Can Macron Kill the EU’s Biggest Ever Trade Deal?

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[@lucasaparecido5227]

this trade agreement will destroy the Brazilian industry, and fortify the european industry.

[@Doidera-h5f]

realy cool ,german girls ar epretty and friendly and brasil too,,, all the good girls.. hehehe ,,

[@SeamusOCleirigh2002]

Putting the potatoe graphic over Ireland was so criminal 💀

[@Xyz41974]

Good for competition not so good for irish farmers 😅

[@cw732]

Dan Quayle?

[@spacecube8561]

@Only_x_Bored 4:47

[@GustavoJua15]

Funny thing is that potatoes originally come from South America

[@andresiqueira8108]

What got me was the fact that they use Minecraft graphics

[@Talshere88]

"France has environmental concerns." No it doesn't, it has agricultural protectionist concerns which it's covering up as environmental concerns because saying "you're not allowed to be cheaper than France" is not politically acceptable. I swear half of the EU food standards and "environmental concerns" are mostly about allowing it to ban agricultural imports without getting challenged in the WTO because France.

[@blitz3391]

It is also environmental concerns. A lot of chemicals used in agriculture are banned in France for their demonstrated danger for the environment and the populations, and are NOT banned in south America. Americans are so used to eating crappy chemical filled stuffs they just don't care. The concern is also not so much about locally produced goods; France don't import most of their beef or cereals, it's mostly done locally, and the EU regulations mandate to explicitly say where meat comes from. No the concern is more for "hidden" imports where the legislation is more vague or doesn't account yet for an influx of chemicaly grown products from the other side of the world.

[@jobloluther]

@@blitz3391this is pseudo scientific nonsense, nothing we eat is natural

[@danix4883]

Funny how France has big protectionist policies but once other countries do it, the French government complains

[@legalak1578]

@@danix4883as a French i thinks everyone should be protectionist.

[@urlauburlaub2222]

@@blitz3391 No, also France isn't famous for upholding all these standards. I don't see, that people won't buy quality in France or elsewhere, but it's more or less fearmongering by fake news.

[@SeverusFelix]

Mercosur is my favorite dinosaur.

[@_____alyptic]

And Pokémon

[@gregoryturk1275]

Skibidi sigma rizz

[@norreras343]

People like You isnthe reason for all being ohio

[@Baphomets_Kid]

@@_____alypticMercosur makes foreign debt payment! But… he missed.

[@SeverusFelix]

@gregoryturk1275 I wonder if people born in the 60s were as perplexed by my teenage slang as I am by yours.

[@luciferkotsutempchannel]

“We need to move away from being dependent on America” “Noooo, we can’t trade with other countries!!!”

[@twistedsteeltv6130]

The irony always makes me chuckle.

[@Decamix300]

To be fair the point is to be autonomous, Mercosur is a risk to become dependent on South America so it doesn't stray from the position presented. I'm not taking any positions here just saying

[@zaikolebolsh5724]

​@@Decamix300 with the absolute neutrality south america has shown through history, it is unironically the best bet on a trade deal just focused on trade and no "you do this or i dont give you this anymore" like with... basically everywhere else but africa(which is mostly already exploited or too poor or actually risky to invest in)

[@4m4n40]

America rivals Russia and China for their blatant corruption. At least you can argue that fairness and justice is more fair in western Europe.

[@Decamix300]

@@zaikolebolsh5724 That's a good point, though I imagine that would just ensure that trades are slightly more favorable. From my understanding, the big thing for people who support the opposing view is that they don't want to rely on someone at all. Or the least possible since even if relations are good, unforeseen events can happen. Like war, or natural catastrophes which are getting more frequent with the deregulation of climate. At least that's the official reason

[@johndurham6172]

Trump's tariffs are going to bring South America and the EU closer.

[@unstoppable5357]

Everybody wins

[@arielbatista7ify]

No if Macron can avoid it

[@jujuba5487]

I doubt it. In terms of food, EU countries have it all figured.

[@birdatbattlefield]

Its actually not. Even still US wins because both trade heavily with US

[@carlosbarross]

USA só tem a perder tarifando os Brics!

[@shrimp708]

Love the Minecraft icons. I genuinely laughed

[@moirayim1076]

Yeah😂❤

[@bobomus7863]

Same😂

[@bertram-raven]

As this in mainly about the European Commission, characters from Mein Kampf would be more appropriate. (If you do not know why, examine the family trees of the current senior members of the European Commission.)

[@oevers]

@@bertram-ravenMods, why do I have to read this? Please delete this ASAP. I’m German and you don’t know what you’re talking about.

[@R.a.f.a.e.l.]

It's crazy that some french farmers may block this. I'm brazilian, the EU is the most to benefit from this. On the other hand, brazilian CONSUMERS will benefit from it. Many in Brazil are against it because we will export low-value products and we will get highly valued products as imports, because it would "hurt our industries". The problem is, many other brazilians know by now that this is bs. We have had insanely high import fees for ages and those industries haven't developed. So we have been paying more for nothing in return. Where are our smarphone industries? TV? We fabricate cars with components that come from outside so the final price the consumer pays is still ridiculous. Protectionism in Brazil is crazy agressive and we haven't been seeing a significant increase in exports of high-value products for decades. So why keep it? Funny that France might block this deal to protect farmers, while their most high tech industries which bring way more profit would suffer. This is populism 101. Seems like some europeans are becoming a lot like our own politicians in south america. The environmental concerns are a joke. In fact guess who was one the mains exporters of the so called unsafe fertilizers to Brazil? That's right, France. They sell the damn thing and when we use it they brand it unsafe for the sake of politics. You guys get cheaper beef, we get cheaper eletronics. Our farmers get happier, your high-tech industries get happier. Sounds good to me, after decades of failed national protectionism. Even if that means the EU get the better of it when it comes to trade balance.

[@V1p3r_spl]

Exactly. As a Brit, we've learned the hard way that protectionism is not the answer. Both the EU and South America will benefit from trade in the long run. And yes, populism is by far the biggest threat to democracy and civilised society (looking at you, MAGA).

[@idromano]

A indústria não se desenvolveu pois foi boicotada pelas elites do atraso do agro e do mercado financeiro e, claro, pelo neoliberalismo dos anos 90. E, para nos manter distraídos, criaram a narrativa que nos coloca contra a indústria. Em suma, os poderosos daqui de dentro e de fora não querem que o Brasil cresça como a China. Eles nos querem como um eterno fazendao.

[@simon2493]

We are already importing tons of food form brazil and Argentina free teade isn't sole game changer or opneong of the flood gates, but who cares when it's all about fears?

[@jjnolastname8386]

I think it’s more that the EU has more leverage negotiating with one on one

[@piotrsie5465]

Bs. I bet you were saying same thing about Nordstreams to Russia or inviting immigrants to Europe by Germany. Germans are destroying EU

[@youtubeisdeletingourcomments]

Our farmers are the backbone of our society. We all eat everday

[@w花b]

Then why does this exist if tons of it is imported. Nothing wrong with having local farmers protected, the US will do the same for it's industries soon or already does for some especially in regards to China.

[@russelbrazil]

@@jjnolastname8386 no, it is just a matter of less taxes from both sides

[@reaperz5677]

I think we should take the deal. Cheaper food prices and less tariffs on exports would massively increase our economies.

[@youtubeisdeletingourcomments]

History does not teach you anything? We've been there in the 80/90s with China. Look where they are and where are we

[@yalassa1]

cheap food comes at a price Europeans should not be willing to pay. Food is a health matter.

[@AUniqueHandleName444]

@@yalassa1 It won't be much cheaper. The tariff reductions they're talking about mostly only apply to a small fraction of their imports in each category. Europe has soooo much more to gain here than Mercosur does.

[@toriannasigourney9737]

they know Argentina is about to enter the liquified gas exportation era

[@peterhughes2941]

EU fossil fuel bad. Overseas fossil fuel good

[@mateowag]

good, so the EU can stop relying on russian gas

[@ingemar_von_zweigbergk]

latin american beef tastes better than european beef swedish beef has low quality and is expensive

[@agme8045]

in Argentina the cheapest cuts of beef are 5€/kg. You can get entrecôte and filet mignon for around 10€/kg. For the more premium quality beef prices are similar to Europe, but the non-premium is still very very good.

[@jean-edouardahmedozzi6120]

First of all, no it doesn't. Second, it makes no sense to bring dead meat from across a fucking ocean when we have it here.

[@ArturoSubutex]

As a French, I can tell you this is the most united and in agreement with Macron I’ve seen people, from the left to the center to the far right in… well, almost ever.

[@inbb510]

French people just can't fathom that they have to compromise on something for once in the interests of the whole bloc. For you people, it's "fair competition" when it completely benefits you guys and "unfair competition" when it doesn't completely benefit you guys. Never mind that the trade barriers are being removed for products that already qualify EU checks and norms. Maybe stop the archaic farming practices and invest in tech?

[@ArturoSubutex]

@sleepyjoe8256 Have you read me correctly? Everyone agrees with Macron on this one, that the deal should NOT happen

[@mukkaar]

It's pretty crazy considering how wildly beneficial this is for EU. Agriculture is in danger? At MOST, it's 1.something percent at risk. Other than that, be it for diversifying energy and raw resource sources, overall getting cheaper goods etc. This is pretty brilliant deal. Environment concerns are even more stupid, without trade deal, we have zero influence on how they use their resources. EU is maybe the most environmentally conscious places on planet overall, and if they trade with others instead, which they will, I doubt things will be better.

[@sleepyjoe8256]

United in hatred, never wrong

[@diogorodrigues747]

@@mukkaar That 1% is enough to put the whole farm lobby against European institutions though. It's impressive how much power they have despite not even being that relevant compared to the whole European population.

[@vitaomachado]

About "differences in pesticide regulations", do the French really expect Brazil's tropical agriculture to operate just like France's temperate farms? The warmer the climate, the more tropical bugs to worry about and the easier to dissipate and evaporate the chemicals. Also, biomes in Europe and South America have different "ecological resiliences". One size does not fit all. Brazil's agribusiness feeds 1 billion people worldwide. If France has one serious "unsafe accusation" to make, please, do the whole world a favor and report to the WTO, to FAO or to the Pope.

[@bertram-raven]

Insert Meme of Macron saying "They are the same picture."

[@zeroxcqt2862]

As french we banned thousands of shit because it’s harmful for people ,we do not want French farmer to follow the rule thus increasing their cost all the while Brazil grow their things full of those shits for a lower cost ..It has no sense

[@Erwanca]

So you do want to import food that doesn’t match the quality standards and pesticide regulations that the European chart requires. Meaning consumers buying from farms on the other side of the world rather than their local farms that have (mandatory) to produce within the rules, meaning another blow to the European agricultural field that is already so low and fragile.

[@jujuba5487]

😂 i am portuguese and we fell the same as france. Your regulation dont match EU. Sell your stuff to other countries.

[@AgentK-im8ke]

i will boycot any Mercosur product

[@franug]

considering that the UE also has in place a free trade agreement with Chile, and one provisionally with Perú, Ecuador and Colombia, this means most of the South American continent now can benefit from trading with Europe. As a Chilean I can attest that having this status is great for us, especially with large European companies in the infraestructure and energy sector (Ferrovial, Engie and others) working with our government here; they're for sure better than the Chinese (the Americans have long forgotten about us), helping us build better highways, airports, etc. Plus we have been exporting tons of agriculture products to Europe over the years, like fruits and wine, something that of course our farmers appreciate.

[@SeArCh4DrEaMz]

yes and we dont, here in belgium and other EU countries we know that our food standards will decrease, as our farmers that have much stricter rules wont compete on the same levels as say, a chilean farmer, in fact many if not most pestices and chemicals used in agriculture in south america are banned here, and dont let me get started on food standards when it comes to meat as well. I am all for trade with south america but when it comes to food safety and standards, it is completely different worlds. The only reason this deal is on the table is because of the greed of some lobbies here in europe, while the consumer and the local farmers will suffer, the big companies will cash in, as they always do.

[@petergreenwood7731]

Peru/China open a new mega port -- BRI China is already the largest trading partner of most countries in South America. New infrastructure projects in the region like the port of Chancay will help Asia deepen their economic integration in what Beijing refers to as South-South cooperation

[@reaperz5677]

@@SeArCh4DrEaMz The "reason" why the deal is on the table is because free trade agreements are great for economies. We literally have this sort of stupid debate over "SHOULD WE ALLOW CHEAPER FOOD INTO EU?" each time we discuss adding new members to the EU. Poland couldn't join the E.U. for quite a while because western countries (like Belgium) whined about the influx of cheap, Eastern European food supposedly harming their agriculture industry. Yet, we let those countries in, anyways. We do this CONSTANTLY, and you ALWAYS lose - that's because what you're arguing for is nothing, for regression in trade, by not allowing free trade agreements over agriculture, while these sort of trade agreements force European farmers, to, you know, modernize? Innovate? Compete? Like we're supposed to? Instead of constantly feeding cash into the never-ending, never improving black hole of "hArD wOrKiNg fArMeRs"?

[@franug]

​@@SeArCh4DrEaMz This is misguided, as having a free trade deal (we've had one with you guys since 2003) effectively works as soft-law, imposing some of the same food standards from Europe here in Chile, otherwise we couldn't export our produce there. I assure you, at least in Chile, that our standards are pretty high. I can't speak for Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay or Paraguay, though, but I'm guessing it will work similarly eventually.

[@franug]

@@petergreenwood7731 yes, China is investing heavily in South America, but not in every country at the same rate, and still, it would be dumb for us to deny having countries invest here, especially when the USA simply ignores us, right? Having said that, and as someone who works in infraestructure here in Chile, I rather work with European companies than Chinese ones; their compliance norms and general work culture are more similar to ours, hence easier for us to integrate.

[@Angel24Marin]

I dislike how agriculture hold us at gun point always. Ask the average citizen and they would tell that what their contry needs is to bring back industrial jobs. This deal would help european industry and the general anxiety around strategic resources and lost footing in the world but a very vocal minority make a ton of noise (10 people with tractors are more disruptive than 100 striking workers). And they refuse to differentiate their products with organic agriculture and proximity agriculture due to idelogical intoxication.

[@silotx]

Farmers don't have it easy since supermarkets and middle men receive most of the money from customers and the farmers get pennies back so the governments chip in to keep them afloat and able to invest for their next season. Then some farmers waste that money or invest it outside their farms and the never ending cycle continues. If we had better law to protect the farmers and customers from the middle men and the supermarkets we wouldn't waste so much money in agriculture and if we had programs to monitor and help their farmers grow their farm with better knowledge and equipment then we could transform our agriculture but since politicians receive a ton of money from the middle men / supermarket chains and they control parts of the media this is never going to happen.

[@joaocerceau5810]

It's not like Europe is the one taking the bad side of the deal and becoming a poor commodity shithole with no future and nothing but crap jobs basically for eternity in the deal.

[@Angel24Marin]

@silotx Then make a farmer cooperative supermarket to skip intermediaries. Farmer protests only act as anti-government protests, never again the supply chain that screws them nor the agro industry that out compete small farmers. Last time a farmer protest happened about the PAC in Spain a journalist asked one protestor about changes and he just answered that he didn't know, that he was just an "errand boy" sent by his company.

[@xanderx2523]

This!!! Everytime food gets cheap the farmers are ready with their protests! I know we need farmers so we can feed ourselfs if global trade collapses but they are really stretching peoples patience lately...

[@TheBostricano]

If mercosur produces most of your food.THEY OWN YOU!!!! WHY SHOULD MY TOMATOES COME FROM THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY WHEN THEY GROW NICE AND WELL IN PEOVENCE??

[@inbb510]

And people wonder why nothing gets done in the EU...

[@adghat7819]

The EU is too bureaucracy. It is great to do business with other EU countries but not great when it comes to non EU.

[@antonioharannogueira305]

It's time for deregulation !

[@kompatybilijny9348]

This is extremely good news. This deal only benefits Germany and arguably nordics, while everyone else suffers. Thankfully, Germany's voice does not matter if everyone else disagrees with them.

[@inbb510]

@@kompatybilijny9348 what's the point of a union when the union as a collective is going be disunited on anything and everything that the Commission tries to pass?

[@antonioharannogueira305]

@@kompatybilijny9348 It beneficts other countries as well When Trump arrives in the administration and imposes those tariffs, then Europe will need an alternative.. You should look to the future, not the present

[@fernandosegala3964]

Beats me why we are so averse to cheaper food in Europe. We say no to Ukrainian agriculture, we say no to Mercosur and then we bitch about the price of groceries and cost of living. I suppose we like to complain more than we like to have better prices.

[@thespanishinquisition4078]

French farmers have full carte blanche to do whatever they want, and they're holding the entire union hostage. Its time Macron gets the Orban treatment.

[@user-pc3nc3hg6w]

Germany said yes to cheap russian gaz and see where that led them

[@ciaranbrk]

Because we don’t want to put our farmers out of business

[@ulfatiazul]

Because European people should eat what they produce instead of polluting the planet by importing a mango from the other part of the world 😡

[@Yodalemos]

How ignorant. Remember when we said we'd do that with our industry. And now we rely on China to build everything and we don't have industrial jobs or pay any more? If China were to officially join its Russian ally in their war, what would we boycott? Everything? No more electronics, no more clothes, no more pharmaceuticals, etc.

[@PotNanny]

EU needs MERCOSUR a lot more than MERCOSUR needs the EU.

[@russelbrazil]

MERCOSUL

[@twilson3133]

Ehhh

[@sabinamateosdiaz5443]

Mercosur (in spanish), Mercosul (in portuguese) both words are correct. Greetings from argentina

[@Tincho326]

@@russelbrazilArgentina and Brazil founded it together. You can’t found a coalition alone. You are aware of that right?

[@Guizambaldi]

​@@russelbrazil"duh... Brazil founded a trade BLOC alone".

[@TheGalifrey]

Venezuela is also a Full member but is currently suspended.

[@KB7_0]

i don’t think they are a full member then

[@LeonardoMenezes03]

@@KB7_0 trade deals are suspended but their citizens still enjoy free movement.

[@nicolasinvernizzi6140]

@@KB7_0 they were suspended for obvious reasons.

[@TheGalifrey]

@@KB7_0 Yes they are a full member, they just have their trade rights suspended. If they weren't a full member I wouldn't have said full member would I. 🤣

[@agme8045]

@@LeonardoMenezes03basically all South American countries have free movement of people, regardless of their Mercosur membership.

[@TeuresBrot]

I love the minecraft Items 😂

[@AnymMusic]

3:18 bro Milei looking like he has no idea what's happening but just has to go with it 😭

[@krasorx]

He really despises everyone there except for lacalle poe at his side

[@ArcheonW]

The problem isn't the imports, the problem are the restrictions and regulations placed on farmers forcing their costs artificially higher than their south american counterparts.

[@edouardmontfort7816]

It's also the scale and agricultural model. The french farmer raising 80 grass fed cows in Auvergne will never be competitive against huge industrial farms in south America.

[@viniciusdavila2737]

​@@edouardmontfort7816Actually it's a LOT cheaper to produce grass fed beef in Brazil because land is 4x cheaper and there is no harsh winter, cows can eat grass year-round.

[@edouardmontfort7816]

@@viniciusdavila2737 Yeah but we want no GMOs, no overdose of antibiotics, no molecules forbidden in France. If anyone in Brazil is working under "french compatible standards" it is anecdotal. And anyway, we don't like the vision of moving around meat. Humans need to take note of the planetary limits. If there's not enough grass in France for eating grass fed red meat everyday, then we don't eat grass fed red meat everyday. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Why shall we always want more globalization and exploitation of the ressources ? We're already seeing the earth on a dangerous trajectory. Let's be reasonable people !

[@InugamiTheHound]

France and farmers are always against every trade deal and its annoying AF

[@jean-edouardahmedozzi6120]

Maybe because said trade deals are always heavily catering towards German industries ?

[@spacecowboyofficial]

It's lose-lose for France, the goal of the deal is to make Germany shine

[@jean-edouardahmedozzi6120]

literally there is nothing in that deal that empowers France, quite the contrary Time for Frexit honestly. We're tired of Mitteleuropa larpers

[@bretonneux3389]

Oh no, France is against ist own self destruction ? Oh annoying ! Against free trade deals, yep. And proudly. Because it's madness, we've only see ravages of free trade for the last 3 decades. No more, thanks. Free trade is bad for workers (unemployment), bad for consumers (lower quality) and bad for the environment.

[@kreppel8453]

UK gonna get Mad when they see this and realize they could also have that 😂

[@Perun944]

Not as mad as French farmers, lmao.

[@smal750]

​@@Perun944 your country is collapsing, lmao

[@JR47846]

@@Perun944 and italian farmers spanish portuguese..... even consumers and ambientalists should be mad about this

[@WestermanT.]

Yeah we’re all mad that our market won’t be flooded with super cheap produce pricing our own farmers out. We will probably lose sleep over this and may even cry into our pillows because we weren’t part of a deal that wouldn’t benefit us.

[@kreppel8453]

@ Glad you’re happy! I am also very happy, Brexit really boosted my city to become the biggest financial centre in the EU, very nice Maybe the UK wouldn’t profit from a tariff free 250 Million people market to access.

[@GaloCanibal]

democracy is wonderful, isn't it?

[@tasky479]

Don't buy gas from russia or usa. Buy from Argentina ❤

[@brauliobo]

"environmentally conscious government" LOL Brazil broke the record of burned forests last year with this government

[@georgiosioannou6464]

once again great video however the co-legislator is the Council of the EU, NOT the european council

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

Rejecting this deal is great for the EU. Germany will get into even deeper and longer recession, to the point it won't be able to help the EU budget anymore, and that of course will do wonders for the economies of Poland, Spain, Hungary, Greece, Czechia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Portugal, Romania, Bulgaria, and it will be awesome for the future of the EU as a whole. 😅😅😅😅

[@sakakaka4064]

You're acting like Germany is sending money as some sort of charity lol. The sooner Europe gets detached from the German economy and the German companies, the better.

[@Just_another_Euro_dude]

@sakakaka4064 Go tell Poland, Hungary, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Czechia, Slovakia, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Slovenia, Croatia that... It ain't charity, but at the same time it is charity. It's a money that Germany invests to boost the economies that need it, while Germany also gets the new markets and new consumers for it's own goods.

[@Skantezz]

Germany can blame itself and its silly energy policies.

[@sakakaka4064]

@@Just_another_Euro_dude Most of the countries you've mentioned are going to become net payers to the EU budget in 2028, so the whole idea of a unified European market accessible by a yearly fee is becoming less and less attractive to the newest members, while Germany keeps on holding the iron grip on their economies. The next 10-20 years are going to be interesting. You'll see.

[@starwarsgames5467]

@@sakakaka4064 You are delusional if you think the EU is even capable of functioning without a strong German Economy at the center, are you even aware how intertwind the european economies are? Hate on us if you want, but if we go down you are going down with us.

[@LucasBenderChannel]

Love the use of Minecraft graphics. 😂😅 Did you have to pay some sort of licencing fee to use them? Or are they perfectly free?

[@holius1]

falls under fair use i reckon

[@lobato2833]

I love how I ( a Brazilian) have to rely on france to protect our industry

[@pomperidus]

I'm French and pro-Mercosur. I don't like protectionism or the grip of the agro lobby in France, but to be honest, even though this borders on conspiracy theory, a lot of people in France have genuine environmental and health concerns due to the existing differences in pesticide regulations and due to a lack of trust in the EU customs and health authorities of South American countries. I understand that this can be wrong and might feel insulting; I'm just conveying that this opposition is not dictated by cynicism or pure economic interest. My personal take is that I am adult enough to decide which products I trust or not without forcing tariffs on those who disagree with my food choices (and this comes from a vegetarian). Don't want Argentine meat for whatever reason? Be it bullshit or legitimate - just don't buy it.

[@danielramirez8298]

Think also the goods that mercosur is not competitive and indeed, France is , for example the varieties of cheeses, Wines, Olives . south America can't produce It with the same quantity or quaility that France.

[@reaperz5677]

I think another thing people ignore is that this deal isn't as large as it could be. As in, if you want to expand it (and countries like Brazil want to expand it A LOT), then you have to negotiate again - that means that you can leverage certain conditions for the expansion. You can, say, tell Brazil that they need to protect the Amazon forest better, if they want a better deal. It's a win-win for environmental policies. What fucking else do we have as leverage over Brazil, if not this deal? Why is every green politician/activist ignoring this?

[@naapsuvaimne740]

@@reaperz5677 BS

[@alvaroludolf]

Ok, people saying that there are sanitary concerns about MS agricultural products. Please tell me one measure that the French farmers have to go do that farmers in South America doesn't. Farmers here already sell these products to EU, just at higher tariffs, and not only they follow all the EU standards, they are also under more scrutiny, not only from MS inspectors but also from EU inspectors (yes, your inspectors already check our production sites). The farmers here even have to vaccinate the cattle and test the plants for diseases that doesn't exist in South America, just because they exist in the super exposed and inefficient farming practices in Europe. (Just remember that mad cow disease only exists in countries that feed cow carcasses to they cattle, so every time we have mad cow disease in Brasil is because we imported the sick animal... most of the time imported from EU) Yeah, farming in Brazil is already in line with European market, and Chinese market, and every market that they sell to. So stop pretending that this is about sanitary concerns, you just cannot tolerate that a poor country is better than you in something, while you hold no concerns about flooding our markets with the things that you do better than us. Oh and about Amazon deforestation, farmers don't produce meat in there. The soil is too poor for grass, mind you. Meat in Brazil is produced in the south and mid-west regions, not the north. We do deforest the Amazon to produce one agricultural product though: soy. And do you know what we do with all that soy? We sell it to the EU to feed THEIR cows. So, in a sense, stop been a hypocrite if you want to protect the Amazon rain forest. Stop eating European meat and buy more meat from MercoSul.

[@Skyline68230]

So wait, you're saying the soil in the deforested part of Amazonia is not suited for cattles because the soil is too poor for grass. But this soil is suited for intensive soy farming... Sounds inconsistent.

[@alvaroludolf]

@@Skyline68230 Yeah, soy is easier to plant that grass, you just need a shit ton of water and large empty land. So, technically, soy is not intensive farming, it is extensive farming since we use a lot of land (same goes for cattle production, we use a lot more land because we have them, that is why our meat is superior). Don´t get me wrong, after a time the soil will get so poor that not even soy will grow, becoming the poor soil that we have in the cerrado or worse, becoming a desert. Contrary to popular belief the grass that cows eat is not your regular run of the mill backyard grass. It is difficult to say in English because they only have one word for it "grass" but in Portuguese we differentiate "mato" and "capim", the first been an annoyance that cows will not eat and the second the sugar rich plant that they need.

[@Skyline68230]

@@alvaroludolf Like you said, intensive farming like soy depletes the soils. If you can grow soy, you can grow grass tenfold.

[@alvaroludolf]

@@Skyline68230 go back and read what I wrote. No, grass is not easier to grow. Cows don't eat your backyard grass.

[@Skyline68230]

@@alvaroludolf Dude, you are inconsistent... Depleted soils from deforested area are suited for intensive soy farming (soy for cow food), but it isn't suited for grass destined for cow food. That's what you are saying. So to put it simply the deforested areas are suited for this cow food, but not for that cow food, am I right ? Sounds like big bullshit to me. If you can grow soy in an intensive manner, you can do it as well for your special grass.

[@larslarsen5414]

Sounds like a good deal for both parties. Great job EU.

[@Nermalton77]

It's terrible deal for Brazil. But unfortunately the Agricultural exporter sector own the brazilian state, and make everyone believe that their interest is everyone's interest

[@user-wz9qy4ed1j]

​@@Nermalton77 Brazilian industry will have acess to cheaper supply, they are in favour of the deal.

[@santostv.]

Brazilians will keep the worse quality products and the best will be sold and exported to Europe, more Amazon rainforest is probably going to be cut down 😂

[@CarpeDiem13x]

Merkel ? Is that you ? We all know how it goes when Germany uses EU for their own interest. Putin, Germany and Russian gas..... Now it is gonna be German cars, Mercosur getting them and EU agriculture destroyed.

[@Kephy_]

It's a terrible deal for farmers...

[@afz902k]

I live in the EU and if south Brazilian, Uruguayan and Argentinian beef flooded the market... I'd be so freaking happy.

[@manyulgarprsch]

Why? Do they produce a lot of it ? Is it good quality?

[@walli6388]

​@manyulgarprsch Argentina beef is the best

[@afz902k]

@manyulgarprsch it's amazing, arguably best non wagyu in the world. But the texans might wanna argue with that.

[@yxgygv7883]

@manyulgarprsch Yes, they produce a lot, and Argentina high end beef is among the very best. But what they will export is mass product beef grown with antibiotics and GMOs, so a lot of shit we don't want in our supermarket.

[@Nermalton77]

I'm a brazilian living in EU. I came home this month and I can say, oh god how I missed our beef haha

[@lumzes7435]

Brazil feeds more than 1 billion people around the world every year. But these foods are not suitable for the French 😂😂😂

[@edouardmontfort7816]

GMOs have always been banned in France as well as many pesticides molecules than are toxic to humans and found in the meat. Feed whatever you like to Africa and China. It's not our business.

[@bretonneux3389]

Nope it's not. Too full of chemicals. There's a reason why tourists love the french food so much. Its not about being "suitable". Its about not increasing infant mortality, obesity, or lowering life expectancy. Food should not be traded from one continent to another anyway.

[@louisd9013]

Macron is highly unpopular, and as a French citizen, I completely agree. He is indeed politically weakened because the French people largely reject him. However, his current stance of refusing the Mercosur agreement might be the most popular decision he has made since taking office in 2017. edit : I am fully committed to the European project, but where are the ecological policies, the promotion of local supply chains, and sustainable development?

[@adrianchezorts]

Same for me. I'm fully into European integration, but almost everything the EU does regarding farming imports makes little sense. We have a lot of strict environmental and health standards, which at least for me, are to be proud of, but then, for some reason the EU just allows a lot of foreign goods that wouldn't meet even the minimum requirements. It's not that Mercosur alone is a problem, it's just adding to the current problem. I see trade deals as something potentially beneficial, but we shouldn't let in any food we aren't 100% sure that match our regulations. Even with the USA, if there was one topic I appreciated about Trump becoming President in 2016, it was that he took down the TTIP.

[@reaperz5677]

France doesn't care about environmental policies, don't lie to us. You're just using that excuse because "farmers are lazy and don't want to become more productive" sounds worse. "Local supply chains" depends on what you mean. Inter-EU, or just nationally? Because BOTH of them aren't impacted by Mercosur, because Mercosur is supposed to be an international supply chain. Want to complain about "local supply chains?" Complain to your own government/EU lawmakers, but keep Mercosur out of it, because the absense of "promotion of local supply chains" in an INTERNATIONAL trade deal is borderline crazy. Next you're going to complain that NATO membership doesn't come with mandatory tree planting, or something. And as for sustainable development: pretty sure cheaper food prices are actually good for European sustainability, actually. And if you want to complain about the Amazon forest or something - the only way you're going to gain leverage in this problem over Brazil is if you have the Mercosur deal. If you have the deal, you can pre-condition the expansion of the deal with more environmentally friendly policies from Brazil. But if you don't have it - you literally have no leverage, present of future. Yeah I don't know dude, I strongly disagree with everyone who's against the deal. Seems to me like the only people against it are farmers, because striking/protesting is easier than becoming more productive farmers, like they're supposed to.

[@samd6720]

@@reaperz5677 It has nothing to do with farmers being not productive enough. It's just that in Europe there are many regulations on pesticides and chemical products you can use for agriculture. However, you don't have most of these regulations in South America. Then you are gonna import those goods which will be cheaper because don't have as many health or environmental regulations which will kill European farmers. That's the problem many people have with this deal.

[@edouardmontfort7816]

Also french here, not a supporter of Macron, aligned with that comment. The video is not well informed. This trade agreement is a toxic non sense.

[@emilianomederos]

Why then EU emision Co2 are so high for example?

[@AgentK-im8ke]

IMPORTANT : france is NOT legally bound to the EU deal france could refuse to sign the deal alone even if the EU sign it ! which would be close the door for the second largest market in the EU for mercosur and access to major trad ports

[@guillaumerenard5974]

More and more globalization... such a disaster Agriculture is not a market, it's a service to the population. We can't trade our means of subsistence like we trade cars

[@russelbrazil]

Without this agreement, Europe wil starve again. Mercosul does need EU

[@thiagobarbosa7905]

So europeans do not get angry when food is overpriced. You got to sustain less productive farmers.

[@NiallMcEvoy05]

Gotta love the Minecraft item icons In the illustration.

[@ulfr5347]

Only the ones who have sold their soul would agree on mercosur. It' ll only bring short term benifit for some people

[@teongreen5254]

The poor UK wont profit from anything... :)

[@Dendarang]

A quarter under 25? Who knew kids were so into international politics and diplomacy.

[@Iscannon]

I never understood why they advertised that poster as "slightly confusing"

[@tulliusexmisc2191]

I think it's a British understatement.

[@Iscannon]

@@tulliusexmisc2191 Yeah, I thought that might be the case, but it feels like they missed the mark with it. If it doesn't work on me, a British person, not sure who it would work on. I could be overthinking this.

[@jeremyquentin42]

I think what's important is: Do these Mercosur countries have carbon pricing in place, with prices comparable to the EU's? If not, then the Mercosur trade deal would be unfair competition. Food industry - and meat in particular - is carbon-intensive, and this carbon is priced in EU-produced food, but not in SA-produced. Tariffs can compensate for that lack.

[@guidogust7792]

I think competition is a good thing.

[@FoxyTheSly]

Yeah - the problem is there's too much regulation in europe and even more in France and this means that local prices are much higher and it's not possible to lower costs. It's no longer a competition when the game is rigged against the locals 😓 It's why european agriculture is fighting so hard against it.

[@EdgelordOfEdginess]

@@FoxyTheSly the solution is that south americans have to get on the same boat regarding regulations, so its nothing impossible

[@StanisławŁapiński-n9d]

Do you know that this competition is unfair because American farmers don't have to allign with strict European laws and regulations in regards to food production? What do you think will happen when American farmers will be able to produce the same product for half the price of its European counterpart?

[@panzerofthelake506]

​@@EdgelordOfEdginess or... Europe gets rid of some of its regulations

[@FoxyTheSly]

​​@@EdgelordOfEdginessfrench farmers are committing suicide today (and have been for a couple of years) Waiting till after the trade deal to change the regulations in another country "if you're lucky" - especially if that means the other country has an economic advantage not to do so is idealistic at best

[@GIobeCentral]

I havn't got the primary message: so perhaps i'm stupid. BUT, where was the base line introduction for the meat and two veg that you served to us?

[@yoannbelleville7763]

As a french, let👏 that 👏 deal 👏 be 👏 done 👏. We can better adress environemental concerns by using newly established trades as leverage. We did it for cars and food products, there's no reason we can't do it again.

[@Gustavo-vs6qy]

Sure, let's just sell it all to china who doesn't care about deflorestation at all and will even encourage our agro business mugols to do so

[@nighty9338]

As Brazilian,I Agree NO TO EU-MERCOSUR AGREEMENT

[@turkmenistan1940]

If only we had a Frexit instead of a Brexit

[@alexandredelabuissiere5330]

Both

[@stitch77100]

Losing the biggest farm and energy provider of Europe ? Not sure this would be a good thing. (And not mentioning one of the biggest weapon manufacturer, with almost all the industries you need) Plus, cutting the EU in 2 separate parts is NOT a good look. The UK has this going for them, they didn't really impact the rest of the bloc, geographically at least...

[@ChrisCrossClash]

@@stitch77100 Britain is a richer nation than France though.

[@daredonte7787]

@@ChrisCrossClashnot for more than

[@piotrsie5465]

Only Germans could come up with this idiotic idea. Germans maybe we sign deal with China for their cheap cars?

[@prplt]

I always thought Mercosur included all of South America but apparently it's just half of it 🤯

[@gastongarraza7391]

Brasil alone is more than half of it, I would say MS is around 80% of the population and gdp

[@russelbrazil]

Mercosul (portuguese) Mercorsur (Spanish) is a trade party created by Brazil and Argentina, then they added Paraguay and Uruguay. Just Brazil itself represent almost 90% of the Mercosul exports. So do no worry, only the adults are playing this game.

[@Khantia]

Macaron is already unpopular. He may as well just accept it. It's not like he can fix his image, regardless of what he does.

[@ndl8722]

I like him

[@adriapple5770]

Well, the deal is really unpopular in France. Right now, Macron being against it is quite the only thing on which most of french people agree with him. He's getting a lot of support from the farmers with this for instance.

[@Khantia]

@ndl8722 I also like him better than the alternatives, but I see him as a "political zombie" - someone who has already lost his support and is still in power only because of technicalities. Yes, the farmers may agree with him on this point, but will they vote for his party on the next elections? And even if they do - can he win the elections, when he's unpopular with everyone else.

[@adamelghalmi9771]

@@Khantia prob not, he's just the guy that's not as bad as everyone else, like the erdogan of france.

[@turkmenistan1940]

Bring on Le Pen!!

[@tonipwneroni9846]

Now THIS is 4D chess.

[@jeroen7191]

Not to be rude, rather a curious question: don't you mean that the countries' trade ministers are from the Council rather than the European Council? But nice videos man!

[@dariusgunter5344]

This would be soooo good for democracy and europe, blocking it for some few thousand farmers in the face of beenfits for millions is just plain stupid.

[@Sp_tacnik]

Everyone here benefits. Or do we want angry Mercosur liking China more than us? I am sure China would be glad to have their deal with Mercosur if EU backs out of that deal.

[@minothore7585]

C'est un cas de souveraineté, deja parce que la nourriture est un bien de 1ère nécessité et en plus les pays sur-americains n'ont clairement la même qualité de nourriture que en Europe en particulier la France qui est le plus gros pays agricole d'Europe. C'est de la concurrence déloyale avec nos propres fermiers qui doivent gerer toute les normes

[@kims4149]

When you're one of Europe agricultural powerhouses, this deal is litterally the devil incarnate...

[@Sp_tacnik]

@@minothore7585 Then create standards for other farmers as well. This seems like a stupid reason not to have a deal. Mercosur has to create quality food or it will be punished. One sentence and your farmers are covered. Why the drama?

[@minothore7585]

@Sp_tacnik oui mais le deal deviendra ininteressant dans ce cas là

[@pavel7700]

I hope so, this trade agreement is not beneficial for the Mercosul, this will destroy the remaining industry of Brazil and also increase the role of the country as a agriculture exporter, increasing the pressure for the destruction of the Amazon rainforest. With this agreement Europe is wanting to save Germany economy, but this will break our economy and cause environmental issues!

[@BercemHande]

I solely believe XAI555g will do 20x after its launch price, the hype is high and its community are not relenting.

[@gesilsampaioamarantesegund6692]

There are environmental safeguards in the deal. The french are only being protectionist. They forget to see how their incentives to agriculture disrupt the global food market, with most consequences towards Africa.

[@Dempsey13gaming]

Mais oui t'y connais rien

[@bretonneux3389]

They are no environmental safeguards on a free trade deal. It's a free trade deal, not a trade deal. There is no point pretending you care about the environment, if you sign a free trade deal. Ecology and free trade are antagonists by nature.

[@gesilsampaioamarantesegund6692]

@@bretonneux3389 a deal is defined by its clauses and by the ability to reinforce them, not by conceptions a priori.

[@bretonneux3389]

@@gesilsampaioamarantesegund6692 by definition, a free trade deal has no clauses.

[@thepax2621]

He's already "k1ll1ng" his own goverment... Why not take the trade deal with him? 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@jean-edouardahmedozzi6120]

Yo can have your trade deal, we need to get out of this monstrous EU as soon as possible

[@him_That_is_me]

1) euro farmers need to understand that they are in a completely unsustainable market. Food is so cheap and plentiful that the only reason you could ever make money on it in the eu is with subsidies motivated by a desire for strategic safety of food supply. The best solution will have to be aid for the farmers to pivot their businesses to more economically viable business models. 2) there should be European soft power in the agreement. For all people might want to bellyache about regulations, the European regulations are based in reducing emissions that contribute to direct health problems and environmental damage. With aid, helping South America reach these standards is a positive thing. 3) France can go pound sand. It is a proven fact that free and wide trade between good faith partners are a good thing for both parties. I refuse to entertain the notion that France is going to ruin the prosperity of two continents because of one failing politicians desperate grasp on power and a utterly stupid and shortsighted idea of protectionism driven by misinformation and the tyranny of a minority.

[@guidogust7792]

The deal would not be too bad.

[@Swedishpolymath]

Yeah it would just need some finetuning. I think the deal would also facilitate South American-European cooperation regarding soccer reform and development that I am working on as Alexander Julius Dahlmeier's private secretary. We are the ones (The Young Patricians) that have worked on the Ukrainian Peace Deal while Trump has been cosplaying as Ronald Reagan 2.0

[@RedLancerMoto]

@@Swedishpolymath Too bad for you that Trump will make the choice in the end.

[@Swedishpolymath]

@@RedLancerMoto You really believe that ..... why?

[@StanisławŁapiński-n9d]

I will save this comment and come back to it in 20 years when there is no more farming in Europe and all food is outsourced to other countries. When your government will have to begg on their knees to get something to eat, I'll remind you of this "not too bad deal" you voted for 20 years prior...

[@Swedishpolymath]

@@StanisławŁapiński-n9d Thank you for you comment. I will hold you accountable. I have written down you user name. The date and time you wrote it and what video it was about. I will be a big player in European politics for the rest of my life. My name is Alexander Marius von Mannheim.

[@antoslv3913]

5:32 BUT It would be praised part of meat. In the same way a scooter and a motorcycle aren't the same things, meat and meat can be very different. Those parts are valued 4 or 5 times more than the others, and are made from less than 10% of the animal... So the impact would be way greater than you think.

[@Freedmoon44]

I feel like this ENTIRE issue isnt even about Farmers, Farmers especially small farmers are dirt poor and they dont want anymore competitions. NONE can say otherwise. But the issue is because most of the price of a product comes from its subsequent treatment and transport, at least in France, theres only like 4 companies that has the monopole on the vast majority of the supply of agricultural goods, and they make insane margins on the price of the food itself thus ending up from cheap food to actually checking if you can make ends meet with that food. To get cheaper food you can either "make a Global trade contract with a cheaper supplier further straining the already uncompetitive without subsidies farmers" oooooooooooooooor you could reform the distribution system and lower the margins for those poor giants of the distribution systems who would lose 1-10% of their extra cash or smt

[@adrianchezorts]

Same here in Spain xd

[@HF7-AD]

Yeah, but that's a France problem, you're dragging the rest of Europe down with you because you can't get your own shit together

[@MovieMenno]

Whats the point in making regulations for your own farmers if you are just gonna import food from countries without them anyway...

[@agme8045]

The regulations are intended to protect the health of people living in rural communities and to protect the local environment. European water won’t be contaminated with pesticides because a farmer in Brazil uses pesticides… that being said, all EU imports must adhere to EU regulations. Food is traced to its origin and its production and handling must comply with European standards and regulations. The french are only lying to you

[@MrJacobElias]

France yelling "enviorment" to protect their own farmers from competition. They do love being the most fertile part of the EU.

[@cedricmaillard1848]

It's not only environment, we know it's not strategically smart to be DEPENDANT for food from another continent. Germans are so dumb they are ready to do the same mistake with their food than the one they did with their Russian Gaz energy supply...

[@AndersonPEM]

"A new more environmentally conscious government in Brazil" Meanwhile the forest fires and deforestation are at their worst in History [Sepulcral silence]

[@henriquejambu]

se for chorar manda audio

[@Bronze_Age_Sea_Person]

@@henriquejambu Faz o L enquanto dança no fogo

[@fernandobignardi6716]

0:34 milei looks mildly uncomfortable taking that picture tbh

[@peterfireflylund]

Of course. He is standing only three meters away from a Communist criminal nursing home patient who is doing his very best to ruin Brazil (and the rest of the world through BRICS) and who is against everything Milei stands for.

[@CorazonSargent]

Once Elon Musk's XAI555g passes $1, it may NEVER see that low again

[@markaxworthy2508]

Ahhhh..... The Joys of Qualified Majority Voting!

[@Koczu0]

ah yes, let's support only German interests xD

[@nikodemdobrenko3680]

@@Koczu0 germans have one of the lowest per capita votes in the EU.

[@cyan_oxy6734]

​@@Koczu0 Just because most western EU countries couldn't hold on to their manufacturing doesn't mean supporting industry is supporting Germany. This is a great opportunity for Czechia, Poland and "made in EU" manufacturing like in Romania or Bulgaria. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of some French.

[@Dempsey13gaming]

​@@Koczu0That's just it. Their fucking short term interest. Germany will just bring poverty to EU like they did contracting russian gas. And we all know what happened then.

[@cormacbrowne9571]

@@cyan_oxy6734 It's not just the French! Why should we in the E.U have to operate at a much higher standard and cost than our competitors. They need to operate to our standards - which they won't. A blind eye will be turned because it will suit certain countries . There is past form on Brazil for this.

[@Roky1989]

Ministers are in the Council of the EU, not in the European Council

[@georgiosioannou6464]

was looking for that comment!

[@zapfanzapfan]

I'll never buy French wine again if they ruin the deal.

[@samd6720]

The problem is that this deal will kill European farmers. There are many laws regulating agriculture here and many pesticides or chemical products that are forbidden here but allowed in Mercosur. That means we are gonna import those goods to Europe and they will be in direct competition with our farmers who will have more expensive products as they have more norms to respect

[@zapfanzapfan]

@samd6720 My farming relative has gone pure organic. Grass fed beef and no artificial pesticides or fertilizer. That's a lot stricter than even the average EU-farmer. Go for quality, not quantity.

[@allisonsp3044]

​@samd6720 Well, Mercosul doesn't have any fully industrialized country, and supposedly Europe would kill the growing industries in Mercosul. Mercosul provides food for more than 150 countries (including Europe) and all of them have different rules and requirements. Even under the same regulations European farmers would have a very hard time competing, not only because of already established techniques in mercosul, but also because of climate.

[@samd6720]

@@zapfanzapfan Yeah but you can't turn all of Europe's production in organic like this bro. Real life does not work like that

[@samd6720]

@@allisonsp3044 Which is going to be even worse if we take off all tariffs and have a free market with them without having the same regulations

[@ignacio.carral]

Protectionism harms consumers the most.

[@panzerofthelake506]

True

[@Krashnachen]

free trade harms producers, sovereignty and the planet

[@prkp7248]

No, it is not. First we are workers, than we are consumers. We want our work to be safe and we want living wage. We don’t want to compete with Latin America in how much labour rights will be taken from us.

[@Burito-tj5ry]

Protectionism is the only thing to protect you from being in competition with near slave in Asia.

[@diogorodrigues747]

@@prkp7248 It is. Proteccionism strands the economy and decreases competitiveness. Why do you think the most prosperous countries are the ones based on a free market, export oriented economy? Leave your conservative/nationalist/marxist bubble and face reality.

[@id2ii]

As a Brazilian I hope the French block this deal.

[@nighty9338]

Eu também torço para que o acordo seja anulado

[@russelbrazil]

under dog, shame on you.

[@russelbrazil]

@@nighty9338 vira lata

[@twistedsteeltv6130]

I sure hope Starmer is going to increase relations with the EU. The UK could have been benefiting from this too 🙃

[@MN-vz8qm]

Reading the comments, and being French, I do agree that the accord might be signed anyway, but I can predict that this will backfire on the EU. Indeed, the French are isolated in their hostility to this deal at a time when globalization is viewed very negatively in France, between ecological concerns over intercontinental free trade and anger over deindustrialization (symbolized by the disastrous case of Alstom’s sale to a U.S. company, or the struggles to produce even basic medical supplies during COVID). The EU itself is also viewed with growing resentment, particularly because French people, with their historically cheap nuclear energy, feel forced to subsidize Germany’s poor energy choices through the common energy price system. This frustration is compounded by over a decade of perceived German diktats following the 2008 financial crisis, which led to prolonged economic stagnation in Europe. While the rest of the world adopted Keynesian policies to recover, Germany’s priority was protecting its retirees' savings accounts from inflation-at the cost of growth across the continent (of course when Germany finally started to get impacted themselves, the EU changed course on teh subject). This deal will only deepen the perception that France’s sovereignty and economic interests are being sacrificed for others’ benefit by a caste of pro-European elites who seem indifferent to the French people (as Macron famously said, "there is no such thing as French culture"). If these frustrations are ignored, they will fuel Eurosceptic movements, making a Frexit referendum after 2027 a very real possibility.

[@reaperz5677]

The EU is about sacrifice - we all make compromises for the greater good of all of us. That's literally the point of the EU, and it's what everyone signed up for when we joined the Union. It's the entire point of the Union. Don't like it? Leave, but don't be surprised when France becomes poorer/more corrupt. France is already unstable as is, imagine if they didn't have to comply to EU anti-corruption policies.

[@filtheski1509]

France is not isolated. Poland and most of Central European countries are against it too

[@Czeslaw_cn4tv]

Not sure who should be happy about this? We're going to get flooded with poor quality food which doesn't conform to EU agricultural standards (which EU farmer have to adhere to!). Absolutely mad.

[@nicolasflores8544]

Any food sold in the EU has to adhere to EU food standards. And if the food is of poor quality, then the farmers have nothing to worry about.

[@Czeslaw_cn4tv]

@nicolasflores8544 the imported food can be used as intermediate goods (and that's how it'll probably be sold), leaving no trace of origin and probably norms as well. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[@nicolasflores8544]

@Czeslaw_cn4tv It depends on the product (meat can be sold directly, soy not so much), but yes, a lot of it will be used as an intermediate product. But again, food sold in the EU, both when its sold for consumption or as an ingredient, has to meet EU requirements. MERCOSUR already sells a lot of food to Europe.

[@gabrieldesennacorrea3611]

Saying Brasil now has an environmentaly friendly government (that was part of their political campaign) while the rates of deforestation is I'm an all-time high is a big show of lack of research

[@Michalosnup]

That is not not true, deforestation in Brazil is quite low now compared to previous years. Deforestation as a whole is all-time high, but specifically in Brazil it is slowing down considerably.

[@larissamello374]

Deforestation fell by 35% in a very short period. Problem are in the wildfires. The hottest year in our history, we were not prepared.

[@allisonsp3044]

​@@Michalosnup Wildfires don't count as deforestation in statistics, but they have increased more in area than the lowering deforestation levels.

[@mattoni553]

I really hope this deal is gonna happen

[@electricangel4488]

French ussing the Eu too screw the compition. Say it aint so.

[@CarpeDiem13x]

Germans using the EU to screw Europe, once again ! Russian gas, French nuclear energy...

[@stitch77100]

It ain't so ;) Unless you like beef hormone and deforestation...

[@samd6720]

Well, unfair competition between European farmers who have much more norms to respect and much more pesticides or chemical products that are forbidden compared to South American farmers has to be screwed for sure.

[@naapsuvaimne740]

people who posting here dosent undertsand SH1T , ARE IN south america same regulation like in the eu? i guess not so stop moaning

[@BoogsterSugar]

I'm worried that the deal will deepen the hardships we face in South America on our strive to industrialize.

[@PHRCpvh]

1:57 "Environmentaly concious" LMAAAOOO Dude, we had broken the record of deforestation by forest fires in the new administration, so much that it made Shell look like Captain Planet. You forgot (or ignored) that fact that since it took power, Lula started buying waaay more oil from Putin, basically financing Russia's military, apart from leaning more into the BRICS group, which weaked the effects of NATO's support on Ukraine. Also, France is now facing issues as French Africa started siding with Putin, which damaged they supply of uranium, to which Brazil might compensate.

[@jonathaslopes8038]

Obrigado!

[@lcg3092]

"Dude, we had broken the record of deforestation by forest fires in the new administration, so much that it made Shell look like Captain Planet." Deforastation is down, that is a basic fact. I still think the new administration does not do enough, but that doesn't change the facts. "French Africa" didn't start "siding with Putin", those countries sided with itself and against colonialism.

[@artiefakt4402]

@@lcg3092 They are about to experience China's or Russia's colonialism instead... and western nation should stop development & humanitarian fundings in Africa, if they want to be left alone, so be it !

[@chpsilva]

Brazil doesn't buy oil from Russia though. It economically doesn't even make sense, at least not when you make frontiers with Venezuela. *EDIT* However... after checking it seems Brazil is indeed buying a lot of cheap diesel (not crude oil though) from Russia since 2022. Damn.

[@ecthelion7]

the amount we buy from russia is almost insignificant compared to how much west europe still buys from them; although mostly through third party countries. so we are far from financing them. we just took an oportunity to buy goods at a cheaper price. witch one would be stupid not to.

[@xmun2450]

This will be fantastic for Brazil and is long over due, Products here are terrible and expensive this will hopefully create more competition and bring prices down. Whilst it will be bad for some big Brazilian manufacturers that have been taking advantage by selling low quality products at a very high price. I dont think Europe has anything to worry about because the products that Brazil produces well ( Meat ) is generally pretty average in Europe and the products that Europe produces well ( cheese and wine ) is pretty bad and exspensive in Brazil

[@pandoraeeris7860]

Macron is a cookie.

[@silviasanchez648]

If the concern is food quality and environment that's easy to fix. Import only what is acceptable under EU regulations (as it's already the norm) and create programmes to encourage governments in Mercosur (specially Brazil) to care for the environment. Set goals and standards and buy only from sources that meet the criteria. There are 5 countries and thousands of producers and manufacturers to choose from, I'm sure it can be sorted with some thinking.

[@alioshax7797]

Implementing criteria is easy, and planned in the Mercosur deal. What's much harder is to check if these standards are met by the local farmers, if the said farmers operate in another sovereign country, which may not have much incentive (as it would be expensive, detrimental to food prices and politically unpopular) to actually impose the said rules. Opponents to the deal argue that it will be a "China style" agreement, with the other part agreeing to every aspects of the deal on paper, yet delay or even fight it's actual implementation.

[@franug]

yeah, free trade deals can work as soft law, imposing these standards in the other countries. That's what has happened in Chile at least (we've had a free trade deal with the EU since 2003); our food standards are pretty high...maybe not as high as Europe proper, sure, but high enough to comply with the deal and exporting tons of produce there.

[@allisonsp3044]

​@@alioshax7797 Brazil alone follow rules and requirements of more than 150 countries and ALL of them are already checking Brazilian farms.

[@alioshax7797]

@@allisonsp3044 The Mercosur - EU agreement comprises a reaffirmation of a Brazilian comittment to a complete stop of Amazonian deforestation by 2030. This is, by all accounts, highly unrealistic. Deforestation in Brazil actually accelerated since 2011, and with this new deal, agriculture will likely become even more profitable, adding incentive for brazilian farmers to expand cultivated land. It will never be met. Which mean Europe is making a deal on commitments which will not be held. And European consumers will finance Amazonian deforestation. That's just one example. Europe may be not good on many topics, but we're good (too good for our own sake) at regulating stuff. And no country on Earth has regulation as tight as Europe, far from it. I doubt brazilian farmers, or any other South American ones, has the will to apply them. Why would they ? It would be expensive, hurt their income and practices, while they can just pretend, and no European official will ever check on them.

[@LucianoCortes-gr2or]

yes please.

[@1987Aguiar]

23:59 “A new government in Brazil more environmental friendly” 00:00 “use Ground News, for unbiased media” Mate Brazil’s deforestation has skyrocketed since Lula took power.

[@lcg3092]

source?

[@joao-paulo-santos2]

Lies

[@krasorx]

Its crazy how the media burried the story . Thats is why i only read la derecha diario

[@nikitatarsov5172]

As Ursula was called 'stabile', she's into political leadership for reasons that seem pretty popular these days - not be in jail. We in GER desperatly just wait for her to be back.

[@agme8045]

in Argentina the cheapest cuts of beef are 5€/kg. You can get entrecôte and filet mignon for around 10€/kg. For the more premium quality beef prices are similar to Europe, but the non-premium is still very very good and tasty.

[@jean-edouardahmedozzi6120]

and that's how you ruin an economy, by allowing goods that are produced by people whose wages are like 3% of what's needed in our countries to make a decent living to flood the market bUt pRoTecTioNisM iS bAd gUyS

[@xr2kid]

As we are still dealing with the Fallout of the NAFTA era yall go and do this??

[@knoll9812]

Not similar. There are not millions of cheap workers just across a border.

[@unstoppable5357]

​@@knoll9812True, our immigrants just collect welfare and do sleep

[@shyuw6473]

Calling Lula’s government “environmentally conscious” is absurd. This government is breaking deforestation records every year. This year the whole country from the Amazon to São Paulo was catching fire. Victims of the foods in Rio Grande do Sul have also not received help from the government, even though they’re one of the states that contributes the most to the economy

[@henriquejambu]

se for chorar manda audio

[@TiagoSouza2501]

The EU is the one that gains the most from this agreement. They would sell industrialized products and receive cheap food.

[@davidmarkwort9711]

The French will want more subsidies for their farmers, otherwise the deal will go through, it would create jobs and give the EU an alternative to the US and Russia, also the Chinese will lose out. It is one of the best deals the EU has ever made.

[@diogorodrigues747]

@@davidmarkwort9711 The deal will go through anyways. If France is opted out that's another story...

[@GermanTopGameTV]

@@diogorodrigues747 I don't think that is actually an option. The flow of goods within the EU is not restricted at national boarders, so there will be little france can do to stop importers shipping goods to ports in Spain, loading it on trucks and then delivering to customers in France. "But it needs to be labeled!!" - True, but this argument relies on the misconception that the customers care about the origin. They care mostly about price. That's why china sells so much cheap garbage - because it is cheap. The only one who cares in majority about the source is the seller. The people overall would prefere lower prices and buy imported over home grown foods if that meant they get to save money. That said, the trade deal is a massive opportunity to excel at what Europe is great at. We just need to accept that highly developed nations are not compatitive in the agriculture sector and stop trying to make that work. It gives poorer nations some leverage, because they will produce a critical resource for richer nations - but I don't see that as a bad thing. It might actually get our politicians to care about the concerns of poorer nations, helping them develop and form long lasting relationsships with us. That's where we should go, start to unite the world, rather then thinking within our borders.

[@alioshax7797]

@@diogorodrigues747 France cannot be "opted out". Given the open borders within Europe, any trade deal involving one European country must be also implemented by all. Otherwise, that would mean the end of the common European market, as the country "left out" would remplement controls on goods entering its soil from another European country. That would mean the end of the EU, pretty much. Especially if the member in question is France, its 2nd largest economy and only major military power left. The real challenge will be for Brussels to convince Paris to work it out. Which will happen at some point, although not without some internal compensations in favor of France.

[@Skantezz]

@@GermanTopGameTV People may care less about origin when buying a piece of clothing, but in my experience they care quite a lot when buying fresh produce that they are going to put in their body.

[@Bramfly]

Not only the French, the Netherlands has objections as well.

[@diogorodrigues747]

@@Bramfly France, The Netherlands and Poland basically. Italy will pass because of Argentina.

[@daanwolters3751]

the netherlands literally elected the farmers lobby and trump 2.0 in office, dont expect anything sensible from them for now

[@tomas9830]

As an argetinian, please make it happen PLEASE

[@mihailrangelov8343]

Bunch of French farmers blocking free trade between 700 million people for 25 years is insane.

[@iamothemakhnovist20]

hope they continue

[@reaperz5677]

@@iamothemakhnovist20 Hope they don't. Entitled farmers fucking over 700 million people because they're too lazy to innovate is not good for anyone but the entitled and lazy farmers.

[@samd6720]

In the video he said that farmers from many European countries are protesting. It's not only In France that people are skeptical about this deal

[@abuanwp]

That is the negative area of EU, you can't struck a deal for the good of your country if other members can't agree on it.

[@CroissantMoon]

why the hell are you using the Mercator projection

[@dlugi4198]

So it's good in every way, only it screws french farmers. So it's good in every way

[@samd6720]

It screws European farmers actually, didn't you hear when he said that European farmers went all in protests ? You are gonna import products that don't respect half of the regulations that are imposed on European farmers. It's borderline crazy at this point

[@jean-edouardahmedozzi6120]

Literally get lost Frexit as soon as possible You can drown in EU bureaucracy and migrants all you want after that, Italian

[@jujuba5487]

Good luck on your health 😂