Can Israel Be a Democracy AND the Jewish State? | Unpacked

[@theoriginal4ever7]

This is a really interesting and honest look at Israeli democracy.

[@mahmoudel-obeid3541]

Not when it ignores the occupation/annexation.

[@willbrink]

Learned a lot from this vid. Tribalism is alive and well in all humanity unfortunately. It works, such as it is, in Israel, sort of...

[@poguelet]

Can't believe Israel is imperfect. Actually I can, Israelis are humans. Compare Israel to its neighbors it is a successful Democracy. Actually as dysfunctional as it is Israel is one of the world's most successful countries in the world! As a hispanic liberal I support the state of Israel and its dynamic people!

[@almdrs]

It's not a democracy. It's a ethnocracy. Stop the bs. In true democracies anyone can be elected as president or prime minister, independently of race or religion. True democracies: US, Brazil, India, European countries etc.

[@mbassan]

D"s lo bendiga. Saludos desde Israel.

[@JohnJE123]

I hope you get to visit Israel yourself someday. It IS a crazy and amazing place. I spent a year living and working there in 1992-93, and although I lot of my energy was spent studying Hebrew (and Arabic) and trying to maintain my (bit of) Russian, my Spanish definitely did not suffer. ;=)

[@vaughnreedjr6592]

Democracy is fake don't mean nothing.

[@vaughnreedjr6592]

Israeli most racist country towards African people.

[@MrJREllman]

This is the stupidest question in contemporary politics. As if other countries that claim to be democratic are 'perfect democracies'. The UK doesn't have a written constitution either. France narrows its vote to two candidates and then gives almost unlimited power to a kind of elected dictator for 4 years. The USA is controlled by two parties that are so well funded no other can reach the populace. Every country in the EU has compromised its democratic sovereignty. Japan had 8 PMs in 4 years a decade ago. Only Switzerland can really claim to be more democratic than Israel. And Israel has a far livelier, more argumentative democracy than Switzerland. And argumentation is the second main check and balance for a democracy. The main check and balance of a democracy is, of course, the demos. And the constant democratic protests in Israel show that it is far healthier than most. The question of Israel's democracy has become prominent because people who pretend to be left wing (their not really left wing), pretend to hate Israel (they don't really hate Israel) and pretend that it's not a democracy (it is really a democracy). This is because left wing politics is a fantasy far more than traditional religion and it needs fantasies like the question of Israel's democracy to sustain it. For example, democratising the judiciary, as Netanyahu wants to do, is a way to increase democracy and its checks and balances. But the left in Israel pretends this is anti-democratic because doing so will reduce their power over the country. That power is non-democratic but they pretend it is democratic because they are left-wing fantasists.

[@rakefetgal8383]

בול בפוני!

[@nanfad]

None of those countries you mentioned applies military law to a population they control while civil law to a different set of people living in the same territory. The correct term would be ethnocracy. People of a certain ethnic group have more rights and responsibilities than others within the state.

[@MrJREllman]

@@nanfad You're just pretending to be stupid. None of those countries I mentioned has been attacked, constantly, by Muslims with the intention of annihilating it since the day it was formed it just because they hate Jews. And ALL Israeli citizens have an equal vote regardless of ethnicity. So it's not an ethnocracy. You're probably one of those "people who pretend to be left wing (their not really left wing), pretend to hate Israel (they don't really hate Israel) and pretend that it's not a democracy (it is really a democracy)" Whatever you are, you are free to continue with you're dishonest fantasy pretending that Israel is an ethnocracy, even though you have now been shown that this is completely false by that fact that all its citizens have a vote and that there are Arab and even Islamist parties. Haters are going to hate regardless of reason and decency.

[@Nitzpitz]

@@nanfadnot the same territory. It is legally not the same. This is exactly why the laws differ

[@abayomiolayinka6597]

​@@nanfadObviously you don't know these are different territories The Palestinians governs themselves with their own laws, this video is about Israeli citizens Jews, Arabs, Druze, Christians, Muslims, Ethiopian Jews etc This is not About Judea and Samaria that you lots call occupied territories It sounds funny that Jews are called occupiers of Judea 😂

[@JackGrau-b5h]

Learned a lot from this. Keep up with the good vids! May I also add that I love how you teach Jewish history without primarily focusing on religion.

[@MavkaMavkaMavka]

This surprised me. I never heard of a Tribal democracy system before. Israel truly is unique.

[@michaelw2288]

Lebanon is a trival democracy. The major offices of state are assigned on the basis of religion. They currently do not have a president.

[@waterloggedsquidd2354]

@@michaelw2288who knows what Lebanon will be on future

[@or366]

And the Leftist who go for democracy in America goes against us.

[@Eretzisrael]

@@michaelw2288😂

[@hellsonly8908]

​@@waterloggedsquidd2354the Israelis want to colonize it

[@rodrigovm]

super interesting! Thank's for sharing!

[@nufractal]

I love this host, it feels like he has a reason for living in Israel

[@Key-zo8qd]

This was very interesting!

[@waisinglee1509]

A very enlightening video, thank you!

[@leebataldar30]

Very well explained. You've out done yourself. Congratulations 👏🏼

[@drknockers5716]

Thank you for the info

[@minhthanhhoang4486]

israel is democracy, not only for Jewish. There are druzes, arab israeli, Yazedi israeli, Yemeni Israeli, etc.s

[@bndiayelelion2469]

That's lie.

[@skontheroad]

He took the words right out of my mouth! "I never thought about it that way!"

[@bnthern]

one of your best presentations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@peacelove1806]

What if the Arab Muslim Israeli Were Majority in Israel and the Jewish Were Minority & Would the Jewish get the same right as Muslim ? Or It would be different story

[@מימוןבןאברהם]

You beat me to the comment. I strongly believe a Jewish State contradicts with democracy. In a democracy, non-Jews can be a majority and vote Israel out of existence.

[@RobyHirsh]

and you see, thats why it being democratic AND jewish is actually so damn important.

[@James-kj4cy]

Ask the Mullahs In Iran! that question!

[@ghosthunter0950]

You can ask Palestinians just that. They will tell you in your face they want Jew to be second class and thats maybe 10% that would accept Jews at all.

[@Islam-Unraveled]

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book(Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Quran 9;29

[@ahmadumeta4]

This video is really an eye opener. Once again, this channel delivers a masterpiece!

[@Maikkeru]

This was an amazing episode! Thank you for Sharing!

[@elizabethelias1005]

Even with their political problems (all countries have some), Israel is the best country in the ME with regard to human rights and freedom.

[@heshaeza]

how is forcing prostitutes and lgbt values on ppl who don't want that a "human right and freedom" .... lmao

[@lehi1147]

​Your schizophrenia is not a counterargument​@@heshaeza

[@lilkevo88]

@@elizabethelias1005 literally the whole world is watching isreal wage war against everyone neighbouring you in the Middle east. And you want to say you are the best at humans rights and freedom? You idiot. You've been oppressing Palestinians for 60 years you fool.

[@mahmoudel-obeid3541]

braindead comment

[@C.E.Thomas1952]

What a wonderful and educational programme. I loved it and I have subscribed. Thank you.

[@brandonllwyd]

Now how about a look of the 2 types of laws for the two classes of people in the West Bank?

[@lordlorian81]

West bank palestinians self governed They are not israeli citizens Same as gazans They are self governed not israeli citizens Israeli arab are israeli citizens And have equal rights This region is very complex For tiny minded people to understand

[@brandonllwyd]

@@lordlorian81 If the Palestinians were self governed, do you really think they would approve of highways in the West Bank that are only for Israeli citizens? If the Palestinians were self governed, would they really have to go to the Israeli government to seek building permits on their own property in the West Bank? Palestinians can thank the United States and the United Nations for overlooking all of these injustices and preventing a respectable level of autonomy. I hope that you will be willing to broaden your perspective on the situation.

[@zevspitz8925]

Yes. Israel's Arab citizens can travel anywhere in the West Bank. Israel's Jewish citizens cannot, nor can they buy property under the Palestinian Authority; the penalty for the seller is unaliving. There are, of course, no Jewish citizens of the Palestinian Authority; it simply isn't allowed.

[@lorilennor3311]

@@lordlorian81can they married from outside You lair

[@lorilennor3311]

@@zevspitz8925 no they can’t buy they still

[@anthonyjaoui2097]

As an Israeli I can totally say that being an Israeli is complicated but it makes me very proud

[@Luqmanvsthewrld]

is it any worse than being palestinian in israel?

[@anthonyjaoui2097]

@@Luqmanvsthewrld no because here in Israel we let any Arab live in peace here (as long that he doesn't have any murderous intentions)

[@GgFjcbjud]

​@@anthonyjaoui2097😂😂😂😂 muderus intentions, you mean shtanyaho has not murderus intentions?

[@1972-d1h]

@@anthonyjaoui2097😂😂😂😂😂 1948 stop lie

[@ZulikhaShafi]

​@@anthonyjaoui2097 isre@l build on top of Palestine... It wasn't build on empty land.

[@Jon-mh5ev]

Amazing video, thank you ❤

[@alexhoang1601]

My experience in Israel in 2022 is still one of the most mind blowing one I ever had visiting any place on earth.

[@RelaxingMusic-su8ob]

Why what happened

[@batya7]

Super presentation!

[@dunnowy123]

These last few videos have - objectively - been bangers.

[@Propeace79]

Love this channel.

[@barrychilds109]

You are Absolutely right Miss Demetra Kaye as far as this dialogue

[@simko8665]

Define Democracy.

[@eltal69]

נהניתי מאוד מהוידאו של היום

[@ayc1948]

Beautiful

[@gugion]

This was fascinating. Nice job.

[@mammuchan8923]

That was very very interesting

[@LeviHashem]

Unpacked is one of my favorite KZbin channels. Keep up the Great work ❤✡️

[@dafnimbus]

Hurrah for Israel

[@JulAlxAU]

I am a pro-Israeli and a Zionist at heart, but calling Israel a true democracy may not necessarily be true. Calling the state a “Jewish State” by itself is anti democratic, so is the lack of constitution and the recent changes to the judicial system. This highlights the importance of working towards improving democracy in Israel 💙🇮🇱💙

[@condovo]

There have been no recent changes to the judiciary. No changes have gone through. October 7th stopped everything in its tracks.

[@MM-yi9zn]

How would any small country cope with angry threatening neighbours surrounding it wishing their demise?

[@1972-d1h]

West powero or Military base from the remnants of colonialism

[@Nitzpitz]

Great vlog

[@bamdadkhan]

awesome analysis. probably not inspired by the comment i made on the last vid but is still related. thanks : )

[@vickispencer2144]

So how do you explain the laws that are written that discriminate against Palestinians, particularly in land purchases and right of return??? You can't be a democracy and have discriminatory laws.

[@UNPACKED]

You should really watch this KZbin video called “Can Israel be a democracy AND the Jewish state?”

[@Abraham-o9z]

​@UNPACKED why did you consult a far left organization about democracy ? (המכון לדמוקרטיה)

[@LondonFriendsWalks]

Fascinating video 1:40 gripped me 90% of Israeli Jews come from Countries that are not Democracies, let’s all meditate on that.

[@dtheman4J]

Israel has a democratic system similar to the British one...based on an unwritten constitution. The problem is, the UK constitution evolved over many centuries of tradition. Ultimately though, democracies only succeed when democratic values are alive and supported by the people.

[@BarkBelle]

👍very interesting!

[@tidusfantasy]

You need to get some Instigators out of parliment: Itamar Ben Gvir and Smotrich, they need to leave! They cause civil unrest in Israel

[@zevspitz8925]

Smotrich said in a media interview posted on his party's KZbin channel that Arab citizens of Israel are deserving of rights and all government services by right, not by magnanimous charity. Ben Gvir has said the same many times. Educate yourself on what Ben Gvir and Smotrich actually stand for.

[@GreenCanvasInteriorscape]

No

[@sushipizza4439]

@@zevspitz8925ben gvir wants a “special police” for arabs. Ben gvir is like a ben queer in college from queers for palestine. Both shitty extremists ruining society

[@tidusfantasy]

@@zevspitz8925 show me the videos! Then why are they celebrating when kids die in Westbank? Giving hi fives to the IDF soldiers when they killed a kid? Explain that please

[@ORRHART]

?? Demogrphically Ben gvir style IS the future of Israel with big percent of ultra orthadox. What benifit removing him will bring?

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghasvdghvsjh]

i live in 1 of those european "democracies" where the goverment openly doesnt care abt constitution and supreme court, so having a constitution doesnt guarantee anything

[@andrewlim9345]

Watching from New Zealand where we dont have a codified constitution. We also have a parliament with both party list and electorate seats, which makes coalition governments common.

[@jh5174]

Very Interesting, thank you.

[@SweBeach2023]

It's hard to consider a state showing so little regard to human life of non-Israelis as a democracy .

[@sammy_trix]

Well, this is an interesting matter. It might as well because Israel is a combination of a democracy with some aspect that is Jewish style since we have rival factions in the past such as (Sadducees, Pharisees, Zealots, and the Essenes) that existed back then.

[@freyatilly]

Oooo. That is so deliciously heartfelt.

[@johnburdette1092]

liberal appeasement Absolutely NOT !

[@Superplatanoman]

the answer is no

[@abdelhakyac7285]

Israel is truly a homelander parody.... precisely that.....and they pay a lot for this kind of misleading content

[@skontheroad]

He took the words right out of my mouth! "I never thought about it that way!" Well done clip! Yet again!!

[@milkakahssay1705]

What a miraculous country Israel is❤❤❤

[@Shade_223]

That’s not the meaning of tribalism buddy

[@zohargofer]

A bit sad fact: there is a rule in Israel that’s saying that in the Jews in Israel only the wedding according to Jewish tradition (and according to the Muslim tradition with the Muslim in Israel and the same with Christians) has recognition

[@MDKalach]

I’m not sure this is the right timing for this video, but we desperately need a constitution! As a normal citizen, how can we demand it?

[@Jennifer-jz7bz]

Blessings for Israel ❤❤ i lived with an Israeli guy for 16 years he had an amazing heart & soul good to the center of his core. I hope he is doing well much love missing him❤❤

[@ChicoTheMan69]

Democracy doesn't have 2nd class citizens, It's a religious state. Whatever happened to the religious authorities?

[@maduabuchi3047]

Israel is a democracy

[@arikkrol]

Didn't watch the video, but as an Israeli I can answer this simple question. Yes, Israel is very much a democracy. We hold elections every 4 years max, we have freedom of speech (plus our media is free to criticise the government at will), we have human rights and equality (yes, even the 20% muslim arabs). We are not perfect, no country is, but we are one of the most modern and advanced western civilizations and we are one of the happiest nations in the world (according to international studies).

[@lmarsh5407]

My christian family in Nazareth do not have equal rights though. There are certain routes that are "Jewish only". They can't always travel everywhere because of this

[@amarrustembegovic9828]

Lies...🤡🤦🏻‍♂️

[@FarberBob678]

@@lmarsh5407 Can you name any "Jewish only" routes?

[@lmarsh5407]

@@FarberBob678 my family was stopped somewhere on route 75. Exactly where I'm not sure

[@FarberBob678]

@@lmarsh5407 Interesting story, thanks for sharing it

[@fishybusinessco.8398]

I mean, I honestly don’t think you can be a religious state and be in democracy to be a true democracy. You must have a choice. But in a traditional democracy, don’t have a choice that’s why America took inspiration from a republic we are hybrid democracy of a republic, democracy values

[@Vladimir_Ches]

a voting system where age is the only criterion for participation may have inherent flaws. The underlying idea is that simply reaching a specific age doesn’t necessarily prepare a person to make informed decisions, especially in the complex and nuanced world of politics. the idea that reaching a certain age is the sole requirement to cast a vote. It implies that additional factors such as civic understanding, awareness of political systems, and the ability to critically evaluate the issues are essential to ensure that voters are making informed decisions that contribute to the health and effectiveness of a democratic system.

[@Njoofene]

Compared to the Arabs, Isreal is very democratic and civilised. I'm not Isreali or Jewish, but I'm not blind.

[@Hasanaljadid]

Gulf countries are more civilised

[@condovo]

@@Hasanaljadid Yes, but less democratic.

[@isscaibnzehra8717]

What about UAE, Qatar, Turkey, Albania

[@NesqRunner]

How strange..are you telling us lizards are more civilzed than humans?

[@TheCanaaniteUnionist]

Lebanon in the ‘60s was pretty democratic imo

[@beresfordforbes]

God Emanuel 🇪🇹 🖤 his the same yesterday today and for evermore Emanuel 🇪🇹 🖤 👑. One ❤🇪🇹 🇯🇲.

[@caseclosed9342]

Didn’t Israel also directly elect their prime minister for a few years via a two-round system in the 90’s?

[@johncane4507]

It passes itself off as one but it isn’t.

[@BoazMwikamba]

Israel is a mature democracy on par with western countries

[@piripipipipopo1234]

I love the video! The only thing that I didn't share was romanticizing the "coalition" between haredim and islamist In some points (maybe too many) they share some core values. Am Israel Jai!

[@nicbahtin4774]

Who cares about a "constitution" Russia has a constitution. It's not about law it's about who makes and enforces the law.

[@zetto814]

I don't know how many versions of Israel map I've seen by Israelis, pro-Israelis, officials etc. Rarely with WB and Gaza as not part of it, some times the land of historic palestine, some other times it swallaws also Jordan + Sinai + Syria + Lebanon + Saudi Arabia partially, or present some kind of blurry borders with WB and Gaza un an in between color not the same as for Israel and not the color of foreign territory either. The map in this video shows Israel in blue, foreign countries inbligjt yellow, WB in Green and Gaza in yellow like a foreign county?

[@fishybusinessco.8398]

I’ll be getting that damn piece of paper written down real soon

[@mydogsbutler]

You can't just leave out human rights groups have been accusing Israeli state of aparteid policies towards Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank for years.. Nor the war crimes that Netanyahu is accused to have committed in Gaza. Nor ignoring Greater Israel rhetoric. The land thefts. The settler terrorist attacks. Kahanists as ministers under Likud government. This isn't to say Hamas are somehow the good guys but evading addressing these issues shows a lack of objectivity.

[@UNPACKED]

Oh don't worry, we don't: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5Xbp5KFoNuNjrM

[@PrinAnie]

The Chief Rabbinate holds too much power. Forget about who is allowed to vote, we are talking about the laws that people should vote for. Write Torah based laws into the constitution, but don't give a minority power over all civil matters. The things that matter to people on a base level: their families. I would need to go to Cypress, even if I married another Jew. I wouldn't be able to get married in my shul, surrounded by my friends and family, a signed ketubah and a chuppah. Because I am not Orthodox. And that is only the start. What if I divorce? Want custody of my children? Require child support? And all the other things that people go through in their personal lives? Well, there is a civil court, but guess who holds equal power? Yup The Chief Rabbinate. And their decisions are held up by the police and other law enforcement. Its like Animal Farm by Orwell , some citizens are more equal to others.

[@zevspitz8925]

It's not because you're not Orthodox; non-Orthodox Jews can certainly be Jews under halacha. But that is the question. And it's an essential question: there must be somebody to set the standard for conversions, marriages, and other religious-law changes of personal identity. The only standard accepted by the entire Jewish people is the Orthodox one. Consider what would happen if the Ministry of Health agreed to let every claimed cure for COVID-19 serve instead of the vaccine. How many people would be infected by the people drinking mint tea to get rid of COVID? These religious-law personal-identity changes affect more than just the individual, or even their children; they affect the entire Jewish people.

[@skontheroad]

Wish he also mentioned Ayelet was Ethiopian! They, too, have big positions, even in the government!

[@rakefetgal8383]

we can all see she is a gorgeous Ethiopian woman, sweety. no need to mantion the obviose :)

[@adoramase]

Is the US really a democracy? Name some countries that are

[@Music_clips1]

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[@rakefetgal8383]

you do remember it still very very young state in terms of "statehood" right? the "Tribal" values is still very strong element in Israeli Society. and it will take time an more Generations to be desolves by itself

[@ryanmoore2447]

I got an email asking if I want to volunteer being a paramedic in isrl. This is the only channel I watch that has something to do with isrl. Has anyone else gotten the email?

[@humanfrommars882]

the title may aswell be "is grass green?"

[@danajeff2020]

It got you to click on it

[@kaoyang1237]

Republic not Democracy.

[@ahmedraja1757]

U forgot to add both West Bank & Gaza to Israel completely

[@haguitabergel]

who cares if there is a constitution? canada had one since the 80's, but we've seen on many occasions (especially recently) how that paper is totally worthless like a marriage license: is it better to have the OBLIGATION to behave a certain way, or to have the aspiration and conviction to practice such behavior?

[@elizabethtesta6284]

Never they like to dictate to the world😣

[@johnburdette1092]

This is Sick.

[@TheEvander73]

The ICJ has ruled that Israel is an apartheid state, so legally & by definition, it is NOT a democracy and it has different laws depending on your religion.

[@hurremhightower]

source?for that statement

[@user-gf5rb2dt9f]

When there can be 58 Islamic nations , why Israel cannot be Jewish state with partial democracy.. with full democracy , it will become Islamic .. cannot you see conditions in Europe??

[@waisinglee1509]

When you fight amongst each other so much, woe betide those who would interfere.

[@ॐIo]

They're keen because they want to have their unique image

[@ahmedraja1757]

Wow Israel is 1 of the best democracies in the Middle East. But Israel is not the only 1. There’s other democracies like Lebanon

[@DevonRyeTheDragonfly]

Great video. You just need to make a distinction between islamic and islamist.

[@coisasale763]

UK also has no constitution

[@McGoogger]

Can’t wait for the day when Israel is a more perfect country

[@anthonymadden9322]

I haven’t seen a bad video on this channel.

[@tomerp3777]

In shot: Yes

[@willielee5253]

🇮🇱👑🇮🇱

[@josephk.k.950]

No. It's plain & simple an apartheid state. No amount of propaganda will alter that plain & simple, crystal clear fact.

[@hurremhightower]

this isn’t instagram

[@sftrick]

I kind of feel like the Haredi who are exempted from military service shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Otherwise it allows them to vote militaristically but not risk their or their children’s lives in war.

[@zevspitz8925]

Haredim cannot enter the military without sacrificing Judaism. (The religious-Zionists have the same problem; they make all sorts of compromises the Haredim aren't willing to do.) Is Israel now going to prevent freedom of worship?

[@Didleeios88]

Arabs are also exempt. Should they too be disenfranchised?

[@sftrick]

@@Didleeios88 Anyone who chooses exemption rather than joining the military service like anyone else shouldn't get to vote until they are no longer of service age. It would be their choice to give up that right if they don't want to serve.

[@Didleeios88]

@@sftrick interesting. What would you say about people who were exempt for medical reasons? Should the disabled also not vote?

[@sftrick]

@@Didleeios88 A person who is eligible to serve but seeks an exemption from mandatory service should relinquish their right to vote.