Can NVIS still Work with High noise floors?

Welcome to Backcountry Amateur Radio. I was able to get out and participate in a quick demo with Kevin, K7SW and try to find him and two other stations in the 40 meter band using Near Vertical Incidence Skywave techniques. The Ionispheric conditions were awful, but not horrific. There were times that communications worked out.
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[@hamradiowithkevin]

DUDE!! This was really fun, thank you for being available and for making this video. I hope we can do this again over the summer. we were all using 1/2 wave endfeds this time. Really great to see you on this video. 73

[@backcountryamateurradio]

Kevin, thanks for putting this exercise together. It was a super fun time. So we all had end-fed's? To be honest, I wasn't sure that mine was going to radiate enough power to work! Catch you next time! 73

[@davidnelson6889]

Great to see a new video Eric. Even thought the bands were not cooperating super well, the fact is you were still able to connect with only 5 watts. That is always impressive. Thanks for sharing.

[@backcountryamateurradio]

Thank you David! Also, thank you for being part of it. I'm still curious what I could have done to be heard better at your location. I couldn't believe how well I came through at the SDR site. I changed antenna height, direction, etc, but really no change in propagation. It was a super fun time though. Can't wait to do that again. 73

[@Cr0cket20]

Great data point and very relevant to my situation and location. Was just playing with NVIS in the Uintas last weekend. Video was well put together.

[@backcountryamateurradio]

I love the Uintas! Were you able to make contact? Thanks for your feedback! I tried to collect some footage but didn't get too serious with it this time around. 73 - KI7WJP

[@Cr0cket20]

@backcountryamateurradio yes. First night was noisy and rough to get out. Next day checked into a couple of Utah nets. Did call out randomly twice but nothing from those. Worked 20 and 40.

[@backcountryamateurradio]

@@Cr0cket20 What a great experience! I'm actually headed there tonight. However, with it being ARRL Field Day I'm not going to mess around with HF. NVIS for the win though. Another time would be neat to connect with you. 73

[@TheGiantFuton]

Glad to see this video drop and it is good motivation for me. I’m right there with ya, haven’t hopped on HF in a while. I like working NVIS in the Smoky Mountains because it provides good coverage in the terrain. Certainly a better alternative than VHF/UHF though with trade offs. Always enjoy the videos you post! Keep it up! GF

[@backcountryamateurradio]

Thanks for checking it out! I imagine that NVIS would work well out there. In our mountains, it's drastically more effective especially if you have a planned contact! Great tool for a backcountry comms guy! Thanks again for your comment! - 73 KI7WJP

[@Deathloec]

greetings from AZ as well. Did an activation on strawberry mountain last year. That was a doozy . cheers kj7vcm

[@backcountryamateurradio]

Man, I hope you at least used a motorcycle to get up there! That's a really isolated area. I am considering a winter activation there. Cheers! and thanks for stopping by the channel! 73 KI7WJP

[@backcountrybowhunting4940]

NVIS is a great and practical option. I wonder how the digital modes would work with NVIS in a high noise floor environment.

[@backcountryamateurradio]

Thanks for your comment. I think that digital would do far better. I would like to try that in the field. My home station, when it was operable, had an S9+ noise floor but I was able to connect on platforms like FT8, JS8, and intermittently Winlink. Have you had much experience with that? 73 KI7WJP

[@backcountrybowhunting4940]

@@backcountryamateurradio I have experience with digital modes except not in an NVIS config. My home QTH EFHW is set up in the trees, but in theory, it should work fine. I'm near Colorado Springs and would love to NVIS with you, although we may be too far for that. 73, N1ROG