Can OG Do It AGAIN?! - Grubby Reacts To TRUE SIGHT 2019!

[@wahyue3371]

Watching Grubby Dota 2's journey is really blessing for Dota community. Please Valve dont let this man go.

[@FollowGrubby]

Really appreciate the compliment mate!

[@Omrxx]

I play LoL, haven't touched warcraft 3 or Dota in ages. Grubbys change to Dota has been amazing. He is a treat.

[@teacfowler6824]

@@FollowGrubby if every player was like you, then this would be the perfect game

[@fifofuko1864]

@@teacfowler6824 it already is

[@teacfowler6824]

@@fifofuko1864 fair enough

[@4X10S]

Roro - the woman in their team is a psychologist, she used to work with CS:GO Astralis team as well. She usually helps them to control their emotions and overcome bad habits like getting mad or tilted.

[@crookedlycrooked9256]

Topson change from TI8 to TI9 is massive. U can see the confidence in his bearing and his playstyle.

[@dragonbane44]

yeah, TI8 was his first ever tournament. Anyone will be nervous.

[@ar.michael8306]

From hero to villain

[@inflam3]

@@dragonbane44 fr man. Those who insulted Topson during TI8 are dumbasses. Imagine getting yelled at at work for not doing it right when it's your first time.

[@bergerman487]

From Topson to Chadson. IMO, Topson and Jerax were MVP in Ti9

[@Vince-tt1uj]

He became a Bond Villain.

[@floreaciprian9742]

Glad you finally got into Dota mate. These 2 ti's were so damn epic and massive kudos for the producers of True Sight. They trully did an oustanding job P.S. you should also check both teams reacting to this True SIght togheter. Very good vibes and very wholesome

[@MM-vs2et]

A friend of mine in a film class said that they had to watch True Sight for her class. It really is a 10/10 doc

[@tekiero]

@@MM-vs2et lmao

[@iPlayDotaReligiously]

@@MM-vs2et srsly? so cool!

[@SamuelHauptmannvanDam]

43:30 I think they were one of the few teams that had a sports psychologist on their team. The same as Astralis. And I truly think it made a huge difference, because they are by far, the best team to come back into the game. It's also the person you asked about here: 1:16:00

[@tni333]

I love the ingame cinematics they do for these

[@FollowGrubby]

Totally agree, it's so unique!

[@fartloudYT]

@@FollowGrubby you missed a pretty good one when you were checking on your cat.

[@jahanzaibkhan4018]

People create these animations and dota has a contest for it, right now best voted animation gets 25k$

[@troy10troytroy]

Ti9 Io was revered as the hidden carry gem that only OG was able to utilize to its Max. They were able to destroy top-tier carry-mid picks at the time. If i remember correctly when they first showcased the IO carry, teams were legit scared of it, that IO was only been picked by OG 6 times (correct me if im wrong) after it. And they went 6-0 afterwards. OG got a decently wide pool with meta defying drafts. They can also play heroes in different roles like their pugna (2, 4, or 3). Like team Liquid, teams were really confused, that eventually led to their loss.

[@ar.michael8306]

Back in the days were Io carry was the most pick in rank games in 2019

[@ashwinnair1092]

I believe one other team also played it as carry in one game (I think it was Secret) and won. But yeah, OG were the first team to showcase it and they played it the most.

[@joshieeT]

@@ashwinnair1092 i believe secret picked IO carry again and then lost to nigma.

[@leonardogonzalesiii7356]

@@ashwinnair1092 Secret played carry Io twice at ti9. Liquid beat them their Io carry.

[@midgardprint7365]

@@ar.michael8306 Before ti or after? it wasn't most picked before ti9

[@parham1023]

I found you from reddit, and I must say: you are probably one of the best things happening to this community. Keep up the good work mate.

[@MykoQui]

I really love Grubby’s insight on both of the teams’ dialogues. Feels like learning how to be a better leader.

[@floreaciprian9742]

I really liked how this showed the difference in team mentalities. For Liquid they had Kuro that took all decisions and carried all the burden of decisions, while for OG they simply trusted each other and went with anyone's decision. It was the same in TI8... someone makes a call and they're all like Ok bro we got your back. Just go for it

[@janosch7210]

Basically democracy (most OG players come from westerner social democracies) vs. aristocracy/ monarchy (most liquid players are from middle east with some aristocratic elites and a king). One is a well spread complex system with different players. Yes, communication could take longer because more ppl involved, see spec holding buyback in game one. Perfect example. But information flows nicely both bottom up and top down in the power hierarchies, leading to a overall better quality in both acess to information and information in general. The other one is a centralised system, where the one on top has the responsability and does most of the talking. See Kuro 'just focus, let me do the talking' after game 1. Good example aswell. Information normally flows top down. Bottom up information is rather blocked, because its read as a attack for the one on top, since his power could be questioned.

[@enha6008]

since Liquid is portrayed rather badly for the sake of the storyline, two things to keep in mind: a) apart from w33, this team was (and still is) the team that has played together the longest. they love and trust each other so much. b) they already came from a very stressful lower bracket finals before these games. they did a lower bracket run and therefor played way more games than OG. plus OG looked super dominant that TI. so they came into the finals being exhausted and stressed and have to face a super strong opponent. just adding that to cut Liquid some slack and give some perspective

[@idlemindedmage6925]

Thank you for the perspective!

[@chrome450]

The lower bracket excuse is lame. Team spirit came from lower bracket so as this team liquid. Both win the TI.

[@enha6008]

@@chrome450 this exact team liquid won TI7 by making a lower bracket run. that doesn't change the fact it is the harder route to go. kuroky himself said they were exhausted in the finals.

[@jrbudoybudoy]

Well to be honest they're not portrayed badly in the film. It's just that what Kuro said back then was really not the right thing to say when in intense situations.

[@amazing00019]

Unfortunately for the Liquid boys, Kuroky chocked the most in these finals ... he would not listen to his teammates at all. GH had good calls, MC had good insights for the picks, Miracle had good instincts and to some degree it felt like w33 was not counted in the decisions that much or let to speak his thoughts. They all we're shut down because Kuroky wanted to make himself heard and he never wanted to listen

[@willwilliamson9580]

sometimes i think about how fun valve makes dota and then i think about how blizzard handled sc2 and i cry a little bit.

[@sh1ro9]

Don't worry. Dota players think Valve is also doing an absolute nut job as well.

[@rnkishi]

yeah a good thing that dota escaped blizzard haha

[@pluckyleon6640]

Don't worry, Valve is going the Blizzard Trajectory too rn. Riot is only the one growing and pushing their games and scene consistently.

[@xLuye]

Last time I checked you still had to pay for heros and other core game mechanics in LoL? There's was never any of that crap in dota, and still isn't. Wouldnt riot be closer to Blizz trajectory?

[@SuperThunderPanda]

whats wrong witgh sc2

[@ryans167]

OG has such an awesome story. N0tail and fly were best friends and long time teammates on that team, but fly left and joined EG since OG wasnt winning. OG banded up this group together almost last minute with crazy talent out of no where in topson and ana, and with mastermind ceb they ended up beating EG and fly. N0tails death stare after the game became an iconic meme, and now OG is the first 2 time TI winners in spectacular fashion

[@faian000re]

Your Dota2 content is so good! The way you tackle this game as a 'noob' with your professional eye, competitive mindset and refreshing spirit is a treat for all of us.

[@kristianpomida8259]

Ceb and Jerax were the undeniable mvps of Ti8. For Ti9, without a shadow of a doubt it was Topson. He made liquid his bitch

[@niqueko1414]

For ti8 ana and jerax.. for ti9 topson and ana

[@aronjoshuasantiago4063]

@@niqueko1414 ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb

[@RuRu0091]

@@niqueko1414jeraxx for the win I main 1/3 but i can tell u having better support is life changing No matter how good the core if the support is bad its still gonna turn into bad lane real fast U just cant tell in archon to ancient rank cuz everyone there just play support for role q, xD

[@sLogOG]

Kuro is deffinetly a Hall of Famer in Dota. After all these years him saying "You trusted me but I failed you" as a leader of the team is actually so strong and tells a lot when you think about it.

[@critical0017]

Finally I've been waiting for this for so long thanks grubby

[@FollowGrubby]

At your service! :D

[@198sambrrs]

Man, Ceb is such a good leader for their team. I don't think they have anything close to this success without his iron mental and always knowing what to say to shore up his team's mental.

[@EyebrowsGaming]

Johan was the carrot, and in a way Sebastian was the stick, in the most positive sense

[@Vaibhav221B]

The IO carry was a low MMR start.Ana came up with it in 3k pub games with his friends.Then he brought it to TI.

[@aristotleisarocker]

And it was so frickin successful 48-8 then 6-0 in the whole the international. That 8 loss maybe they didnt have a good synergy with the other heroes but that was too high percentage

[@oneswagman9426]

This is where Flopson become Godson. Man is a beast. Oh also ana, the man who buffed fountain. Lmao What a monster duo.

[@NoOne4k]

Just wanted to clarify that OGs draft in the last game was completly wicked. They were the only team that could play IO as a carry and they basically invented the strategy in the tournament so no team had time to figure out a counter. They completely reversed the roles, Gyro the typical hardcarry was midlane to create space for the IO who is typically a support to the Gyro

[@Redruiza]

And in the next TI, PSG LGD doing OG thing to set the meta with lycan tiny, but the curse was still there, THE Finals game Curse for PSG LGD. Get rekt by magnus collapse.

[@johnalbeygulle8830]

@@Redruiza Hmmm tiny lycan was already meta really in high MMR games unlike this IO carry that just appeared from nowhere

[@luandwd]

@@johnalbeygulle8830 it was in ranked SEA

[@ZealothPL]

LGD was stubborn and lost deservedly, they watched collapse magnus completely obliterate lycan tiny from other teams and for some reason tried that crap on their last chance at winning

[@RuRu0091]

Yeah io seems good But they already winning before io got his timing, topson diffu is just way too good and noone really anticipated it Io still good today but u need ur teamate, so in pubs ......

[@bibobnest]

these 2 True Sight you streamed are so entertaining to watch. You just started Dota but you're no stranger to ESport competition which makes your input throughout the video so insightful and relatable. I can't wait for the TI10 True Sight so I can watch it myself, then watch Team Spirit react to it, then watch you react to it lmao

[@RuRu0091]

Even i that just watch true sihht know what kuroky said is really really bad He said to mc play like cebb, like why would he said? Why not said just farm ur item more Kuroky doesnt even respect any of his teammate input at all, like they litterally ask to ban ember several times I mean weeha pretty much done with ta after that game 2 but kuroky keep saying ta is good

[@miloufromsaigon]

I think you are the perfect person to point out the differences between two teams, mentally. It was so polarised I felt bad for Liquid. If they had Ceb factor between games, we could have had a legendary series.

[@karannashine9526]

I don’t know why KZbin started recommending me Grubby but I’m so glad it did. Been playing since 2014 but it’s so nice to see someone so positive discover the joy of starting this game fresh.

[@paabeatz]

Would love to see Grubby as a coach for a team some day. While he lacks some Dota knowledge (yet), he understands how important little nuances of what team members say and how they act with each other are. Both teams in this final had awesome players but Ceb was a way better coach than Kuro in this case. That won them the series imo.

[@FollowGrubby]

I don’t think I could coach like Ceb

[@Remeroska]

@@FollowGrubby you can coach like only Grubby can

[@paabeatz]

@@FollowGrubby Coaching like grubby is probably also still really good :)

[@carson8074]

“I just need Grubby to coach like 7uckingmad.”

[@jigzo78]

@@carson8074 lmao

[@irfandihan1601]

What a time to get into DOTA. The magical month of DOTA Esports starts. True Sight dropping soon, Ti just around the corner, the time of the year when the dota players are actually happy. Feels Good Man.

[@facundoorzabal8021]

I absolutely love the insight of someone who has been at that level of competition. I'm enjoying this a lot, and I do not even play dota or moba games!

[@romelramirez4207]

20:58 Exactly what I was thinking. Ceb went on to tell the staff on their smoke break that he made a small mistake, which I think he was referring to that buyback but they were the ones who told Ana not to do so. He already informed the team earlier that he wanted to buyback so he can help with the base defense.

[@Jason-jb3xt]

"I'm not playing finals without my chat wheel" omg love it

[@snaykey]

Great content, happy to rewatch True Sight alongside Grubby and even happier he is playing Dota 2 now! Really hope Valve gets him involved somehow at TI

[@eun974]

I laughed so hard at grub's example: "it's like ohh I broke my leg... Great... I like pain" xD

[@bartholomewjames1003]

Someone pointed this before but in 1:11:55, Ceb says " they will chase". Jerax then says "there's no chase" to which Ceb replies "Yes, they're desperate". It just shows both Ceb and Jerax mental awareness of the game. Ceb knew Liquid was desperate, and they will try to chase out of desperation to salvage the game. Which Liquid did do. Meanwhile Jerax knows its over. Even if they chase, they will lose. Which also came true.

[@ejicint]

Now this is a good read from that interaction

[@ItTakesTimeToBeGood]

Man when I initially watched this true sight I thought kuro was actually pretty awesome with the motivational stuff. But the way you debunked that with reason has opened my eyes to a whole new level of thinking. You are a gem to Dota community man. Love you! ❤️

[@SheepyPanda95]

Been watching your WC3 games and watched your tournament games too. And now you're also playing and DotA 2, the only game I've given like 2/3 of my life (I'm 27 yrs old and haven't played DotA for like 5yrs but I still follow anything about DotA 2). I hope you continue and enjoy your DotA 2 journey. P.S. Valve should take care of Grubby or else, I will wish that every toilet in Valves' office gets clogged and floods the bathroom.

[@triptip00]

Grubby, you should probably watch a DOTA short called "The International Archives - The Buyback". It happend in TI by Ana which maybe one of the most underrated plays in that tournament.

[@FuNoK83]

ty.. just watched it... Ana is a beast... and he is so calm and handsome... unbelivable dude...

[@triptip00]

@@FuNoK83 agree. I hope him and topson will elevate T1 team and take the aegis home :)

[@chrisg8989]

These videos are edited excellently. 👌

[@FollowGrubby]

100%

[@unknown50ct]

Legit, almost movie like quality

[@IndianTelephone]

Truesight is incredible from Valve, I literally had no idea Ceb is such a good mentor. I mean I get hyped up to play every time I watch his speeches to Og. I really wanna see how Xiao8 coaches his team,

[@Larph13]

This new OG is definitely strong but we can’t be sure. TI has a history of strong teams throughout the year and falling short on the big stage. The first iteration of OG with Miracle failed to win in TI after dominating the majors before TI. We can only watch.

[@sieg8036]

OG was predicted to never get into quarters in 2018, look at them now

[@ejmedallo8098]

the thing about TI is that when the Team is favored to win, they are gonna fall short like for example that OG with Miracle and PSG.LGD... the only team to break this curse was the TI9 OG.. It was just the most dominant team ever.. stomping pro teams.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

Miracle is the best dota player of all time, he was the first to reach over 9000 mmr xD

[@BruhMeme85]

@@ejmedallo8098 og wasn't favoured tho. People were shitting on them saying their previous win was a fluke The one team who was favoured for winning was wings From the very beginning they were dominating everyone and everyone watching can tell Their only loses were throw away games because they decided to play Pudge for God knows what reason

[@ejmedallo8098]

@@BruhMeme85 only a few people were saying they wer a fluke and it was more of a meme already after their strength showcase at the group stage. Nobody doubted them in the main stage. They were the Team to beat with their unique meta (Tide mid, IO carry, etc), left and right BM plays and ofcourse, the fountain diving. TI9 OG exudes pure dominance... and still the best team to have ever ran TI.

[@JJWW]

I really like how Grubby instantly recognizes the differences in communication between the teams. I know a lot of people kept mentioning how Kuro is 'the calmest guy' and stuff, but in the end I think when he reflects on it he'll realize that he handled some of the things a tad poorly. In general they really (from the limited footage we get) seemed to pile the pressure on W33ha, when he was the most inexperienced member of the team who always felt like the odd one out already (because he wasn't 'part of the squad'). I think also a nice nuance (that Grubby might not know) is how Miracle used to play with OG, with N0tail and Seb (as coach) and was incredibly succesful, so he understands a lot about how they think about the game and the way they want to play. I think it played quite a big part in Miracle being able to make a few calls on what OG was going to pick, for example the Ember pick, where Kuro at that moment (probably due to the stress) wasn't really open to using the full potential of the knowledge around him. You can also see this with their coach RMN, who honestly had a great read on the games, but for whatever reason (again probably due to stress) Kuro just wasn't open to his comments. I think Liquid were up against it, because OG looked completely unbeatable with a vast amount of different strategies and drafts throughout the tournament. Nobody ever looked close to their level this TI. It was a great TI and I hope we get more entertainment like it in the future!

[@yomamafat1014]

Amer is not w33ha. It’s miracle. W33ha is Omar

[@JJWW]

@@yomamafat1014 You're right, I just glanced over this too quickly.

[@caocao4588]

0:51 really like how they are all smiling, what a wholesome finals

[@maven9867]

Watching this TI final's true sight is really hard for me man. Back then, those 2 teams were my favorite, seeing them fighting in the grand final is both a joy and uncomfortable feeling. Your reaction and thoughts however is more interesting than the true sight lmao, have just discovered you just like you've discovered dota :))

[@Carl_ti]

I love kuro, for always saying " thank HIM okay" .

[@adriananthonydeguia736]

21:59 best bit. thanks for the reaction my dude

[@akkayeps7867]

Grubby is so happy, he instantly smiles 1:03:36

[@monstercat8231]

You should watch OG's sponsor's (Red Bull) documentary about them. It's titled 'Against The Odds' Incredible inside story about the players and their journey from zeroes to heroes!

[@dragynn9762]

He already watched it a few days ago

[@R1mTVch]

@@dragynn9762 twitch vod?

[@x0-x0]

Is it? I wanna watch his reaction. Really enjoy his reaction on true sight ti8

[@RichyRich2607]

@@dragynn9762 He replied to another comment that he wants to watch it. So what you say can't be true

[@j0nasbs]

@@RichyRich2607 I saw him watching it. They will probably post here eventually.

[@yellowflash511]

Now watch ti7 true sight for context between old liquid and og

[@goink3368]

Really should have watched the TI7 one first tbh. Makes for a good trilogy

[@ingsunpasrah]

Ti7 the best ti ever

[@yellowflash511]

@@goink3368 true

[@icecrown7324]

It's really weird I kept watching you even after I left Wc3 for dota and somehow now you're playing dota so much

[@SundaraRamanR]

It's funny how much of a "respect" front Ceb puts up for the documentary, given how toxic he is in every other communication inside and outside the game 😄

[@hgdias4952]

It is a mental game

[@arvie9242]

Dota is really a sick mental game, I could relate heavily. When my enemy always use chatwheels, tips and sprays I know I'm getting fucked and lose confidence. Really hard game to be honest

[@p1etroosha]

The legend watching the legends. I love the insight and jokes.. pointing out the mistakes in Kuroky's coaching and agree with Ceb motivation of the team gives another look at this masterpiece of a movie. Thanks Grubby

[@stenmin1234]

Focusing on the positives is so key. There are studies, notably with tennis players practicing serving. Split into two groups - one group was coached on only what they were doing wrong and the group coached on what they were doing well. The positive focus group improved more by an overwhelming amount.

[@shlebben0]

i still cant believe the level of change, in terms of looks and attitude, between TI8 Topson and TI9 Topson

[@haziqmazri4563]

Topson become Chadson

[@seidenstickerj]

Grubby is the best thing that happened to this community in a long time. Wholesome af! Thx for giving our favourite hate-love a try mate!

[@UMCmetal]

58:00 had me laughing so hard lol :D Grubby best

[@Degenerate_o7]

Caught your dota stream by chance the other week and it has been so refreshing to watch your journey this far. Love this game and love when new people get to experience it for what it can be

[@lifekrysiss]

"what do we do now" "I mean, we can eat" Miracle is too pure man, gotta love the guy

[@Xrektt]

Grubby, honestly, for a long time I have been enjoying your WC3 matches and now, it is so good to see you experience the same thing we, DOTA2 (since DOTA1) players were experiencing, to see you feel the same thing we felt during TI´s. PS: looking forward to your ongoing journey through DOTA2 heroes. :)

[@MaxingMix]

grubby i really like the way you explicitly point out the mental game of ceb, makes me appreciate him more

[@Jupex]

If you're interested, OG Against the Odds redbull video is pretty awesome too, it gives such a cool look on Notails, and also other OG members, history.

[@bahayess4975]

Grubby, my man! I've never heard about you before u came to dota. But the fact that even russian community leave good comments about your personality got me shook. You know it's reeealy hard to make russki ppl like you and I got curious and checked you out myself. Now i see why even soaked in toxicity russian community respects you. I love your positivity about life and your highly developed analytical skills. Shows the warcraft impact

[@elijahvillaflor7928]

You’re a wholesome reactor. My sub doesn’t do justice. You need way more. Thank you for your content, and may the subs and likes keep on coming

[@dimensius8610]

24:44 Kuroky: "I promise you, God is with us" God: "My Guy, I have other plans"

[@ItsARCHIEftw]

Liquid was a top team then, but kurro rly didnt believe that he could beat OG and his mentality transferred to the team, not to mention ANNAGOD was an effin meta breaker with that IO carry... Liquid rly came in as favourites into this match, they had the most amazing tournament, but Ceb is a freaking mental monster, EPIC FINAL!!!

[@goodisgood153]

21:38 this is actually what i need to hear grubby. thank you

[@Frazful]

Now watch Ti7, two of the most gifted and brilliant players at their best, Miracle and Gh. Wizards!

[@1Tranan]

Hey Grubby! I remember watching you play in some SC2 tournaments years ago, and I feel privileged to watch you come and learn this game too! I started Dota 2 cause I watched Day[9] make the swap, and to see another RTS player come in and have fun has been fantastic. Keep it up, keep having fun!

[@snowdawn]

Watched both True Sight it was released and saw finals online on two TIs. Og is a legendary team. Played old dota and dota 2 I can say dota 2 improves the game.

[@therealjoal]

You are a very positive person and i like your take on Ceb's mindset in coaching.

[@goink3368]

As a huge fan of this Liquid team that documentary can be hard to watch lol. But I like how both teams respect each other, I prefer respect and friendliness to trash talk. By the way, Kuro and Notail, the captains of each team are actually good friends. Kuro coached/advised Notail on his previous TI, after the former got eliminated

[@destinyhero4795]

Both are respectable teams

[@amplesstratleholm7609]

I wish that Grubby watched TI7 True Sight before this so he'd have a better insight on how this Team Liquid works. Kuroky basically is like a father to the 4 guys of the team (who can be mischievous players), with their manager Mo like the mother lol. Kuro had to carry the team at a mental and emotional standpoint, so it's not surprising that he got tilted after game 1. I feel that Liquid misses Matu on situations like this. He's one less emotional guy for Kuro to check on. TI8 is Ana's redemption after being viewed as an underperformer before TI, while TI9 is where Topson really popped off. OG is a whole lot better in TI9 than they were at TI8.

[@jrbudoybudoy]

Yeah TI8 was Ana's redemption but it was the Kiev Major that brought him to the legend status. The Buyback was the moment he etched his name in the Dota 2 Hall of Fame.

[@pudge4645]

First, a legendary player named "Vigoss" appeared in the dota pub. Then "Loda", who admires him, won Dream Hack Winter 2006 , bringing dota to the competitive scene for the first time in the world. Loda has become a living legend. The era of Loda continues, and it will be active in the top scene for a long time. One day, rumor says that there is a player who beats up Loda every night at the pub. It was a boy and named "Kuroky" who was about 12-13 years old at the time. As soon as he jumped into the top scene, he keep beaten up loda again and again and again and... if loda was main charactor of dota. then Kurokky was super villan of this game he was demonically strong at the time I remember. and his era is not over yet.

[@Bush0r]

After Heart of the Swarm you are now stepping back into my life through Dota. How good it is too see the cheerfull Grubby again. :D

[@hauihnum88]

Love to see grubby in Dota and the amazing content . Feelsgod to have a amazing 'newb' making content like this

[@MadsFeierskov]

It's really interesting to see the mental game here. Liquid is behind from the very beginning, because they focus on the negatives, call out mistakes etc. On top of that it just seemed obvious that OG was two moves ahead at all times. When Liquid is celebrating kills, OG is just sitting back saying "oh, that's terrible for them."

[@wanman6379]

2:35 Kuro didn't actually meant money when he said "costly", these 2 teams at that time where fighting on who will be the first 2-time TI winner. Which means a lot

[@akmalfiruz8602]

this is really funny, i never expected this from grubby. i used to play a lot of HOTS, and that's where I got to know grubby. It was a nice period between 2015-2018 as fellow blizzard franchise fan, I played a lot of games, got to diamond tier and also watched a lot of pro matches. It was always a pleasure seeing grubby casting games. And then that happened. Blizzard abandoned HOTS. So I reluctantly went to the original, Dota (Well it's Dota 2 now). Somehow I always knew I was going back to dota. It was inevitable. I played it a bit during school days, along with WC3. I liked the game, but didn't like the crowd. I played the original dota to have fun and do silly things, but people just wanna tryhard and win. When HOTS came I thought it was perfect. But nothing good lasts forever. Gotta grow up, and play a real MOBA. Thank you HOTS and thank you grubby for being there. I made a lot of good friends on HOTS. Though the moba honeymoon is over, I still have fond memories of HOTS. I just wish Dota has something like Li Ming and greymane. They have diablo now, in Marci. But it took valve years to make sth similar. Still, dota is a masterpiece.

[@arceegrey2273]

Watching this reminds me of how godly OG during this TI, Topson trashing everybody on mid and Ana playing io carry. Trivia: he and his friends played this io on 3k mmr pub, and what's mind blowing is he actually pulled it off on TI main stage.

[@asmerX100]

ana really have full faith on the team and really believe that he and the team could pull it off...amazingly they instinctly knew how to enable his carry IO's gameplay

[@MatthewSmith-rv2jw]

Thanks for everything Grubby. I'm sad that HOTS fell from its former glory and play rarely and trying to decide if I want to switch to DOTA for watching/playing. I like seeing your journey. I'm a bit sad that your next recommended video title basically gives away the outcome of the 2019 match, but I guess I shouldn't complain about being spoiled on a 3 year old esports event.

[@PICCnick]

I'm so excited to see Grubby react to watching some of the TI games this October! Show Grubby the top .001% of players and the skill they play with!

[@phiLisfaction]

Really like your journey into dota :) I get the point with the communication and not giving your opponent too much praise, but OG was on another level this tournament... They dominated the whole TI so I can't blame Kuro for his comments- he was just realistic :) And they won before and got to the final with him... I think they got their style and go with it

[@hriatpuia9172]

Love these videos bro 👍🏻

[@j.w.213]

I love all the taunting and voice lines, because it's fun. I laugh at this even when I'm the one being taunted, healthy mindset wins more! E: You know what's cooking! You know what's cooking! You know what's cooking! BOOOM!

[@godsoffice5714]

30 is very old for pro dota 2 tournament, even if you are 60 you can hit immortal rank in DotA 2 without a doubt because I know some old people who do but on the top of the game, you just can't, game burns you very hard, every win and loss counts and losses count really harder.

[@Elasko]

Gonna be honest, the last few minutes, I got emotional. I remember being there, losing in finals and having this feeling of dread. And all I could think was "I failed you guys". When I watch Koro say the same thing I did 15+ years ago, it hits me like a ton of bricks. Kudos to them both, amazing teams.

[@bullymaguire6773]

TI9 is the OG show. Nothing but sheer dominance.

[@HgHgHgHgHgHgHgHg]

1:09:14 perfect timing

[@spbalance]

4:19 Track ID: Scooter - Fire

[@tylershapiro4776]

As someone who has broken a bone, definitely worth the experience. didn't even hurt that bad. Just got to chill and do nothing for like 2 months

[@BBiGiBB]

u know how get viewers tho, it interesting to watch someone who has little understanding about dota, its whole new experience for me, pls finish rest of the true sights keep going

[@meowtime1115]

Watching the stream and watching them bust out IO carry on groups a couple of times and the caster reaction. Is a memory I think I cannot forget

[@lennox2565]

After this tournament all five players left team Liquid to form their own team. They had been playing together on the same team for years (exception w33) as one of the most stable rosters. Kuroky saying "...costly game" and being so stressed throughout the match seems to indicate that there was some tension between the players and their upper management. When Mind Control was hot their team was unstoppable. Same with Jerax on OG. It felt like the entire finals was a showdown for the two of them.

[@Logoshow1]

It was a real-life lesson for Kuro as a captain. Listen to your team, all the mistakes were the result of his decision, when the team was constantly anticipating them. That's the result.

[@Zestieee]

1:58 I always thought that this was very sweet. 3 or 4 members of Liquid at the time were muslims and I think it's really nice that they were united by faith as well as friendship. I'm not religious myself but I have a very deep respect for people who can live their own faith in a healthy way, whatever it is they believe in. Especially if that can bring people together.

[@5fenris570]

Seeing my favourite, the OG Gamer Grubbster enjoying my all time favourite game. What a time to be alive

[@rafaelmarkos4489]

The age standards for Dota are very extreme, to say the least. Young in the scene is somewhere around 17-20, and people usually have the best part of their careers from around 19-23. And old is anything over 25. Fear is 34, and he's colloquially the old man of Dota. Ceb's 30, and people are worried about the reaction time difference between him and his zoomer teammates when he stands in for the current OG. Now, consider this - Sumail won Ti5 at about 15, going on 16. He's 23 now. He's legitimately a veteran of the scene, and he has quite a few years of playing ahead of him, if he stays with the game. Been enjoying your journey through Dota 2, hope you enjoy it!

[@imnotrobot4394]

And to think that ana's low rank friends challenged him to carry them on a rank game using IO just to troll is insane. It's just crazy where it started. Ana was just on a vacation all those times while his team is getting smashed in valve events, shows up in TI and play IO as a carry. Greatest carry of all time hands down. Greatest team of all time too

[@ThePersonNetwork]

21:50 I feel like it's more how there's just a balance to everything in life and just because it's fun doesn't necessarily mean it's all good ALL of the time.

[@donydony1231]

I didn't notice it the first time, but you can clearly see that Miracle is on some type of drug @1:01:12, that's definitely not normal movements. I'm pretty sure he's on Adderall or something similar. I feel like this topic isn't talked about nearly enough in the gaming scene.

[@Jadix]

"You were the best coach" "No, OG is the best". Respect

[@youness9302]

kuroky is a great player,when I first play dota in 2007,I watch his replays to learn.Then suddenly china dota became the boss to the rest,and I love this game for more than 10 years.TI 8,TI 10,we lose and I still love it. by the way TI9 was hold in shanghai china.

[@horse-4598]

When Kuro said “him first, and unity.” I thought of Dave chappelle Rick James skit. UNITYYYY