go back in time in a different country and the original one will follow exactly how you played

[@anon9469]

One thing I'd like to know is if Germany kept the smartly-organized divisions or if they proceeded to scrap them for whatever garbled nonsense the AI usually makes.

[@whitezombie10]

If you’re talking about orders and defensive lines the moment you change nation they change them all and change the templates of the future divisions

[@MunchKING]

25:50 I went back and read the message you clicked through at 25:06 and I wondered if I was reading it right, that Turkey called in Free France and the rest of the Allies came along.

[@johnlarkin2998]

When you watch a Bitt3rSteel video and he loses 44 divisions to a counter-encirclement @18:52, makes me feel not so bad

[@AIrfan-cz2kt]

There's one thing I noticed when messing around with the command console is that the AI would usually replace the good division templates you made, decommission them and then make the usual crappy templates you would expect from the AI. I don't know if the same applies to tank, airplane or ship templates. So this challenge might not be that hard imo, but it's pretty cool to see. The extra industrial power, and efficient use of the focus tree from the early game does gave the AI some edge.

[@superminer1993]

This is why I think that air dropped supply is genuinely worthwhile when you are using tanks.

[@Hadar1991]

In my first HOI4 game ever UK went with Operation Unthinkable and it took me until 1963 to capitulate USA and see the end screen. By the end of the game I had 990 divisions of port and fort guards (10 width infantry, later 10 width motorized and by the very end 10 width mechanized, just because I could, but when I switch port and fort guards from infantry to motorized naval invasions stopped being a problem). I made naval invasion onto Alaska with 30 medium amphibious tanks (42 width) and followed it up with 180 division of modern tanks (also 42 width). After Vancouver fell it was just bloodbath, they could not do nothing, I didn't even bother to set up the air. But to be honest I should be dead in 1946-48, Allies had 3 times more troops and 3 times more industry than I while I had 2 times more casualties (in 1946 I was pure infantry) and I lost two armies (48 divisions) in Africa because I did not notice naval invasion in Egipt while trying to push through jungles and savanna. :v

[@Andre.Ferreira.28]

This is a very interesting and unique idea. You could do the same thing with japan/china, UK/germany, etc. I would watch that! Great idea!

[@culannthehound94]

I just did the same recently and had a blast. Also, oof no air run. You’re a mad man!

[@montytiger9700]

I saw someone recommend this in a previous videos and I am so glad you did this.

[@elbeto191291]

I found as the Soviets that spreading tanks across two or three tiles and support attacks with infantry is the way to go when trying for encirclements. Tanks alone cannot push 7 or 8 infantry divisions if you're on red air, even with AA

[@NTVDM]

Attacking the Baltics is actually not that good of an idea, since you're creating a longer frontline and more ports to guard. Besides, you don't get cores anyway so it really isn't worth it if you're just trying to beat Germany.

[@therealclp7488]

I did this same thing except I did a successful Sealion, capped the Allies, prepared for Barbarossa, and tagged SOV only a few months before the invasion started. Was tricky but I won in the end.

[@Miguel-fd7fx]

25:45 yeah that is happening a lot actually it seems. for me it was turkey being as broke as ever, I had to close the game via task manager, reload a save, force a non agression pact with them, and then do something annoying: I disbanded the comintern and took over the allies faction (not hard with the ussr), and then kicked turkey out of it (cause like hell I was going to invade the USA or the UK). that happened in 2 different occasions for me, 1 when I was the russian empire, and the second with the soviets trying to do the not one step back achievment

[@gameknight1866]

I loved watching turkey declare war, and him not noticing 24:56

[@gelon3333]

This is like that one moment in a mobile strategy game when you tell to yourself "i'll do nice this time" then you start pushing 1 country and get declared on by everyone, but the thing is you are so strong by this point you just position tons of troops everywhere and push everyone, then map just becomes cursed

[@Atajew]

3:23 That's what I'd call a Great Purge LOL

[@devanzummallen5677]

I have thought about this myself, if it was even possible to brawl yourself in this game, so props to you for doing it!

[@AgentGWG]

32:25 The UK invading from India without BitterSteel noticing. 😂

[@AndersonSilva-wc2ln]

Now do this with max buffed germany! Or max buffed soviets, that will be insane

[@doc9851]

A proper Soviet guide is something I’d love to see

[@DownrightProudHistory]

@Bitt3rSteel I know you like Superior Firepower so much but Grand Battleplan is so good for the Soviet Union you stop the Germans dead in their tracks and if you do it correctly you can have 2 full army groups of 30 combat with divisions to defend your lines. Only thing is you're going to need to build a lot of Anti-Tank guns and a decent Airforce. I know 30 Combat Width isn't meta but it works beautifully on the AI especially Germany.

[@Saintchronicles]

Really cool concept for the video, do you think it would harder the other way around setting up at Soviet and then playing as Germany? Or is that easier? Another idea would be having play with you just to set up Italy as well so Germany Would have competent an ally.

[@spynix0718]

You had such a good Germany, and they immediately changed your production and added in 15 million commanders for each division.

[@jaredjosephsongheng372]

28:31 Bittersteel: There is no way that the Red Navy would be able to do a Sealion. *4 minutes later* Bittersteel: *Starts researching Landing Craft in preparation for a Sealion* Me:But I thought you said you wouldn't be able to do a Sealion.

[@spiderhouse9809]

Something that i noticed your tank micro needs some work you don't have to have them all in one place if the are 40 width or above the maximum you gonna have in one battle is three so you could station at most 4Divs and keep the rest two or three tiles off the line then move them when you get the breakthrough remember supply penalties are distractive especially for tanks oh and keep an eye for the fuel gauge next to the division name

[@KokenyRichard]

Casually sitting on a tile with 12 tanks attritioning to death💀

[@supermaximglitchy1]

3:38 research air, ah your troops need something to breath

[@Kejmur]

This can work as a whole series of videos. Like a similar scenario, but let's say with the UK, etc., or a variation of it with Japan, but you play as British Raj or something similar. Good idea ;).

[@lordmilchreis1885]

I genuinly think this is what happend in Real life, and thats why the Germans were so strong at the start and why the Soviets... lets say lacked, but then it all turned around as Bittersteel tagged them

[@nitrrogen2628]

Then he tagged to the USA in the 70s

[@yummybearblue5808]

Hey dude! It always brightens my day whenever I see you've uploaded a video. Thank you for all the hard work you do ❤.

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Happy to hear that!

[@unitedfloridamapper7669]

"You're either with us or against us." Bittersteel: Why not both?

[@willdulevitz]

16:53 ahh the classic romanian brap trap

[@alexandercaires5921]

I did something similar years, but after I led Germany to a superpower status that was able to invade the US, then tried to survive as the US. It was a blast losing. You should play as the US in this scenario.

[@spiderhouse9809]

You could just press B button it would make them take the most effective and fast route ie. Railway tiles and move on them works if you just press the railway button on screen above units under the general but you would want to ctrl+b if you don't want them to change course

[@kitonja_2315]

Massive total war there at the end, it was so funny to watch "all vs all, everyone for themself" scenario

[@discription3671]

IDEA(similar to this): you playing but a random timer going from 5-10 minutes varying everytime and when the timer runs out a random country that you are fighting is selected for you to play as( if no war is happening you dont switch, and if you dont want to get a random country you could just do like you did it here, just take control of lets say germany at random times(and switch back and fourth), so you will need to counter your own attacks and stuff like that. (it will work like playing chess with yourself, and you will still want to win, and that will be why you will tread on)

[@wolfranium2199]

I love the concept of this game 😂

[@154Kilroy]

I'm pretty happy about this, I suggested this exact sort of video a few months ago. Idk if you came up with the idea on your own or not - most likely. But it doesn't matter to me, the end result is the same. 😁

[@154Kilroy]

It occurs to me after watching the video a bit I had originally suggested invading a country and getting them made 3/4 capitulated - then switching to the country being invaded. Perhaps that will be the next step?

[@404-ThisUsernameIsAlreadyTaken]

I'd be interested to see how you'd fare against the Expert AI mod with this kind of scenario, from my experience the standard AI is just trash and tends to throw away any advantage you can give it.

[@waffel7664]

I really like this idea, you should do it again with other nations :)

[@tomatorecolector4465]

Did anyone else notice in 13:41 how there was an African leader commanding Italian troops? super interesting

[@tonyravioli1982]

You get it from gaining compliance with Ethiopia. You get Ethiopian generals.

[@TheCelt93]

Turkey declared war at 24:56, and they called in the France at 25:08. You can also see the SU flag in the Italian war list at 25:18, and the lone unit snaking it's way to Crimea at 25:30. Might be fun to try this again by starting off as Japan and sinking some or most of the US fleet in 1941 to simulate Pearl Harbor, then tag over to the US to rebuild. Or, start off as the UK and defeat the Italians in Africa and sink their navy, then tag over and fight off all of those lovely naval invasions :)

[@seanathan2773]

28:14 when Switzerland is done being neutral lol 😆

[@Kaiimei]

Imagine this again, but starting it right after a 1091 war declaration on the Soviet Union. Doing all the build-up, all the work, then right when you declare war on the Soviet Union, you then tag over to them and have to deal with a Germany poised for invasion, whilst fixing the warehouse blaze the AI has created.

[@aspielm759]

The Tank design you showed at the beginning is ok as it is, but the struggle you had later could've been made significantly easier by adding extra fuel to your tanks.

[@nightmarechevalier2529]

This is the definition of "I'm kicking my own ass! Do you mind?!"

[@michaelprivat4696]

Great Video as always Would love to See you do more of These Videos like for example Japan then switching to China or italy/Greece

[@Tom-oj7si]

Yes! Finally! This is gonna be a good one 👍🏻🥳

[@kimchi2780]

24:56 "It was at this moment he knew he F'd up..."

[@munk6576]

"Is it just supply?" *has 12 tank divisions in one tile, all attacking the same tile*

[@FireFly969]

Whenever I start watching your videos, with your voice, I start having desire to sleep, i do not saying you are boring, I almost watch all of your videos, but every time, I start watching I feel desire to sleep

[@lennardlee4483]

Bittersteel schizo moment in 4k.

[@whatwhogaming]

You can't defeat yourself, because once you defeat yourself you technically lost. I honestly found that hilarious.

[@HenrykCzarny]

There is no challenge here. First actually attack soviets and then switch nations. More fun, more of a challenge, more content. It's so simple. And fun.

[@schmoovle7244]

I love doing this, I will crush my enemy in the war, leaving them almost destitute, then take a save, and tag swap to the nearly defeated nation.

[@pablo_escanor1681]

I still wonder with what key you can adjust existing frontlines

[@MaciekKleczar]

This is easy mode :) Valid challenge would be to build a proper germany (600 or at least 500 factories) and tag switch the day you declare war on soviets.

[@EndellionQT]

28:30 "There's no way in hell the Red Navy is going to be able to Sealion." Sealions anyway 😎 Honestly most of your madness you do it to yourself.

[@MCCamels]

The Soviets: You may very well have your non-aggresion pact with us japan, we have other matters to deal with The Soviets engaging in a massive war between the axis and allies. Meanwhile Japan: B I G :D

[@sethyboy0]

31:19 "Simian Bighorn Sheep" from the captions KEK

[@scottrick7321]

I enjoyed this, but I was a bit disappointed that this wasn't that disaster save where you turned Gernany into a two or three state mess. Seeing you beat the world as the Soviets after seeing you conquer Europe as a tiny stretch of France is... not as impressive as it could be.

[@Augustus_Imperator]

This is eaxctly where the line between genius and madness is

[@speedracer1004]

24:56, Calculated disaster by Turkey. Few Seconds later: Now Italy is kind of our Friend now. Uhhh...yeah Mr. Stalin!

[@dreamphoenix000]

So now that Bittersteel has finally taught people how to play hoi4, he Disaster Saves himself.

[@voce5042]

25:31 WooOOOOww Cool roar

[@Anonymous14217]

Mans become so good his only competition is himself

[@caboosehelpsu2840]

I would have liked to see this and the continuation, but with Road to 56'.

[@Not_a_gimp]

Nice video bro

[@jamzgamz7295]

this is amazing

[@Ilikeanime-sr6lc]

Great vid you are always amazing

[@ethangault9424]

Let’s see a Nordic union video! I just formed Nordic union as Finland and it was so fun.

[@melfice999]

TLDR Italian Civil War has been broken since release of the BBA. The Reason why you are at war with Allies is because the Italian civil war is broken. This happens most often when playing Soviets, and you push into Balkans, and hold some land that Italy has claims to. However it can at times happen even outside of this. And because the Italy in civil war becomes a puppet of most often either UK or US, it instantly brings Allies to war with Soviets for no real reason. Another way this can also happen is when you play as Soviets, and cause Italian Civil War to trigger by occupying parts of their land, and your-now-puppet Italy being at war with both Axis and Allies at the same time, thus causing you to be at war with Allies instantly.

[@ESG1]

Thumbnail is FIRE!

[@thegoodwillseventyseven]

Except for Britian being invaded by the Comintern, that end map was pretty much 1984. You were Eurasia, Japan was East Asia, and the Allies were Oceania.

[@TheManWhoSpins]

33:14 "And speaking of pounding..." 😳

[@JDothan]

Shore bombardment icon while fighting in the alps… that’s a new one lol

[@Bitt3rSteel]

Railway gun bombardment icon

[@user-cd4bx6uq1y]

Very interesting but the power balance is just so confusing

[@samirhendri5937]

The way he spells Russian city names is so good i can't stop rewinding

[@bernardradivilovic3549]

"Kom..som..somonomonol"😂😂