Can I Go 50 km in 1 hour with THIS?

#50kmChallenge
Can I ride 50 km within one hour with this Milan SL MK7 provided by www.velomobileworld.com ?
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Chapters:
0:00 50 km Challenge
1:01 This is slowing me down
2:33 First test ride of Milan SL MK7
4:03 Setup
5:01 Clicking sound from the velomobile
5:49 Back to the 50 km challenge
6:50 I didn't have to make a pee stop
7:32 About the Milan SL
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[@sportyknow1931]

Your editing skills have improved vastly. I can see a visible difference. The effort you put into this video made it brilliant. I don't know which is the fastest velomobile, Milan or Snoek but the manholes in these "fast velomobiles" look a little bit small for a 110kg male lol.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

I don't know either which one is the fastest. But I have to say that the manhole of Milan is actually huge compared to some other models.

[@kylemills8632]

Why is it that a Finnish Velonaut makes the best content on the internet? Saukki you are king!

[@sjw811]

Awesome video bro, Very professional. Jan picked the right guy to show the world what the Milan can do!

[@OUTFXD]

Nobody expects the Saukki-inquisition! Our chief weapon is Surprise, Surprise and fear!

[@buddy.spencer]

Very good performance, and very cool new edit way! I loved this video

[@sempi8159]

Great editing!

[@dandeangeli9860]

Hey Sauki I really enjoyed this video. Honestly I’m not that interested in Velo Mobile‘s per se but in clever ways to percent personal experience on KZbin. I thought it was really clever the way you played with the timeline and borrowed some old Timey recollection filters from TV sitcom‘s. You’re the man!

[@malcolmpercy4852]

Great video

[@888jucu]

Nice one 👍

[@Taoweiji]

Outstanding velo-video as always. My guess would be 1 HR 15 MIN for an average speed of 40kph. I'm basing that on the video you did of the speed camera in your town with the Quest.

[@cookingandlive]

Hi Sauuki, that was very interesting. The sound reminded me of cleats moving or a loose crank bolt, as it was approx. every other crank turn (had that before on my lightly ridden mtb 😉) cheers

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

I have to check the crank bolts. Thanks for the tip :)

[@robertstephan4356]

With a little practice, I can manage a 40 average over the villages. With the Milan GT, as someone who has been rolling his own cigarettes for 40 years. However, I don't remember the tarmac in Finland, my last trip to that beautiful country was in 1993 for the 2CV World Meeting in Nurmes. But there are only bends there when there is a lake in the way, aren't there?

[@matteodiluce9387]

At the HPV-Worldchampionships in the Netherlands last weekend two Milan SLs went above 54 kph for three hours, though, both using around 175 to 185 Watts on average (one being a little lighter than the other). The closed circuit in Sloten had a few proper turns and a hill every 2.5 kilometres, so no constant power, either. So around 180 Watts for that average speeds is quite low, I guess.

[@kzh2559]

Nice video I like it 👍 😀 👌

[@tomandalbert]

You're a hoot! LOL

[@dejayrezme8617]

1 hour and 15 min! (40km/h?) EDIT: Ah so close, during the half time I thought I was spot on haha. 45kmh is pretty impressive speed. Really nice video, thanks!

[@Taoweiji]

Follow up comment; I think this is your best video yet. The editing is professional, the drama is riveting and the humour is on point as always. Suggestions for follow up videos: do the same course with QV and Alpha 7. Also, how to change out the cranks and adjust the position of the bottom bracket and seat. That should keep you busy, and us lazy viewers entertained. Unless you're doing 'not-training' some more. Was that "The Force Awakens" or a Star Wars console game? Live long and may the Force be with you and Voyager 🖖

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

It was actually a clip from the Mandalorian.

[@Taoweiji]

@@TheVelomobileChannel This is the Way.

[@johnbarron4265]

I guess Saukki will travel 50 km in 55 minutes. The Milan SL is supposed to be class-leading in speed and efficiency for production velomobiles. I thought I read somewhere that the SL only requires 135 watts to maintain 50 km/h, and I'm quite sure Saukki's functional threshold power output is higher than that. However, cold air is dense, so it might be a close call on breaking the hour mark.

[@matteodiluce9387]

In public roads with traffic, uphills and bad roads you might need much more power. A Milan SL will only need that little power in record trim when going on a smooth flat road at constant speed. At the HPV-Worldchampionships in the Netherlands last weekend two Milan SLs went above 54 kph for three hours, though, both using around 175 to 185 Watts on average (one being a little lighter than the other). The closed circuit in Sloten had a few proper turns and a hill every 2.5 kilometres, so no constant power, either. So around 180 Watts for that average speeds is quite low, I guess.

[@Heavywall70]

That velo is significantly louder inside than your qv or the quest

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Actually I feel it's less noisy than QV. The tyre noise might be louder, because I have narrow high pressure racing tyres on Milan, but I guess the QV rear end makes more noise.

[@nicksutton2964]

I love the time-shifting in the video as well as your entertaining delivery. (I noticed a sound effect that might be the same as used by Veritasium). Anyway, I would suggest removing the cameras and doing the test again, to see how much faster you can go. maybe 3km/h?

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Yes, I’m probably going to do that, but I also want to wait for warmer weather.

[@zazugee]

yes, it will make a noticeable difference, with velomobile the cdA is almost the same as that of a palm of hand, so a camera will have a big effect on the cdA

[@slavyan8171]

Очень мощно! Very strong...Saaюкки а у тебя есть страва? Saaikki u have strava?

[@veryveryintense]

I think I remember from strava you didn't quite make it, plus the thumbnail is a bit of a giveaway. Cant remember the actual strava time so I'm gonna say 70 minutes before I watch the rest of the video edit: really good video, you have come a long way over the years and velomobileworld was right to give you this Milan because I now want one.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Very good guess 😄 And thanks for the feedback 👍

[@birdingsualk9865]

@@TheVelomobileChannel Could be the bottom bracket also

[@renhoek4856]

Nice Challenge, maybe I try that with my milan gt too. the click noise might be the end off the cable off the hood swinging inside the milan and hitting the shell .... good luck ;)

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

It actually sounds just like that, so it was one of the first things I checked. But unfortunately it is something else.

[@pearlandGUITARIST]

At 2 minutes into the video I'm guessing 1hr 20mins to go 50 km. Video over. 1hr 6min. I was way off. Good job!

[@chrisloya6988]

Hey Saukki I'm a fan!..Greetings from the 🇺🇸! I always thought the Milan was the fastest, in which I like. I want something fast! I just don't like the look of the Milan. What other Velomobiles measure up to the Milan from fastest to fast enough. Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

[@olafberend8837]

Even 45km/h is pretty high for an every day commuting "couch potato". Cheers! And arround 200W seems to be not too high for that speed (this is my const. power for 45...50 in the eWAW 45kg, low wind speeds). Thanx for testing and presenting. Sponsoring seems to be hard work!

[@kirkjones9639]

Quick answer - no. I've heard that clicking noise before in a velo. I sort of remember that it was one of the crank arms brushing a screw head or something like that. Old timers disease is kicking in, so memory fails.

[@iDarkfigure]

2. Things 1. Cooler Weather = Cooler Road Surface Temperatures= Increased Rolling Resistance= Longer Travel Times/Lower Top Speed. 2. Rather than trying to meet a distance goal in 1 hour... I suggest you test: How Far You Can Travel in an Hour. I have done this on several occasions because it allows me to focus on Total Distance and not a set travel point. I also have an Auto Pause Feature on My Garmin which keeps the actual movement more accurate due to lengthy traffic lights and other annoyances along the way that may cause you to stop.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Also cooler weather means thicker air = more drag.

[@iDarkfigure]

@@TheVelomobileChannel Yes, Air Density increases with Cooler Weather also known as High Pressure System. Altitude also affects Air Density... They say the air is thinner when You're in the Mountains... But I found out first hand it's the Oxygen they're referring to.

[@Brian-bp5pe]

Saukki, I didn't think you would be able to do the 50K in an hour, but you came pretty close. My original guess was that you would come in somewhere between 1:10 and 1:15 on the first attempt. If you tried this a few times over the next week, or two, you could probably get your time down below 60 minutes. I have noticed that even here, there isn't a lot of uniformity in the size of speed bumps. It was probably the end of the day when they made that last one (the one you scraped the bottom on) and the guys had some extra asphalt they had to get rid of before they could go home.

[@Brian-bp5pe]

@Phoenix 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE You and "Lori" are hilarious! No fear, here. I detect a fondness for Python - just being Inquisitive.

[@robertmcknight170]

I'll guess one hour and 5 minutes to go 50 km

[@adamt195]

I know its not quite the same, but maybe one day we'll see regulations that allow for velomobiles to have electric assist up to 50 or 60kph and some proper long distance velomobile highways.

[@adamt195]

@Robert James I guess. In my state in the US mopeds are considered the "49cc" scooters. But there's no wording on electric models. You do not need insurance or regestration, but you do need a legal motorcycle helmet. And they are limited to 30mph. And for some reason the drivetrain must be automatic to count as a moped. A velomobile with a manually controlled shifting drivetrain would be illegal. Would be nice to have the regulation allow for human power and a shifting drivetrain, maybe in turn for not requiring a motorcycle helmet. Perhaps a "moped helmet" or "high speed bicycle helmet" that is not as bulky as a motorcycle helmet, but stronger than a bicycle helmet.

[@adamt195]

@Pieter Jan Zijlstra Average people

[@adamt195]

@Pieter Jan Zijlstra averaging 50kph with an easy effort would be nice for commuting and general city errands. I think for most people that would mean an e-motor is needed given the weight of a velo wit hills.

[@LeesChannel]

Is there any way to mount the camera inside of the hood so the aerodynamics are not affected? If not, maybe you could redo the test with someone driving behind you with a gopro mounted to their car (to record you) so you can see how much the gopros were affecting your speed?

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Hmm… mounting camera inside the hood might obscure the view outside 🤔 But I would definietly like to try this again sometime, maybe with better and warmer weather.

[@galanonim3122]

Where does weather make a difference in speed? Why is riding in Autumn less efficient than it is in summer?

[@haraldhannelius]

Downhill. Ostrobotnia? Oh please.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

🤣

[@JohnR31415]

But apart from that, what have Romans ever done for us.

[@toonverbruggen7351]

I think the Snoek is probably a little faster.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

You are probably right. It’s smaller so it probably has smaller frontal area and less drag. I would really like to test ride a Snoek. Hope I fit in 😅

[@toonverbruggen7351]

@@TheVelomobileChannel I would love to do a test ride too (any velomobile, tbh). It's VERY small indeed, looking at other videos.

[@matteodiluce9387]

It is faster, but much smaller. People above 1,78 m will hardly fit in.

[@user-xt6en9xt8x]

Почему "bottom bracket", когда "front bracket" )))

[@tri-seeker2753]

Saukki about offroad and tile hunting: If you want me to do full video about this, just let me know. Me: Well, I'm letting you know, that I'd like to see your rides OFF the roads... take your Max into the wild! Saukki: Here, enjoy this road challenge with Milan, some roadtest flashbacks are also included. Anyway, pretty decent result. Maybe not so much at velomobile competition, but 50km within an hour just by HPV is still pretty nice!

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

I still might do the tile hunting video. It's just that usually my recumbent stuff doesn't do very well on youtube compared to velomobile stuff. And now that I have this brand new Milan, all my other bikes are just collecting dust in the garage 😄

[@tri-seeker2753]

@@TheVelomobileChannel Is Milan better then Quattro? (do compare vid!) If I should choose, I'd take quad anytime before trike...

[@100toeface]

I know this isn't the right place to post this, but what is the recommendation for what to do if my alpha 7 has sounds as if the chain is rubbing somewhere and making it harder to pedal? It seems impossible to figure out what to do, especially given my limited knowledge and none of the bicycle shops around me know anything about recumbents. How do you know how to do all of the stuff you mention in this video, checking everything and stuff like that? Is there some basic maintenance book or guide or something? Honestly I don't have a clue about how to check or do anything. All of my bicycles/trike up until now have required almost no effort on my part.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Check that your chain runs correctly on all idlers. I think A7 should have two idlers (or guide wheels) for the chain. One in front of the seat and another one under the seat. Also check the idlers are mounted firmly. Velomobileworld.com has some technical documentation about A7 at their community page. Also check out Velomobileworld’s youtube channel, Jan is making some great technical tutorials for A7 & Milan.

[@vaterchenfrost7481]

A little bit delayed, but still, I would like to reply on your statemnet regarding reaching 50kmh under other conditions. Well, if I assume, that the major part of your power is used up to overcome the aerodynamical drag, than to acheave 10% increase in spead you will need somwhere around 30% more power output. I'm not sure, that you have it in you. so if you are still aiming for this goal, you'll need an entirely different quality of velomobile, that will be less suitible for public roads than quadrovelo already is.

[@familles4886]

Hi Saukki, did you finally find out what was the clicking noise ? I feel like I have the same problem with the second hand milan sl mk1 that I just bought

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

It’s the upper seat support. I don’t know if mk1 has similar seat support. But at least on this mk7 I think it’s the foam pieces supporting the seat which is making the noise. Those pieces which you add or remove to adjust the seat angle.

[@familles4886]

@@TheVelomobileChannel I'll look into that ! Thanks a lot for the reply :)

[@VeloQuest]

sometimes a button on my clothing is hitting the velomobile and wil give me that noice you heard.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Yeah, I considered that as well. But I still feel it's coming from the velo itself.

[@jensenhealey907efi]

How much does the Milan SL Mk7 weight?

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

I guess it’s around 25 kg.

[@EdouardTavinor]

Could you try it in the Quattrovelo? my bet would be about 1 hour 20.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Yeah, that would be interesting comparison.

[@insighteins1317]

Did you find the source of the CLICK NOISE?

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

I’m pretty sure it’s the foam pieces supporting the seat which is making the noise.

[@pheonixdragon2261]

I think 1.5 to 2 hours for the 50km.

[@gadmantv1315]

I have made 32km in hour on cervelo r 2

[@MM-ci2cv]

70-85 mins ?

[@vileherrane7607]

Sellasta rallienglantia että terve😂

[@stevezodiac491]

I have done 44.1 km / hr average speed in a 40 km time trial on a normal TT bike 22 years ago on the flat. I bet i could do 50 km / hr in the velomobile at 62 years old with an ftp of 266 now.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

With that ftp in perfect conditions you could ride 60 km in one hour on a fast velomobile like a Milan.

[@stevezodiac491]

@@TheVelomobileChannel I would love to test one, maybe one day ?

[@martinarnsten4203]

For recumbents my experience is the power I can produce is something like 10% lower than on an ordinary roadbike. I think it’s because that riding position I’m using use more of the front thigh muscles and less of the back thigh and glutes compared to the upright bike.

[@jolyonstone4942]

@@martinarnsten4203 you also have to remember that on a fast TT course there is a quantity of advantage gained by the blow and suck of the passing traffic which is something unlikely to be quite as useful to a vélomobile. A TT bike has a slight aerodynamic advantage over a normal roadbike. A real comparison would require a levelling of the road conditions and a quantity of training so that the power output was more equal between "upwrong" and vélomobile. I am not sure using a TT performance for a straight comparison is really valid.

[@suupaltti]

1h 18min

[@thomasinderka3879]

1:25

[@Lazywatchsmith]

Täytyy se sen verran luottoa olla mieheen, että pystyy se.

[@doubleV4]

Excuses are slowing you down :D mä olen alkanut käyttämään sua mun ylämäkien muusana, ärsyttää suunnattomasti kun siellä Pohjanmaalla ei ole mäkiä. Kiroan nojakin päällä ja sotken ylämäkiä..

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Mutta me tasamaalla asuvat löydetään mäkiä sieltäkin, missä muut näkevät vaan tasamaata :D

[@lightarcaninefan4409]

i think avg speed 32kmh and 50km will hgo in 1h 13min

[@paulschulman8131]

I’m gonna say no

[@richardtydryszewski8919]

If its flat id say 25mph. Id say u can make it 40kph

[@jikilshajitips]

2view 😀