Can Olden Era Revive HOMM?

[@Edarnon_Brodie]

As a Russian, I say that the game will be a banger, no problems. I say this as a Russian beacause developers have already given some interviews in Russian, where they literally spoiled 70% of the game content. The game will contain the best from V and III parts. Also the game will be completely modable, and developers interviewed themselves many Russian professional HoMM III youtubers and streamers, asking them about balance, multiplayer, features, etc. So no worries about the game, it will be 100% playable, and 50% chance that it will be better than the 3d part, because of how many information developers gathered to make the game being the best as much as possible.

[@javajawa2157]

Wow, thank you so much for sharing this is really good to hear. I am much more excited now.

[@Edarnon_Brodie]

@@javajawa2157 Yes. I was really shocked when I knew how HoMM series are unpopular in the West, and only Polish and Russian people are Heroes players mostly. There wasn't even a Wikipedia article about Olden Era in English Wikipedia, until today I decided to create it. But the Russian Wikipedia created an article literally in the first 15 hours after announce. Says a lot, as I think. Even the Olden Era developers themselves are Russians living in Cyprys. But let's hope the new HoMM project will bring a lot more popularity in English community to such an incredible game as Heroes.

[@HeretikalGaming]

@@Edarnon_Brodie I have noticed a lot of the content I see while searching for Heroes stuff is in Russian, so what you’re saying makes sense. I happened to be introduced to Heroes 3 as a child and it is one of my all time favorite games. I don’t meet a lot of other Heroes fans here in the US but we exist! Lol Hope this new game is great!

[@Edarnon_Brodie]

@@HeretikalGaming Yes, the biggest difference between Salvs and Americans/Westerb Europeans are the heroes III popularity. Here literally every single person I know have ever played Heroes 3, and every third person is still playing them.

[@neijs_]

​​@@Edarnon_Brodieи почему-то я прям таки уверен, что продавать героев россиянам будет противоречить юбисофтовской этике 😮

[@n_core]

5:00 Nah, instead of Conflux, I think Cove, a new faction from HotA mod which based on M&M VIII lore, is a better contender for the mysterious faction since it's in line with the lore. Based on the description, Olden Era takes place in Jadame continent which includes Regna Island, the home of Cove faction. Might & Magic team at Ubisoft also recognized Cove so I think it has a chance of appearing as a faction or as a predecessor of Cove.

[@Kaelthas111090]

You said it all :) My fav was Heroes 5 after that I went to Kings Bounty and Age of Wonders. Squares or hexagons 2D or 3D I dont mind as much. I just wish it is one time purchase not Ftp so they wont milk living crab out of it.

[@TheYgds]

I'm open to the Kreegan's enslaving some poor race of insects to do their bidding. I'm glad its going back to Enroth and the old continuity (at least that seems to be the case), maybe we'll see a good implementation of the Heavenly Forge at some point that doesn't clash with the High Fantasy setting. The thing that disappoints me the most is that it took me 4 days to find out about this....UGH!.

[@PeshoCantDraw]

Revive HOMM? HOMM 3 has a multiplayer base larger than 90% of newer games that drop dead in the first month. Olden era looks promising, but HOMM is not dead to be revive.

[@Musicpins]

Yeaaa haha, not to mention ubisoft has a way of ruining the sucessors one by one... To be honest I actually liked HoMM 6, but the platform was terrible, however game had its qualities, the weapons you would level up was brilliant.

[@salahad-dinyusufibnayyub7754]

@@Musicpins I like 6 too, but Ubi dev strategy was so bad, it killed a potential game. I really like Sanctuary in 6, hope they can bring them back in DLC or whatever

[@henrymapleton]

All the interest in the spin offs, miniatures, card games, and hype for Heroes 3, wasn't surprised to see a new game with a focus on Heroes 3, this looks worth keeping an eye on. I hope Neutral units are in this.

[@javajawa2157]

They just did a dev interview I covered and they are.

[@henrymapleton]

@@javajawa2157 Now i'm excited!

[@coconuts5792]

The Q&A is very good its a serious HOMM game! But personnaly i wait more Fanstratics by the lead designer of HOMM3, he probably come for december (last newsletter).

[@NotMyname-q8s]

from the extra creatures they showed and from the silhouette its looking like a water Cthulhu based faction for the last one

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Support the HotA team and the utter AWESOMENESS of H3's legacy from JVC & NWC.

[@LeaksHater]

Haha, I also thought it was a mobile game as well. The artstyle does bother me a little, but we'll see maybe I'll get used to it. Honestly, I am quite excited, though only 6 factions seem a little low, as I've played so much HotA recently :D

[@PTS1337]

If you think about it, HoMM is perfect for a mobile game - it's turn based, features lots of dialogs and is controlled with simple point-and-click. I'd love to be able to play something like Heroes 3 on my phone, except there is the lucrative path for mobile games to be overflowing with predatory mtx.

[@LeaksHater]

@@PTS1337 That's fair, but I'm not talking about the gameplay, but the art. I would surely welcome the ability to play Homm on my phone, but if playing on PC, I really want the Homm-specific artstyle, and not so mobile game-like.

[@KingOfMadCows]

The Kreegans had some insectile elements in Might and Magic 6. They had hives like insects and they had a queen like a queen ant. Also, I don't know about Dark Elves being in Dungeon. Dark elves in Might and Magic are not like the ones in D&D or Warhammer. They don't live underground and they're not evil. Dark elves live on the continent of Jadame and they're mostly merchants who expand their influence through trade.

[@matebakk5187]

In 5 they were the "Dungeon" faction though. It doesn't look like that given we can see 4 units from them (at 45) and maybe 1 of them is an elf (though to me it's far more like an ogre or something similar)

[@KingOfMadCows]

@@matebakk5187 5 is set in a new world. This game is supposed to be set in the original universe, and it takes place on the same continent as Might and Magic 8.

[@matebakk5187]

@@KingOfMadCows I'm guessing that's why the video claimed Dungeon having dark elves. Centaurs were stronghold in 2&4 and Rmapart in 3...

[@akrumvatum1627]

It'd be cooler if they did the Dark Elves Rampart-like faction with Trolls and Minotaurs.

[@Chyrosran22]

I also don't like the mobile game type graphics, although I do like that it's 2D. That said, this project does look very promising, and the devs sound like people who are passionate and know what they're doing :) .

[@Baseqq]

Things I saw so far are : no more material sulphur , units are to friendly too sweet looking( I get it’s cartoon like but they don’t need yo look cute- example Medusa, dragons), also too much female units( it seems elves will be again mostly woman like creatures not fan of it. h7 and h1-3 did it better unit wise ). Lack of interface so far.

[@etoenjoyer7367]

Honestly the biggest enemy of the homm franchise are homm players themselves. They see the slightest bit of change and instantly start huffing and puffing. I already saw someone wishing the developers cancer because they changed inferno slightly. As much as I agree that the last 2 entries were poorly made I feel like the fans will never be satisfied unless Ubisoft releases a game thats an identical copy of homm 3 but with modern graphics.

[@matebakk5187]

Considering people in this comment section already have problem with Inferno insects or dark elves in Dungeon... Yeah. And if they don't change anything than they were lazy. It's extremely hard to please hardcore fans and the genre is very niche. I hope they implement something similar to the command points like King's Bounty (no more level 1 hero with 20 arch angel) and at least two lines of unit like HOMM 4. (Also Necropolis not being OP at release...)

[@Ksrwilhelm]

Yeah absolutely. If you don't want anything to change, just play HoMM3! If anything, Inferno shouldn't even be a thing if you go by the story of the old games. The Kreegans didn't come to Enroth until after the events of HoMM2 and before MM6. I would assume this has an explanation in OE of course.

[@etoenjoyer7367]

@@Ksrwilhelm I'm glad to see them changing stuff up this time. The classic demons from hell trope is overdone at this point, they looked insect-like in homm 6 and it was creepy as hell, really excited to see them in OE

[@paulstaker8861]

It's almost like asking "Can Ubisoft not be greedy?"

[@TheHullmet]

Pacing great in this one! Ubisoft making as effort as well with this entry

[@Ksrwilhelm]

The insectoids make more sense than having a whole buch of demons. From what I've understood this game is set in Enroth before the OG HoMMs, meaning the Kreegans haven't arrived on Enroth yet, at least not en masse.

[@soul71000]

Need Castle Town, Rampart, Conflux, Dungeon, and Tower.

[@slickperspective]

There is Castle town and they named it as "Temple". There is Dungeon as well. Rampart is Sylvan, and it's in the game. But Tower is maybe the 6th "mystery faction" in the game, suggesting it could be the "Icy insectoid" kind-of faction which have been kind-of leaked lately.

[@soul71000]

@@slickperspective Basically I want all the factions and units from Heroes 3 back.

[@slickperspective]

@@soul71000 Who doesn't 😅

[@dexgames4366]

My biggest problem with it is the focus on fast-paced combat, instead of strategic combat. H3 had 15x11 battle grid, here it's like 11x9, but with cut corners it feels almost like 9x7 or even 9x5. Tier 1 Skeletons can travel the whole map, it's just... Quick Melee Brawl stuff instead of movement, placement and strategy. 🤔

[@JeanLucPicard85]

Units don't have numbers on them making me wonder if unit stacking is gone and it's all single units like in Age of Wonders. Personally I'd welcome that change but I think 98% of the player base would lose their minds.

[@khamsinfu1759]

Kreegan have more hive colonies beside Zod?

[@rafaelitho]

if people can leave the Heroes 3 nostalgia aside, this will do good, if not, it will have the h6 and h7 fate(not so bad as people say, not game of the year, but not as bad as people say they are)

[@ffarkasm]

5:05 What? Conflux a beloved race? Most players hate Conflux. It was just a forced solution as the nineth faction of the Armageddon's Blade expansion due to the overwhelming negative feedback regarding the originally planned Forge faction which would have alienated the fans due to its unfitting theme to the game's atmosphere. When 3DO realized this, they had to urgently develope another new faction which became Conflux but not for the better of the game. Maybe better than the planned Forge, but still odd and boring atmosphere and it was overpowered compared to the rest of the factions, before it was eventually nerfed. I don't think anyone ever loved Conflux. It still feels like a hastly forced replacement of something else (Forge).

[@javajawa2157]

Thank you for the information and history on this. I came into the Heroes 3 several years ago which is of course late considering it's age. One of the many factions I kept getting recommended was Conflux and based around discussions on them I heard more positive things than anything negative. I am sure that due to the age of the game opinions may of changed or just the circles I have been apart of shared different opinions.

[@matteste]

And funny given just how much tech stuff there is in Might and Magic already.

[@n_core]

Conflux is beloved because of how broken it is. It was only nerfed by the Horn of the Abyss expansion mod. In the unmodded version of the game, the faction is still broken, but not as broken as Necropolis.

[@mr.h5566]

Thats the reason I play the vanilla version. I really hate conflux it does not fit in the game at all!

[@Apededos]

I was expecting to see more of the new game. We already know how HoMM3 looks like

[@javajawa2157]

Sorry, at the time of this video this trailer and some screenshots from steam which were mostly from the trailer were all we had. I'll try to get more gameplay once the devs have something to show.

[@Apededos]

@@javajawa2157 Sorry as well, I did search for other stuff but couldnt find any !

[@DoCKathos]

I can't imagine Heroes 3 will ever be dethroned for this style of game, it's 25 years old and still has a fairly large player base mostly thanks to the hota mod. Songs of Conquest was fine, the magic system was pretty broken, but after a while I just wanted to play H3 again. I don't have much faith in Ubisoft to not butcher the franchise every chance they get, H5 was fine but pretty much everything since has been a steaming pile of garbage. MMX could have been better but it still felt like a beta by the time they abandoned it.

[@toramaru2490]

Song of conquest did.... In some ways I guess. I love that game, so much love poured into it. I hope olden ways keep it simple like homm3 and oh my god rework magic heroes man, srsly magic beats might EVERYDAY.

[@pierdolomentos]

Song of Conquest is linear and I don’t like graphics. It tried to be a brother of HoMM, but in my opinion it’s like an ugly brother, that it is only allowed upstairs.

[@toramaru2490]

@@pierdolomentos please elaborate what do you mean by linear? As someone who sink many hour on both game, honestly SOC is way more variety than HoMM even with mod.

[@nopens]

What do you mean revive? 2,3,5 and even 4 to some extent are alive and well.

[@-Sparagmos-]

A bunch of insects are never gonna be a good replacements for the OG demons, no matter how cool they end up being.

[@javajawa2157]

I agree but I am still open to seeing how this goes.

[@Pugofkin]

But homm demons are kind of insectoids

[@Ksrwilhelm]

This game is set before the OG HoMMs form what I understand, so the Kreegans haven't come to Enroth yet.

[@danishdude2191]

It doesn't look that good in my opinion. It really just looks like one of the cheap mobile games. HOMM5 was my hater at start, but after playing and understand it, it actually ended up as my favorite and HOMM3 ended up as my second. And HOMM2 will always have a special place in my heart. HOMM4 sucked big time in most ways, but I actually think it had some good things too. HOMM6 was shit and HOMM7 could maybe have been one of the greatest games if I didn't have to login to that shitty Ubisoft launcher every time, that truly ruined the experience for me, but for those 3 days I played it, I think it was descent.

[@jeythecount6546]

Unrelated, but this gameplay was painful to watch haha

[@ashrenos]

Every time I see people talking about the HoMM license, they're talking about the 3rd. Personally it was already quite old (and ugly...) for me when I started playing so I probably missed out on something great. But personally I loved the 5th and the 6th for their campaign (as well as this dynasty system for the 6th which, I'm sure is one of the negative points of this opus). The 7th on the other hand was really not great but I can't say why. Concerning this new game, I don't like these graphics, as many have said it seems more suited to a mobile game. On the other hand, if they take inspiration from the 3rd which is for a lot of people the best game in the license as well as from the 5th which is the best for me, I think I won't be disappointed. Let's see

[@xK0VI]

No, it cannot, because its not the holiest of holiest HoMM3 and fanbase is already defecating on it (though they try to cover it with seemingly reasonable arguments).

[@Okidoki258]

its a pity they changed inferno :(

[@pertsonvelts1699]

Have to agree that the art style is a turn off, too mobile-ish. Even the Songs of Conquest with its pixelated graphics runs circles around this one. I doubt that the art style will be changeable via modding.

[@Dacamster101]

God seeing videos with old time fans reminds me why i hate the HOMM community. Games i've loved for so long getting constant negative press from their own community to the point the series gets canned for a decade. Now we finally get a chance for it to return and I cant find videos without people still talking about bad previous games. How can any potential new player be excited to try a new game when the existing community is nag, cry, complain, on loop. I worry this game will die with negative critiques before people even get hands on and then the series goes back on ice for years again.

[@Titantro]

I have played the 3 and 7 game alot. But I think this one is not gonna be that amazing

[@thebanished87]

HOMM3 already exists.... No point in trying to "revive" anything.

[@Lordno.]

The conflux is an awfull faction. I hope for an entire New faction !

[@matebakk5187]

It probably will be Stronghold or something similar. Those are the classic 6 factions (as far as I know each was present in a form in every Heroes game)

[@GamersOdyssey]

Holy shit how new are you to this game that you did not recognize a heroes of might and magic game watching the new art style? Did you start yesterday or something?

[@danielkirpichnikov2007]

My biggest concern is that they just copying hmm 3 with just graphics and nothing new. So it may be like a homm 3 but worse. And the early access will strengthen this direction, because there is a lot of bald "fans" that really like that to be almost hmm 3, but not homm 3 and it will fail, because it is not an evolution, it's a degradation. Homm 3 was good, but not perfect. Original creator knew it and they added a lot of other stuff in homm 4. Some of them was good, some of them not. Homm 5 also introduced a lot of new stuff, mechanics, some good and bad. But they started to look into homm 3 more. And the rest of the series is a disinterested copycat of previous game with very minor improvements. I fear this new game can be the same- almost homm 3 like, but without improvements. Sorry, but the homm 3 community is very toxic in the way of disliking any changes of the original and the loudest of them will direct game into this through the early access. And they still will not be satisfied by finished product. Early access isn't bad. It can be good. Baldur's Gate 3 is a great example of this. They hear the community, but they still make the game on their own vision. I wish new homm 8 developers have that strong vision of their game and a strong will to implement new things and improve.

[@Inkubaszi]

I will answer that question: No! As long as UbiShit holding that brand in graps, every new game from that brand will be half-baked, full of dlc's and woke crap.

[@frantavopicka5259]

Publisher is ubisoft so it's bound to be crap.

[@BrovarSpirytus]

the newest prince of persia is a good game

[@Andriej69]

LMAO, nope

[@Fakeusert]

This is not HOMM. Just another piece of generic Ubisoft crap.

[@shaitan7510]

the gameplay footage of HOMM 3 is sooooo baaaad, who prioritizes dwarfs instead of elves?????

[@javajawa2157]

Dwarf Supremacy.