Can I DIY replicate a product I found at Expo? Is it even worth the trouble?

[@softroadingthewest]

Certainly a more competent fabricator could do this quicker, but I'm just an average joe with budget equipment and questionable competence. 😆 My investment of 7 hours plus $7 saved me $52...effectively earning me a whopping $7.50 an hour, which is around half of the minimum wage in Oregon. 😄

[@TACTICALNOMAD]

But you did it yourself, and made it to fit your application. THAT is 100% a win, win.

[@chriscarnes9724]

100% a win and if it doesn't work out it's always added experience in fabrication so it's never a loss

[@tortugajoe735]

Did you enjoy making it though? I always enjoy fabrication.

[@mrgetoutside1378]

I tried a lot of DIY to save money years ago. I learned my lesson 😂

[@midnightadventureswa]

Good morning Donald I saw that product at the PNW too. It’s also nice if you just want a quick fire just to get warm without even putting wood on it. The other thing that you might know is before you weld the steel heated up with your propane torch it will take any oil or impurities off the steel before you weld it, and you always can seal your steel with boiled linseed oil kind of seasoning it like a cast-iron pan so it doesn’t rust but all in all nice job and thanks for sharing

[@wayfairing_soul]

Excellent execution and the cutom result for your Snow Peak is awesome. I would buy it for sure vs making it. I already have too many other DIY projects that I can't get to due to lack of time. I have yet to find many camping gadgets that I would rather build than buy. I'd rather spend a Saturday in the woods than in my shop. 😄

[@OverlandAdventureTimes]

But! Yours fits perfectly in your fire pit, and that is pretty cool!

[@softroadingthewest]

Haha, yeah, I wanted to prove my point that DIY isn't always necessarily worth it, but if I was gonna go to the trouble, I wanted to end up with something I could actually use. Now I'm pretty excited to give this a try once the rains come and we can have fires again. 😄

[@BrandonAbernathy]

I actually appreciate you calling out all of the "buht I can do that for 3.45” jerks.

[@metaxaanabeer]

I use the small solo paper cups (medicine cups size) filled with hamster bedding and melted soy wax poured over. I forget what the wax, cups and alder bedding cost but it wasn't much. They burn for at least ten minutes and don't smell or otherwise need special handling. Mostly because it gives me something to do in the dead of winter when I can't find another project and feel the need to do something. Work on top of an old cookie baking sheet, it does get messy and let the liquid wax cool a bit otherwise it melts the wax holding the paper cups together.

[@softroadingthewest]

That's a great idea, I had not heard that one before. 👍

[@jaystewart9947]

Cool concept. Technically, yours is a custom design that fits your needs better. So there’s that. Great job and I expect we’ll see it used one day when you need to use your small fire pit. Thanks for sharing

[@JeremyP-121]

Ooooo redemption. Under rated whisky. Cheers. 🥃

[@softroadingthewest]

Indeed, superb value and a definite go-to in my price range. :-)

[@masonstruckadventure9368]

I wasn't going to spend 1200 bucks on roof rack so I designed one myself, about 12 hours of design time and few hundred dollars later I got a pretty sick rack. The sense of accomplishment and challenge is all worth doing DIY. Cool build Donald. Thanks for sharing

[@jeffmatthews3798]

Cool idea that is nearly a century old. This is how you started old gravity fed fuel oil furnaces/heaters. May not be everyone’s project goal, but the concept is worth understanding. I don’t know any campers who don’t carry isopropyl. You can cut a discarded pop can in half and have a sustainable flame in a pinch.

[@gerryhartung736]

Down to earth, Donald. Doing things the same way many of us would do them. Why pay $59 for a piece of metal punched out of a 4x8 sheet with a 100 ton press by the thousands when we can have the satisfaction of building one ourselves and having the bragging rights. Myself I enjoy your diy projects, trial and error, explaining how and why, telling people haw the project came about when someone at the camp asks, "where in the world did you get/find this?" Aaah, the joy.......gimme a managers elbow!

[@randallharmsen5802]

Look at you go Donald! Nice job creating your own fire starting gizmo.

[@zacht2137]

I think the main problem have with what they are selling is it’s just a simple stamped piece of (I’m guessing) steel. You probably could’ve bought a sheet of mild steel, cut it to size, and bent it in a vice. Obviously I’m over simplifying it but you get the point.

[@softroadingthewest]

It's 16-gauge stainless steel, and a far more complex design than I could ever hope to form out of a sheet that heavy...I wouldn't even know where to begin. The tube was far more simple. Personally I think it's a fair price for the well-engineered design and that quantity of stainless steel. I have seen various brackets & hardware made of lesser amounts of stainless steel that cost more than this does. As I said, not everyone needs this, but it's a useful tool for some, and probably beyond the DIY comfort zone of most people. I mean, theoretically I could DIY, say, a tripod for my camera, but it's worth it to me to buy one that's been engineered and built. 🙂

[@zacht2137]

@@softroadingthewest I completely agree. I also factor my time when making/buying something. I think making something similar wouldn’t really be worth it for me either, especially in stainless. Now would something like a cup be worth it for me? Probably. I think when factoring in the cost of design, manufacturing, and comparing it to similar products in the market, it’s right there with price. I think where it gets hard is comparing it to all other fire started methods, ever devised. Maybe the problem I have is how it’s marketed as a fire starter, maybe it should be marketed as a wet weather fire starter and maintaining method? Idk. All in all when you look at their design, it is pretty complex and a lot of thought was put into it. So it’s easy to see where the cost is.

[@slamboy66]

The nice thing about DIY like in your application is custom. Grind it shiny, get it very hot and oil/grease it up like cast iron to reduce rust. 👍👍👍

[@lockhartanimation]

Great work, Donald. I’m more inclined to purchase this having seen you struggle with the DIY. Well done. Wishing you safe travels this winter. Hoping you show some of those beautiful Pacific Northwest views.

[@pbsalfen]

There must be a lot of people that use tuna cans for this very purpose. Seems like every time I go camping I find a fire pit (rock ring) with tuna cans under the ashes. It's so much harder to pack out an empty can than pack in a full one.

[@mechanicspecial]

I worked at Coyote Steel in the mid-90s. I love going over there and just poking around

[@thomasreilly4156]

Looks like a good option for wetter conditions. I will keep it in mind, thank you.

[@PrimalOutdoors]

This was a interesting take on build vs buy👍

[@zackdemundo]

Good call out. Easy to use and requires a cheap fuel source. In Wisconsin, they sell only a special kind of campfire wood made mostly of water. I wonder if this would work. Of course napalm works well, too. It smells like victory.

[@grizzbuck]

Just more weight, storage, and mess to deal with. I'll stick with cotton balls, vaseline, & a zip lock bag. All multifunctional items. Enjoyed the video though.

[@ThalassTKynn]

It's an interesting idea. It probably works really well! I too have "I'll make my own" -itis, so I'll have to resist the urge to add a project to the list.

[@04JALD]

Yours is still good. It fits in your fire pit and I don't think theirs would had fit. I like how yours fit inside it. Good job

[@yooperdog]

Very informative. One would also have to consider the cost of a welder, grinder and any other tool you used. Cool little project, but I'm sure their product would out live yours. But you did do a nice job Donald.

[@louiskudlak2241]

Great video buddy, welding is a very handy skill to have ❤

[@chriscarnes9724]

I'm partial to cotton balls, rubbing alcohol and Vaseline in a short tin can for inclement weather conditions but this is really cool and I may give it a try now too

[@insaynbcr]

Donald, I am completely in agreement that this product is innovative and thinking outside the box. With that, sure I too can fabricate something similar, and I do have the ability to weld SS. For your small fire pit, you could probably get away with a small 4 or 5 inch SS dog dish from Goodwill for a few bucks and get the same results. If you do decide to continue using this form of fire starter, I would recommend you buy your IPA in the gallon metal jugs from places like ACE, as it will be more cost effective long term. Now, I have taken my entire campfire and made the whole damn thing out of metal. Started with an 18" LP fire pit from Costco, tossed all the stupid crumbly lava rocks and custom made all my fire logs as real looking as possible. Now, it's just a matter of turning on the LP tank, flick the igniter and poof, instant fire. Edward Shin had the opportunity to see it in action in one of his videos and even he couldn't tell my firewood was metal until he lifted out the entire one piece firewood entanglement. 😂😂

[@richardplunk3910]

Thanks for all that, love the DIY 👍hope to meet you one day on the trail 👍🍺stay safe remember keep it on the dirt

[@om617yota7]

Your comments on the fire starting at the beginning gave me a chuckle, completely on point. Have you seen Steve Wallis here on YT? The first video of his that I watched, he said "now we'll bushcraft a fire" as he was striking a road flare. I subscribed immediately. 🙂

[@softroadingthewest]

LOL I'm familiar with him yes 😄

[@Rio97621]

Portable fire pit design improvement would be to include channels or reservoirs in the build.

[@alanmohn-i9v]

Try a steel construction stud. Lowes or home depot

[@johndej]

Looks like a good replica. I wish I'd added being able to weld to my skill set when I was younger. Oh well...

[@sagebrushbob2321]

It was easy to build and it works. Can't ask for more. Now, grind the welds reasonably smooth and spray it with a good coat of VHT engine paint so it won't rust.

[@Valco458]

Good job Donald. To seal up any pinholes in non critical welds, you can just peen the hole with a hammer or hammer & punch to seal it. You can save your creation & with a little more welding turn it into a Christmas tree 🎄 stand 😂. Thank you for sharing your content. Bob

[@mastervoni1285]

👍🏻, My fire starter solution, ready lite BBQ briquettes

[@pala4833]

Hey there Happy Camper. Funny thing, I just bought a bottle of Redemption Rye yesterday. Good stuff. Fun project. Now get back to the hiking content.

[@softroadingthewest]

I feel like there's some kind of joke in there about seeking Redemption, but I drank a little too much of it last night to come up with anything clever this morning. 😂

[@MichaelFirth-e6i]

I think it was worth it for you specifically. Now, you have a device that fits your specific pit and used in any regular pit or fire ring. The company that makes your firepit might be interested in your design.

[@DavidHuffTexas]

Good topic to cover! Honestly, I get a bit tired of the "I could do this myself for _way_ less money" crowd in a lot of the overlanding / RV / vanlife channels. Good for you. If you're that talented, make your own video about it. But not everyone has those skills, and even those that might may want to spend their time doing other stuff (like actually going on trips).

[@OutOfOfficeCamping]

Totally agree, David! Well said. 😊

[@shawnreeves9187]

Will have to try it out. Thank you

[@chuckrf1502]

We have gallons of leftover alcohol based hand sanitizer at work. Even some made by a local moonshine distiller. I’ll bet that stuff is going to work as a fire starter.

[@TMcClintock]

IDK, wouldn't a small metal kitchen bowl filled with alcohol start a fire about the same? Anyway, enjoyed the diy as usual. Thx Donald.

[@bryanstellwagen3071]

Road flares never fail. Skip the small stuff move straight to logs and enjoy.

[@clintqh]

Seems pretty cool. My biggest concern is I'd forget it was in the fire, bury it and drive off. it would be great in a portable pit, but if I use one that was already at camp, eventually Id forget it.

[@softroadingthewest]

That is a good point. I can totally see myself doing that as well. I once drove away and left an entire professional tripod on the side of the road somewhere. 😆 Didn't discover it until much later when it was impossible to go back looking for it. Somebody got a new tripod that weekend. 😂

[@georgecarousos6735]

The unit you built makes for a very handy and nearly instant campfire for times when you don't want to tend to or worry about putting out the fire completely when you turn in for the night. Plus no fear of embers blowing away and starting a fire. I wonder if 91% rubbing alcohol would last longer or burn faster?

[@softroadingthewest]

I'm definitely going to experiment with that. I'm thinking 91% would burn bigger/hotter but for less time? But that's just my guess. I'll fiddle around with it once the rains come and we can build campfires again.

[@gringo3009]

You're get'n to be pretty damn handy!

[@ejcastro9518]

Curious, do you think a small metal catfood dish filled w alcohol would work in the same way?

[@softroadingthewest]

Yes, in fact other commenters have said that is what they do. To me, the advantage offered by this spoked design is the fact that the burning alcohol is arrayed across a wider area under more of the wood. What I don't like about store-bought fire starters or my cotton/vaseline DIY starters is that my kindling gets burned out in the center while the outer tips don't ignite. I like how their design spreads the flame out further under the wood, for a long duration. Additionally, it also appears much more stable and less likely to get tipped as you're piling wood on top than a small bowl. But I'm sure any metal vessel would work.

[@johnlyngdal8601]

A trip to Coyote steel? 👍 I think I'm going to stick with my HF propane torch, as I have other camping gear than runs on propane.

[@bruceyyyyy]

If I had to invest 7 hours this would be a $700 product give or take. Unless I just wanted to do it. In which case yes, it would be free from scrap. I like this idea. But I'll probably just stick with my mapp torch. It's got other uses too. Good idea for a video. Thanks Donald.

[@RatherBeWheeling]

sometimes building something yourself is just fun and makes for good skills practice.

[@softroadingthewest]

For sure...despite some aggravations, I did mostly have fun designing this to my specific use and putting it together. A day of fabrication in the garage is better than a day in front of my computer. 😄

[@tommatheson8566]

I think I would get a small metal bowl. Later use it for your yogurt and granola.

[@softroadingthewest]

To me, the advantage offered by this spoked design is the fact that the burning alcohol is arrayed across a wider area under more of the wood. What I don't like about store-bought fire starters or my cotton/vaseline DIY starters (or in theory a small bowl of alcohol) is that my kindling gets burned out in the center while the outer tips don't ignite. I like how their design spreads the flame out further under the wood, for a long duration. Additionally, it also appears much more stable and less likely to get tipped as you're piling wood on top than a small bowl. But I would definitely struggle to eat yogurt and granola out of that spoked firestarter. 😂

[@gerryhartung736]

And no copyright infringement. 4 arms, not three, welded, not stamped mild steel, not stainless, burns for a longer time and gives you time to creat a hangover.

[@OregonOutdoorsChris]

I thought that was a neat angle of a video. Keeps us honest :-) Then because I have an engineer brain, I still had to ponder how I would go about making it (just for the challenge and because I'm a cheapskate - I have more time than money). I was thinking of approaching it from the angle of stamping a sheet of metal into the shape. It might be easier to find the appropriate thickness. Then use a pipe as one side of the die, and two pieces of either square tubing or other pipe for the other side, and use a shop press to work the sheet. No doubt that would still take way more hours than it's worth, but it's fun to think about.

[@softroadingthewest]

The stamped idea is interesting and it didn't occur to me to try forming sheet metal. But yeah exactly, more hours than it's worth. I'm obviously a huge fan of DIY, but some things can be more complicated than they appear. That said, while I had some aggravating moments in the process, I did _mostly_ have fun making this. 😄

[@pleinairbarnettoutdoors]

$59 😂 I just buy fondue gel for few $, same results without the extra product. Donald, I encourage you to keep trying anything that you chose to craft 🤜🏻🤛🏼 I sew my own useful products for camping

[@RandallBeee]

Would it work to use an empty tuna fish can to hold some alcohol?

[@softroadingthewest]

I'm sure it would. To me, the advantage offered by this spoked design is the fact that the burning alcohol is arrayed across a wider area under more of the wood. What I don't like about store-bought fire starters or my cotton/vaseline DIY starters is that my kindling gets burned out in the center while the outer tips don't ignite. I like how their design spreads the flame out further under the wood, for a long duration. Additionally, it also appears much more stable and less likely to get tipped as you're piling wood on top than a small lightweight tin. But I expect a tuna tin of alcohol would probably work better than my DIY cotton/vaseline starters!

[@cameronb1907]

45 seconds in, I knew which product it was. 😂 🍿🍿🍿

[@cameronb1907]

I went through the same rationale when I talked to him, and decided it wasn’t worth the time to DIY. I encouraged him because I thought it was cool that he came up with a new product and he’s promoting it. It looks really well made and I’d like to try it out sometime. I think this video is a great idea, because my nature is to think DIY, but I often end up buying a finished product.

[@softroadingthewest]

@@cameronb1907 Agreed. I don't understand why people get so angry that someone has designed a product and is trying to make a profit selling it. For centuries this is what led to "innovations" that many of us take for granted today. I thought the price was entirely fair for stainless steel...I've seen small simple brackets for this or that made of stainless steel that cost more. 😏

[@CoastGord]

Old timers would boil metal the blacken it to slow down rusting...also, there are products like JAX - a tool bblackening solution...or cathodic protection...now we're heading into the weeds...just a thought, though. Cheers from Victoria.

[@carlmizell5930]

Buddy, you done great until you broke out the claw hammer 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍

[@AbeFrohman528]

Why does it have to be that shape?, seems like to me it's the containment of the fuel that matters... I use a stainless steel dog bowl... It works...

[@softroadingthewest]

To me, the advantage offered by their design is the fact that the burning alcohol is arrayed across a wider area under more of the wood. What I don't like about store-bought fire starters or my cotton/vaseline DIY starters is that my kindling gets burned out in the center while the outer tips don't ignite...it's not efficient. That's a big part of what appealed to me about their design...I like how it spreads the flame out further under the wood. Additionally, it also appears more stable and less likely to get tipped as you're piling wood on top. But for sure yes any metal vessel could work, as you've found. To be honest it had never crossed my mind to use rubbing alcohol in any capacity. I'm looking forward to seeing how this works once we can have campfires again.

[@AbeFrohman528]

@@softroadingthewest I trimmed the dog bowl down low to about 1.5" deep.. IDK.. it works as the fire spreads on the wood on its own, the alcohol is gone way before the wood is gone.. .. BTW I love your channel... And have a tip for traction in iced road conditions... Save the ash from your fires so you can use it under the tires for self recovery.. the ash provides tons of grip as opposed to sand.. and weighs a lot less...

[@wodgesad]

3 empty mint tins or Vaseline tins would do this and be easier to store

[@KirbyLouis]

to answer your title question and after seeing the product... its not worth the trouble cuz you had to weld when the og product is just bent/molded/stamped in 1 second... the "win" came from you not having to wait a week. to win on this project you have to have the steel in your hand and it takes you less than 1/2 hr to make, total(draw/cut/weld/rework if needed). then itd be worth saving the 50$... this was overall a good bit of tinkering for you

[@stevekunz6573]

Tortilla chips under two bucks starts dozens of fires, five or six will do.

[@krashnpa]

Have you seen the price of chips lately?! Lol😂😅

[@stevekunz6573]

@@krashnpa 😂

[@rickysiebert9618]

I was going to try that. Ended up eating them all.

[@stevekunz6573]

@@rickysiebert9618 they are tasty.

[@jeffreysmith4304]

Good Job & Worked Well But it seemed to Fill up your Fire pit A bit shorter length might have let it sit in the bottom better

[@softroadingthewest]

Yeah, I was trying to strike a balance between getting it low but also retaining a decent volume. My Snow Peak "Medium" is quite small, so unless I cut really short pieces of wood, the firewood tends to sit high at the top anyway. I'll see how it goes this fall, I'll definitely be giving this a try once the rains come and we can have fires again! 🙂

[@dlansburg2673]

Tuna fish can?

[@softroadingthewest]

Would certainly work. But to me, the advantage offered by their design is the fact that the burning alcohol is arrayed across a wider area under more of the wood. What I don't like about store-bought fire starters or my cotton/vaseline DIY starters is that you're just getting a burn in the very center...my kindling gets burned out in the center while the outer tips don't ignite. That's a big part of what appealed to me about their design...I like how it spreads the flame out further under the wood, for a long duration. Additionally, it also appears much more stable and less likely to get tipped as you're piling wood on top than a small lightweight can. BUT the tuna can is still a good idea for essentially no cost...in fact I think a tuna can with some alcohol would work better than my cotton/vaseline starters as it would certainly burn longer. Thanks for watching!

[@cliffmorgan31]

Advantage is it fits your fire holder better than a 3 arm one…

[@nrao8977]

What font/s do you use?

[@feminazislayer]

Torch guy here

[@squatch2461]

🍻

[@scottymac5174]

This is supposed to be overlanding. Not being a contestant on "Alone". Hahaha!

[@TrailriderLC]

Cool product and your DIY version was a reasonable facsimile. I wouldn't ever pay the $59 they were asking. Way too pricey. And so many other easier ways to start a fire for a lot less moolah out there.

[@daneboro6847]

Donald your design is good enough for me ill give you $30 for it😉

[@seymourwrasse3321]

you could use a cookie/candy tin, when it wears out, get another sugar buzz and new tin

[@mkramme]

Who was that handsome rugged outdoorsman who was shaving the kindling with his big knife? He looks familiar...Robert Redford's twin brother?

[@softroadingthewest]

Haha I just hope he doesn't see this comment or I'll never hear the end of it. 😂

[@swidahooverlanding2867]

Wait about 6 months and china will have that product for $15.00. That is the problem with making items here and charging way too much for them. You go out of business as soon as someone re-pops it at a much lower price. Now if they sold it for $20.00, China would not bother trying to undersell a quality U.S built product. Of course that is just a theory... Thanks for the DIY! George.

[@darrylk808]

And is that a house across the paved street through that campsite? Looks like you can receive mail there!😂 Can't you just pour the alcohol right on the wood, or use a small metal bowl? 😁 Seems like a lot of work for what it does.

[@softroadingthewest]

To me, the advantage offered by their design is the fact that the burning alcohol is arrayed across a wider area under more of the wood. What I don't like about store-bought fire starters or my cotton/vaseline DIY starters is that my kindling gets burned out in the center while the outer tips don't ignite...not very efficient. That's a big part of what appealed to me about their design...I like how it spreads the flame out further under the wood, for a long duration. Additionally, it also appears much more stable and less likely to get tipped as you're piling wood on top than a small bowl or tuna tin as some have suggested. Those _would_ work though, even a tuna tin of alcohol would probably work better than my cotton/vaseline starters.

[@shawnreeves9187]

How is that bourbon ?

[@softroadingthewest]

I think it's excellent for the price. I now reach for it instead of Bulleit (and it's often priced a little lower). It's not top shelf caliber by any means, but very smooth in the mouth, and a very balanced taste, not as sweet as some and not as spicy as others.

[@Scott6283]

The ready made one wouldn’t have worked in your fire pit due to the 3 spoke design.

[@GlorifiedG-z9c]

Cool. I get 99% Iso at Fred Meyer

[@softroadingthewest]

I was just using the basic 70%. I wonder if the same 10 oz of higher potency alcohol would burn off hotter & faster than the 70% stuff? Seems interesting to experiment with.

[@thewiredfox2691]

I would say that your DIY was worth it, simply because you designed and built one that specifically fit your raised firepit. The off the shelf variety would actually not work for your specific use case.

[@j.b.708]

am i the only one who just squirts the rubbing alcohol right onto a pile of sticks and lights them on fire?

[@JTBurkard]

My comment was going to be ditch the fancy fire starter and just use the alcohol on the wood and light that. Skip the middle man.

[@j.b.708]

@@JTBurkard ahh good. i was worried i'd been doing it wrong this whole time.

[@scottymac5174]

I usually just throw alcohol on a bag of charcoal briquettes, BBQ on them and then throw some wood on them when I'm done cooking.😄

[@ric03014]

My problem with the product is that I'd leave it under the ashes and forget about it.

[@softroadingthewest]

That is a good point. I can totally see myself doing that as well. I once drove away and left an entire professional tripod on the side of the road somewhere. Didn't discover it until much later when it was impossible to go back looking for it. Somebody got a new tripod that weekend. 😆

[@tommoffa4732]

Paint it with heat paint

[@nomadsurvival4952]

Um a tuna can would do the same thing wouldn't it really people just got to spend money like it burns a hole in their pockets. Personally I would just pour some meth over the wood and light it but thats just me.... but I rather spend the time doing it the fun camping way and start out with kindling and work my way up to firewood bits...

[@softroadingthewest]

To me, the advantage offered by their design is the fact that the burning alcohol is arrayed across a wider area under more of the wood versus burning just in the center as a tuna can would. What I don't like about store-bought fire starters or my cotton/vaseline DIY starters is that my kindling gets burned out in the center while the outer tips don't ignite...it's not as efficient. That's a big part of why I liked their design...I appreciate how it spreads the flame out further under the wood, for a long duration. Additionally, it also appears much more stable and less likely to get tipped as you're piling wood on top than a small lightweight can. But a tuna can would certainly work. And yes, I agree it's satisfying to build a fire the old-fashioned way. But not everyone does, so this is potential solution for those people. For me personally, rolling into camp on a wet evening, I need to be filming and not fighting dampness trying to get a fire going, so a tool that will make sure my fire gets going while I tend to other tasks is definitely appealing. 🙂

[@TACTICALNOMAD]

@softroadingthewest, Donald, EXCELLENT JOB! Nicely executed for your little fire pit. BE CAREFUL SHOWING DRINKING ALCOHOL IN YOUR VIDEOS. YT has a policy against showing alcohol and has deleted other channels for it. I like the concept, but for $60 it is well worth DIYing it. These companies way over-price items tagged "Overlanding," and most guys have more $$ than common sense and will pay the exorbitant price.

[@inqufox1750]

how to drink is a show all about drinking alcohol But ANYWAY, this man spent 7 hours building this, if i were to do that it'd be worth 150$ at my current jobs hourly rate, not including parts costs so almost $200 it would blow my saturday and i would spend more buying a decent pizza anyway... the product he "copied" isnt that expensive...and will last you a life time with no upkeep... his will rust require constant cleaning to keep it safe, its way bigger and bulkier. What you and a lot of "I can do that myself" dont understand is the cost of your own time...Like if i was paid a wage i could buy a house truck and do all the things these over lander guys do suddenly the cost of labor goes to 4 5 600$...suddenly $60 aint so bad now is it...

[@TACTICALNOMAD]

@@inqufox1750, as a Carpenter and Fabricator, I understand the cost of "my own time." When I'm building or fabricating something for myself, IDGAF about the whole "time is $$" BS. Life is far too short to always be chasing $$. Also, steel can be seasoned with oil or tallow or animal fat, so it won't rust. As for drinking, it's possible that the channel you mention is not monetized or YT has de-monitized them. I know channels that have been deleted for showing drinking beer in their videos. One is my cousin's channel where he was drinking while fishing in his lake on his property. And he wasn't directly showing the beer can, but it was in frame. YT sent him a notification that they were deleting his account because he violated their ToS by "promoting" drinking, which is prohibited. Another I followed was deleted for having a Black Gold Malt Whiskey bottle on a shelf in the background of his Livestream. Donald showed that he purchased the steel for less than $7.00. I have round stock that I could make what he did in about 3 hours. DIYing it gives self-satisfaction for a job well done, and not overly-paying someone for that which I can do myself. Call me cheap, or whatever, but these "Overlanding" gear companies RIP PEOPLE OFF every day. It's ridiculous!

[@inqufox1750]

@@TACTICALNOMAD yeah clearly you dont care how much time you waste jesus look at that response DAMN i aint readin that

[@TACTICALNOMAD]

@@inqufox1750, how is being productive for oneself "wasting" time?

[@gobear83]

Nay sayers need not apply …like what ya built..you always surprise

[@JCreole]

😡 …Just go old school and get a match and some lighter fluid.

[@seymourwrasse3321]

I love some of the DIY'ers on YT, they will work 2 days, scrounging the materials, 2 days fabricating, use $30 worth of electricity, to save $50

[@OutOfOfficeCamping]

Thank you for sharing new products! We have a alcohol candle which we enjoy. Some time back, you shared the Tacticool Fire Pit Kit. I bought one because of your video and love it. Of course, I did a YT short and got someone who said you can build it cheaper (something like that, just a bit more rude). Little did he know I did buy all the same parts after getting their kit. The parts cost more. So he clearly he was an expert! 😂 I really enjoy seeing innovative products never seen before. Clearly, this is one of them. Thank you for sharing! 🛻+⛺️=🙂! Mark (& Teresa) Hampstead Maryland • Purpose Built Adventure Rig © • Ford Ranger FX4 - GFC Camper V2 # 1919 • Kia Soulverlander • Nissan Xterra Off-Road •